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misscammiedawn · 2 months

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The Strange Case of Murder Alters

CW: Discussions of real life murder, sexual violence and heavy stigmatization of the mentally ill

It's not easy writing essays about positive representation for complex dissociative disorders in fiction.

Even the most compassionate cases of intentional representation have flawed elements to them. There is no perfect depiction of plurality in popular culture as even those who specialize in the understanding and treatment of dissociative disorders do not have a full understanding of what it is like to live with conditions like this and those who do are often disregarded.

That all goes without noting that it is a highly subjective experience. There are as many presentations of plurality as there are plural people.

In writing this essay series I want to avoid murder alters because I hate how they are used to harm the most vulnerable people in our society.

But at the very least I can do my best to try and understand why people have this horrible view of others such as we...

Because behind the misunderstanding of our condition there is another issue at play.

The zeitgeist.

Today I want to talk about the social impact of The Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde by Robert Louis Stevenson.

Released in 1886, the story is a mystery about a lawyer named Gabriel John Utterson who is investigating the suspected extortion of a his friend and client, Dr. Henry Jekyll by a thug named Edward Hyde.

It is so popular a piece of fiction that it has been adapted over 100 times.

See, the book is a mystery in which a lawyer uncovers the truth about the miracle elixir that allows Henry Jekyll to alter his appearance so that he may drop his social obligations and act without fear of consequence, knowing he can live his respectable life as Jekyll and any depravity within his soul can be exorcised within the guide of Edward Hyde with the Jekyll name unsullied.

The reveal that Jekyll and Hyde are the same person does not happen until the final pages, after Utterson discovers Hyde's body in Jekyll's lab, dressed in Henry's clothes and with a confession letter explaining the whole affair. It concludes that he can no longer control the physical transformations and that he will either be executed or have the courage to commit suicide. Either way the consequences fall onto someone other than himself.

Will Hyde die upon the scaffold? or will he find courage to release himself at the last moment? God knows; I am careless; this is my true hour of death, and what is to follow concerns another than myself. Here then, as I lay down the pen and proceed to seal up my confession, I bring the life of that unhappy Henry Jekyll to an end.

Henry had compartmentalized enough of his undesirable impulses and emotions that he stored them in an entirely other vessel, dissociating himself from the actions of Hyde enough that he ends his confession that they are the same with the notion that the consequences of their actions falls on someone other than himself.

Dissociative Identity Disorder has long been recognized as a condition though it was not fully understood, even by today's clouded understandings. The International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation (ISSTD) has medical journals dating as far back as 1831 on the topic.

Though the concept of "dual personalities" was a curiosity to the medical community it was often discussed in the same breath as hypnotism, spirit mediums and possession. It was still understood and studied at the time.

Stevenson was clearly obsessed with the concept of duality of the soul as Jekyll and Hyde was his third attempt at writing a story which centered on the war of Good and Evil within a single soul.

His previous attempt at the concept, Markheim, is a short story about a man who commits a murder of passion while shopping for a gift to get his fiancee.

The story heavily features the concept of mirrors with the titular Markheim terrified of his own reflection, noting that there is nothing within a mirror that he wishes to see. After killing the store owner he searches the house for money and is approached by a stranger who debates with him on the concepts of good and evil, acting as a spiritual mirror that Markheim must see himself within until he stops trying to deny and obfuscate his responsibility in the evils he has committed.

The story ends with him woefully confessing that he has lost the love of good but still hates evil and confesses for the murder, allowing himself to be arrested.

The stories less focus on dissociated personalities and more upon the way a person can self justify unspeakable acts to themselves by avoiding their own reflection.

I'd mentioned that Jekyll and Hyde had been adapted over 100 times?

Perhaps I misspoke. You must forgive me...

You know, I'd imagined this essay as a video. I simply have never dabbled with the form and am concerned I would take to the form with the grace and skill of James Somerton. It's far easier to stick with the devil that I know, namely typing an irresponsible number of words at my Tumblr audience.

Indulging the mental image a moment, however, the prior segment having us (Camden potentially?) bathed in golden light wearing a suit and a top hat, speaking in a refined and elegant version of our English accent before switching to me (Dawn) in red light disheveled and looking oh so slutty and talking with a little bit of our old cockney twang.

You'll forgive my distraction for this little aside, I am simply too vain not to paint that mental picture as I type.

See, there are hundreds of Jekyll and Hyde adaptations. The issue is they are adaptations of Thomas Russell Sullivan's Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde is a stage play that ran for 20 years with its run starting with Madison Square Theatre and Lyceum Theatre in New York and London respectively.

The stage play tells a neat chronological story focused on Dr. Jekyll rather than an investigation which flits between events as in the book. Moreover the play goes to lengths to sharpen the contrast between Jekyll and Hyde, a trend which would continue down the decades, allowing for Jekyll to be more socially active and Hyde's evil to be more random in its cruelty. The play also introduced women to the narrative and allowed for Hyde's depravity to include sexual violence. The original novella lacked any sexual motivation for Hyde and Stevenson outright denied that Hyde's "unspecified crimes" included sexual violence.

The other major change between the play and the book is that the lead actor, Richard Mansfield, insisted on playing the dual role. In fact the play was commissioned specifically to allow him this opportunity.

To quote a review in The Times (August 6th, 1888)

There is but little scope for acting in what has been described as Mr. Stevenson's "psychological study." As applied to the dramatic version of Mr. Stevenson's book, the accuracy of the word "psychological" is open to question. There is no transfusion of thought or character between "Dr. Jekyll" and "Mr. Hyde." In look, dress, and action they are wholly distinct individuals; and Mr. Mansfield's appearances, now in the one part and now in the other, involve no more psychology than the "business" of a "quick-change artiste" in the music-halls. There is much more psychology, for example, in Mr. Irving's impersonation of Mathias in The Bells, where the conscience-stricken burgomaster leads a double life - one in the society of his family and friends, the other in the solitude of his chamber. But except in the hands of a master, psychology is of small account on the stage, which deals much more effectively with the cardinal passions. It is with no regret that we note the absence of the psychological element from the dramatic version of "Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde."

In the book the transformation was a physical change that allowed for Henry to act without repression allowing for an exploration into the psyche of an individual caught between actions which one can look at themselves in the mirror performing and those which they simply cannot accept as part of themselves.

In the play the transformation still plays out but it is one man acting both parts and using the weight of performance to mark them as separate characters. A transformation between good and evil spurred on by the elixir. As it was the first major adaption, however, the transformation was not displayed in light until the third act, allowing the twist and its shock to be preserved.

But still an act before the finale.

With every adaption, it seems, the contrast between Henry and Edward's good and evil sharpened and more and more of the audience entered the fiction armed with the knowledge of the transformation.

The gap grew wider.

As the elements changed the story became less about the war of desires versus reputation within a single man and more about a paragon divide between good and evil. A divide which allowed Henry to become more philanthropic and Edward to become more depraved. The further from the original we drifted the more wholly divided the parts of Jekyll became.

The play itself was a success and as noted all subsequent adaptations of the material would go on to focus on the chronological telling of events with the good doctor and his evil alter ego as the central figures, often dismissing Gabriel Utterson from the narrative entirely.

But there is one other element at play.

(if this were the video essay I'd dreamed it as then this would be where I snuck in a clip from Murder, Murder from the Jekyll and Hyde musical)

In 1888 a series of murders caught the public's attention. Known colloquially as The Whitechapel Murders these crimes are more well known in association with the legend surrounding the suspect Jack The Ripper.

The 11 murders carried out between 1888 and 1891 are a crime and a tragedy that truly did occur in the streets of London. With all the cartoon representations of Spring Heeled Jack, the walking tours and the general romantic gothic ethos that has prevailed through history it is important to remember that.

Particularly as the lasting sensationalism from late 1800s London still carries lingering sentiments in the public psyche.

The first of the Whitechapel murders occurred on August 7th 1888. 3 days after the play opened in the Lyceum Theatre.

The press of the time were quick to jump upon the similarities. The Irish Times in September of 1888 were quick to make the moral accusations, decrying Hyde's depiction as murdering for the fun of the thing. The article, linked above, takes great glee in crafting a comparison when none had existed and in time the association caught on.

Enough that Richard Mansfield himself was suspected of being the murderer in question.

Days after the Irish Times story the following was published in The Star

“MEANWHILE,” writes an eccentric correspondent, “you, and every one of the papers, have missed the obvious solution of the Whitechapel myst-ery. The murderer is a Mr Hyde, who seeks in the repose and comparative respectability of Dr Jekyll security from the crimes he commits in his baser shape. Of course, the lively imaginations of your readers will at once supply certain means of identification for the Dr Jekyll whose Mr Hyde seems daily growing in ferocious intensity. If he should turn out to be a statesman engaged in the harmless pursuit of golf at North Berwick - well, you, sir, at least, will be able gratefully to remember that you have prepared your readers for the shock of the inevitable discovery.”

Another went as far as to claim that the victims being women was enough to link it to the character from Stevenson's book, a book which lacked female characters or victims.

The fact that a woman was the victim in each case, and that she was poor, takes away the suspicion of robbery and suggests some unutterably fiendish motive such as that which is supposed to animate the mystical character of Hyde in Mr Stevenson’s book. When the devilish nature of Hyde was pictured in the novel nobody could believe that his prototype could be found in real life. These atrocities and apparently cause-less murders show that there is abroad at the present time in the East End a human monster even more terrible than Hyde.

(source of these quotes and a far more detailed analysis of the Mansfield/Jack connection, please read The Strange Case of Dr Jekyll and Saucy Jacky by Alan Sharp)

The legend had shifted and the idea of Hyde had been solidified in the public consciousness and forever linked with the murders within Whitechapel.

In adaptation these days Edward Hyde is depicted as wearing a big long black coat, a top hat and a cane and coincidentally the vision of Jack the Ripper in the public perception has followed a similar path.

It was only in adaptations where Jekyll and Hyde shared an actor that they also shared a sense of style and the disguise had to take a certain gentleman dressed in shadow approach.

The original book makes a big point of Henry's attire being different from Hyde's as their size difference is enough that during the unexpected transformations they must fashion a way to look presentable. Lanyon describes Hyde's attire as "the trousers hanging on his legs and rolled up to keep them from the ground, the waist of the coat below his haunches, and the collar sprawling wide upon his shoulders."

Yet the public perception had found a tidy visualization of Hyde and the visualization of an unknown killer shared that same picture.

And so too was the concept of "dual personalities" linked with murderous intention.

Thus was born the murder alter.

In other Media, Myself and I entries I have worked hard to avoid murder alters. In our very first essay we opened with a passage noting that we wished for positive depictions of dissociative disorders in fiction. Breaking that rule today is a matter of understanding why so many pieces of fiction tend to lean so heavily on the idea of an evil alter ego who kills "for the joy of it".

Because as Jekyll and Hyde's adaptations became more influenced by the culture surrounding their own reception within the public canon, so too did the inspirations take leaps and bounds.

The concept of duality and split personalities was in the public consciousness and focused entirely on the concepts of Good and Evil.

But that only introduced the concept to the public psyche. Even with the links and public fascination with Hyde and Jack the Ripper it was still a matter which existed only in the public's collective imagination.

It was in 1957 when Ed Gein was convicted of a number of violent and horrific crimes that the conversation and assumption become twisted into the stigma that we all endure today. Gein was sentenced to life in a mental institution after being declared unfit for trial by reason of his schizophrenia diagnosis.

His crimes and life were scrutinized and sensationalized at the time and used heavily as inspiration for a number of thrillers including and most famously the novel Psycho by Robert Bloch and its movie adaptation by Alfred Hitchcock and the character of Buffalo Bill in both book and movie versions of The Silence of the Lambs.

The titular "Psycho" from the movie and novel, Norman Bates, is revealed to have an alter personality modeled after his mother who murders any women who get close to him and Buffalo Bill is a serial killer who wishes to become a woman by kidnapping young women and taking their skin.

Both characters would go on to contribute a lot of stigma to both the mentally ill and those who exist outside of the gender binary.

and... that's just sad. Obviously we know that not every person who experiments with clothing outside of their rigidly state assigned gender allocation will have murderous intention. That's absurd.

An often underlooked line in Silence of the Lambs regarding Bill's gender is Clarice noting "Dr. Lecter, there's no correlation in the literature between transsexualism and violence. Transsexuals are very passive."

Ignoring the over simplification and generalization, it speaks against a public perception of AMAB transgender individuals. The stigma claims that trans women are prone to violent and displays of sexual aggression but the reality does not correspond with this perception at all.

The same is true of those with mental illness, especially when associated with childhood trauma.

Though Psycho does not include a throwaway line that makes him out to be an outlier, the story does depict him forming the evil "Mother" personality through the abuse of his own possessive and controlling mother wanting to keep him away from any other women.

Even in the midst of the stigmatizing depiction they were able to show Norman being meek enough to "never hurt a fly" and having been pacified by the abuse he received at his mother's hands.

The fact is that those with dissociative disorders are known to be far more likely to be the victims of violent crime than the perpetrators.

People with these conditions often had to endure horrible mistreatment, neglect and abuse at the hands of those who were supposed to care for them and that society lets us down by holding these violent and dangerous stereotypes is simply inexcusable.

Even those who have alters capable and willing to use violence, they are formed through self-preservation and do not act "for the fun of the thing" as the Irish Times correspondent put it, much of their violence is turned inwards or used to ward off people and prevent them getting close.

Another highly publicized case that adds to the stigma pool is that of Billy Milligan, convicted in 1975 and formally diagnosed with dissociative identity disorder, his life and story have been directly adapted several times, including the infamously stigmatizing Split. Airing this year is a TV adaptation of Milligan's life starring Tom Holland.

It's clear the fascination and assumptions are still well and truly alive. Fact is the murder alter is likely not going to go away anytime soon. It is far too useful a narrative crutch for crime stories where a suspect does not even realize they are the guilty party and though there are only a small number of high profile cases, they have latched on to the public's imagination and been adapted multiple times with those adaptations inspiring further stories.

It's why we need good representation. It's why we want to highlight that good representation as much as we can.

Media, Myself and I is a series of Tumblr posts I make to highlight good representation of dissociative disorders in fiction. I do not claim to be the best at academia or research but I care deeply about the topic.

Originally I was going to use the Jekyll/Hyde stuff to build up to the only murder alter I respect but I think we can wait for another day to hear her laughing wav.

Please scroll the tag if you'd like to see more or click on any of the below essays:

Discworld and Plurality Incidental, intentional and accidental representation Gender, Dissociation and Clinical Stigma in The Third Person Recontextualized Memories in Umineko Derealization in Night in the Woods and Metal Gear Solid The Dangers of Hypnotic Personality Play in Penlight System Origins in The Incredible Hulk Relationships with Systems in The Incredible Hulk The Healing Journey in Mr. Robot

Thank you for reading.

#dawn posting #media myself and i #plurality #did #watch me post my trauma in public #jekyll and hyde

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see-arcane · 10 months

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And as she so sat she became aware of an aged beautiful gentleman with white hair, drawing near along the lane; and advancing to meet him, another and very small gentleman, to whom at first she paid less attention. When they had come within speech (which was just under the maid’s eyes) the older man bowed and accosted the other with a very pretty manner of politeness. It did not seem as if the subject of his address were of great importance; indeed, from his pointing, it sometimes appeared as if he were only inquiring his way; but the moon shone on his face as he spoke, and the girl was pleased to watch it, it seemed to breathe such an innocent and old-world kindness of disposition, yet with something high too, as of a well-founded self-content. Presently her eye wandered to the other, and she was surprised to recognise in him a certain Mr. Hyde, who had once visited her master and for whom she had conceived a dislike. He had in his hand a heavy cane, with which he was trifling; but he answered never a word, and seemed to listen with an ill-contained impatience. And then all of a sudden he broke out in a great flame of anger, stamping with his foot, brandishing the cane, and carrying on (as the maid described it) like a madman.

This bit is sticking with me in a way it didn't last year.

We'll see Jekyll's explanation for what he says is the cause of Hyde committing this murder. Maybe he believes it, maybe he's guessing, maybe he'll somehow believe there's a last fig leaf that needs hiding behind, even in the wretched condition he'll be in by the time of his confession. But looking at the details of poor old Carew laid out like this, I think I can spy a shortcut to a pretty good reason without just his word on it:

Edward Hyde saw in Sir Danvers Carew everything that Dr. Henry Jekyll could only pretend to be.

At least he leaps to that assumption. This is a story in which the impression of someone's character is always somehow visible at a glance--dreary but beloved Utterson, jovial Lanyon, respected but sly Jekyll, loathsome Hyde, odious housekeeper, et cetera--and we're to take the maid's opinion at face value. Carew was a stately old pinnacle of natural politeness and kindness. Aged, distinguished, self-content.

The point of Hyde's existence is to let Jekyll hide. To wear his own worst impulses as an outer disguise, free of inhibition or blame. Repression as physical manifestation, because he's so certain of his need to distill himself into two selves, the better to keep Jekyll 'pristine'--at least as presented to the world. Now here's Carew. Carew, who seems to radiate an intrinsic goodness. Carew, a happy old man. Carew, who is serene, who is at peace with himself.

No need of a 'Hyde' for him.

No shame.

Nothing to bury or let run wild.

Carew, for as much as we and Hyde get to know him, is only himself. Good. Kind. Needing nothing but directions, if you could point him along, sir.

Another strike. Sir Danvers Carew bowing and smiling to a loathsome little nobody like Hyde. This, when surely he has to have been disgusted like anybody else with sense..! Hypocrite! Liar! Fraud!

I think it's that very sterling regard that broke the dam in Hyde and let out the flood of verbal bile and violence. Insults and bludgeoning and a great childish fit--the kind of senseless viciousness of someone desperately flinging mud at the proof that they are Wrong, they are Lesser, they will Never Be Up to the Level of the Person Before Them.

Worse, Carew looks hurt even before the first blow lands. Not angry, not shocked. Just hurt. A final proof-positive (in Hyde's eyes) that he is as untainted and innocent as he looks.

So down comes the cane.

Striking the old man the way someone else might smash a mirror in frustration.

#sorry Carew #edward hyde #sir danvers carew #jekyll and hyde weekly #the strange case of dr. jekyll and mr. hyde

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dross-the-fish · 2 months

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Added a new chapter, Edward meeting Alice for the first time.

Excerpt:

Edward was in the middle of brushing his teeth, or rather, he was chewing the bristles of a frayed tooth brush and muttering distractedly to himself while pacing the dank, one-room apartment, which he rented for ten pounds a week from a large and brassy madame who’s side business Edward also patronized, on the rainy London evening when the woman in the blue dress burst out of the old stand mirror next to his battered wardrobe.

His first impulse was to kill the intruder but he found himself far too frozen in shocked fascination as what appeared to be a living deck of playing cards crawled out after her and began to swarm her, knocking her to the ground. With a tap of her heel against the glass the cards were sent back in a swirling vortex. She got to her feet unsteadily and took stock of herself and the thin, razor cuts on her arms, lower legs and even her face from where the cards had slashed her.

She was a small woman, shorter even than Edward by what he estimated to be roughly two inches but it was not the wonderous way she had arrived, nor the cuts, or the fact that her hair was a mess and one of her shoes was gone that held his attention. It was the way the color of her seemed to push away the dark, dull, shabbiness of the rat hole Edward had come to call home. The brightness of her dress, the yellow of her hair and when her eyes finally met his he was transfixed by the deep, bluebell hue. All things in that instant ceased to be grey and greasy, the moldy roof no longer drip-dripped into the rusted bucket, there were no rats in the walls and Edward Hyde did not realize he was standing in his underclothes with a chewed tooth brush dangling precariously from his gaping lips....

#Edward Hyde #Alice in Wonderland #crossover AU #Jekyll and Hyde

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drawings-and-sketches · 2 months

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(ID: Traditional pencil and paper drawing (fanart) of Dr. Henry Jekyll and Edward Hyde, from The Glass Scientists. There are four images. 1st, Henry is looking down at something not visible- only his head and shoulders are seen. In 3, it cuts off at his waist, and he has his hands out in front of him holding mushrooms. He's looking up, a stressed expression. He talks in both images. In 2nd, 4th, and 5th, Edward is in a mirror, leaning against the side- he has his hand up, looking at his nails while grinning (speaking) in 3, looking up ahead of him, panicked, in 4, and back down at his nails smiling (speaking) but still stressed in 5. Text: Henry: Edward? Edward: Yeah? Henry: Why are there poisonous mushrooms in my pockets? Edward: Don't worry about it. End ID)

This is a writing prompt from @write-it-motherfuckers, so please credit and link back if you use this!

The Glass Scientists

#the glass scientists #theglassscientists #tgs #tgs henry jekyll #tgs jekyll #tgs hyde #tgs edward hyde #tgs fanart #henry jekyll #edward hyde #fanart #traditional drawing #traditional sketch

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aemiron-main · 1 year

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PINNED POST

Hey there! I’m Em/Aemiron and I mostly post art and Stranger Things analysis! :DD (my art is over at @aemiron-art)

My Stranger Things twitter is @aemiron-main and my ST tiktok is also @aemiron-main!

This is the sort of stuff I tend to post about/am known for:

Edward Creel (aka Vecna)

Creelarke (cofounded by henrysglock and myself)

Karen Wheeler being Virginia Creel from an alternate timeline

Connie Frazier being Alice Creel from an alternate timeline

Eightfifteengate

NINA weirdness and the moving and disappearing corpses during NINA & the changing blood on 001 during the 1979 massacre

I have some featured posts below, and then under the readmore cut, each section will have a few links to its own featured posts, and will also have a link to another tumblr post that will take you to the full list of posts for each subject. I had to do this because each tumblr post limits me to 100 links, so they don’t all fit in one post!

You can also find all of the links organized in a searchable google doc here, just in case the links break on tumblr, which they often tend to do. There’s also a link to the specific google doc section for each topic under the cut.

Featured Posts

Who Is Edward Creel? If You’re Confused About Him, Read This (x)

Creelarke And The Tunnel Scene (x)

Original Eightfifteengate Post/Where Eightfifteengate Started (x)

I Know Why Will’s Birthday Is Important To Vecna/Henry/Edward- Original Post About Will’s Birthday Being The Same Day As The Creel Murders In Edward’s Timeline (x)

Yep, The Creel Murders Happened On Will’s Birthday In The Edward Timeline/According To The Indianapolis Gazette- Confirming The Dates (x)

Original Karen is Victor’s Daughter, Virginia, Not his Wife, Virginia/Karen is Edward’s Sister Post and Connie as Mother Alice (x)

Original Connie Frazier is Alice Creel Post (x)

Multiple Henries During NINA- His Drastic Appearance Change In Seconds (x)

Henry’s Shattered Mirror Scene Is A Direct Tommy Parallel (x)

Post Sections

Creel Murders

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Featured Creel Murders Posts

1.) Why Are We Seeing Through Henry’s Eyes During Victor’s Retelling? (x)

2.) Henry Was Wearing A Straitjacket At The Creel House When Victor Got Arrested (x)

3.) Why Did Henry’s Drawing From The Couch Magically Show Up On The Creel Dinner Table When Virginia Died, Including A Crayon? (x)

Edward Creel

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Featured Edward Posts

1.) Who The Fuck Is Edward Creel- Original Discovery of Edward Creel Post (x)

2.) Who Is Edward Creel? If You’re Confused About Him, Read This (x)

3.) Edward Creel is Vecna and Henry Creel is Innocent: The First Shadow, Edward Creel, Henry Jekyll and Edward Hyde, and Carl Jung’s Theory of the Shadow (x)

Creelarke

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Featured Creelarke Posts

1.) Creelarke And The Tunnel Scene (x)

2.) Creelarke and the Lost Boys of Montauk (x)

3.) The Gayest Saturday Morning Cartoon Episode Ever: Scott’s Hank the Ranger Figure, Creelarke, and Tiamat (x)

The First Shadow

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Featured TFS Posts

1.) Edward Creel is Vecna And Henry Creel is Innocent: The First Shadow, Edward Creel, Henry Jekyll and Edward Hyde, and Carl Jung’s Theory of the Shadow (x)

2.) My Sweet Boy vs I’m Not Your Boy: What Is Up With The Brenner-Virginia Parallels in TFS? And What’s Up With The TFS Brenner-vs In-Show Victor Resemblance? (ft The Girl (Boy) He Stole) (x)

3.) Silly, Terrible Play: Henry Ripping Off Virginia’s Dress and TFS Henry Breaking The The Fourth Wall (x)

Patty Newby

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Featured Patty Posts

1.) That Wasn’t Me, That Was Patricia: Split, ST, TFS, and Miss Patricia vs Patricia Newby (x)

2.) I'm The Only Friend You'll Ever Have: Did Patty Get Agent Smith’d During TFS? Why Is Brenner Everybody? (x)

3.) Not A Child, But Instead, A Small Woman: Patty Vs Suzie, Orphan (2009), Daughters Becoming Wives, Growing Up Too Fast vs Not Growing Up At All, and NINA Being A Small Woman (x)

The Creel Newspapers

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Featured Creel Newspaper Posts

1.) I Know Why Will’s Birthday Is Important To Vecna/Henry/Edward- Original Post About Will’s Birthday Being The Same Day As The Creel Murders In Edward’s Timeline (x)

2.)Yep, The Creel Murders Happened On Will’s Birthday In The Edward Timeline/According To The Indianapolis Gazette- Confirming The Dates (x)

3.) I Knew It, The Lab Was Involved In The Creel Murders- Initial Post About Victor Being Found On The Side Of The Road In The Indianapolis Gazette (x)

Timeline Weirdness

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Featured Timeline Weirdness Posts

1.) Big Initial Post About Comparing The Creel Timeline Sources (x)

2.) Your Timeline Is Wrong- Missing Boys and 3 Missing Hunters (x)

3.) The Creels’ Disappearing Door and Magic, Colour-Changing Wallpaper (x)

Creels and Wheelers Being Related/The Creelers

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Featured Creeler Posts

1.) Original Karen is Victor’s Daughter, Virginia, Not his Wife, Virginia/Karen is Edward’s Sister Post (x)

2.) Original Connie Frazier is Alice Creel Post (x)

3.) Your Granddad’s Time In The War- Victor as Nancy’s Granddad (x)

NINA Project

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Featured NINA Project Posts

1.) THE MAIN ANALYSIS OF HENRY'S JUMPSUIT BLOODSTAINS DURING THE MASSACRE: What The Hell Is Up With The Bloodstains On Henry/Edward During The 1979 Massacre? Why Do They Keep Moving And Changing And Vanishing? There’s Multiple Henries/Edwards (x)

2.) Initial Post About That One Dead Kid Turning Into A Grown Man (x)

3.) What If NINA Isn’t Just A Simulation? What If It’s A Time Machine? (x)

Hawkins Lab

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Featured Hawkins Lab Posts

1.) Initial Post About The BTS Picture Of Young Henry’s Sensory Tank Suit Costume (x)

2.) That Green Lab Colour Grading- Why Isn’t It Present During NINA? (x)

3.) Henry and The Demodog, A Possible S5 Scene and The Horrors of Regen Healing (x)

Mothergate

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Featured Mothergate Posts

1.) Henward, Vaginal Imagery, Brenner's Surgeries and Tearing (x)

2.) Spines Twisted and Eyes Popped Out: “Mother” Edward, Jim Hopper, and Lab-Russian Prison Parallels (x)

3.) Henward, Mothergate, Castration, and Billy (x)

Sam Owens

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Featured Sam Owens Posts

1.) Victor and Owens, Lying to Oneself, Possible Origins of the Edward Timeline (Did It Start Out As A Simulation? Is Owens The Father Edward Talks About?) (x)

2.) I Get It, I Do: Scott and Owens Parallels and Owens' Weird Understanding (Why Does Owens Understand What It’s Like To Lose A Son To The UD?) (x)

3.) ARE THERE ANY OTHER CREELS I SHOULD KNOW ABOUT??? (Is Sam Owens Victor Creel in the Edward Timeline? Why Does He Call Possessed Will “Son”?) (x)

Dr. Brenner

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Featured Dr. Brenner Posts

1.) Initial Post About Martin Brenner vs Richard Brenner (x)

2.) You Don’t Wanna Hurt Me: An Analysis of the “Nancy in the Tattoo Chair” Scene (x)

3.) What The Fuck Is Up With Brenner’s Hair? (x)

General Creel Family

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Featured Creel Family Posts

1.) Chrissy’s Dad Having His Eyes Sewn Shut vs Laura Cunningham’s Sewing Machine vs Laura- Virginia Parallels (x)

2.) Victor Rocks The Same Way In Pennhurst As He Did When Holding Henry On The Night Of The Murders (x)

3.) Victor’s Reflection Looks Like Michael Myers’ Mask And It’s Not A Coincidence- And It Ties To Timeline Theory Stuff (x)

Eightfifteengate

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Featured Eightfifteengate Posts

1.) Original Eightfifteengate Post/Where Eightfifteengate Started (x)

2.) More Halloween Camera Timestamp Weirdness (x)

3.) The OST Track “8:15” Plays When The Cali Gang Gets Out Of The Van (x)

The Vanishing of Will Byers

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Featured Vanishing of Will Byers Posts

1.) What The Hell Is That White Light In The Byers’ Dining Room Window During Will’s Vanishing? (x)

2.) That’s Not The Same Kid At The Same Time: Initial Warm Will vs Cool Will Post (x)

3.) What The Hell Is Going On The Night Will Vanished? Newspaper Weirdness, Terry and Joyce Being Conflated, and Timeline Weirdness (x)

Gay Mike Wheeler

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Featured Gay Mike Posts

1.) The OG ‘if Will Is Gay Men Who Die By Hate Crimes, Mike Is Gay Men Who Die By Suicide’ And Hypervisible Vs Invisible Gay Men And Ted Wheeler’s Ignorance Post (x)

2.) If Mike Ever Actually Loved El/Even Just Had A Crush On Her, Why Didn’t He Use The Moment He Actually Fell In Love With Her As Part Of His Monologue Instead Of Claiming It Was Love At First Sight? (x)

3.) The 60 Minutes Namedrog And Its AIDs Themed Episode (x)

Music in Stranger Things

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Featured ST Music Posts

1.) ST and Music That Seems Nonconformist But Is Actually Conformist (x)

2.) “Play With Me” vs “Rock Me Amadeus” (x)

3.) We’ll Meet Again, Dr. Strangelove, Yanks, and The Singing Detective (x)

Mike’s Mental Health Posts

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Featured Mike’s Mental Health Posts

1.) Mike Didn’t Even Try To Hit The Water At The Quarry: Mike And Joyce Parallels and Looking Through “Mike Lens” (x)

2.) Everyone Vandalizes The Bathroom Stall: Mike Is Taught That HE Is The Problem (x)

3.) Mike Having Food Issues Isn’t A Stretch (x)

ST Movie Parallels

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Featured ST Movie Parallel Posts

1.) Henry’s Shattered Mirror Scene Is A Direct Tommy Parallel (x)

2.) I’d Say You're Asking Me to Follow You Into Mordor: Eddie Munson, Mordor, Edward Creel, and March 22nd (x)

3.) Initial Post About The Wheelchair In The Creel Attic Vs The Wheelchair In The Attic In The Changeling (x)

ST Costuming

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Featured ST Costuming Posts

1.) Will’s Unbuttoned Flannel (x)

2.) Initial Post About The BTS Picture Of Young Henry’s Sensory Tank Suit Costume (x)

3.) Even If You Don’t See A Detail, It’s There: When Will We Finally Beat The Production Error Allegations? Not Everything Is A Production Error, The Details Matter. (x)

ST Production/BTS

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Featured ST BTS Posts

1.) Frame By Frame: Quit Calling Everything A Production Error (x)

2.) Henry Has Been Planned Since Season One (x)

3.) The Moving And Changing Kids Are Not A Production Error And They're Not Adult Stand-Ins Either (There's Zero Need For Standins Because They Have Hyper-Realistic Digital Doubles Of Every Dead Kid) (x)

ST and Changelings/ST and Irish Myth and History

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Featured ST and Changelings/ST and Irish Myth and History

1.) The Reason For The Wheelchair In The Creel Attic (Brief Initial Post About ST vs The Changeling) (x)

2.) That’s The Same Damn Tub AGAIN! (Initial Post About ST vs Before I Wake and The Tubs in ST- Did Henry or Edward Get Drowned and Dumped in the Quarry?) (x)

3.) Initial Brief Post About Vecna’s Claws and Changeling Imagery (x)

Multiple Upside Downs

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Featured Multiple UDs Posts

1.) Blue vs White Lights and Multiple Versions of the UD/Multiple Upside Downs (x)

2.) Another Post About Two Different Versions of the UD Castle Byers (And Two Different Wills) (x)

3.) Why Are The Snow Ball Lights There In The UD? If The UD Is Frozen On The Day Will Vanished, They Shouldn’t Be There At All (x)

ST vs DND

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Featured ST vs DND Posts

1.) The Two Heads of HNL: Richard and Martin As The Demogorgon (x)

2.) Not Gage and Not Mom: The Virginiagorgon (Or The Virginiaganger? Both?) and Virginia Being Replaced By A Shapeshifting Doppelganger (x)

3.)True Sight, Doppelgangers, Shapeshifter and Will’s Powers (And Why is Brenner Basically Every DND Monster in ST?) (x)

ST vs TV Shows

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Featured ST vs TV Posts

1.) Edward Creel, Peter Bishop, and Fringe: They Don’t Remember Him- How Could They? He Never Existed. (x)

2.) Owens, Cancer, Peter, Regenerative Healing and The Cure (x)

3.) Pretty Woman, Pretty, Henward, The Pennhurst Guards, and Always Sunny in Philadelphia (x)

ST vs Video Games

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Featured ST vs Video Game Posts

1.) Henry’s In A Tank: Stranger Things vs The Evil Within (2017) (x)

#stranger things #byler #henry creel #pinned post #pinned post section #pinned post section: main post #timeline theory #st creel timeline weirdness

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HELLO LADIES, GENTLEMEN, AND EVERYONE IN BETWEEN!

I am Mr. Edward Hyde! The rot in your souls, the darkness crawling within your minds, the spirit of London at night!

I was told by my associates that I had some letters from all my adoring fans addressed to me, that the people of London would love for me to answer some questions! Now I normally wouldn’t give any of you the time of day, but since you all love me so much I’d be happy to oblige!

So ask! Ask away!

-Mr. Edward Hyde

(The pinned tags! I suggest reading them in chronological order from top to bottom-

Plot Thread: Poison the Squible — Hyde gets a hit to poison a person named ‘Squibleton’.

Plot Thread: Tickle the Hyde — Hyde gets ambushed with a tickle attack, then gets his revenge when Jekyll is ambushed as well.

Plot Thread: A Talk with Lanyon (and Ito) — Lanyon has found a way to contact Hyde, and it goes as well as expected. Ito knows the secret and is here to console, but what happens when Lanyon is persistent? (This tag starts after Tickle the Hyde, stops for a bit, then picks back up after Can They Purr.)

Plot Thread: A Talk with Ito 2 - Electric Boogaloo — A conversation that branches off from the last tag, and somehow morphs into Pot vs Kettle.

Plot Thread: Can They Purr? — When Hyde is asked if he can purr, the tables turn on Jekyll when he’s asked the same.

Plot Thread: The Chase — It seems Countess Camilla has found Hyde…

Plot Thread: Face the Music — Hyde gets asked about his musical preferences.

Plot Thread: To the Countryside — Lanyon takes Jekyll (and by extension Hyde) out to the country. What could they be up to?

The Paul Chronicles — Paul has found Jekyll and Hyde. Nobody is happy with this.

Plot Thread: Leggington Comes to Town — A Leggy Leggington keeps sending Hyde little trinkets! What gift could he receive next?

Plot Thread: The Glass Shards of a Broken Mirror— Hyde mentions someone named Zenith in one of his letters, and this leads to a discussion about the other residents living in Jekyll’s mind.

Lore — The only tag that jumps around the timeline. Just my general headcanons about how Jekyll and Hyde function, and the early days after that first night.)

#the glass scientists #Tgs #(let’s hope I don’t explode from this 😅)#plot thread: poison the squible #plot thread: tickle the hyde #plot thread: a talk with lanyon (and ito)#plot thread: a talk with Ito 2 - electric boogaloo #plot thread: can they purr?#plot thread: the chase #plot thread: face the music #plot thread: to the countryside #The Paul Chronicles #plot thread: leggington comes to town #plot thread: the glass shards of a broken mirror #lore

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My thoughts on the Anthony Warlow Jekyll and Hyde Musical songs. (my thought are in scrambles, and I'm 2 drinks in and FEELING IT!) 1. Prologue (I can imagine him saying the lyrics in eerie darkness, all ominous.) 2. I Need to Know (Jekyll is a fucking Disney princess and this is his moment!!!) 3. Facade (I would be scared if the houses were all flashy and swank.) 4. Bitch, Bitch, Bitch (SHUT YALL'S TRAPS!!) 5. The Engagement Party (I'm going to maul Simon Stride.) 6. Possessed (Lisa my beloved. Nothing can make me hate you) 7. Take Me as I Am (RAAAAAAAH LISAA!! 💖) 8. Lisa Carew (Nothing will make me like you Simon Stride) 9. Board of Governors (Ladies and Gentlemen, one at a time, I cant not understand all that shit) 10. Bring on the Men (how about this.... Bring on the Frogs! They are so funny, I swear.) 11. Lucy Meets Jekyll (Lucy serves and eats here.) 12. How Can I Continue On? (Utterson is so dear to me, I'm going to tear up wallpaper) 13. This Is the Moment (Can this not be the moment… Please) 14. Transformation (Now this is the moment at 3:17. Yea fellas, It's okay to be freaky, no judgment here.) 15. Lucy Meets Hyde (Indeed you are the man, Mr. Edward Hyde) 16. Alive (I SAID IT ONCE, I SHALL SAY IT AGAIN! HEADPHONES ARE NOT ENOUGH, I NEED THIS SONG UP MY ASS!!!) 17. Streak of Madness (The madness.. Its fucking streaking) 18. His Work and Nothing More (I don't like when the boyfriends are sad :(( ) 19. Sympathy, Tenderness (I love this song, and it makes me violently sad) 20. Someone Like You (Full of magic, whimsy, and pining) 21. Mass (Magic) 22. Murder, Murder! ("I brought you frankincense." - "and I brought you Mur.. Murder") 23. Letting Go (I love their bond) 24. Reflections ("As Hyde, I care only for myself- And nothing for Jekyll!" this is simply not true, buddy) 25. In His Eyes (Seep down this song makes me feel joyus and sad at the same time and my brain cant choose what it wants to do) 26. The World Has Gone Insane (MY FAVORITE SONG!!) 27. Girls of the Night (Another song that makes me :( i wish nothing but the best for them) 28. No One Knows Who I Am (I know who you are. :(( I want to give her a hug.) 29. It's a Dangerous Game (this duet goes HARD) 30. Once upon a Dream (Lisa) (Sigh...... Jekyll when I get you.) 31. No One Must Ever Know (I'm going to hold your hand while I tell you this.) 32. A New Life (This song made my mother frown and look at me all sad like. Then I told her.) 33. Once Upon a Dream (I think you were afraid to bud) 34. Confrontation ("I'm what you face when you face in the mirror." Mood) 35. The Wedding Reception (I feel a little cartoon cloud forming over my head.)

I don't know why I did this, but AYYYYY must there be a reason!! WELP TIME TO DO SHENANIGANS!!! (sleep)

#monty rambles #jekyll and hyde #dr jekyll and mr hyde #jekyll and hyde musical #henry jekyll #edward hyde

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henrysglock · 11 months

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Warning: This blog is not a safe space for those who are anti-Palestine. That includes zionists. Also, I will be posting/reblogging ST5 leaks!

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James' Master List

My Bullshit Theories:

The Big Analysis on The First Shadow (Nearly 50,000 words dissecting All That so you don't have to!)

Local Man Uses The Time Loop To Try And Change His Fate (An outline of the 27-year time loop that exists in Stranger Things Canon, plus an initial dive into the Upside Down's double agent)

D.A.D and The Squawk (The CONFIRMED direct connection between the radio-based Mindflayer Tracking device in TFS and the leaked radio station van)

Mirror, Mirror (The mirror in the Rainbow Room isn’t a mirror at all. It’s a window)

A Second El Has Hit The (Block) Towers (Instances of back-to-back duplicate El scenes in NINA)

This Silver Cat Has Nine Lives (There are nine distinct Brenners in the 4.01 massacre sequence alone)

Shattered Mirrors and Cracked Walls (An analysis of One’s dematerialization scene, the aftermath, and a determination that we’re being shown at least 4 timelines in the 4.07 massacre)

One Does Not Simply Lose A Gate (The 2nd part of the 4.07 massacre aftermath and proof that a timeline exists where Henry/Edward did nothing wrong)

Bloody Eyes, Changing Cracks, and Reversing Mirrors (The 3rd installment in the Cracks and Mirrors series: A pattern in El’s blood not only indicates 2 timelines, but also a non-Vecna One)

Well, Well...Look Whose Limbs Are Still Intact. (Part 4 of the Cracks and Mirrors series: El's eye blood pattern links to specific jumpsuits, it can be used as an indicator of attack style, and it revealed a second teen El in the 4.07 massacre.)

Where Is All The Blood Coming From? (A comparison between the 4.07 massacre's blood and the carnage resulting from democreature attacks)

Local Man Refuses to Pick A Damn Jumpsuit (Matching up the Dimension-X jumpsuits to 4.07 massacre jumpsuits)

Turn Around...Look At What You See...(At least one version of Brenner saw One killing Two in 1979 rather than El with the gate, and I've got receipts for it)

The Store Room Scene In NINA Is Actually A Bunch Of Different Versions of Events Frankenstein'd Together (Contains Concrete Proof)

The First Shadow: Impossible Timeline (The Timeline of the Newspapers Shown In The First Shadow Cannot Exist)

Why Do You, As The Big Bad, Have No Lines Or Powers? (Vecna’s physical form in the UD has no dialogue and doesn’t use psionic powers: evidence and theories)

Psycho Killer, Qu'est-ce Que C'est? (Neither Henry Nor Vecna Are Psychopaths: An In-Depth Behavioral Analysis)

Our Lord and Savior…Vecna? (Why Vecna/One is God, Based On Analysis Of ST4, The Bible, And Other Supporting Media)

The Very Special Easter of 1959 (The Order of Creel-Related Events As Compared To The Catholic Calendar. Read: More Proof That One Is God)

Fics:

Paper Faces — POTO x ST fusion fic (Complete)

ptolemaea (blessed be the children) — Henry’s fix-it fic (4/?)

Trick of the Light — Henry-Brenner-El centric 4.07 rewrite (2/3)

Papa Warbucks — Henry/Brenner Sugar Daddy AU (1/?)

Edits:

ABBEY (ft. Henry Creel)

NYMPHOLOGY (ft. HNL)

The Colors of ST4 (ft. Le Monde)

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