#J2 afternoon panel

[eisforeidolon]

Fan: People find slivers of connection to your characters in vastly different ways. What you make is art, and what is art if not a mirror? So really, interpretations are more of a reflection of the viewer than the creators. And the nature of cons is that you're asked to say this or that about your character and sometimes that becomes the definitive thing, and sometimes fans use that against other fans, to be like, 'Well, Jared said' or 'Jensen said'. So how do you feel about the way your characters and scenarios are interpreted differently by other people that might not be the way you all see it. I know Jensen you said something about 15x18, where you said we're artists and the artist doesn't stand next to the painting and tell the viewer what to think about the painting. So do you think it would be a good caveat to say, these are - kind of the death of the author kind of thing - so how do you feel about how people interpret your characters so differently, is my question.

Jensen: I kinda still stand by that comment of we are creating - this is an art form that we get to do and luckily we have found an audience, so we get to do it more. But it is, yeah, I wouldn't wanna - I think early on I maybe took a little ... a little umbrage with what people were reading into maybe certain characteristics or certain storylines or whatever and then I realized that nononono that's not up to me to tell them how to interpret what they want to interpret. Or it's not up to me to be disappointed if they're not inspired by what I thought was y'know an inspiring - whatever it might be. And I realized, and I think we've talked about this, that it's like yeah, you don't go into a gallery and have the artist standing next to you and going, "This is what you need to see, and if you don't see it then there's something wrong" - or whatever. Because it's like, no, it is up to interpretation. And if it inspires you or if it makes you feel anything then I think that's the whole point of art and that's the whole point of entertainment is to bring feeling into escapism and feelings and connectivity, all of that should be a part of it but we shouldn't have to tell you that, that's a gift that we give to you and you get to do what you want with that.

Jared: Yeah, we can't tell you that.

Jensen: No, everybody's different.

Jared: I think the artist shouldn't stand next to the paining in this proverbial situation, but I think also the critic shouldn't come in and go like, "This is what that episode was about, this is what the relationship was about, this is what it means to me so this is what needs to mean to all of you." [Jensen nods] It's all incorrect. So whether it's art or life, some people listen to Stairway to Heaven and think it's about uh, you know, this mortal coil that we live with and some people think it's about Lord of the Rings and then you're like okay you're both right. But you don't - you shouldn't tell somebody else that they should think something about that because it means to you what it means to you. And that's great. It means to us what it means to us and that's great. You know, there are objective - there's objective and subjective, right? So if you say, 'Hey, Jensen, Jared, I just love the way y'all deal with aliens and their space ships on Supernatural". I'm not gonna say, "Hey, we didn't have any aliens and spaceships". You know if that's what it means to you, that's great! I'm gonna say that's not - we weren't talking about aliens and spaceships. Um, and so I think that's the wonderful part and why we're here after almost twenty years to talk about - it means something similar to a lot of us, but it means something very unique to all of us as well. It means something different to me than it does to him, even though we have much of a shared experience and probably everybody in this room. And so I think that's the wonderful part of -

Jensen: My answer is there's no wrong answer.

Jared: Yeah, yeah, it means to you what it means to you.

[deangirlsstuff67]

It worked

Jensen Ackles x Reader

Warnings: none

Summary: You decide to surprise Jensen at a convention with the help of Jared and Cliff.

You told him you couldn't make it to the VanCon this year. Said you were busy with work and just couldn't afford to have the time off. Building your company from the ground up was hard but rewarding, though it took sacrifices.

Jensen understood like the amazing man he was. You couldn't be happier to call him your man.

He understood but you could still see the sadness in his beautiful green eyes. It had been 2 months since you'd last scene each other. Your business and his acting career made it hard to be together.

Phone calls and texting just weren't enough.

Thank to Jared and the rest of the cast of supernatural you hatched a plan. You were going to surprise your baby at the convention.

Of course, the staff were thrilled to help you. Got you in line for questions in the J2 afternoon panel.

You just had to stay out of sight before then.

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Hey baby I know you must be busy bur I just wanted to say I love you and I can't wait to see you soon.

The message made you smile. It was torture to stay in the convention center but not go see him.

Large hands grab your shoulder from behind. Turning you come face to face with Cliff, the boys Bodyguard.

"You ready sweetheart?" The older man smiling at you. Cliff and you have had a father daughter relationship from the very beginning. He always looked out for you and made sure to check in a couple times a week.

Returning his smile you nod your head before following him to the hall they were going to be occupying.

Cliff made sure to place you close to the front but out of sight. A couple of the fans in line recognized you and asked for a photo. You'll never get use to people wanting to know you just because of who your boyfriend was.

Robby came on stage with Rich and you laughed along with the crowd at their jokes and act. Before long your man waltzes on stage with Jared not far behind.

Man, he looked better than the last time you'd seen each other if that was even possible.

You watched on as the boys answered question after question. A couple times Jared had to answer them because Jensen was staring at a spot on the floor in front of him and not listening.

Three fans later and you were up next. Jared seen you and winked. Jensen was head down again.

Time for your grand entrance.

"Yeah, I was just wondering if Jensen knows I secretly recording him falling off my horse the last time he was home?"

You could have fallen over just by the look of shock and awe Jensen had when he whipped his head in your direction. No words could describe the love you saw shining in his eyes.

"Yeah Jensen. Do you know this? And y/n I'd like to see this footage." Jared laughed into his mic.

"Over my dead body that ever gets out." Jensen grumbled into his microphone before getting up and making his way to the end of the stage.

"You just going to stand there beautiful or are you going to come see me."

You go running into your man's awaiting arms. His cologne hits you like a brick wall and you feel at home again. You knew he was the one a month after you began dating but this just confirms it.

He takes you hand and leads you back to the seat he was occupying moments ago, "I hope ya'll don't mind if this pretty lady joins our panel."

The crowd goes nuts. Everyone showing their love for us. The smile beaming on your face couldn't be wider.

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Fan after fan ask the boys questions and shower them in love. You now know why Jensen loves coming to these. It's truly amazing to witness.

The next girl comes up to the microphone and asks her question, shockingly it's for me, "y/n I was wondering what your version of the story goes when it comes to how you and jensen started dating?"

On cue both the men on stage with me burst into laughter remembering the story. Jared hands me his microphone so I can answer.

"I'm not sure what he told you guys, but I know he left out the embarrassing parts. I was out with some friends in Austin on a mini vacation. We were dancing and drinking the night away. As you know I'm a country girl and horse lover so of course I was dressed in jeans, a flannel, and a ball cap. I was at the bar getting another round when I felt someone take my ball cap off my head and replace it with a tan cowboy hat. I whipped around to start yelling at this stupid guy when I came face to face with those gorgeous green eyes."

I look over at the 2 guys with me and they are smiling ear to ear listening to me talk.

"Well hot texan actor or not I wasn't going to put up with it. So I looked him dead in the eyes and told him if he didn't give back my hat I was going to lay him out. Luckily Donna taught him right and I was given back my hat. He told me to keep his, I wore it better. And he wasn't wrong haha. Anyways, the night goes on and we take a smoke break outside. Wouldn't you know this one..." you point back your boyfriend.

"Comes out with some buddies. He walks straight up to me and wraps his arms around my waist. Tells me I can lay him out anyway I desire to so long as I agree to have him take me on a date. Then the guy plants a kiss on my lips."

The crowd is crying from laughing so hard at this point. Who can blame them. Between Jensen and I, we weren't acting in any sense of rational that night.

"Stunned into silence. I agree to this date. When in Texas right. Plus, come on, it's Jensen freaking Ackles. But that's not the best part. These goofs hang with us the rest of the night. At some point Jensen got it in his mind him and I should have a drinking contest. Whoever drinks every shot of whiskey gets to kiss the other. Classy. I win and totally wipe the floor with him, collect my prize. This dumb dumb then proceeded to get on his knees in front of me and ask me to marry him with a ring he had on. No joke. This rest the night he referred to me as his wife."

Everyone is laughing at this point. My boyfriend is red in the face from embarrassment and joy as he remembers our first night together, "hey it worked didn't it."

"Yeah baby it did. Ever since I've been with this crazy wonderful man and I haven't regretted a minute of accepting the drunk proposal."

Just then Rob and Rich come back on stage woth tears in their eyes. Rob gets on his mic, "I've never heard the story told that way before."

Laughing I smile over at my dear friend, "that's because he barely remembers it after all the whiskey."

"Hey I remember. How could I forget. Jared showed me the video the next morning. I was so embarrassed, like great now she thinks I'm some creeper."

"Do you still have it?"

You hold up the hand that Jensen's ring sits proudly on your finger, "never taken it off. I didn't know fully, but I had an idea that he was going to be the one."

Jensen comes up beside you and kisses you softly. When you break apart he leans in close so only you can hear, "Oh baby girl, you're getting it good and hard tonight."

"Promise daddy."

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Part 2 coming...

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[brooksba]

J U M P

At the con, there is usually a choice one has to make photographing panels. For the J2 afternoon panel, the choice is whether to take a full stage picture or an individual jump. I tried the full stage here. The focus wasn’t all I wanted, but all three of the jumps are in the frame. I hope some will enjoy the full view and overall feel.

Jared Padalecki, Billy Moran, Jensen Ackles, Stephen Norton, and Rob Benedict

Minneapolis 2023

[canonicallysoulmates]

J2 Gold Panel ATLCon 2023

The boys are looking handsome wearing blue, and red 🥰

Jared brings up the Saturday night concert and asks the crowd if it was thumbs up or thumbs down, then he shares a quick story about how when he was in High School the movie, Gladiator, came out and his Latin teacher was pissed off because in the movie the Emperor gives a thumbs up to mean mercy and thumbs down to mean death but according to Jared's teacher realistically it would be the opposite thumbs up for death and thumbs down for mercy because it's supposed to be a representation of the sword.

Out of curiosity, I did look this up and while some kind of hand gesture involving the thumb was used scholars can't say definitively what this looked like because writers at the time didn't really describe it, and if they did we seemingly have yet to find their writings. So there's a lot of scholarly debate as to what these gestures actually looked like and meant in Roman times. The popular idea that thumbs down was involved and meant death is attributed to an 1872 painting by French artist, Jean-Léon Gérôme, called Pollice Verso which depicts a gladiator asking for his life while the crowd gives a thumbs down. And that's your history lesson for today now back to our scheduled programming! 😅

Getting back to the panel, Jared mentions that there were times that were never printed where Dean would do an exorcism and Jensen would fumble on purpose, and Jared knew he did this on purpose and he would tell Jensen so and Jensen's reply would basically be 'yeah, but if I do it good they'll make me do it more, if i make it look like I can't do it they'll have Sam do it'.

And Jensen mentions what he called "his senior moment" which is that during the Saturday night concert he was singing Simple Man, and it's been so long since he sang it that he forgot the lyrics to the last verse. Backstage, prior to singing, he had the feeling this might happen because, again, it's been so long since he's sang it so the lyrics were printed out for him and placed in front of him on the floor but the font was too small for him to see them so when Jason Mann went over to him, he took his glasses and he said it was like the Matrix 😂

Getting into the questions, not gonna lie the first one is a weird one, but does Jensen remember the color of the belt and shoes he was wearing with the blue suit in his Man About Town UK photoshoot? He answers that he doesn’t think he had a belt on which gives us fangirl!Jared saying "easy access"...sir!

Anyways, Jensen thinks they were brown dress shoes. He says that in those photoshoots you walk in and there’s racks of clothing and generally a stylist and an assistant who will ask what you like, and he'll tell them that he doesn't know that they're the professionals so they just had him try stuff on and he wasn't really paying attention also he had like 12 outfit changes that afternoon which makes Jared mutter 'Jesus'. Jensen says that yeah, it was a lot that photoshoots are not their (his and Jared's) favorite thing to do, they're a necessary thing for their industry but he did have fun on that shoot. x

Out of all the famous horror movie villains which would be the hardest for Sam and Dean to face? Jared says it’s a name he can’t say aka Voldemort. Jensen says the easiest would be Michael cause he just stands there, that he's never understood how he catches people like does he get on like a segway. Jared mentions any villain Walking Dead, I wouldn't be too confident in that answer cause Negan but also I don't watch that show but I do know they've made some changes to the Walkers and they can open doors and climb shit now.

Jensen is still trying to figure out who would be the toughest, Jared tells him he'd go Star Wars or Harry Potter but those aren't horror movies. Someone in the crowd yells out Jason to which Jared replies he already beat Jason. The crowd also yells out Freddy Krueger but Jensen thinks Sam and Dean would have figured it out although he would be a tough one. x

Can they share any aspects of strain that their characters experienced that might have thought them something? Jared says that in his 15 and a half years on SPN he learned a lot, that it's hard for him to parse out what he learned with the help of Sam and what he learned with the help of Dean, and what he learned from the help of whomever. What he learned is that he went from being 22 to being 38 but he certainly learned that we are more capable than we understand, than we believe. That he loves stories of ultra marathon runners, or the one he was listening to recently on a podcast of a guy who trecked across Antartica. That those stories really inspire him cause sometimes when you're stressed about something and you go 'there's no way I'll figure this out' there's a little reminder in him to keep at it, and that as much as it is a cliche every thousand mile journey began with a single step. He felt that with Sam, and with Dean, and with the show so no matter how tired he is, no matter how emotionally or physically beat down he feels he just tries to keep on going forward.

Jensen says he'll echo what Jared said just slightly different view point. That both Dean and Sam, as his grandfather would say, when the good Lord made them he forgot to put the quit in them. They don't quit. And he can 100% be sure that Jared also has that in him as well and he feels confident he has some of that as well but it's because now they represent these characters that don't have quit in them that that he thinks drives them in their personal lives a little more than it would have had they never played these characters. x

How are the kids? Jared answers that theirs are good, that they finish school in May. That Shep just did a PSIA which is similar to the mathletes Jared did and he got like 4th on the district so he's a chip of the block, that Odette is still queen of the world as far as she knows, and Tom is kicking ass he's in sports and is doing well, that they're all safe and sound. Jensen says his are currently gallivanting around Europe with D, that they were at a museum today and she told him it was a total disaster. JJ is great, the twins however are 6 and very opinionated and if they don't like something- it reminds him of a story Ryan Gosling told about his little girl about how he took her to the Louvre and his little girl gave the museum a thumbs down that Arrow is like that, and that makes Jared share a story about when they were all in the Austin airport together last week on their way to Rome. They were supposed to have a 2hr layover in Atlanta but it ended up being around 5hrs so Jensen and D were trying to keep the kids awake and trying to think positive that maybe this is good cause they'll be more tired - at which point Jensen says that it was nice to have Uncle Jared stuck there with them (💕) - and when they were set to board Jared is standing with his rolling carry on and his backpack and he feels something push his carry on forward, when he looks behind him there's Arrow with her roller bag giggling evilly at him cause she wanted to play so he started to play with her. And then, at another point, he and Jensen had a little race with Arrow and Zep sitting on their carry on's, so Jensen has one of those aluminum rolling carry on's, the ones that you can sit on, and he was walking Arrow up and down on it but Zeppelin started complaining that it wasn't fair even though Jensen had spend a couple minutes already walking him up and down on the carry on too so Jensen looked at Jared and started signaling towards the kid, and Jared was like 'come here buddy' and put him on his bag and they had a little race through the airport. This is so cuuuute!!! I need y'all to go watch this moment for yourself cause it's an adorable story but also so you can see what the look was that Jensen gave Jared when he was asking for help with Zeppelin because it's such a help me with our kids look. x

Jensen had mentioned Lonesome Dove a while back but who would be Woodrow and who would be Augustus? Jensen feels like it's obvious, he would be Augustus and Jared would be Woodrow. Also, Jared mentions that the key makeup artist on Walker won the Emmy for makeup on Lonesome Dove! x

If they got a 60 sec ad in the Super Bowl what would it be about? Jensen goes "ha! you know how much money I just lost buying a 60 second ad?" Jared says that it would just be them crying, and Jensen says it would be an ad about how to stupidly spend your money 😂

Jared jokes his would be herpexia 🤣

The next fan read an article a couple years about how people think, some think in full sentences like a running monologue while others think in pictures and concepts, how do the boys think? Jared says he is absolutely the former. That he's either thinking solving the problems of the world in his head, or meow mix jingle, which he does part of, Jensen asks him if he sees things in text to which Jared replies yes, that he's thinking of the description of the visual more than the visual. Jensen also asks him what the recall looks like in his head when it comes to scripts, Jared replies that it flips in that case that when he's doing a scene he can see the script where the page turns, he doesn't have a photographic memory but he has a visual memory but that's for memorization if he's thinking about what he's gonna do later that day when he gets home he's not thinking about how it looks necessarily he's like making lists in his head.

Jensen says he would probably lean the other way, that when he memorizes a script at first he literally sees the page in his head and is reading lines which is largely why he can memorize lines that he's not even saying like he'll know what Jared's lines are he's basically reading the text in his head. And when talking about daily life if he's thinking about what he has to do when he gets home, he's visualising so if he's thinking about opening the door he sees that door and the dog going out, or thinking about getting the groceries he visualizes the grocery store and the aisle he has to go down.

Jared adds that a big day on Walker or SPN, a one hour episodic tv show, is like 8 pages, if you have an 8 page day you have a full day he thinks the most they've ever had was an 11 page day and that's kind of undoable unless you absolutely trust your director or is a lot of dialogue. He asks Jensen what's the most pages he's done in one day, Jensen answers 24 when he was on Days Of Our Lives that they usually shoot 60 pages a day. x

When the boys had a home ie the bunker was there anything they had to take with them from home or that they kept as a comfort thing when they had to go back on the road? Jared quips a flask. He also says he thinks they probably still had the cooler, he asks Jensen if he got legos or army men Jensen says he got all the weapons in the back. Jared says that when the show ended they had said the things they would love to have so their props department send them some things like motel cards, samulet, an army man and some legos so those are in safe keeping in his house.

The fan asks if Sam and Dean have any favorite driving games, someone in the crowd mentions punch buggies which Jensen says he calls slug bug which is when you slug someone when you see a bug car, and that that's probably what they played Jared says probably while the other one was asleep. Jensen also adds that there a couple of other things that they got from the set which they're not at liberty to talk about but the one thing he really wanted was Dean's two weapons of choice: his pistol and his sawed off shotgun. And that's a little trickier of a prop to take home and across the border because it's not a prop it's a firearm so instead what he did was he got a 1911 Colt .45, and he comissioned the craftsman in Van who had done the filigree engraving in Dean's gun to come out of retirement to do that filigree on the firearm that he bought, and he actually ended up using it in an episode just so he could say it was on tv. Then he did all the paperwork and sent it back home but the shotgun is ilegal if it's sawed off so he didn't think he'd be able to get it until he talked to his dad who told him that he tought his uncle had one and he did, he left it to Jensen when he passed so now his collection is complete. x

J2 Gold Panel Atlanta 2023

[walkergirlsposts]

Do J2 have another panel together or just solos?

Yep, another one this afternoon. The usual.

[walker-290]

There was a time when i would finish up all my work so that I can enjoy con weekend contents. Now i actively avoid con contents. I went from 🥰 to 🤢

And what is this "when Sam and Dean come back" that Jensen keeps harping on? Dude you do know that you are already playing Dean on a cheap show right? Does he know he is not making any sense? Maybe 2023 will be the year when i completely leave this shit fandom now that TW will also be part of the con circuit. It's like more salt on the wound i can't take it.

Anyway i was absolutely enjoying the FIFA final instead of this crap con updates. What a game huh?

I was too much into FIFA world cup to care. But I did watch the 3 panels I always watch. Misha, J2 gold and J2 afternoon. Misha's panel was fun. I knew most of his answers cause more or less they are the same questions. Learned that he had prosthetics done for converting to two face already when previously he said two face would not be on screen until season 2. So that's cool stuff. But I didn't like how he said Jared didn't have to work hard and was rewarded just for beautiful genes. Especially after watching how Jared said in the main panel that he wishes to tell everyone how much trouble he had to go through to reach here and it wasn't always so easy and glorious as people assume.

The Sam and Dean coming back is a bait for the people to not leave the conventions as this is a huge moneymaker for both J2 but especially the main moneymaker for everyone else in that con circuit. Rob, Rich, Ruth, the band, and literally everyone - their primary earning is SPN cons and then their 2nd job is acting. But Jensen saying "Oh I would like to play Dean again" like he is not playing Dean every week on TW seems hilarious to me. I know we ignore TW but to watch Jensen not admitting its existence is just 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Two things annoyed me was "Jared won't get a rim shot" joke is old as fuck ... it's not even funny anymore.

And then Jensen proudly saying how he would murder grandpa on the street and it's so like Dean...Like when did ever Dean wanted to cut off a human being's arms who is old? Idk maybe I blocked mean Dean out of my mind. But still a character being grumpy on a show for comedy sake Vs a person saying I want to cut off someone's arms cause I was out of my lane but he dared to correct me? Whoooof!!! But that's just "pretty boy window dresser" Jensen 😬 right? I wonder if he called the man "bitch" or "son of a bitch" too?

And imagine if it was Jared Padalecki going around telling people he yells at old people and wanting to beat the crap out of them in public? AAs and hellers would crucify him.

Misha being mean to Jared? ✅

Jensen revealing another story of him acting like an asshole? ✅

Con circuit trying to demean Jared? ✅

Fans calling Jared mean thing (old and rusty? Not funny!) ✅

Jensen acting like TW doesn't exist and he wants to bring Dean back? ✅

False reports trying to make Jared look bad from con attendees? ✅

Jared being the sweetest, kindest, funniest guy? ✅

Now FIFA WORLD CUP....I will post all of my feelings in a separate post (than this mess 🤢) But I was ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

[but-damn-is-he-lovable]

Ackles came back for his boy.

Jared Padalecki, Minneapolis Con. RE: His and Jensen's fight in season one.

[supernaturalnardog]

J2 at Vegas con

I can't stop thinking about how sweet Jensen was to Jared at the convention on Sunday. He complemented Jared's acting at his M&G, mentioned how close he and Jared are at the afternoon panel, and even told Jared "You are a teacher, I learn something from you every day." It really seems like it was Jensen's way of trying to take care of Jared and help him feel better after the bad experience Jared had at the casino on Saturday night. Their relationship is just so amazing ❤️❤️❤️.

[hudine]

J2 Afternoon Panel Stageit Recording - #SPNSEA SeaCon 2018

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[sev3nruby]

J2 afternoon panel SPNNC.  Photos taken by sev3nruby.

[cooloddball]

Here is my break down of the j2 afternoon panel at Dallascon 2022. It is only about Jensen and Misha.

A fan asks a question on behalf of their sister and mentions that the sister loves j2 but loves Jared more and Jensen just randomly says, "Hey Misha, I get that too." Umm Jensen are you okay? Like why would he randomly say that? Was Misha watching him? Was he telling Misha 'see not everyone likes me either so you are not alone' or???? I just thought that it was peculiar to just say that out of the blue.

The next one is when a fan asks that throughout the series a few of the cast members got to drive baby but Cas never got the chance and Jensen says how they don't let Misha operate any machines and so on and so forth and then Jared goes on a rant about how Jensen told him about the "new guy" and you can see Jensen's demeanor changes because he doesn't know what the ranting moose might say in front of his parents. The moment Jared says "then I was like how's the new guy?" Jensen's eyes become so shifty they are moving a mile a second and it reminded me of that time he was asked about the photos of him and Misha and he got really scared and his eyes got shifty until the fan clarified it was about the sunset photos or that other time he was asked about the rug burn on his chin which we later learned that was caused by "fight training" with Misha and Jared. Like he only gets like this when he's been caught unaware especially when it comes to Misha. Okay I know there are probably other times like that but I can't think of any more at the moment. I wish I could gif this moment because the way he looks around like he has been caught with his pants down is just so funny to me. Poor guy that's the problem with having a friend with no control of what they say. They'll say just about anything. Pray for Jensen and his so not subtle crush on Misha circa 2008-day 1. Also, someone explain to me why 13 years later they are still talking about the day Jensen met Misha, like what was so different from meeting anyone else, Jensen tell us more.

Anyway, Jared continues on his rant and mentions that Misha just stood there like children of the corn and Jensen doesn't laugh when everyone else is laughing. He even leans back in his seat to listen to this ranting moose talk about Misha and he just looks stoic like he doesn't want to give away too much of what he's feeling. He was probably internally screaming "please shut up"

And finally, when Jensen talks about the photo ops it's just so funny to me like he is so excited when he talks about Misha. And to make it even funnier it's the way Jared looks at him confused like "oh you are still talking about Misha?" when Jensen starts talking about the cockles photo ops and the way he says it reached a point and they were like "yeah sure let's do it" and he leans back so comfortably in his seat with his whole body relaxed and a smirk on his face. That's the look of a man who enjoyed doing it.

That's about it.

[sensitivehandsomeactionman]

PhxCon 2017 StageIt Afternoon Panel

[jnj4ever]

Just My Opinion on SPNNJ22

I haven’t posted or reblogged very much about Supernatural in a while because, as much as I love and adore the show, characters, and most actors, I have truly come to despise this fandom. Yet, given some of the crap I’ve seen on SM in the last few days, I feel compelled to write this now. So feel free to ignore or reply your opinion.

There’s something I noticed when I watched the gold and main panels. It was in the gold panel that Jensen informed us of Jared’s accident and how bad it was, even saying he’d seen the car. Yet, in the main panel, Jensen said he’d come from NO to NJ and was returning to NO that night. That leaves me with several questions. Did Jensen fly back to Austin just to check on Jared after the accident? Was Jared, and therefore the accident, in NO? When exactly did the accident occur?

I’m going to play devil’s advocate for a moment. Most know how very little I care for Genevieve. She’s seemingly made her normal BS posts since Jared’s accident. Could these have been scheduled posts and she was actually with him when he needed someone to be? I don’t think that’s very likely, but I recognize that it’s not impossible.

As for Jensen’s AKF joke, grow up people. Jensen spent the majority of the gold panel voicing how much he missed Jared and the majority of the afternoon panel taking pot shots at the wannabe. This was joke was just another pot shot emphasizing how insensitive and dense the wannabe is. I mean, honestly, Jensen straight up called him out for attention seeking right there on the stage, denied SPN was about the angel, and almost cruelly teased him for not knowing how to throw a punch at the camera. That’s just the tip of the iceberg. He didn’t miss one shot, including the silent movies quip.

I also have other questions about the accident. There aren’t many people Jared trusts to drive. He’s said before that he prefers that control because he knows his children depend on him to be around. So who was driving? Was it Cliff?

And to those who were celebrating Jared’s absence from the con - STFU. Jared and Jensen made Supernatural the treasure it is. No one else did that. Kripke dreamed it. Singer produced it. J2 made it. If you don’t want to see him at a con, don’t go. But for the love of all that’s moral and good in the world, don’t celebrate another person’s misfortune, especially when you don’t know how truly unfortunate it is.

[whengeorgiawentblue]

Cockles panel are just better, this is not even being biased its just stating facts, they should keep gold panels as j2 but thos afternoon should be a rotating panel between j2,cockles, and misa/jared sometimes, spice it up creation, why do they hate good things

Absolutely! I've seen just a few pictures and videos from the panel but Jensen and Misha have more chemistry and joy than all the J2 panels put together

[teamfreewill2pointo]

Re: Jensen's covid concerns. I understand why he would have them, and agree that he would be right in doing so. However, we are also talking about the man who let Jared use his shirtsleeve as a tissue...on stage...during an afternoon J2 panel. Is it possible he was overly cautious because of the Canadian protocols which were always much more strict than in the US? Personally, I wouldn't want to risk my first big job post SPN.

J2 grooming each other is very different than exposing oneself during a global pandemic. Jared's snot has zero risk of killing vulnerable loved ones.

Speaking of grooming -

So I used to study nonhuman primates and one of the ways we measured intimacy/bonds was through proximity and grooming. You can anticipate bonds and breakups by looking at who is proximate to whom as well as who grooms whom.

Because of that training, whenever I watch conventions, I keep track of the various actions they do, including who touches who, how long the touches last, the context of the touches, etc.

Different people/primates have different levels of touch. So, in general, Jared touches more than Misha, who touches more than Jensen. It's not unusual to have Jared touch Jensen 10-15 times in a panel, while Jensen will touch him 0 or 1 time, not including fist bumps/hug.

At Vegas, Jared was touching Jensen similar to how he normally does, while Jensen was more touchy. We've seen Jensen groom Jared, but this is the first time we've seen Jared groom Jensen at the con. Jensen leaned into it.

This isn't the only reversal they did this con, they also switched who tells the Dad joke and who stares in disapproval.

A lot of people noted that they seemed very comfortable with each other and I think these reversals helped a lot. Most people don't keep track of who touches who or for how long, but your brain subconsciously registers it.

[livebloggingmydescentintomadness]

i was backtracking through the cockles tag, as one does, and i was wondering why do you think creation never tried to add any cockles panels, or even j2m? i mean they did the panels for 10 years and never switched it up, it was always the same dynamics and they had to know there would be a demand for it and yet we only ever got two cockles panels outside of jib and like one or two j2m.

lol yeah, doesn't that suck? i've been to three creation cons, and i think it's a combination of things. for one thing, anyone who's ever seen jensen and misha on a stage together..... knows how they get. they get rowdy and flirty. ONE cockles panel a year causes all sorts of hijinks; imagine if there were a dozen cockles panels a year. it would be chaos.

but for the most part, i think it's just how they structure the panels. friday is the c list spn cast like kim rhodes, brianna buckmaster, osric chau, etc, then saturday is the b list cast, usually misha and then mark sheppard or alex calvert, and then sunday is the big headliner day with jensen and jared. because their panel isn't til sunday, j2 don't usually arrive in the city until saturday night or, more usually, sunday morning. the con in vancouver is known for j2 showing up saturday night for singing and partying, but usually just that one since it's close to where they filmed.

jibcon in rome is different, because everybody shows up for the whole weekend, and so jensen and jared are available for panels on saturday as well as sunday and they can fit in a jen/mish panel and a jared/mish panel as well as a j2m. the creation cons close out on sunday afternoon, so there just isn't time when you factor in how long it takes to do photo ops and autographs.

after a while creation started offering cockles photo ops, but then they had to offer jared/misha ops as well, because that's part of it too - if they let jensen and misha do things alone together but NOT jared and misha, well that's sort of like admitting destiel is a thing, right? that there's something special about misha and jensen and by extension dean and cas, that isn't shared by jared and misha/sam and cas? and we absolutely can't have that.

i think new fans, particularly those who arrived after nov 5 and exist in a post-confession fandom, won't ever get how we have been FORBIDDEN from talking about destiel all these years. we were not allowed to talk about it. we were shamed or literally booed if we mentioned it. inferring that dean is bi was a federal crime.

so, uh... when in-person cons start back up at the end of the year, that's going to be.... interesting.