#Digimon theory

[ahfucknuggets567]

Hey Kid, you want a Digimon Frontier theory?

You know how different Digimon Frontier was with its evolution. Unified/Hyper Spirit evolution being of them. Consisting of ten spirits or five sets of spirits combining together into one body known as a unified/hyper spirit. The two unified/hyper spirits: EmperorGreymon/KaiserGreymon and MagnaGarurumon are clearly only made for a single set of spirits, fire and light. That means that there are eight other combinations resulting from the eight other sets of spirits.

Now the question is how do you figure out what combinations are used for a spirit’s unified/hyper form and what design qualities are made to be a part of the spirit? This leads me to my theory known as Unified Partners Theory. The theory states that each element has another one that they partner up with during their unified/hyper spirit evolution. This is a shoddy explanation but it's the best I’ve come up with. Looking at how unified/hyper spirits are formed, Takuya and Kouji use half of the spirits in order to achieve the evolution. That is noteworthy and I know what the simplest answer is. It's Digimon Frontier, the show with the most protag and lancer favoritism and they didn't want the others to factor anymore in the fights with their beloved Bois. But in lore is what is truly interesting. What is needed for the two hyper spirits is odd, at first. Ice is used for Fire, and Darkness is for Light. Of course, the two wielders for each pair are like brothers. But there’s also Earth in Fire and Water in Iight. Earth, I get. But water in the light unified evolution?? There's also the fact that Junpei and Kouji barely interact with one another before the whole unified/hyper spirits evolution thingy. So that leads to folks smarter than I am to the idea that the hyper spirit consists of two sets of spirits that keep it in check and two other sets that do boost the spirit. That makes sense as a hyper spirit with four sets of boosters sounds rather hard to make and would be probably better a bit uncontrollable.In the show, the last evolution is the fusion of all twenty spirits, Susanoomon. A digimon that doesn't really resemble any other spirits but light and fire. More specifically a fusion of their hyper forms. Meta wise, they wanted Omnimon/Omegamon 2.0. But also why??? It's the result of twenty spirits coming together and should honestly reflect the other eight more. It's like there other versions of Susanoomon or Susanoomon-adjacent mega fusions that correlate with the other spirits which obviously implies pairing the spirits up. Now here's the kicker and a tid bit that I have seen nobody discuss at all… and that's the theming of the two unified spirits cuz baby, they do have it!

Starting with EmperorGreymon. EmperorGreymon is named after Grey which in some contexts means old and Emperor which is the title of a male ruler over an empire. Kaiser from the sub is a German/Austrian/Holy empire emperor. This naming convention is resimcisnt of the olden times of history. EmperorGreymon resembles a knight or paladin from history and even harkens folklore with its Reference book talking about Gaia and the nine dragons inside of its armor and itself being the ninth dragon. This works well for the dragonic line of fire and references how fire was used all the way back in the ancient times to light our world.

Now for MagnaGarurumon. You might get an idea on what I am saying but I would still explain it. MagnaGarurumon is very toy-like but also very sleek. It has cannons and guns and has an airplane as a chest piece. MagnaGarurumon reminds me of ScFi fantasy androids. There's also the fact light is more modern like light bulbs and the speed of light being a staple of science.

All this evidence makes the two digimon interconnected with their theming and lore. Which in a way makes them partners as they are a pair. That’s where I got the name. But what about the others? Well, they obviously don't have canon unified spirits. So no more evidence. But we can apply it to the others! The second part of this theory document is to apply it to the other eight elements and figure out which pair is the most fitting for each element. Here my friends are the requirements:

Have some thematic ideas and coscension between the two pairs. i.e: similar elements, similar design choices, good thematic ideas between the pair.

Do I like the idea of them being unified Partners? Based purely off vibes and dynamics.

Can you actually make the other four sets of spirits work with the partnership? As in I can make the leftover spirits work for both base spirits be in line with the rules set up with Unified/Hyper Spirit Evolutions.(This will barely be a factor because I am not thinking that hard.)

Likeliness? Will the digimon designers and writers actually think this is a viable idea at all?

And users! Do this pair have a good connection when it comes to the users or just the spirits itself?

Now we have 24 pairs to review and rate. I will all rank them on scale from one to five. One is I don't like this at all/how is this possible? and five is amazing! I want this badly!/Very possibly canon!

Tomoki/Chakmon + Izumi/Kazemon: ⅗. Not bad, they meant to be the “weakest” of the group as Digimon Frontier states them as. But there's a bit of elemental coscension with ice and wind making snowstorms and blizzards. When things are cold, they move slower, and wind is heavily associated with speed. A slow and steady vs fast and furious type of deal. Likely a possibility as if you wanted to keep the kids spirits together. But there's better options.

Tomoki/Chakmon + Junpei/Blitzmon: ⅗. Just like Ice and Wind, not a bad choice. Junpei and Tomoki have a nice dynamic of being brother-like, especially in episode 2. The elements don't have good element mixing or similarities. It could do some themes with speed and defense. Lightning is very fast and the ice spirit line is noticeably bulky. But so is the thunder line, so ehh?

Tomoki/Chakmon + Kouichi/Loweemon: 5/5. Two brothers or brother figures to the official pair. Their elements are the opposite of the official pair. There's also the good thematic ideas of physical and spiritual elements. Along with both elements being associated with death. The chill of ghosts and the cold touch of death. Darkness is obvious. This is a very good pair!

Tomoki/Chakmon + Grumblemon: ⅕. Uh… They're both small. A more modern element paired with a classical element… That's all I got.

Tomoki/Chakmon + Ranamon: ⅖. We have more similarities in the elements. A lot you can do with solid ice and liquid water. The same reason from Izumi and Tomoki about the whole girl and younger kids thing. And also, Ranamon is weirdly child-like in her design. So uh… there's that. Not much here though especially in the likeliness compartment but small? I guess?

Tomoki/Chakmon + Arbormon: ⅘. We got a lot here. Despite the fan consensus of them being like rivals, the two didn't interact a lot. It was really only when Tomoki got his beast spirit and the fight at Petaldramon’s mansion. But it's still a good pair. We have some connections with the seasons(Winter and Summer/Spring) in the elements and the idea of life and death. We got some of the less humanoid spirits and very less armored beast spirits. This is a very good pair I dare say.

Tomoki/Chakmon + Mercuremon: ⅕. The fuck do you want me to say. There's nothing between them.

Izumi/Kazemon + Junpei/Blitzmon: 5/5. Oh boy, this is one of my favorites. We have similar elements and a great relationship between the users. Kazemon and Blitzmon reflect each other in the insect theme. Zephyrmon being very speedy and light, and Bolgmon being, well, a tank. The likeliness is high in this, these two have been paired up like it's nothing! Plus I am a Junzumi shipper.

Izumi/Kazemon + Kouichi/Loweemon: ⅖. Better speed and defense theme. Wind generates darkness as the weather gets worse, the skies get darker. Izumi did help Kouichi a bit with the whole twin brother situation. Otherwise not a lot here.

Izumi/Kazemon + Grumblemon: ⅗. Another opposite attract!(Not romantically! Not romantically!). Earth is land and Wind is sky, very obvious. You can do a lot of themes with that. Heaven and Earth, Love and Hate(By general personalities), and other stuff. We got a fairy and a troll as a pair! Likelihood is… eehhh. Which unfortunately knocks it down a point.

Izumi/Kazemon + Ranamon: 5/5. These two had a fierce(and unfortunate) rivalry in the anime. Their elements are like opposites to each other. They're the only girls in the entirety of the spirits. Plus who doesn't want girl power? Who doesn't want to see Ranamon and Izumi become friends and finally kick some ass! Plus the Digimon company who like to pair the two girls and have two new waifus in their belt(ugh).

Izumi/Kazemon + Arbormon: ⅖. I like the idea of them interacting but we don't see them actually interact one on one. We got some opposition between the sturdy Arbormon and a very armorless Kazemon. So there's that. Otherwise not a lot here.

Izumi/Kazemon + Mercuremon: ⅕. I got nothing here, man. Mercuremon has literally almost nothing with most of the kids.

Junpei/Blitzmon + Kouichi/Loweemon: ⅖. Another popular combination, mostly to also pair with Fire/Light, and Ice/Wind. We can't have a light and dark pair as Kouji is already paired with Takuya. So we have this pair. And you can tell that this is the lesser version of a light/dark pair. We can go with a very Egyptian theme as Loweemon, obviously, and Blitzmon, you can make him a scarab. Junpei and Kouichi, as I know of, have little to no interaction. This is a pair up I don't like.

Junpei/Blitzmon + Grumblemon: ⅗. Junpei and Grumblemon had a rivalry between each other. Mostly on Junpei’s part with him wanting to defeat Grumblemon for Izumi. Direct differences between the two like the big, softie Junpei vs short, gremliny Grumblemon. A traditional and more stable element of earth and thunder's flashy, once there and now gone modern element. There's good dynamics here but I'm not the biggest fan of this.

Junpei/Blitzmon + Ranamon: ⅖. Worse Wind/Thunder pairing here! I mean, we got real good destructive power here with thunderstorms and tsunamis. I did read a fanfic with these two interacting, it's amazing and I do like their dynamic in that. But the likelihood here is very slim and I have better ideas for them.

Junpei/Blitzmon + Arbormon: ⅖. We got two very robot-like human spirits. Very bulky and big beast spirits. There's an interesting dynamic here but it barely scratches the ⅖.

Junpei/Blitzmon + Mercuremon: ⅖. Same reason as above plus a very machinery theme between the two and you got a modern element plus a classical element! Still ⅖.

Kouichi/Loweemon + Grumblemon: ⅖. Something, something, caverns and caves associated with darkness. There's an odd fossil and undead idea here as darkness in Digimon is associated with the undead and the earth is what fossils are made of. But by yggdrasil, there’s no good dynamic here and the idea of it happening is slim to none.

Kouichi/Loweemon + Ranamon: ⅘. Like Ice/Darkness, there's an opposition to the Fire/Light. Water is much better suited as fire’s opposite but loses the brother dynamic Ice and Fire wielders have. Little less likely than Water and Ice because I feel like Digimon would want the kids to be Unified Partners together. Expect for more Waifus!!!

Kouichi/Loweemon + Arbormon: ⅕. Duskmon killing Arbormon kills any idea of this NGL.. Getting betrayed by your coworkers ruins your viewpoint of that person/mon unlike getting killed by someone because you deserve it and are evil. But this is Arbormon we're talking about. He’ll probably forgive Kouichi because of brainwashing. That's an amazing dynamic. There's nothing else here though

Kouichi/Loweemon + Mercuremon: ⅘. A very, very popular pair. These two reflect the leader and lancer dynamic with Takuya and Kouji. This pair fought against their respective counterparts. These two are seemingly the strongest spirits we have in the group. Kouichi even used the spirits of steel in a D-Tector toy! This pair is going to be the closest thing we can get to a warrior and magician pair we have. So we all have this evidence, so why only ⅘? I don't like the idea of this pairing to be honest. The dynamic here isn't all that interesting and as I said before, I prefer the kids to be with each other. Plus I have better ideas for a Mercuremon.

Grumblemon + Ranamon: ⅗. I like to call Grumblemon, Ranamon, and Kazemon the regional trio. Grumblemon is the land and mountains and Ranamon is the ocean and the water we drink. More opposites! Woohee! They have little screen time together but the fun dynamic is there. Similar human and beast spirits. But this is my least favorite pair of only the “evil” legendary warriors.

Grumblemon + Arbormon: ⅘. We got similar elements, opposite personalities and body types. These two dynamics are fun and great. They got a lot of themes applied with the elements of earth and wood. A very high possibility. It's also getting this high because God damn it, it's cute.

Grumblemon + Mercuremon: 5/5. I can and will explain why this one has a fucking 5/5 rating. First of all, we have similar elements like Grumblemon and Arbormon. Yet despite that, the way they use their elements is vastly different. Grumblemon is very physical with him only using physical attacks like the ground and his hammer. Gigasmon only really has only one “special” attack with Quagmire Twister/Hurricane Bomber. Mercuremon is, however, being magical and ✨special✨. Mercuremon is based off a magic mirror and uses mirrors to reflect attacks, mostly ones of the magic kind. Beast Spirit of Steel is literally a motherfucking Sephiroth. Associated with God’s ten forces to create the world we line in Jewish mythology. All these associates are because of the steel spirit having an alchemy theme behind it like how metals are prevalent in alchemy. Kinda like how Grumblemon uses potions and earth is also used in alchemy. Also due to Sephirothmon being based after Jewish’s God will and creation and Mercuremon taking Seraphimon’s data to become ShadowSeraphimon, Mercuremon also has an angel association. Which isn't much to say if it weren’t for the fact that Grumblemon kinda also has a devil association. It's a stretch but I do want to talk about it. Grumblemon in the Japanese sub is an oni type. Oni in Japanese folklore are considered trolls, orges, orcs, and Demons! Plus AncientVolcamon is demon-like with the horns. As this to say we got a really good theme here and we have MagnaGarurumon, so Demon Earth Unified Spirit and Angel Steel Unified Spirit doesn't seem too far fetched.

Ranamon + Arbormon: ⅘. These two are a pair that shouldn't work but it does! Arbormon and Ranamon are pure opposites! Ranamon is feminine, squishy as in less defensive, uses more special attacks, her element is very obviously liquidity, and her personality is explosive and more moody. Arbormon on the other hand, is masculine, very armored and even in Petaldramon, it takes all five beast spirits to take him down, a physical attacker, a solid element, and he’s more calm and put together so to speak. What I am trying to say here is that there's an odd Yin and Yang to them. Which is a very interesting theme to have and explore. Nice ⅘!

Ranamon + Mercuremon: ⅘. These two out of everyone in “evil” legendary warriors have the strongest official dynamic. You could say some of the same reasons above in Water/Wood can be applied here.(not the masculine and feminine at all, have you seen Mercuremon?). This pair is solely based on their dynamic and possibility. I do like this pair however.

Arbormon + Mercuremon: ⅘. We have relatively the same appearances. More robot-like in their human forms, then their beast forms are more organic you could say. Mercuremon is the brains, Arbormon is the brawn. Nature vs Machine. It all works here. Plus if Karn’s idea of Teppei having the spirits of steel and Katsuharu having the spirits of wood, then yeah, have the bullies be unified Partners. Plus you can have a knight and his noble steed! That's great.

Conclusion: We have highs and lows in this list which is good for when you're trying to figure out what is the most likely pairs to happen. Still, the top choices I decided are still numerous. So here's all the top choices for the kids.

Izumi/Kazemon: Junpei/Blitzmon and Ranamon.

Tomoki/Chakmon: Kouichi/Loweemon and Arbormon.

Junpei/Blitzmon: Izumi/Kazemon and Grumblemon.

Kouichi/Loweemon: Tomoki/Chakmon, Mercuremon, and Ranamon.

Grumblemon: Arbormon and Mercuremon.

Ranamon: Kouichi/Loweemon, Mercuremon, and Arbormon.

Arbormon: Grumblemon, Tomoki/Chakmon, and Mercuremon.

Mercuremon: Grumblemon, Arbormon, Ranamon, and Kouichi/Loweemon.

All of these choices are great and I could see happening. This is great for artists and people to have different ideas and explore them. But we as a community also want a hard answer. So what's my cold, hard answer? I got two. One based on what I think the Digimon company would do and what I want to do.

Digimon would probably want to do Izumi and Ranamon obviously. Kouichi and Mercuremon is a no-brainer to rival Fire and Light. From there, Tomoki and Arbormon are way too good a pair to not give up on and Junpei and Grumblemon is all that is left.

I would do either Kouichi with Tomoki or Ranamon to rival his brother because that's all he has. Izumi and Junpei are the only excellent pair for Junpei and the constant pairing will continue. Arbormon can also go with Tomoki and Ranamon whichever feels the best. Lastly, we have Mercuremon and Grumblemon because holy hell, I made the longest paragraph here for them. I will confidently land on Ice/Darkness and Water/Wood.

That's it! Anyone can make comments or suggestions on any pairs I may have overlooked. You can even draw for any of the paired unified spirits ideas. This was fun

[artistic-moth-man]

Ok i made this really elaborate post but i think all the digimon fans kinda already know about/agree with this theory

Kari's chronically ill. Im just gonna say it

[friendrat]

Theory: I think Myotismon abused Gatomon when she was Salamon with the intention for her to become a black gatomon, and eventually, a Ladydevimon. Salamon is the common link in both of those digivolution chains, and we know that he did NOT want her to become an Angiwoman. Obviously, he didn't know she was Kari's Digimon until the last minute, but he may have known about the prophesy and how dangerous angels were to his plan. He also hated the hope in her eyes and wanted to destroy it, and her going down the virus path would have been physical evidence that he was succeeding in breaking that hope. Ultimately, he failed to break her, and the abuse slowed down, and she was given a position of authority in his army. I think this is because he knew she would fear him too much to betray him, and also that continued abuse might eventually make her Digivolve again, which he wanted to prevent at that point.

[seventeenlovesthree]

So... I completely overheard that Iori said he was a Japanese high schooler. Which really would mean this takes place around 2008-2010, so it'd be prior to Kizuna's events, making Taichi and Yamato 20-22 in Beyond. Which would explain why the Digivices and partnerships still exist, regardless of the split timeline theory.

... But then we get Rui (whom Takeru should only meet in 2012, so there COULD be a timeskip WITHIN the PV) and there also is a "blink and you'll miss it" shot of someone who could be Maki Himekawa... Implying that they actually managed to bring her back.

My brain hurts.

Edit:

Who would have thought that Iori's age would throw me for a complete loop here.

So let's break this down. He's in his second year in high school in 2010 - let's ignore the hair inconsistencies for now.

In Beyond, he says, he is "a Japanese high schooler". Japanese high school has three years, he's 17 in Kizuna... So the range for Beyond shall be: between 2009 and 2011 then (and not 2008 like I initially thought).

If Beyond takes place before Kizuna (minus the potential time skip when Takeru and Shuu meet Rui, minus the hair inconsistencies), it'd be around 2009-10ish, putting the characters' ages here:

Taichi, Yamato, Sora: 21/22

Koushirou, Mimi: 20/21

Jyou: 22/23

Hikari, Takeru, Daisuke, Ken: 18/19

Miyako: 19/20

Iori: 16/17

Edit 2.0: I'm gonna give up, maybe this is really just a split timeline and I am overthinking it all.

[bagerfluff]

Hello, I would like to reiterate the question on this post and give my thoughts on it now that it's been a while since Beyond came out.

It's not the fact that Takeru is in the Dark Ocean that weirds me out and confuses me, it's the fact that he's so calm.

Like I said, I headcanon that since Takeru actively went looking for Hikari and willingly entered the Dark Ocean that he got dragged into the Dark Ocean's shenanigans.

Hikari and Ken have a connection with it and Takeru got dragged in since he actively went looking for the Dark Ocean while trying to find Hikari.

I don't think Miyako has the same problem, since she was more pulling into the Dark Ocean since she was with Ken and Hikari, she was more collateral damage.

So it's not the fact that Takeru's in the Dark Ocean, and think it creates a fun little idea that Takeru gets pulled into darkness just like Hikari and Ken.

It's the fact that he's so calm!

That is not the fact someone should make when in a land of darkness!

Especially since the Dark Ocean has tried to use the darkness to hurt the people he's cared about and to just hurt people in general.

I just want to remind people that Takeru doesn't hate the powers of darkness itself, he just doesn't like it when people or digimon use the darkness to hurt the others.

He says in 02 that light cannot exist without the darkness.

And if you've even seen the jp version of the episode where Hikari first goes to the Dark Ocean then you'd know that what they want to do to her is definitely evil.

So why is he so calm!

It kinda freaks me out. Takeru gets angry at the powers of darkness, and you don't get more dark then the world of darkness. And this place has hurt people he cares about.

From what we know of Takeru and his personality he should be angry, maybe even scared a little.

But he's not.

He's calm.

And it's freaking me out.

I don't know, after Beyond came out I wrote a short fic about this scene right here, will probably post it tomorrow so tell me if you'd like to read a fic that try's to explain why Takeru is so calm here.

I like other peoples theories, like how the Dark Ocean is a metaphor for depression and how Takeru is here because he starts to pull himself away from the others because of his writing.

There was also a statement from Kakudou, the director of Beyond who was also the director for Digimon Adventure 1999 and Digimon Adventure 02 that said that he just wanted to continue to explore how he thought the kids would be like when they were older that he didn't get to explore in other pieces of Digimon Adventure media.

I like all of those, and I'm sure that there are other theories that I will love and Kakudou can do what he wants and I love Beyond too, but no matter what I think I'm still going to be a little weirded out by this.

I love Takeru, he's always been my favorite character in Digimon.

I love seeing him get screen time and Takeru has always been one of the only characters where we see how the Digital World affected him and we get to see how his trauma manifests.

From him attacking Ken in 02, too him breaking down when Patamon gets infected in Tri, too him being scared of breaking the bonds between digimon in The Beginning.

It would be amazing to have the Dark Ocean come back and to include Takeru in a storyline with it, but this, this just feels a little dissapoiting.

There was so many things they could have done for Beyond, and what we got kinda feels like a let down. I love it, and will gladly watch it over and over again.

But I feel like a movie or another anime would have been even better for seeing how the kids we all grew up with are like now and how they have changed because of their adventures.

People really want more, but that wont happen for a while because of Digimon Beatbreak, and it might not happen at all. If it here I think a nice two hour long movie would be great.

Anyway, to wrap this up, I love Takeru, and would love and Dark Ocean plot for him and Hikari and Ken, but no matter what without context this scene will always weird me out.

[lutymi]

I've forgotten about this. What You Say is really acurate to what I think but still kind of diferente.

This little dude's Digimon reference book:

Flamon

A Digimon that was transformed into a half-beast, half-man form when Agnimon lost its power. It is missing the "Combat Instinct" that Digimon naturally possess, and moreover, it has lost power. However, it is a being that has inherited a Spirit of the legendary Ten Warriors who possess ultimate strength, so although it has lost power, ordinary Adult-class Digimon aren't a match for it. If anything, it has kindness inappropriate for a Digimon and is similar to a Child Digimon, counterbalancing its mischievous part.

Flamon is the actual heir of the fire spirit. Not some child.

The same with strabimon, the entrace says they are the heir of the light spirit. Then, again, if those Digimon are canonically the heirs. Why children?

Because they may not be children.

Digimon had disguised as humans before. But Even when they look like people they looks still remains to their original form.

I dare anyone to tell me this are not the same picture. Flamon literally looks like takuya's Digimon zona.

And it doesnt end here.

This Brat can fight pair du pair to actual Digimon. Zoe also won an food eating contest, she ate more than any digimon thereThey Even survive to lucemon's dead or Alive.

This kids are stronger that any other on digimon (except marcus but whatever).

My final conclusion is that Takuya and their Friends are Digimon in disguise with amnesia. Thats would explain why they feel like 'i have to do this' Even if they doesnt remember. Explain why when koichi died a part of went back to digital world.

And a Lot of weird thing that happens durango the show.

The real question is why send Digimons in disguise to the human world?

Digimon Frontier theory: are the children digimon? part 1

I have a few reason to belive Takuya and his friend were digimon. I've been drawing a lot about frontier lately and this idea got stuck in my head. Why if the children were always digimon in disguise with amnesia? I know it sounds crazy but let me explain:

First chapter: ophanimon called dozens of human children to shibuya station. she wants them to take a train. Depise she accidentaly called the hole town (i guess it was an accident, oopsie) she just need six kids. how did she know who were the heirs of the legendary warriors? who knows, they never tell. WHY WERE THEY HUMAN CHILDREN? because demografic staff(? bandai?

back into the chapter, takuya gets the call and gets absurdly insane to take that fucking train. doesn't know why, there is a part of the episode when he almost got hit by a truck and doesn't even care. WE, AS VIEWERS, DONT KNOW HOW HE MADE IT IN TIME, BOY YOU WERE IN THE FUCKING SUBURB HOW DID YOU RUN TO THE STATION THAT FAST??? (we talk about this later) but the real question is, why did takuya feel like that? is because he is the protagonist or plot stuff or is it something else? as long as the series goes takuya shows a strange six sense, his intuition about how his powers or plot things work is really convinient and i know this is for plot propose but the other kids dont show this hability as much as him. No even kouji who is to Frontier what sasuke is to Naruto Shippuden.

speaking of kouji, ophanimon tells him about misteries arround him and the real question here is: is ophanimon, the holy angel protector of the digital world, speaking about the insane parent trap that kouji and kouichi have been involved? I mean, she spyes children or what? that is what makes me think, what if she wasn't talking about kouichi? what if she was talking about something else? what we sure do know is that kouji actually has reasons to doubt, about his life, about his indentity, maybe about anything in particular. i mean, he was doing something important before the call, and doesn't even exitate to left behind all those stuff to follow the call of a strange lady who promise him answers for a question he doesnt Even know. Kouji Knows something is on.

[dogdeodrantwithsauce]

James theory

Forget the theory of james being Charles's second body. I am more down on the theory of james having another body, and his current body isn't his orginal body. Especially the one we see now, is his second body.

Like he has his original body somewhere hidden. But unlike daniel who has improved his original body, james haven't done that (or maybe he had).

Also he kinda looks similar to Daniel's second body. They both are perfect at everything. Maybe james doesn't copy moves, but he does everything perfectly like daniel (he has a bigger brain than daniel tho) and what if james was also a victim of bullying like daniel in his school?

I just refuse to believe that a man can be so perfect

[littlekhaos626]

Theory:

The doll of Lilo (from Lilo and Stitch) is a Digimon.

Lilo: [pulls a strange looking rag doll from her backpack] This is Scrump.

[other girls gasp in horror]

Lilo: I made her. But her head is too big, so I pretended that a bug laid eggs in her ear, and she's upset because she has only a few more days to...

[notices that all the other girls are gone; She throws Scrump on the floor and walks away, then returns for Scrump].

Now, the meaning of Scrump: steal (fruit) from an orchard or garden. Example:

"I remember Gordon scrumping apples from the orchard next door"

Now, I present you Palmon:

Palmon is a Vegetation Digimon. It has a tropical flower blooming on its head.

To me, it's clear that Lilo tried to make Scrumps the most similar possible to Palmon. To be made by a kid with no resources, it is green, has the same form, same big head, big eyes, and big smile with little tusks. And of course, the ribbon in his head with the yellow ¿branch? Are obviously imitating the pink flower with yellow pistils.

Also, Scrump means "steal from a garden," which is so appropriate to a doll of this Digimon, since it is a Vegetal type one, and even they can use them legs as roots burying them to absorb nutrients from the ground.

#scrump

[millipedish]

Since I saw the first moment of an ENA cartoon I just assumed this all took place in an old computer.

What if...

It's a computer from 1995 that's been left on for all this time. It's not connected to the internet, it has a constant power supply and they've deactivated any kind of sleep mode. This machine has been carrying out its processes for years while slowly deteriorating from its own power. But in the meantime the corrupted data has spawned lifeforms, which have taken forms inspired by the clipart folder and various jpegs of classic art. Also they experience time digitally, so it's been centuries for them. They have built civilizations and as more and more of the memory is destroyed their civilizations have crumbled. So they're living in a dying world but also they would have never been born if the world wasn't dying.

You see holes in the world where code is exposed, a character slips into speaking binary, and even ENA herself glitches due to her emotions. The breakdown of the world may even explain the incorrect translations. There's also an area called the Dead God Graveyard which I can't help but think has to do with this world's past. I believe that the 'dead gods' are actually applications that just cannot work anymore. But they still take up space and they still shaped this world.

[art-sprees-in-spare-time]

God I feel so bad TwT

I'm working on a frickin. animatic. for Time Stranger

Based on a scene that probably won't even be canon TwT

im so annoying but so excited to make it, but i also feel like im ditching Kingdom Hearts for it TwT

dw im not actually ditching KH, this will probably become a side project

[ahfucknuggets567]

Hanimon, one of the newest digimon released this month and it's adorable. I've noticed something about this bugger. So just listen to me as I disregard everything about digimon.

It looks like a Arbormon and Grumblemon love child.

Hear me out!

Grumblemon; creates things made of earth and extremely artistic. Hanimon is made out of clay and has a tuff of hair.

Arbormon; wooden android puppet based off kararuki puppets. Hanimon; puppet type digimon, looks plant-like and digivolves into another kararuki puppet.

A lot of the reference book entries do have connections like kokeshimon being a trickster but still kind to other and more helpless digimon. Karakurumon being the kararuki based digimon mentioned earlier. Kaguyamon is stated to watch over the digital world's eastern mountains and is based off the bamboo princess tale from Japan.

This is not intentional but God damn is it not a cute coincidence. Yes, Hanimon does digivolve into more metallic digimon with psychic powers and the final evolution breaks this (With the ability to summon portals to other digital world's). But this is Digimon, dawg... Stop worrying about perfect connections.

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The Interesting Bit of Worldbuilding in Digimon Tamers

An interesting thing about the worldbuilding in the Japanese version of Digimon Tamers that I always was wondering about was a certain kind of phrasing.

See, in most dub versions that I am aware of, the Digital World is usually refered to as "Digital World" or "Digiworld" - just like in the Japanese version ("Dejitaru Waarudo"). Meanwhile the world the main characters come from is usually referred to as "Real World" in the Dub. However the Japanese version usually refers to that world as "ningen no sekai" or "ningen no waarudo" (using the Japanese/English mix), meaning "world of humans". With this most of the worlds do not really distinguish between the levels of reality between the Digital World and the Human World.

Digimon Tamers however is the one season that several times in the show also refers to the Human World in the Japanese version as the "real world", using the Dub terminology for this.

Now, why is this so interesting?

Well, mostly because for the most part Digimon Tamers is one of those season where there is absolutely no doubt about the digital world being in fact digital and being made of code. So far that we know who programmed it. Sure, there might be some magic involved here that nobody can fully explain (see the Digignomes), but there is absolutely no doubt that this world is Digital. By a lot of the other seasons there is some implication that indeed, while somehow the internet is connected to the digital world, the world my be a very different dimension that just somehow is fed through the internet with information and formed through it. But it might not be fully existing within computers. (This is most clear in Adventure, 02, Frontier and Xros Wars.)

But this puts DIgimon Tamers in terms of worldbuilding in a strange corner. Because the show definitely is a lot harder on the Scifi Hardness Scale, than any other Digimon season. And with this it kinda comes into the trouble of: "How the hell are digital creatures running around in the digital world?"

And again, Digimon Tamers is very aware of this. While the explanation we are given is a bullshit explanation, we get a scifi-mumbo-jumbo explanation. Something about Digital Proteins, and Phases, and what not. This is the explanation we are given specifically by Hypnos.

More than that: The reason we are given for the Digimon and Tamers to be unable to merge until Dobermon gives them the "program" for it, is explicitly this: In the Digital World both Digimon and Tamer were program, so they could merge. In the human world they no longer are.

Buuuuuut... Then how does the Dobermon program make a difference?

Digimon Tamers is overflowing with evidence that the supposed "real world" is as much a simulation as the digital world is. In fact, given that Konaka is someone very savvy in terms of Scifi tropes, he might well have already had heard talks about the Simulation Hypothesis - despite the theory officially only being proposed in 2003 - about a year after Digimon Tamers ended airing. The theory was toyed around with a lot especially after the Matrix movie came out in 1999.

Another big part of this is the strange "thing" that shows up in episode 7 and then never gets referenced again. Which clearly is also some sort of basic AI, that somehow can create a physical sphere in the supposed "real world", despite clearly not being as complex as the Digimon in its behavior.

And yeah... This is one of those things in Digimon Tamers that has kept me thinking about it for years. Kinda sad we will never get a proper answer to this.

[seventeenlovesthree]

Headcanon/Theory: The Dark Spore/Dark Seed as "Malware" reaching through a weakened "Firewall" of negative emotions/mental health issues.

Thank you to @thewitch2077 for the interesting question and to @jamesthedigidestined for the fitting wording! Again, this is not a complete analysis of all of Ken's behaviour patterns, but basically my interpretation of how the "Digimon Kaiser persona" - as well as the personality changes of all the other kids affected by it - are explained.

I would actually say that this isn't a traditional Corruption arc - mental stability definitely plays a role, but only a triggering one.

The Dark Seed/Dark Spore implanted in Ken and the other children can be considered some kind of “malware”. It already contains a code, so to speak, which contains basic characteristics: Aside from enhancing their human abilities, such as increased intellect and physical strength, etc. (like some kind of "steroid"), it also has severe side effects on the emotional state, such as, but not limited to: A superiority complex, narcissism, lack of empathy, very low threshold for aggression and violence. So as we can see with Ken and his actual Crest of Kindness - these traits represent THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE OF his personality structure. However, because he was emotionally vulnerable due to his grief, his guilt, his trauma regarding Osamu, because he had desires and his "inner firewall" was weakened, the malware was able to access him super easily and change him according to its code. Exactly the same thing happened with the other children - they all wanted to be as great as Ken, they were dissatisfied and therefore susceptible. It's the "dark side" of the wish-fulfilment trope, so to speak.

Meaning: "Most likely to corrupt" would probably have been Yamato and Sora during their Dark Cave moments - or even Taichi in Tri, which was even speculated at the time when the first Kaiser images were leaked in the promo material. (And it may have been possible even earlier, especially if you consider the sibling angle in comparison to Ken, how Hikari's health and Taichi's own reckless behaviour had affected his mental stability and how he was the first one to trigger a Dark Evolution.)

"Least likely to corrupt" - at least towards the end of 02 - are characters like Daisuke and Mimi. But it always depends on the personal resources and the resilience of the respective characters.

I also found this interesting excerpt from the novel - because Gennai also had a kind of Dark Seed in him (which, once again, corresponds to Taichi's arc in Adventure - and to the idea that Daisuke's character structure enabled him to NOT get swayed by either wishes or fears respectively):

Long story short - I believe that everyone infected with the Dark Spore/Seed with the disposition of letting it take over (with or without consent) would have displayed the same behaviour as the Digimon Kaiser. No matter who would have been affected. The only variable here would be just how damaged their own "Firewall" (= mental health) would have been.

[theory-mon]

So the fact that pokemon fit into pokeballs and can be transferred digitally via a computer in the game, that means that pokemon are somewhat digital themselves right?

Digimon are completely digital we know that, but they can also exist in the real world too. Knowing that and knowing the premis of the show is for the evil digimon to corrupt the world, we can assume that one evil digimon finally won, or the digi destined were able to find a way to coexist and it took some path where they found a legendary digimon,or what ever it would be called, and made a wish that the world's become one that way there is no more fighting. Unfortunately humans are humans and disagree with each other a lot so people like team rocket, magma, blah blah, blah blah, exist in every game in some form. These people took the place of the evil digimon from the digi world, they are just humans but radical humans so to speak.

What I'm saying is that the pokemon world starred with the end of the digimon world. The oldest known pokemon might have been one of the last ever digimon.

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What crests I would give the 02 digidestined.

Now, I am doing this for many reasons. One, I like the 02 kids and think that they should all get crests like the other kids and even Ken did.

Two, a while ago I saw someone complaining about the crests as a concept and while everyone can have their own opinion they said that people should stop using crests when making oc's and in fanfics.

It's fine to have an opinion, but forcing other people to conform to what you think of perfect is an asshole move. Also, just want to say, if you don't agree with this that's fine.

Like I said, people can have their own opinions, this is just what crests I think the 02 kids would have, if you have another idea then feel free to share, I would love the hear it!

Anyway, lets get in with this, I also just realized that I'm doing this out of my love for 02 and spite, which kinda sums me up as a person.

Ken gets the Crest of Kindness, no shit, do I have to explain this.

Don't answer that, I'm going to anyway.

I really like the Crest of Kindness for Ken, and not just because it's the canon crest for him. I find the fact how Ken was so mean and evil yet has the Crest of Kindness.

Kinda like how Yamato has the Crest of Friendship but was a pretty shitty friend in the beginning of Adventure. Yamato had to grow into his crest, and now Ken has too.

I said before that Ken is not the Yamato of 02 but this might be the only time where I say that they kinda mirror each other. Both needing to grow into their crests.

It shows how strong Ken is as well, honestly if I was ignored by my parents and then manipulated and mind controlled I would become the Digimon Kaiser as well.

So, kindness, the perfect crest for Ken, kindness Ken, you have got to love alliteration.

Now, for Daisuke, I have decide to give him the Crest of Compassion.

I was thinking about giving him loyalty but I felt like loyalty was just too close to friendship and what is friendship if not being loyal to someone.

To be a friend is to be loyal, even if it means being rude and I just don't see Daisuke doing that, sure he is loyal, but one could say that he's also compassionate when it comes to his friends.

Daisuke is very caring went it comes to his friends, even when he butts heads with the others he still cares about them.

I've always thought that Daisuke's mix of courage and friendship manifests itself as the courage to do anything for his friends, but also for the world.

Not saying that Taichi and Yamato don't care, its just that a common point of Taichi's and Yamato's fights come from the fact Taichi cares to much about the world while Yamato cares to much about his friends.

So I've always thought that with Daisuke he would be able to balance the fact that they need to save the world but without putting his friends in danger.

Also, I find it no coincidence that Daisuke basically the same with Ken and Lui. Daisuke finds a little traumatized boy and immediately becomes their friend and will do anything for them.

Speaking of Ken, Daisuke is really kind to him because he's knows what the true Ken is like, the Digimental of Miracles told Daisuke and Daisuke believed it and fought for Ken to be his friend.

You could say that Daisuke was just being friendly, but if you say that you could also say that he was being compassionate. He shows great sympathy for Ken and Lui as well.

He's concerned about them and about his friends as well, I truly think people forget that Daisuke also gets the Digimental of Friendship along side the Digimental of Courage.

Like Daisuke is meant to be a mix of Yamato and Taichi and people boil him down to just being a copy of Taichi, which he is because he's a gogglehead.

Daisuke and Taichi both have the same character archetype, so they are going to be simpulr but their not the same person, they do act differently.

Daisuke is both Taichi and Yamato, he's a mix of both, he is going to act like both and he does. I would list the times were he acts like Yamato for a while but this isn't what this post is about.

So, Daisuke gets the Crest of Compassion, lets move on.

For Miyako I have decided to give her the Crest of Passion.

I think this fist perfectly for Miyako, especially when you take into fact her Digimentals of Love and Sincerity/Purity. Miyako is very passionate when it comes to almost everything.

This can bleed into her Digimentals. Miyako can be very passionate about those she loves and cares about, but she can also be passionate for being true to herself.

There is literally an entire subplot in an episode where Miyako is so passionate about catching the Digimon Kaiser that it causes Hawkmon to get hurt.

I really don't have much to say for this, watch 02, you'll think passion fits perfectly with Miyako as well. It just fits her so well.

With passion being needed to be able to show love in the right way and needing to be passionate in yourself to be who you truly are. It just fits Miyako so well.

I feel like people also forget that Miyako is really smart as well, people often mischaracterize the 02 kids. People kinda just ignore 02 is I'm honest.

Because they don't like it they ignore the chracters that were intraduced in it, which is kinda shitty because Daisuke, Ken, Miyako, and Iori are pretty good characters.

They would have been amazing characters if they were just written as well as they other kids were in Adventure 1999, anyway, Miyako, mischaracterization.

If there is a computer and Koushiro is not there Miyako is the one in front of it. Miyako might not have the Digimental of Knowledge and Iori might be the mix of Koushiro and Jou but Miyako is still smart.

She is in the computer club, she theorizes right next to Koushiro, she looks up to Koushiro, you see her doing coding in India in 02 The Beginning.

Miyako is smart, and people forget that, and passion fits because Miyako can be passionate about things that relate to being smart.

So, Miyako gets the Crest of Passion, now onto Iori.

Now, finally Iori, probably my favorite 02 Chosen Child, gets the Crest of Integrity.

I find this an almost perfect fit along side Miyako's crest. A big part of Iori's character in 02 is the fact that he wants to live up to his father, who was a police office who died on duty.

Iori had a problem with attacking real digimon, not knowing if killing something that his as human as he is, he doesn't know if the outcome of killing the digimon are worth saving people.

Iori has a very set of rules that he sticks too, he wants to honor his father and live up to him, and this leads Iori to be very stead forward. He his lawful good.

Iori wants to follow rules and do right by his father. Iori has a great level of integrity. He is honesty and has very high morals. Also, I can't give Iori the fucking crest of autism, boy is so autistic.

Like I said before Iori might be my favorite 02 character, though I do like Ken too. Anyway, Iori get's shafted by the fandom so much.

Along with Miyako he gest shafted, the only reason Ken and Daisuke aren't shafted is because people ship them together, but don't get me wrong, I love Daiken.

But I also love my 02 kids, and Iori and Miyako should get move love. I feel like people just get confused by Iori, and that might because he does act very autistic.

I don't blame people, I just want Iori and Miyako to get the love they deserve, it's not their fault that their season is not the best, they should still get love.

Anyway, Iori, Crest of Integrity.

That is all, the Crests I would give the 02 kids who didn't get them, I will make posts about what I think the digivolution lines would be for their partners since they don't have canon ones.

But I really like this, again, Digimon Adventure 02 is my favorite season, I don't care how shitty it is I love it and it's characters. So I was really happy to make this.

If you have any other idea's I would love to hear them!