#Edward V of England

[royal-confessions]

“I hope King Charles III will allow new research into murder of the York Princes. Like are there actually aditional burried bodies beside Edward IV or not? Are bodies found in 1674 in Tower them? And if so, how did they die? So many unanswered questions, but so many fans which would love it for King Charles to give us some answers.” - Submitted by Anonymous

[docpiplup]

The Bastard Kings and their families - Edward V of England @asoiafcanonjonsnow

This is series of posts are complementary to this historical parallels post from the JON SNOW FORTNIGHT EVENT, and it's purpouse to discover the lives of medieval bastard kings, and the following posts are meant to collect portraits of those kings and their close relatives.

In many cases it's difficult to find contemporary art of their period, so some of the portrayals are subsequent.

1) Edward V of England (1470 –1483), son of Edward IV of England and his wife Elizabeth Woodville

2) Edward IV of England (1442 – 1483), son of Richard of York and his wife Cecily Neville

3) Elizabeth Woodville (1437–1492), daughter of Richard Woodville and his wife Jacquetta of Luxemburg

4) Richard III of England (1452 - 1485), son of Richard of York and his wife Cecily Neville

5) Elizabeth of York ( 1466 – 1503), daughter of Edward IV of England and his wife Elizabeth Woodville

6) Henry VII of England (1457 – 1509), son of Edmund Tudor and his wife Margaret Beaufort

7) Catherine of York ( 1479 – 1527), daughter of Edward IV of England and his wife Elizabeth Woodville

8) Bridget of York ( 1480 –c. 1507), daughter of Edward IV of England and his wife Elizabeth Woodville

9) Cecily of York (1469 -1507), daughter of Edward IV of England and his wife Elizabeth Woodville

[captainsamta]

Something I had done years ago on A4 size paper. I think I skipped a few due to lack of space. Kings and Queens of England (after king Henry IV)

[gwydpolls]

Time Travel Question : Murder and Disappearance Edition I

Given that Judge Crater, Roanoke, and the Dyatlov Pass Incident are credibly solved, though not 100% provable, I'm leaving them out in favor of things ,ore mysterious. I almost left out Amelia Earhart, but the evidence there is sketchier.

Some people were a little confused. Edward V and Richard of Shrewsbury are the Princes in the Tower.

[blueberry-bubbles130]

We are back for another historical hypothetical folks!

And this time it is:

Think of it as a Midsomer Murders/Clue style thing.

I don’t have an answer for who the victim is. You can choose anyone you want, for the victim.

[behindthecrowns]

Photo of King George V and Queen Mary with their sons David (the future Edward VIII) and Albert (the future George VI), 1896 circa.

[justarandomgirly]

"Falling in love with you..."

[teatimeatwinterpalace]

The Duke and Duchess of Cornwall and York en route to Australia 1901.

‘We have only heard yesterday that our visit to Australia is to come off after all,’ wrote May on 8 February 1901.

The display of lachrymosity over the departure of George and May on their voyage on Ophir were exceptional even by royal standards. When the King proposed their health at a farewell dinner on 16 March he broke down altogether, and 'only suppressed sobs were heard'. Aunt Augusta remarked: 'I would not have believed he could have been so very low & upset'. George was so affected that he 'could hardly speak' in reply.

The next day Ophir steamed out of Portsmouth, passing the King and Queen as they waved from the royal yatch. After this poignant moment, wrote George, 'May & I came down to our cabin & had a good cry & tried to comfort each other'. Aunt Augusta paid Alix a visit soon afterwards, 'when she told me all about it, crying all the time.' As for May, she confessed that 'those dreadful farewells nearly killed me, & I was obliged to take to my bed & do nothing but rest’, staying there until Gibraltar. 'The pent up emotions of the last days had much upset me, particularly havin to keep one's feelings under control, so no wonder I collapsed.’

George V : Never a dull moment by Jane Ridley

[foreverinthepagesofhistory]

The Princes in the Tower (painting)

Prince Richard and King Edward V depicted in the Tower of London, 1483

Painting done by Sir John Everett Millais, circa 1879

[wonder-worker]

"Hannes Kleineke cites Dean and Canons of Windsor MS XI.B.6, rot. 2, for evidence of a deathbed codicil by Edward IV concerning a dispute between the knights and canons of Windsor"

remember when I said that we don't know what Edward IV's deathbed codicils were as they haven't survived? that there is no reason to automatically assume they were relevant to his son's minority? that it's entirely possible that they weren't very important at all considering how dismissively Croyland spoke of them ("some codicils thereto", with no emphasis or elaboration whatsoever)? I LOVE being proven right <3

[royal-confessions]

“too many people are obsessed with the tale of the "princes of the tower" and their plight not even realizing the entire idea of the infantilized princes in the tower who just disappeared is propaganda that's pro-Richard. They were a usurped king and his brother, not just two missing princelings.” - Submitted by Anonymous

[fideidefenswhore]

@bunniesandbeheadings I might misunderstand the text you linked. How could Mary call Edward a bastard? KoA was dead by then, and of course widowers can remarry. Calling Jane a legitimate Queen in no way would take away KoA’s status as Queen?

all of hviii's marriages after catherine of aragon were not recognised by the catholic church/pope. when he needed dispensations for these marriages, like for affinity (his marriage to jane was one of them), they were granted by the anglican church, whose authority the pope and other catholic monarchies of christendom did not recognise (the last real 'papal' henrician appointment, irony of ironies, was thomas cranmer's). there was also the matter of all marriages taking place when the realm was in schism, thus "all other women of henry concubines and not wives". prince edward was (legitimate) heir as reified by parliament; both retroactively from the succession act of 1536 and in name by the one of 1543.

foreign dignitaries of course, when they visited, would honour whoever henry's wife was as queen to maintain good relations and as matter of diplomacy (this wasn't, of course, done by the imperial until the last weeks of AB's time as queen, but otherwise, she was, even if 'frostily' by the french as in 1534). but they were often under instruction to treat this status as transient, as lauren mackay has summarized in her biography of chapuys, for example, charles v was rather mercenary in his attitude towards jane seymour, continually referring to her as henry's 'mistress' well into their marriage in his own instructions to chapuys:

"It appears Charles [V] was at times rather ruthless in regards to Jane, despite the fact that her being in power benefitted Mary. Charles referred to her in several dispatches as Henry's mistress rather than queen [...]" Inside the Tudor Court, Lauren Mackay

[karinacurras]

#reading

Reading for most of my time I spend at home 🏡. It has been great for me reading the book of #Alison Weir of Elizabeth of York the mother of King Henry Viii and his son Edward VI and others like Henry V and Mary Queen of Scots.

[blueberry-bubbles130]

Alright everyone here’s a very stupid question!

Also yes. I have personally read fanfiction about every single one of these figures listed in the poll.

[behindthecrowns]

Portrait of King Edward VII with his wife Queen Alexandra and three of their grandchildren