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m1ssunderstanding · 2 months
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Understanding Lennon McCartney Rewatch Part 2.4
It's in the paper that Allen Klein was involved in 40+ lawsuits and John doesn't question it? At this point, I feel like he just didn't want to let Paul be right about anything. 
My question is who did that work on before? I mean who fucking does business like that? Let alone business with the most successful man in the world. 
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John's complaining about Paul being too good at his job is both hilarious (what the hell is Paul supposed to do with that) and sad (it shows just how far their musical relationship has degraded from partners to rivals)
How did they lose Northern Songs? Genuinely, if anyone can break it down for me I'd be so grateful. Anyway I'm sure it was devastating for both of them. “Who'd have the children?” “Dick James”. 
I know I'm insane, but can I be allowed to see a glimmer of goodness here? I really do think it's John's kinder side winning out when he decides not to lie. Like, yes, he gets a buzz off of watching Paul go white at his words, but I think he also just – in that moment – didn't have the heart to trick Paul into staying. 
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But also. Why are we trying to maneuver Paul at all if the end game is for John to leave? It just doesn't make sense to try to trick Paul into signing the contract unless John's divorce threat is at the very least not meant to be final. 
I will never understand this picture. Even in the emotional state he's in, he's still hamming it up? There is something seriously wrong with this man. 
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I do find it interesting that the fact that Paul cried his eyes out after that meeting isn't even mentioned in the doc. I wonder why. 
Let's put the bizarre, super-warped timeline in this quote aside for a minute. Apparently the depression started after Brian died and it lasted for about two years and John was still in it during Pepper. Okay. That aside . . .
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I have to assume this negative lense on what I can only assume means the period between 66 and 68 is highly influenced by hindsight bias. I agree that John was depressed at the time, in an unhappy marriage, doing too much LSD, etc and that looking at Paul's prolific talent and expansive , fast-paced life would have been maddening. But everyone go back to the end of part one really quick. He looks extremely happy. He sounds extremely happy. Everyone who knows him says he's never been happier. I think he just can't accept right now that there was so much good and he's lost it. 
“I look from the wings at the play you are staging . . . I don't know why nobody told you how to unfold your love.”
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Insanity quote Hall of Fame. Paul explaining why the Beatles just had to break up, obviously, because he and John "didn't marry the same girl." Someone write the fic where John and Paul both marry the same girl. Could be Yoko or Linda. Sister trad wives au. 
Okay, cool, so this means I have full permission to interpret and tin hat about any lyrics I want then, right?
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But also. Are we just not going to talk about the fact that Paul dumped a bucket of garbage water and punched this person? And are we not mentioning the depression and alcoholism and heroin abuse during this time?
It's so embarrassing how he looks to her for confirmation here. John, they asked you what you think. Just you. Not some complicated definition. Not Yoko's definition. Just your own thoughts.
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“I couldn't wait for them to make up their mind about peace or whatever. About committing themselves.” Yeah, John. You sound real committed to peace. Or whatever. Here's a theory that anyone can shoot down if they want: John asked Paul for some kind of commitment (a friendship wedding, a partnership contract, a mutual wanking pledge) in India and Paul was a chicken about it. 
What was that day like, I wonder? I imagine extremely stiff and professional and horrid. But who knows. Maybe it was nice, and maybe that made everything worse.
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I will go to my death believing that instant karma was for Paul. 
Do we think John actually did send Paul “about twenty postcards from Denmark” all covered in hearts none of which Paul responded to? Paul could be just as cruel in his lack of reaction as John was in his over reaction.
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I'm sorry but that is not what a man says when he's just lying to the press to buy time for business. That's what a man says to the press when he's trying desperately to communicate with someone who he can't get through to any other way. 
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But really, I just don't understand why the creator chose to minimize Paul's emotional response to John's divorce statement. If we don't see him bawling his eyes out and losing the will to live, he comes off like a self-assured, uncaring, jerk. Which. To be fair. John didn't see those things, and that is exactly what John thought of Paul during this time. But still. The audience now comes away from this doc with a skewed view. 
All we get is Paul being pissed off about Phil Spector butchering Let it Be without his consent and John and George trying to change McCartney's release date without his consent. Which are both a) understandable and b) strong, male, angry reactions. Making this section portray Paul in the same one-dimensional hyper-masculine way that John so often is. Which isn't my favorite. But hey, it's my only complaint about this doc so far.
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Anyway, update: I won't be able to do part three until it gets reuploaded, so we're on hiatus for this project for the time being.
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prince-liest · 3 months
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Hi! About your staticradio series (which is PHENOMENAL omg😍) - I know you said Vox is kinda falling in love while Al will remain aro. Which is awesome, we love to see rep! But I'm wondering if they will end up as QPPs (who fuck, lol)? Or it'll strictly be FWBs? Gah it's diffifult to describe it bc labels are so subjective and often too limiting, but I guess what I'm asking is whether they'll have an emotional relationship too, however it might look with their orientations? Will Al in particular have any soft feels for Vox & be fond of their unique bond? Even if Vox is in love with him when Al himself isn't? (I worry that would scare Al away😭) An intimate emotional closeness regardless of the specifics?
Thank you so much!! I've been enjoying writing it enormously so it always brings me a lot of joy that other folks are, too. >:D Just a heads up, this post has turned a little long because it got me talking about Alastor and the way he handles his feelings vs his ego in general.
First: I think the answer to this depends fully on how you personally define a queerplatonic partnership! I don't think Alastor would ever go for, like, a committed relationship with Vox in any form, but I also don't think that this would necessarily be a sad state of affairs for Vox, who I obviously write as poly as fuck with his toxic yaoi husband. Maybe it's because I'm aro af, but I feel like from Vox's end, "Yeah, I get to fuck around with the guy I'm obsessed with and he's not, like, nice, but I think I Stockholmed him into giving a shit about me!" is not actually a state of affairs he'd dislike! Especially since it's got that shiny "I'm special!" vibe in the sense that Nobody Else Gets To Get This Far With Alastor.
As for Alastor's side of things...
I think that so much of their dynamic dynamic isn't just set by Alastor being aroace, it's also set by him being a fucking sadist and a narcissist, HAHA. Like, he is very much in the middle of developing feelings about Vox, which (if my favorite interpretation of his little breakdown in the finale is correct) is also where his character arc is heading with regards to the hotel crew in canon, too, but his friendship-and-trust arc is slowburn as all hell and not entirely linear.
Part of the fun in writing Alastor is the process of qualifying all of his feelings with his sense of superiority in a way that is protective of his ego. He is freely and openly fond of people when that fondness doesn't expose any kind of emotional vulnerability in him. For example: He feels a condescending but genuine fondness for Niffty and Mimzy, whom he protects, and that's safe! He's quirky friends with Rosy, who is a benevolent semi-equal who uplifts his ego, and that's safe! He... may or may not have started caring enough about the hotel crew to have put himself at risk for them, and that is not only dangerous to his physical well-being but also massively humiliating, which is arguably worse to someone like Alastor.
He has SO many ego-prioritizing defense mechanisms and it's fun for me to pay attention to because I, too, am someone whose cardinal sin is probably pride. Anything is permissible only as long as it can be framed in a way that doesn't insult his ego.
Anyway, the point is: I don't think "soft feels and fondness for their unique bond" is on the list of ways that Alastor is able to find himself feeling about someone like Vox. The whole reason their whole situation in 666: Live on Air! started is thanks to Alastor's awareness and amusement at how obsessed Vox is with him. He sees himself as above Vox, and knowing that Vox is more emotionally invested than he is is part of the appeal. It's just gone from (derogatory) to (fond). (Which is, guess what? Safe!)
(It also means realizing that Vox is falling madly in love or whatever just nets a reaction somewhere in the region of, "Wait, is that significantly different from what you were already doing?", lol, because the only thing that's changed is the flavor of feeling, not the level of exposed emotional underbelly that he thinks Vox is showing him.)
TL;DR: He likes Vox like a cat likes a favorite mouse.
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MLB fandom Math be like ......
MLB fandom Maths is calling Adrienette toxic because they dislike Marinette's obsessive behaviour of Adrien and accuse her of stalking but ship Feligami despite how Felix also stalked Kagami and did worse than Marinette by kidnapping her.
MLB fandom Maths is hating on Kagami because she is getting in the way of Adrienette by having feelings for Adrien but is fine with Luka dating Marinette and supporting Luka at the same time.
MLB fandom Maths is saying Chloe doesn't deserve redemption because she never felt remorse or properly apologized for her actions but at the same time, forgive Felix and support his redemption arc despite him doing worse than Chloe and not uttering a single apology or properly repenting for his crimes.
MLB fandom Math is slandering Alya because they think she is a bad friend for believing Lila over Marinette as well as making a few ignorant decisions but go ahead and call Kagami a better friend despite her telling Felix LB's identity without her permission.
MLB fandom Math is attacking and cancelling small creators by accusing them of predator behaviour when they have made a slight mistake but are silent when a big content creator is openly showing predator behaviour.
MLB fandom Math is being quick to call out the toxic behaviour of some Chloe/Felix/Lila stans but staying quiet when some toxic Maribug/Adrichat or Adrienette stans also show signs of aggression, some even go as far as to support their behaviour (e.g what happened to that one Lila fan)
MLB fandom Math is celebrating the fact Chloe gets sent off to live with her abusive mother and is glad that she is written out of the show, justifying their opinion by saying she deserves to be abused by Audrey but if you say the same thing about Felix, they will go mad and call you an abuse apologist
MLB fandom math dislikes Sabrina's redemption because she only betrayed Chloe because she wasn't being benefitted by her friendship with Chloe and was being replaced but go ahead and support Nathalie's redemption when she ALSO betrayed Gabriel because she was also not being benefitted anymore by their partnership.
Disclaimer: These are just common double standards I've seen in the fandom so I thought is important to address this so please stay respectful when commenting :)
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waywardangel-wilds · 7 days
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Haymitch doesn't like going to the doctor's alone he always brings Effie 😭
Oh boy get ready for my controversial opinion on this pairing: I don’t think Effie and Haymitch want to or ever do become a real couple. I think they’re just too different.
Do I think they care for each other very deeply, probably even love each other? Yes 1000% (peep the Trisha reference), have they probably been having semi regular sex for years? Yes 1000% I just don’t think they ever want to become a real couple.
I think that during the games they had a sort of workplace forced proximity based relationship which was only the workplace partnership plus some recreational physical activity (lol), but nothing really beyond that. I mean, Haymitch is very much an alcoholic and not pleasant to be around. He’s also unlikely to change for Effie of all people, based on his past trauma and his attitude towards forming close relationships. I think that they get to know each other somewhat during that pre Katniss and Peeta time and develop a certain respect and friendship for the other.
Once the rebellion happens and Effie is imprisoned and eventually released they return to their friendship I think, mainly via occasional phone calls. Effie sometimes visits to see the whole gang, but I think Haymitch has a habit of telling her to get herself someone worthy of her once and for all.
I also think that Effie eventually does find that person and that her #1 cheerleader is Haymitch himself. He is truly happy for her and thinks she deserves to be happy. He has a toast ready to go for her wedding.
Whether or not Haymitch ever gets a partner is difficult for me to picture. I think it would be nice, and that Katniss probably wants that for him, but I don’t think Haymitch would seek anyone out for himself. I think he’d require a meddling daughter and meddling former friends-with-benefits duo to get him into a relationship.
I love the hayffie stories, of course, but I think it’s only plausible with the versions of Haymitch and Effie we get in the movies, not the book versions. I think that the book versions have a deeply loving/caring connection but are not compatible in lifestyle. I can’t see book Effie moving to 12 to be with Haymitch. I also don’t see any version of Haymitch ever moving away from district 12 for any woman.
So to get back to the topic of this actual ask, I think the last person Haymitch is gonna let talk him into visiting the doctor is Effie. Just because of the dynamic of their friendship — it’s very much a you can’t tell me what to do (playful) vibe. The only woman in his life who can force him to do things is (and don’t you tell her) Katniss. He loves that girl to pieces and she knows and abuses that fact. Eventually things get worse when Katniss gives birth to her mini-me and he’s once again forced to love an Everdeen girl at the cost of his own peace of mind (woe is him lmao).
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nobodyfamousposts · 1 year
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Can we ask about the otome au? It’s one of my favorite au’s and I’ve been so curious about it but it’s been a while since anything was mentioned about it.
If we can, has anything changed and/or any new details kinda sprung up in the lull interval?
Certainly!
It's a little odd since Lila is pretty much the Lila as we know her from canon while Felix and Luka are not. I originally just thought of the transmigrated into an otome game setup as an explanation as to why Lila would say Ladybug "betrayed" her. Since originally, Ladybug never does anything with Lila except protect her from akumas and support her as a hero and eventual replacement for the Ladybug Hero.
A couple additions are in regards to Gabriel and Chloe.
With Chloe being the "villainess" of the otome game, she's got a pretty poor fate set up for her. Unless SHE ends up isekaied as well, the only way for her to really avoid this fate would be if someone else helped her change. In this case, it would either have to be a result of some machinations of Lila that end up making Chloe act against her in a way that would be a benefit to everyone else (aka: reveal she's a liar and manipulator) OR it would take Felix or Luka to have some influence on her. Alternatively, they could push Adrien to be a better influence on Chloe by holding her accountable. If Chloe would change for anyone, it would be for Adrien.
Lila never really bothered with any route of the game other than Adrien's. Both the Hero side and the Civilian side. But neither side actually revealed Gabriel was Hawk Moth. The DLC alluded to it, but again, Lila never bothered with it, so she's as lost on Hawk Moth's identity as she is on Ladybug's new "role" in the game. Of course, that's not going to stop her from trying to find out who he is and make an alliance if it means taking out Ladybug for "interfering".
Felix and Luka have a strange duality.
Luka knows only the bare basics about the game—monsters attack, heroes help, and people who are now his friends and family get targeted. The problem is that he doesn't know just HOW these incidents occur or turn out, just that it's all ultimately supposed to be up to this one girl to resolve the problems. So he is understandably concerned that the girl in question doesn't seem particularly inclined to help and thus takes it upon himself to try and fix things or protect his new friends and family.
Felix, on the other hand, HAS the information about the game. He just doesn't care.
They end up forming a partnership that eventually turns into friendship. Albeit mostly because Luka forces the matter and Felix is just dragged along for the ride.
Felix: Why not? It can't be worse than what the game would originally have had me do.
Luka has always wanted a little sister. And now he has one in the form of a little goth cutie. The especially hilarious thing is that there is really no difference between Luka pre or post isekai. Both versions of Luka adore Juleka.
Luka (First Morning He Wakes Up): (Hugs Juleka) OMG I have the cutest sister in the world!
Juleka: (Nonplussed) Do you have to do this every morning?
Luka is...less than pleased when he realizes he is one of the potential capture targets. Especially when he realizes the type of girl Lila is.
...although......
Hear me out: since Luka knows only the basics about the game, what if he doesn't know who the Heroine is?
What if he thinks it's Marinette?
Luka: Okay, to help protect my new family and resolve any potential issues, I just need to find the Heroine. But where do I even start looking for her?
Marinette: I'm Ma-Ma-Marinette.
Luka: ...there she is!
Of course, he's not happy when Felix corrects him.
Luka: But she's cute and huggable and so darn lovable! Who else could be the Heroine if she isn't?
Felix: Well...
...he's even LESS happy when he finds out who the Heroine IS.
Luka: I'm sorry, you're saying WHAT?
Felix: (Sigh) The Heroine of this game is Lila Rossi.
Luka: ...the sausage-haired girl?!
And it only snowballs from there.
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olderthannetfic · 4 months
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Real life pet peeve.
People who're married to someone of a different ethnicity, and then openly hate on that ethnicity. You can also cover friendship, but marriage/partnership is just a whole other level of fucked up.
I don't fucking care how "justified" you feel in that hatred, that's just fucked up.
A person who's married to someone of a different ethnic background and keeps hating on that person, and this happens from EVERY ethnic background, this is not exclusive to one. Let's include religious beliefs to some extent. Maybe sexuality if we squint. And I mean actual hate and negative comments, not friendly ribbing or a bit of teasing.
If you have a negative experience with people of a certain background, ok. Get it. But if you then marry someone of that background, and you shamelessly talk shit about people of that background as a big monolithic hivemind? You're fucking weird, and I feel bad for your partner. And don't start the stupid "My partner is one of the good ones."
That's just nasty, you're nasty, what the fuck is wrong with you? It's Imo even worse when there are children involved. You are really going to shamelessly sit there and shit talk your own child's heritage because you hate it so much. Yet you still decided to marry someone of that background, and have a child with them. God give your childr/en strength because that shit can lead to so many issues.
I feel bad for the partner. If you're in a relationship like that, fucking leave. But especially when children are involved and the partner needs to wake up to the toxicity and fucking leave pronto.
You have no moral right to marry someone and the continue talking shit like that. Either get therapy or don't fucking date/marry people of that ethnicity, and be a little bitch somewhere else.
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butchxdaddy · 4 months
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It seems like you're thinking of a partner as more of a therapist than a partner...
noo big difference, but there are similarities. i’ve seen a lot of avoidants have this response, where they are comfortable dumping trauma, work difficulties, family issues, past relationship issues, mental health issues, etc on partners but then when their partner has issues and goes through mental health crises, they leave them.
in therapy, there isn’t a mutual space. one person pays the other to listen, advise, validate, etc. the dynamic is inherently manipulative- you’re seeing the best part of someone. it is their job (and an important one). but there’s a reason couples therapists give out homework… the actual work is between the two partners
partners should also include this- but on a mutual level. there is space for both experiences. partnership should be safe spaces where forgiveness, healing, acceptance, and accountability exist. you don’t just dump emotional baggage on your partner then leave them the way you do a therapist. it’s a mutual experience, where you both share and work through emotional, mental, spiritual experiences together. sharing vulnerabilities and being there for one another during tough times is literally a major component in relationships.
even just in friendship, this should exist. whenever a friend of mine hurts me, i don’t point fingers that they’re a bad person. i reflect on why that happened, how they grew up, what i know about their past, what would have informed that response, why they maybe haven’t been feeling safe, etc. i communicate immediately (not wait a month to bring it up) and hold them accountable to hurting me while also extending forgiveness and empathy, thinking of the little kid that’s hurting inside them. if they’re willing to accept responsibility for their actions and can reflect on what’s going on, willing to work to do better- amazing! an opportunity for trust and growth :) if they fire back, blame shift, shut down, withdraw, etc- then that’s someone who isn’t emotionally available for growth.
therapy can help build, strengthen, and repair relationships- but only if those actions are also happening in the relationship. a partnership without active forgiveness, mutual healing, a desire to work to understand the other, & to become better partners for each other, isn’t partnership.
the perfect partner doesn’t exist. in reality, people fuck up. they hurt each other. those that love you will recognize this, take responsibility for it, and express a desire to do and be better. those that love you will stay. those that give up, that leave, that don’t own up to their mistakes, that can’t extend forgiveness, that don’t care to understand why their partner functions a certain way, that don’t care to heal and be better… those people aren’t built for real, authentic partnership.
so, to conclude.
there is a stark difference between leaning on your partner for support & having your relationship needs met by them vs having them be your therapist. unfortunately, many ppl who run more disorganized/avoidant can shut down when their partners need to rely on them and start showing their own wounds. then they will say “you didn’t want a partner, you wanted a therapist” … in reality, they wanted a partner who genuinely meant for better & for worse, who loved them enough to stay when it got hard & support healing- not be responsible for it. those people who shut down when their partner has emotional baggage, wounds, and flaws need to reevaluate what relationship means to them, what it looks like, and open up communication instead of withholding, ruminating, and withdrawing from their partner
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Friendship headcanons for the Savoy twins?
•Friends? Let's just call it being an overcompensated acquaintance and/or colleague.
•Maybe the camaraderie began during a particularly rowdy evening the Marigold's hard-liquor establishment, following a fight or even a forced partnership courtesy of Asa Sweet.
•At first, it must have seemed relatively daunting: after all, these are some of he most notorious criminals in St. Louis. One wrong move could get you on their bad side—or worse. The last of of their so-called "friends" Asa mentioned in passing was found at the bottom of the Mississippi.
•But y'know what? So far, it hasn't been all too bad.
•There aren't too many eggshells to tread on once Y/N got used to their impulsivity and boisterousness. Maybe they even end up infecting them with it. When inevitably happens, Y/N may as well have got themselves a golden ticket into their little unhinged duo.
•As with romantic partners, the Savoys need someone to match their seemingly inexhaustible energy, and someone they're 80% confident won't sell them out. Someone who'll happily blast a wall apart with an automatic rifle and not feel guilty about it afterwards.
•Once that unofficial test has been passed, they aren't afraid to open up a little. Serafine's fondness for spices becomes Y/N's with little dishes the two of them cook up together when time is kind—or, just as often, seeing who can hold the most heat—and they've become almost as proficient at fly-fishing and navigating the swamps as Nico.
•Again, even with those little, gun-less, blood-less moments of peace, Y/N isn't certain they can exactly call themselves friends as such.
•Neither Nico nor Serafine have ever so much as uttered the word, in French or English.
•However, that all changed one night when a bar brawl had Y/N shoved up against the wall with a vicious eye glaring at them and a fist scrunched up and ready to knock them straight into hell.
•Y/N had never seen the Savoys step in as quick as they did.
•Serafine damaged a claw or two and Nico came out with a broken nose, but to them it was worth it.
•"You alright, mon ami?"
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rekaspbrak · 11 months
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thanks to my rewatch of Loki I’ve just been reminded how much I’m annoyed by (mostly) fellow Lokius shippers that insist Sylvie is problematic, abusive, toxic, rude to Loki and that she only used Loki for her own gain.
(And that’s coming from a person who also enjoys Lokius and I’m tired of fellow shippers pretending it’s not misogyny when it actually clearly is)
Are we really in any position to claim any of that when Mobius did the exact same if not even worse things to Loki?
Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, Loki was indeed used by him. The sole reason why Loki is alive, the sole reason why Mobius recruited Loki was for his own benefit. He needed to apprehend the variant that posed a threat to the stability of the multiverse and was eliminating their forces. Coming across Loki was a happy accident and in it, he saw the opportunity to finally capture that variant. Sure, he might have been fascinated by Loki’s nature and perhaps even harbored hopes that this partnership might work out for him even better than anticipated, but the main and primary reason why he even recruited him was to use him.
In fact, he explicitly stated in subsequent episodes that if Loki refused to cooperate, he wouldn't hesitate to prune him. He warned Loki that his survival hinged upon his willingness to comply.
He can be ruthless and manipulative to get what he wants and will not hesitate to take any means necessary to reach his goal. Mobius was not reluctant to strike at Loki's most vulnerable areas.
He’s smart enough to identify Loki’s weaknesses, and one of them is his affection for his mother. When he told him Loki killed his mother, while not entirely incorrect since Frigga’s death was an unintentional consequence of Loki’s actions, he aimed to shatter Loki emotionally and provoke a reaction. It's a classic tactic of emotional manipulation designed to coerce Loki into compliance.
He used a similar strategy in episode 4 where he deceived Loki, manipulated him into thinking that Sylvie, someone Mobius suspected Loki had grown close to, had been killed.  Then, he proceeded to taunt Loki, who was visibly distressed by his lies, all in an effort to provoke a response from him.
The finale made it evident that Mobius lacks physical combat skills, rendering him incapable of directly engaging in fights. Therefore, to gain an advantage over Loki, Mobius relies on identifying his vulnerabilities and exploiting them.
He can use the TimeTwister for when Loki misbehaves and controls him like a dog, or, he can throw him in a memory loop cell, subjecting him to both verbal and physical abuse for an indeterminate period, so basically someone else does that job for him.
That action in particular is something I noticed a lot of you tend to ignore. At this point, Mobius and Loki had already formed a camaraderie. It might not have been a full-fledged friendship just yet, but they were clearly on their way to becoming friends. Mobius was hurt that Loki decided to stab him in the back and destroy his trust in him by doing the exact thing he shouldn’t - running off with the Variant, even if that was for a good cause.
For Loki, Mobius risked a great deal: his own job, the friendship and trust of Ravonna, the trust placed in him and even Ravonna by the Time Keepers, and possibly even his own life. He had enough faith in Loki to believe that Loki wouldn't betray him and run off at the first opportunity.  And Loki betrayed that trust when he went after the mysterious Variant.
When Loki and Sylvie were captured by the TVA, it wasn’t jealousy that Loki had feelings for Sylvie that drove him (even though we like to headcanon that, we have to keep in mind Loki and Mobius’ relationship wasn’t written as romantic). Instead, it was his anger and resentment that stemmed from placing so much trust in Loki, only to have him do the very thing Mobius had believed he wouldn't.
Then, despite the fact that there was already some camaraderie between them, and despite the fact that Loki genuinely meant well, Mobius in his anger, completely dismissed the possibility of Loki being honest with him. He outright declared that he no longer needed Loki and, to make matters worse, he threw him into the Time Loop cell where he knew Loki would endure repeated instances of physical assault.
I know that some of you like to argue, “oh, well at least he didn’t choose a worse memory! He clearly cares about him then!” but honestly, that’s just very questionable and just....uh?
The reason Mobius selected that memory was because he knew Lady Sif would inflict repeated physical pain upon Loki and because of what Lady Sif says to him during that loop. She hurls insults at him, calling him a "conniving, craven, pathetic worm" and that he deserves to be alone for the rest of eternity.
Mobius made the conscious decision to throw Loki into the Time Loop cell, despite the budding friendship between them, despite the budding trust, despite everything that happened and was perfectly fine with that.
It wasn't because Mobius was manipulated by the TVA or forced to do this; he did it of his own accord. He chose to punish Loki and because he wanted to use him, break him to extract info out of him. Because he refused to believe Loki’s words.
I’m shocked that so many of you overlook that and pretend it didn’t happen, because as much as I love Mobius and their dynamic, what Mobius did in that particular episode alone was more severe than anything Sylvie did to Loki throughout the entire season.
In the span of a few minutes, Mobius:
insulted Loki, called him an asshole, bad friend and compared him to a cockroach
mocked his feelings to provoke him
lied to him that someone Loki cared about had been killed, manipulating his emotions for a reaction
despite Loki’s genuine intentions, he refused to listen to him
he bluntly stated that Loki was no longer of any use to him 
he threw Loki into a place where he would endure physical, verbal, and emotional abuse, intentionally subjecting him to suffering
through his actions, Mobius reinforced the idea that Loki deserves to be alone, (just as Loki was in the process of forming actual, meaningful relationships with at least two people; Mobius and Sylvie, Mobius goes and punishes Loki by reminding him he deserves to be alone)
and despite all of that, he still expected Loki to provide him with information, meaning he did all of that because he still intended to use him for his own benefit
Eventually, Mobius did go on a bit of a personal investigation and discovered that Loki had been telling the truth. However, by the time he discovered the truth, the damage had already been done, and Loki had already been hurt.
In short, he made a conscious decision to hurt Loki in every way imaginable to get what he wanted. 
The series showed that Mobius was aware that there was a possibility that Loki might be telling the truth. However, his anger, stubbornness and unwavering certainty in his own righteousness blinded him from considering the possibility that Loki could be right.
Again, I like Mobius very much and I like Lokius as well, but jesus christ guys, some of you need to take a step back from solely blaming Sylvie as the worst person ever when Mobius did the exact same things. If not even worse, because unlike Mobius, Sylvie at least never manipulated Loki into thinking his feelings were invalid, never claimed that his mother had died because of him, never tricked him into believing that someone he cared about had been murdered.
Sylvie never subjected Loki to a memory loop filled with continuous verbal insults reminding him that he is oh, just the worst and that he deserves the life of loneliness for the rest of eternity, all the while he also suffered physical pain.
You’re free to have personal preferences and to dislike a ship or a character, but for the love of Lord stop claiming Sylvie is abusive and toxic and what not, when our own ship is just as flawed if not even more flawed. 
Sylvie did this, she did that, but where’s that same vitriol for Mobius? Why are you only coming after the woman? They both did bad shit that hurt Loki, but some of you only see Sylvie’s actions and pretend Mobius was nothing but supportive of Loki the entire time, which is wrong and disgusting. No, Mobius and Lokius is not better than Sylvie and Sylki and it’s time for some of you to accept that.
I like Mobius and I like Lokius but I’m tired of being called a misogynist because of some of you who cannot accept the fact that Mobius has committed and inflicted just as many (if not more) morally questionable things as Sylvie.
And the worst thing is that those who call this misogyny are actually right.
Mobius is a good, compelling character and will likely prove to be a good friend to Loki in Season 2, but he’s not innocent either. He can be manipulative. He can be horrible. He can be brutal to get what he wants. Yes, even to Loki.
Even Loki acknowledged that, so why can’t you?
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My grumpy ass has seen too much attack on Sylvie after ep4 despite having proper filtering and blocked blogs and decided to write this instead of studying for my exams. I’m sorry to probably disappoint, though: I am not solely a sylki or a lokius shipper. Both exist for me and make sense to me without excluding each other.
I think one thing people kinda forget when they aggressively discard Loki’s factual, canonical relationship with either Mobius or Sylvie is that complex characters tend to have complex relationships. You can be friends with more than one person and/or you can be in love with more than one. Also, the intensity of a connection can be different depending on how long/deep people happen to know each other. It doesn’t automatically mean that one connection is more valuable than the other. Everything matters, everything affects and shapes a person’s growth.
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Loki clearly fell in love with Sylvie, or more like with an expectation or an impression of her. It happened too fast, and he had no time to process if he can trust her, or what it is she wants, or is it even mutual. He just decided that he deeply cares for her and hence is devoted to her. She was a bit more perceptive and used it to her advantage. Mortal humans fall in love all the time just like him. It happens earlier or later in life, or never to some.
Sylvie and Loki are variants of the same person. Sylvie feels like a Loki from the first Thor, desperate and lonely and angry. He probably falls for her because he recognises this similarity but he doesn’t take into account that he himself already changed. But well, symbolically he learns to respect and accept himself, his past and present selves, his wrong doings, learns to analyse and grow from there into something new.
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And where Sylvie rejects him, Mobius accepts him. With Mobius he learns to respect and care for others. His partnership with Mobius goes from the good old back-stabbing through betrayal and hurting each other to a deeper connection. They share thoughts and learn to understand each other’s motivations. Loki is humbled by the fact that infinity stones are paper weights but even more by the fact that he himself is essentially just a little dude who wants to have friends, to have fun and do something meaningful. His past doesn’t define him or lock him out of any other probable futures.
He learns to be a friend. It is first of all a friendship, and as it deepens they love and care for each other even more. Maybe it’s something that never worked out with Thor, to be equal and to be seen.
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In season 2 Loki reevaluates his own priorities. Sylvie still matters to him but he lifts his expectations and just lets her be, tries to understand her and love her as she is. To love this way, without asking anything back, is actually a very powerful thing. It changes you. He probably sees her better now and understands too.
He puts more significance into his reciprocated connections, he learns to combine self-love with the love for others. It might be my specific perception, but I don’t think that platonic love is somehow worse or better than romantic love. They don’t cancel each other. We learn from a small age that love is this and that, and it always ends with kisses, kids and weddings, but in fact it’s not. I’m not saying that dreaming about this kind of love is wrong. I’m saying that it’s not the only possible option. If Mobius and Loki are never engaged in physical intimacy it doesn’t render their unique connection meaningless or less valuable. It is still clearly love, there’s still devotion.
What’s more, both Sylvie and Mobius understand how important it is for Loki to have that connection with the other. They don’t communicate directly that much though, and it’s really a shame.
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That’s how Sylvie lashes out on Mobius and he is puzzled and upset by it. Probably she knows about his life, so she points out that protecting the timelines is not personal enough for him. She’s right though; maybe not so much about Mobius but about the TVA on the whole. Btw Loki is being part of it right now and he behaves the same way as Mobius. It’s just that Mobius is the one who is used to light things up. The moment isn’t right though, and he doesn’t read the room.
But the thing is, because it’s not personal, he’s able to stay afloat, be there in the moment and not be distracted by something out there. Mobius is aware that he might be weakened by what he sees and doesn’t want to risk the entire operation because of that. (Maybe he’s wrong and if Sylvie shows him his life he’ll be able to stay put like B-15, but again, he doesn’t want to risk)
I think that both connections being equally meaningful to Loki will make his further choices difficult and the consequences heavy. Mobius’s and Sylvie’s, and Loki’s lives could depend on that. Just imagine if he’s made to choose between them, to sacrifice one for the other. Or to experience all this love, remember all of it and look at them and see they don’t recognise him anymore on any timeline. Or have to choose to never be in their lives to save them both or hide them both from Kang.
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𝙂𝙡𝙞𝙢𝙥𝙨𝙚 𝙊𝙛 𝙐𝙨 (Robin Arellano) Pt.5
Pairing: Robin Arellano x Fem!Reader
Word Count: 2,847
Date Published: 8/7/22
Tags: Angst, AU, Alternate Universe, Heartbreak, breakups, (past) fluff, eventual Vance Hopper X Reader, time-skips, flashbacks, confessions, fighting.
Description: (This AU Has no grabber what so ever. It's just with the characters. I'm also making them all 16-17 just because it seems better to me lol.)
You and Robin had been dating for quite a while. It all went downhill When he began to get into fights again. A bit later, you get with someone else. How will Robin handle seeing you with someone who isn't him?
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'𝘊𝘢𝘶𝘴𝘦 𝘴𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘐 𝘭𝘰𝘰𝘬 𝘪𝘯 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘦𝘺𝘦𝘴 𝘈𝘯𝘥 𝘵𝘩𝘢𝘵'𝘴 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘐 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘥 𝘢 𝘨𝘭𝘪𝘮𝘱𝘴𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘶𝘴
(𝙍𝙤𝙗𝙞𝙣'𝙨 𝙋.𝙊.𝙑)
"I'd Like that." I watched as (Y/n) walked out with Vance. I shouldn't be as mad as I am. I get she moved on. Great. Wonderful. Fantastic for her! But with of all people, Vance Hopper? I mean, C'mon. He's the off brand version of me! She majorly downgraded if you ask me. I shouldn't be talking though. I did go back to Paige. That girl is worse than Vance. Don't ask me why I did it. I can't tell you, because I don't know why.
Yes I do.
I did it because I know I fucked up. I fucked up with (Y/n) majorly. More than I had with anyone before. I took my anger out on her for no reason. I ruined a great 4 year friendship, and an even better partnership. I know it was my fault. I would admit that to her face if I could. But I can't. I never see her anymore. Ok, that's an over exaggeration. I do see her. A lot actually. I just never talk to her.
I see her when she skates down the streets to meet up with Finney. I see her in my 3rd, 6th, and 7th periods. I see her in the cafeteria sitting with Gwen and Donna. I see her at the record shop off of 8th street. I see her a lot in my dreams though. Ever since I left her at Crystal Hill, I have the same dream of her. It isn't really a dream. It's just a memory of how we broke up. The same dream for the past 3 weeks and 5 days.
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"You're late. Again." I heard (Y/n) say as I walked up behind her. She was sitting under the large Bristlecone Pine Tree we usually met at. I didn't say anything as I sat down next to her. It took her a moment to look at me. I could tell she was upset. She normally greeted me with a hug, or at least a smile. But tonight was different. Before I had the chance to say something she took my left arm in her hand. "Robin, what the hell is this??" I yanked my arm away from her. "An extra limb! What does it look like?" I replied. "It looks like you got into another fight." I scoffed. "Maybe I did. And what about it?" She didn't say anything and grabbed my other arm to look at it as well. I pulled it back quicker this time.
"Is this why you were late again? Because you got into another fight? Robin, you said you would stop."
"And I did!" "For a week." "Ok? Well at least I stopped!" She shook her head in response."No, you did stop. Now you keep getting back into them!" "What's the harm in fighting people? I always come out on top anyways. I'm fine after a day or two." I replied. "The harm in it is that you're always late to everything now! For fuck's sake, you've even stood me up a few times! And for what? A stupid fist fight? All because some kid bumped into you on accident? Fighting isn't that important Robin. You don't need to do it at any minor inconvenience." "(Y/n), it is important!" "Why?" "Because-" "Is it more Important than me?!" I could hear a small crack in her voice as she said that. As if she was about to cry. I didn't say anything.
The clouds began to clear from the storm that took place earlier, giving off the moon's light. (Y/n) finally turned back to face me. She cut herself off when she saw my arm. I could hear a light gasp escape her mouth. She took my hand and looked closer at my wound. She always did have poor eye sight, so I shouldn't have been shocked that she couldn't see the full extent of my wound. "Robin- That isn't just a gash. It looks like-" I stood up and pulled myself out of her grasp. "What? Like someone stabbed me? Yeah, they did. As a matter of fact, he dragged the blade a bit if you can't already tell." She stood up and took a step forward as I took one back. "That looks really bad. You need to go somewhere to-"
"No!" She stopped in her tracks. "But it's-" "God will you just calm down for once?" "All you ever do is baby me. You treat me like a child! You look at me like I'm some abandoned puppy on the side of the road! If anything I should be looking at you like that." She just stood there. I couldn't bring myself to look at her. "You're so fucking clingy (Y/n)! You trail behind me everywhere I go! You follow me out of school, or when we're in the supermarket. God, I can't even go out of my house without you asking my own mom where I am! It's not a shock that you have no other friends. Everyone notices how you act so big and bad, but deep down Inside you're just insecure and hate everything about yourself. You're too codependent. You act like you have some claim over me as a person! You ask everyone where I am at all times. You need to learn to fend for yourself for once. I'm not your property, and you need to learn to get a grip."
I had no clue why I was saying all of this. Today had been a shit day from the start and an even shittier night now. What was I so mad about anyways? Why was I always the bad guy in our relationship? All I wanted was for us to be happy. But it never seemed to work out like that. I had planned on talking to her about it tonight. Just, not in this manner. When I finally looked up at her I felt my heart drop a bit.
She was standing in front of me, gripping her elbows as she tried to stop herself from crying. It wasn't working. Her eyeliner was messed up and her mascara was running down her cheeks. Come to think of it, why was she wearing makeup? She never bothered to put any on. And what's with that dress? I'd only seen her wear one once and that was when-
Oh fuck.
Today was our anniversary. Our year and a half to be exact. That would explain why she had her hair done and makeup on. Why she wasn't wearing worn out converse and jeans, but a dress and cardigan. And the shiny bag next to her satchel. It looked like a gift bag. And here I was. My hair tied down with my bandana. Blood soaked clothes, and a torn pair of shoes. On top of that, I just took out all my pent up anger on her. Words couldn't express the amount of guilt I felt as I stood there and watched her. I couldn't tell if she was shaking due to the cold breeze, or the fact I just shouted and broke her heart.
"Mi corazón, I'm so sorry. I-I didn't mean to say all of that. I just had a really bad day. I don't know why-" I quickly walked over and wrapped my arms around her. She automatically shoved me off and took a few steps back. "Is that how you really feel?" She asked. "No! No! Well yes. No? Sort of. But I was going to talk to you-" She cut me off. "Why didn't you tell me sooner? You didn't need to fuck with my feelings for years. I'm sorry I'm so 'Clingy'. I just worry about you a lot. I don't want to see you hurt. And after my dad-"
"(Y/n). This has nothing to do with your dad ok? Let's just-" "Can you not cut me off?" She said, cutting me off. "I'm sorry that I-" "No. I'm sorry Robin. I'm sorry that I thought you ever cared about me to begin with. I'm sorry that I thought you were different than before. God, I'm so naïve. To think that you actually were different than Paige? To think that after all these years you would change after she lost her grip on you. I'm sorry that I gave you everything I could. That I was the one who cared for all of your injuries. That I was the one who helped tutor you whenever you didn't understand math. That I was the one who would sneak into your house at night to make sure you were ok?! This was all such Bullshit! I should've listened to Vance when I had the chance!"
I scoffed and walked closer. "To Vance? Are you shitting me right now (Y/n)? Vance Hopper. You'd listen to what he had to say about me?" She wiped her tears and looked at me. "Oh, like you don't listen to all the lies Paige tells you about me?" She crossed her arms and pursed her lips. "I don't even talk to her anymore! Ever since you moved here she wants nothing to do with me!" I shout. "Oh really? When she rubs up on you and shouts 'Robbie' every time you see her tells me otherwise."
"Well, maybe I should go rub up on her back!" (Y/n) looked livid. Beyond livid. "God Robin, you never know when to stop do you?! Whether that be with your words or fights. Maybe I should go date vance instead!" She looked almost as shocked as I must have when she said that. "That isn't what I meant. I meant that-"
"You do that (Y/n). You do that." I felt furious. At her? Yes, of course. But more at myself for letting things get this far. "You shouldn't be sorry. It should be me. I'm sorry that I left Paige for you. At least she cared about me." She laughed. "Cared about you? She purely used you to climb the social ladder. She never hung out with you. She bought your favor. Might be a good time to let you know that she was fucking with Bruce Yamada from May to September."
"I'm sorry that I ever gave you a chance." She rolled her eyes. "I'm sorry that you're emotionally unavailable." "I'm sorry that you're not as pretty as Paige." "I'm sorry you're not as strong as Vance!" "I'm sorry that no one cares about you." "I'm sorry that your parents want you out of the house!" "I'm sorry that your dad offed himself. At least I have-"
I turned back to get one more look at her before I headed down the hill to my car. I knew I hit a bit of a nerve. More than a nerve. I definitely crossed the line with that one. (Y/n) was completely done for. She stood there bawling her eyes out and looking at me like I was the monster. To be fair, I was. I still didn't know why I was acting like this to her. I cared about her more than anyone in the world. I wanted nothing more than for her to be happy. I didn't want to leave her here alone and miserable.
"I'm sorry that I ever loved you!"
Her words didn't just echo in the forest. They echoed in my head as well. Love? Is that what she just said? That she loves me? She did love me, didn't she? It all hit me at once. Everything she did for me. All the things she said. The way she would set aside her entire days plans to make sure I was ok. Or ditch a friend to see me for just a minute.
I watched as she grabbed the shiny bag and walked towards me. She threw it at me, hitting my chest as I caught it with a small thud. "Happy fucking anniversary Arellano. I hope that all the money I spent on that and this argument was worth it." She turned back and sat down under the tree, hugging her knees to her chest. I looked in the bag, removing the paper. There was a small wooden box inside. The gift inside left me in awe.
It was a small silver belt buckle. It had the initials R.A engraved in gold in the middle with the entire thing being outlined in it too. I remember talking to (Y/n) once about how much I'd kill to have a custom belt buckle. She even asked me to draw it out. The one she threw at me was identical to the drawing. I knew I fucked up. But this was the icing on the cake. This had to have been well over $110. With the initials, even more than that.
I stood there, watching her cry into her own arms. All because of me. I was her boyfriend. I should be holding her and apologizing, begging for her forgiveness right now. But I couldn't bring myself too. I was too embarrassed and ashamed. I guess she knew I was still there. Because she turned to me and pointed to my car down the hill. "You can go now, dipshit." Before turning back around to look at the forest.
I slowly made my way down the hill and into my car, laying my head down onto the top of my wheel and groaned. Were we breaking up? Or were we already broken up with to begin with? I could feel a few tears leave my eyes as I started my car and put it into reverse. I took one more glance to see that she was gone.
"Goodbye Mi corazón." I mumbled before I pulled out and drove back down the hill and into town.
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𝘈𝘯𝘥 𝘐 𝘵𝘳𝘺 𝘵𝘰 𝘧𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘧𝘰𝘳 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘰𝘶𝘤𝘩 𝘉𝘶𝘵 𝘐'𝘮 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘸𝘢𝘺 𝘪𝘵 𝘸𝘢𝘴
I sat in the chair next to Paige's hospital bed. Her parents were flabbergasted to say the least. I had to switch up the story of what happened in the bathroom that morning. It took a lot of convincing, but they decided to not press charges against (Y/n). I had heard the entire thing from outside the bathroom. The only reason I was with Paige was because I missed (Y/n). I thought that maybe if I tried to move on I would get over her. I didn't though. I tried. I really really tried. Every Hug I gave Paige, Ever kiss she gave me. Any and everything we did, I Imagined she was (Y/n).
It helped for a little bit. But when she showed up to school a week after our break up, it all went downhill again. Everyone knew. It wasn't a secret that we weren't stuck together like glue now. And the fact Paige told everyone we were together again didn't help my case. I remember when I saw her for the first time after. She was sitting in the music room alone. I could hear quiet sniffles and a the hum of a guitar. When I looked through my Classroom's doorframe I could see her in the corner of the room with her guitar in her lap. Her eyes were puffy and red from crying. It took every bone in my body to not go across the hall.
That was right before I saw Vance Hopper walk into the room. He walked up to (Y/n) and sat down next to her. He began talking to her for a while. Soon she had stopped crying and was laughing with him as he played something on her guitar. He said something and she blushed. Hard. I watched as he planted a kiss on her cheek. "Yo, Robin. You good?" I turned to Finney as he asked. "Yeah-Why?" He blinked. "Uhhh cause your palms are bleeding a bit." I looked down to see that my nails had been digging into my palms hard enough to make them bleed.
When I looked back across the hall, I stared in disbelief as Vance walked out with is hand in (Y/n)'s. As if he knew I had been watching the whole time, He turned around and winked at me before walking down the hall with her.
"ROBIN!"
I looked up from the tile floor to see Matty, his friends, and two of Paige's closest friends in the hospital room. I guess they had come to visit after school. "Errrr Yeah?" I ask. "Well?" Matty asked. "Well what?" Abigail rolled her eyes at me. "Well, are you coming to that new Roller rink with us tonight? Paige said she didn't mind anyways." I turned to look at Paige and all she did was nod. I agreed before they all left the room. I gave Paige's hand a squeeze out of guilt before leaving the room as well.
𝘚𝘢𝘪𝘥 𝘐'𝘮 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘦 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘴𝘢𝘪𝘥 𝘐 𝘮𝘰𝘷𝘦𝘥 𝘰𝘯 𝘐'𝘮 𝘰𝘯𝘭𝘺 𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘦 𝘱𝘢𝘴𝘴𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦 𝘪𝘯 𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘢𝘳𝘮𝘴 𝘏𝘰𝘱𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘐'𝘭𝘭 𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘥 𝘈 𝘨𝘭𝘪𝘮𝘱𝘴𝘦 𝘰𝘧 𝘶𝘴
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yanderes-galore · 8 months
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I gotta request, uh, I hope that is okay?
Reader X Hofnarr/Tricky! Platonic scenarios are my preferred get go, but it can be whichever you feel!
Reader is forced to watch as Hofnarr loses his mind to the Improbability Drive, all the way to the end. They know what's happening, and while they do everything they can to help, they can't stop it no matter how much they want to. When it all has taken it's course, and the Reader realizes that Hofnarr isn't... "Hofnarr" anymore, it's already too late to run.
I hope you enjoy your day/night, and get better soon!
Oh now this is just sad. Here you go, Darling watches their friend descend into obsessive madness and they can't do anything about it. Sorry it got a bit short, I was having issues with pacing due to not being in the fandom right now :(
I bounced some ideas around on how to treat Tricky with @krystalkitdemi, Hope you enjoy!
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Yandere! Platonic! Hofnarr/Tricky Scenario
Pairing: Platonic
Possible Trigger Warnings: Gender-Neutral Darling, Obsession, Stalking, Descent into insanity, Sadism, Kidnapping implied, Open ended fic, Violence, Blood, OOC Tricky.
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Friends weren't a very common thing on Nevada. Any sort of partnership was often to use the other for your own benefit. That or someone always expected something in return. Genuine friendship was rare.
You and Hofnarr were an exception.
Even Hofnarr had his friendship taken advantage of by Jeb. Yet when it came to you, another scientist, you genuinely just wanted someone to lean on in this world. It wasn't like being a Nexus scientist was the best or safest job anyways.
Hofnarr is someone who also just wants a friend. When it came to you, things were very genuine. You saw him as a friend who was not only very intelligent but loved fun.
Good things never last long in Nevada, unfortunately.
Things between you were fantastic. Then Hofnarr kept getting involved with Improbability Drives. You don't know why but it was most likely due to a set of experiments that needed conducting. Sadly... such a thing affected your friend in strange ways.
Painful ways.
It's subtle at first. Slight pains, memory issues, odd mentions of sadism. The last bit is expected from most people but it put you... off.
It hurt you to see Hofnarr in such a strange condition. He'd tell you things are okay but you aren't blind to his painful twitches. You know he's suffering due to the mysterious drives... yet you can't do anything.
Despite Hofnarr's changes you stuck by him. You were even reprimanded for pushing off your work to check on him. You didn't care how others saw your friendship.
You'd do everything you can to preserve it.
Hofnarr appreciated your concern. Not many would pity the clown and violence loving scientist. You always seemed concerned of his help in pain.
Part of him even thinks you two were meant to be good friends.
Even when Hofnarr's condition got worse, you stayed. More violent twitching, outbursts, and memory issues came to light and the thought kept destroying you. You wanted to help, you asked him if you could, but he always said not to worry.
"There has to be something I can do. I can't just sit back and allow you to suffer." You said one day.
"There's nothing you can do. It's okay, I've come to terms with it." Hofnarr answered, a small smile on his face.
Not long after you had heard Hofnarr was working with Jeb on something. You never trusted their friendship but there was no need to intervene. Hofnarr trusted that man with his life.
Then there came news of Jeb's plan. He had been using Hofnarr's research and genius to put it in motion. You tried to convince Hofnarr to abandon the plan
He did not... and after things were set off, that's the last you saw of him.
You felt hatred towards Jeb for what has happened. If he didn't drag Hofnarr into this you could still be beside your friend! You have a feeling with his condition... he wouldn't have lasted long alone.
In fact as far as you know... your friend may have died in the fall.
You spent a lot of time grieving your friend afterwards. Once you escaped the tower and fled into the streets away from Zeds, you tried to move on. There was no time to cry when most of your time was spent trying not to die.
It was either bandits, Zeds, or surviving gang members. There was occasionally Nexus Soldier groups you had to avoid to. Your mind quickly adapts to survival like most in this place.
Seeing mass death wasn't uncommon. Admittedly you did find it odd when large groups of people were laid in a bloody mess when you passed by but you felt it was normal. These streets have changed...
Along with something else.
Ghoulish red eyes stare at you from the shadows of buildings. Blood stains claws used to rip into flesh for fun. You appear to be another victim of this beast.
You don't even notice things until you hear excited giggles. You pause your walk on the street only to be hit from behind with something steel. Pain courses through your body as you tumble onto the ground. Weakly you try to check for anything broken but all you find it broken skin, not bone thankfully.
Something must be sprained or ruptured at least though.
With blinding speed as Zed greets your gaze. A mask sits on his face and he looks like your typical circus clown. Upon further examination you also realize you were just hit with a street sign.
"HEY FRIEND. WANNA PLAY?"
You try to listen closer to the voice of the clown, swearing it sounds familiar past all the distortion. You shake your head softly... realizing it can't be who you think it is. Or... can it if he's a Zed?
"Who are you...?"
"TRICKY. YOU?"
You say your name cautiously, noticing the twitching of his movements. You had your suspicions, the clown theme and twitching too familiar. Yet you keep your mouth shut.
The clown pauses for a minute, tilting his head at the name. The silence is deafening....
"OH I KNOW YOU! I THINK...." Tricky responds. "WE WERE FRIENDS BEFORE! BEST FRIENDS...."
You take your chances.
"Hofnarr?"
"... DON'T CALL ME THAT!" The clown corrects, snapping in rage for a moment. "I'M TRICKY, AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE BEING GREAT FRIENDS."
The clown steps closer, raising the sign you assume is his weapon of choice.
"IT'LL BE JUST LIKE BEFORE! NO ONE CAN TELL US WHAT TO DO NOW! NO ONE CAN BETRAY ME OR YOU! I THINK I'VE MISSED YOU FROM WHAT I REMEMBER!" The clown chirps in a cheery tone before raising the sign upwards. It looks like he'll hurt you if you don't move
"NOW HOLD STILL..." The clown giggles. "WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SO MUCH FUN!!!"
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Friends to Lovers Fics Masterlist (4)
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☆Fated From The Start ☆-andromedadoesntwrite (ao3) Summary: Katniss and Peeta have been best friends for years now, being the only ones that truly understand each other. Somehow a drunk game of truth and dare leaves them both lost and unsure of what their friendship was. A story about an archer and the son of a baker who are scared of their feelings. A meddlesome sister, two annoying brothers, a grouch uncle, a strict mother and a supportive group of friends. Most of the time anyways.
Best Laid Plans-atetheredmind (ao3) Summary: When they discover their parents used to date, best friends Katniss and Peeta devise a plan to get them back together. Unfortunately, things don't always go according to plan…or sometimes, even worse, they do. Modern AU. Everlark.
Alone With You-ashyblondwaves (ao3) Summary: A secret camping trip, fishing for dinner, and an undesirable proposition. Katniss and Peeta’s friendship veers off into territory they were not expecting. AU. C'est La Vie-amelia_day (ao3) Summary: The last way Katniss Everdeen wanted to spend the days leading up to Christmas was snowed in with her ex-husband. Cold Coffee-andromedadoesntwrite (ao3) Summary: Katniss Everdeen is a 26 year old English teacher who one day has an unfortunate run in with a stranger and his coffee. Ruining her day, but little did she know how much of him she was really about to see.
Even-annieoakley1 (ao3) Summary: Katniss Everdeen tries to navigate the rough waters of long-distance with her boyfriend while juggling her time with a surprising new friend. But when Gale makes a decision that jeopardizes their relationship, Katniss realizes that she can settle the score. And she picks Peeta Mellark to help her get even. Written for Prompts in Panem- Round 3, Day 3. Visual prompt: frat party.
found-asmileyoucouldbottle (ao3) Summary: "Did you love Annie right away, Finnick?" I ask. "No," A long time passes before he adds "She crept up on me." Pre-trilogy, Odesta. Mostly fluff.
Love Is…-annieoakley1 (ao3) Summary: The story of how Peeta Mellark became Peeta Everdeen, spanning fifteen years of partnership, friendship, and love. Everlark, modern day AU. Complete.
The First Time-annieoakley1 (ao3) Summary: Everlark the summer of 2012. When Peeta is about to go off to college, Katniss starts to see him in a different light.
The Ride Home-AnotherSongAnotherMile (ao3) Summary: Needing a ride home from a late night party, Katniss swallows her pride and calls on her former best friend, Peeta Mellark.
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Prongsfoot Week 2023 - Day 1
This... maybe got away from me a bit, but I'll take any chance to present my Prongsfoot ramblings in a semi-organized fashion!
When and Why did you begin to Ship Prongsfoot? What makes you Ship it? Basically, just gush on this ship.
Somewhat ironically, developing a NOTP led me to this OTP: Back when the books were still coming out, I was a Harmony shipper. (Not a crazy one, I swear!) This led to a lot of "discussions" with people who shipped other pairings, but most relevantly with several Sirius/Remus fans who were both extremely disdainful of my noncanon ship and adamant that their ship was, in fact, canon/eventual canon. This led to little Past Me re-reading the PoA and post-PoA books multiple times, trying and failing to see this "proof" of Wolfstar, but in the process paying a lot more attention to pre-Golden Trio characters. "Actually," I thought, "Sirius seems a lot more attached to Harry's dad than to Lupin. Huh." I found myself fascinated by their dynamic, by the hold Sirius' friendship with (and loss of) James had on Sirius, and how much is implied about James that we don't get to see (the Potter lineage, James "maturing," etc). Imagine my disappointment when not only was Sirius/James not popular, but Wolfstar, which didn't appeal to me, was only gaining steam (see: "Wolfstar is canon/eventual canon!"). Shipping wars were more 'maniacal sports fans' than 'political discourse' at the time, but between being deep into then-fandom and not liking Wolfstar, I found myself shipping Sirius/James almost by accident because… Well, it just made so much more sense.
Yes, James is dead before the series actually starts; yes, James marries a woman and has a son; but I've yet to meet a fandom that lets such paltry things as 'canonical facts' stop a ship, and it's always baffled me that Prongsfoot isn't more widely recognized for its potential, if nothing else. I will always believe this stems from a one-two punch of early HP fandom's obsession with canon vs noncanon, Jily being canon, which led to Wolfstar and the subsequent idea that Sirius "belongs" to Remus With the series completed, we have a surprisingly complex character in James, tantalizingly hinted-at if not explored in-depth, and we're given ample on-page examples of Sirius' exceptional qualities as well as his deep attachment to James, who must be exceptional himself to command this kind of devotion and affection. They're the most interesting characters to me, for what we see and what we don't see, and unlike a lot of other pairings they don't require a hammer and chisel to force them into a romantic mold: They're best friends and platonic soulmates, but they could just as easily be romantic partners and the shift feels completely natural. There's an equality and an authenticity to their partnership that I cherish deeply and don't find in a lot of their other ships, which often require them to be OOC… and if a fic doesn't include them as each other's best friend and Most Important Person, I consider it OOC.
In a way, lack of good James/Sirius friendship nudged me towards actual Prongsfoot because other ships de-emphasize the importance of James and Sirius in each others' lives to make the ship work, including outright giving their roles away, ex. someone else being the only person who can rein James in, Sirius running away to [name here] instead of to James. James and Sirius make each other more themselves, for better and for worse, and I honestly believe that they believe it's always for the better: They embrace each other's strengths and weaknesses, love each other for their flaws instead of despite them, support each other even after death (if the memory of James wasn't instrumental in Sirius surviving Azkaban, I'll eat my nonexistent hat). Sirius has so much devotion to James, enough to eat rats and face death for James' son, his godson, who he had a year of knowing before it all went to hell, that I find it hard to believe he had much room for anyone else; and from what we see, that devotion was absolutely reciprocated. Even after marrying Lily, even after Harry, JamesandSirius were such a thing that James' own wife writes to Sirius to say my husband is down and only you can make him feel better, not his wife or child or other friends. They would have buried bodies for each other, and I'd be surprised if that didn't actually happen off-page. What we see of their past makes it clear that they existed together in some rarefied space that would have absolutely continued regardless of who they dated or who they married or where they wound up. I'll always be a little sad that we didn't get more of these two in canon, and I'll always be equal parts frustrated and bewildered that these two are not the Marauder ship, or at least a much much more popular ship than they are.
Over time, the popular depictions of James and Sirius grew increasingly incompatible with the way I saw them, which is generally closer to canon: James is not an idiot jock or an indiscriminate bully (he's very discriminate, thank you) or an abuser, Sirius is not an idiot sex addict or peer-pressured by James into bullying (he's absolutely an active bully of Snape & Co) or there solely to fawn over Remus. This is also where I started to dislike Remus, sorry Remus fans, neither uwu softboi Remus and uberdom alpha Remus are my jam I eventually fell out of fandom in general and didn't think more than the occasional wistful thought until I re-read the books and had that Prongsfoot flame reignited, enough that I started to read HP fic and even write/post stuff again. I'm endlessly grateful for the authors who put such wonderful work out there, and for people who cultivate this little pocket of a fandom that's otherwise become alien to me, as someone who just doesn't get much of New Marauder Fandom and its ATYD influences.
James and Sirius are soulmates and friends-to-lovers and fluff and angst and boyish exuberance and the uncertainty of growing up, they're knowing you're meant to spend your lives together and struggling to exist when your other half is gone, they're sweet domesticity and the darkness of war and Good vs Evil and all the shades of gray, they're loving someone relentlessly and instinctively and maybe unwisely but knowing it's 100% reciprocated, no-strings-attached, because you can't be any other way and wouldn't change that (or them) if you could. There's just so many ways to explore Prongsfoot and all of it works because these boys contain multitudes, and I just want to gather all of it around me like a nesting squirrel and snuggle down amidst the Prongsfoot goodness.
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somehow, nicky was just positive, this was andy's fault
Somehow, Nicky was just positive, this was Andy's fault. It had her fingerprints all over it.
'... The crown jewel of our summer season,' says the programme director of the Royal Albert Hall, an obsequious man Nicky usually avoided at all costs. 'We can't wait to see what your partnership will bring to our stage.'
He leaves after another round of gladhanding and assurances that contracts and details were already with their respective agents just waiting for their signatures.
Summer sessions of modern classics. Always a crowd pleaser, but not particularly Nicky's favourite works to perform. Without fail they'd want him to play Interstellar on the organ. Worse still, it meant a year of working with Joe when you added in all the rehearsal time they'd need, and negotiating setlists and promotion and all the minutiae that he usually tried to escape. Nicky was in this for the music, but somehow that ended up being the smallest part of his job.
'Well,' says Joe, smiling awkwardly, 'That's that then. I look forward to working with you.'
'And you, also,' Nicky says, short and to the point, already wondering how little he can get away with spending time with Joe.
'I hope we can be professional,' Joe continues, and it's like a firework in Nicky's brain, anger and wounded pride trailing noisily after the rocket of Joe's words.
'Really,' Nicky snaps, rearing back. 'You're saying that to me?'
Joe looks stricken, straight away, hands up and frantic.
'No—that's not—I didn't mean—fuck!'
Nicky flinches a little at the vehemence in Joe's voice as he bites off the curse and shuts his eyes, squeezing the bridge of his nose like he has a headache.
'I didn't mean it like that, I'm sorry,' Joe says, still with his eyes closed. 'I just don't know where to go from here without apologising, and you clearly don't want that, which is fine, but I don't want to be walking on eggshells with you for the next year.'
'I don't want your apology because it's not for me,' Nicky says, before his brain gets a chance to voice an opinion.
Joe opens his eyes just wide enough to squint at him.
'What?'
In for a penny.
'You don't want to apologise to me because you think it'll make up for the things you said to me,' Nicky says, looking Joe dead in the eyes. 'You want to apologise because you feel guilty, and you want that feeling to go away. I don't want your apology, and I still don't want your pity.'
Joe gapes at him, face slack with shock.
'That's—' he stutters after a second. 'That's not true, that's not—'
'Fair?' Nicky offers, hopping up to sit on the director's desk. If he has to have this conversation, he might as well be comfortable. 'I think it's plenty fair, myself. Am I wrong?'
'Yes!' cries Joe, throwing his hands up, before he seems to shrink into himself a little, his hands coming to rest in his hair. 'Or no. Not completely, maybe. I don't expect you to instantly forgive me, but how would you feel to be constantly remembered only for the worst thing you ever did? Something you did as a shitty, jealous, petty teenager, that you regretted as soon as you did it?'
There's a lot to unpack there. Nicky blinks at Joe, and can see the earnestness in his eyes, the genuine regret and apology.
But that moment crystallised something in Nicky; made some part of him hard and cold and impenetrable.
'Funny,' Nicky says. 'I just remember the first boy I ever thought I loved telling me he hated me, and that we had never even been friends. I didn't think about how difficult a moment that must have been for you.'
Joe closes his eyes again, his jaw so tense Nicky can see it tick even through his beard.
'Professional,' Nicky says, sliding back off the desk. 'I can be professional. We're not children anymore. I'm sure you can do the same.'
'We're not children anymore, no,' says Joe, very quietly. 'But I can still be sorry for what I did as a child, and I can still hope to make amends. I threw your friendship in your face once, and I've regretted it ever since. If a professional relationship is all you want, then I respect that, and I understand. But I hope we can try friendship again, one day.'
Nicky stares at him, fifteen years of resentment and hurt choking him. It must show on his face, because Joe looks painfully, terribly sad.
'I'd like to be your friend,' says Joe, so quietly Nicky almost struggles to hear him. 'But I know what I said to you, and how I treated you was wrong. I'm not seventeen anymore though. I'm not the same person you knew.'
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SWTOR ELORA🖊
its her, Swtor Elora, watch her as she goes
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Have some lovely throwback art by a lovely person!!!! (aka you)
Some vibes about her, her place in the Empire, and some of the hypocritical notions of being a Sith in the governmental system that benefits Sith!
I think she is one of my fave OCs in part because she is a way in which I can interface with a system that can be deeply insidious and evil, not only in the cartoonishly way that it is display, and the idea of what Good People can do in a Bad System.
So even while she may be able to change some of the most egregious aggression from the Empire; to what end is she truly effective when the very nature of the Empire is to destroy and diminish anything that is not it? But maybe lessening the outright atrocities committed on the front lines could be enough. We'll have to see.
However! I have really enjoyed her story as trying to be "different" given her awful childhood -- scar over her eye was from a knife wielded by her older brother, her exile to Dromund Kaas -- when the hypocrisy is still as blatant as it is intrinsic; she will always be Sith thus always above others. But, I am very satisfied that she has put in the blood, sweat, and tears in educating herself to push back the prejudices. Maybe that's my bias in thinking time, effort, and education, can overcome a lot of one's own ego and prejudices, but at least in her case being thrown into Nar Shaddaa at such formative years had changed her outlook irrevocably. And given her a fun edge and creativity to how she approaches a lot of her life anymore.
But I've enjoyed grappling with the destruction of her home planet a lot. The outrage, the anger, the incomprehension as to how it wasn't given a kind of mourning it deserved, how the Council allowed it all to happen. In an instant, thousands of years of history and culture was destroyed, and once more the Empire's worse enemy was the Empire itself. Her home was destroyed by the Empire yet she's expected to continue on and lead it? It's a wild conflict that keeps her up at night when Cosmia doesn't. And when Dromund Kaas was her prison, her exile, what true home is there in the Empire anymore? :) Is it really one more enemy to manage? A place she lives that she needs to strive to defeat or control?
Speaking of Ziost! Besides her eye, her only real scars are lightning scars over her hands. I imagine she truly pushed the powers of the Force to keep her alive and fighting on Ziost during those last days, to the absolute limit. The scars come from the amount of control it took to not kill people with the rage of her lightning, to the point where she probably has internal cybernetics in them that had to be operated on immediately after the devastation or else she would have lost her hands entirely. Ask her how pruny you get in a Not-Bacta tank.
And for as fun as the whole It's Just Casual, Don't Catch Feelings, trope is for her and Karo (your oc!!!! @damarlegacy ), I think it's so rewarding that they are where they are now because they put in so much time and effort into their relationship, even when they weren't in a relationship. Unapologetically themselves, yet willing to apologize when it came to the friendship and later partnership they had. It's deeply romantic, yes, but also so satisfying that they went into this with clear eyes and purposefully chose each other to love when they realized it was love. Like how powerful is that? lmao
Also parkour and gymnastic shit is fun
so are two sabers
she's a junglegym for her baby girl and pregnancy with a powerful force sensitive baby was WILD and dreads the prejudice lil cosima will face because she will not let mimi's mirialan heritage be hidden
she's considering another baby though
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