#Lady Ursa

[cienie-isengardu]

You. I see you. After all the years, I finally see you, Ozai. You're just a small, small man trying with all your might to be big. Your heart is so small, you've no room for your son or your daughter, or your brother... or even yourself. [Avatar The Last Airbender: Smoke and Shadow]

[dyingroses]

Avatar: The Last Airbender + AO3 tags

[iamveryold]

The part where Hermione is telling Draco about Rita Skeeter in the jar and she says thing about the bubotuber pus really leaving a staying impression, that is the part that really reminded me that Book Hermione is absolutely capable of developing into a character like Lady Ursa’s Hermione. Something about that part really reinforced that yeah no, Granger is and has been since my childhood, a BAMF.

[foulfirerebel]

ATLA and RWBY thought

This is admittedly a cluster of a thought I'm having. Tai Yang Xiao Long, and Willow Schnee share the same sort of flaw with Iroh and Ursa from Avatar The Last Airbender: They're good people, but either neglected or otherwise had problems with one or more of their children owing to their own problems that were going on.

No, I don't think either of them were horrible people. Just had problems as parents/uncles. Admittedly going through the abuse they went through (Willow and Ursa), or the haze of depression (Tai and Iroh) do a lot to people and can result in far worse but the problems are apparent in their kids/charges.

The entire Schnee family were screwed over by Jacques, to be sure. I'm not going to argue against that. But Willow driving herself into drinking didn't exactly do anything good for Winter, Whitley, or Weiss. At least in her case, Willow aided Weiss in ousting Jacques and was constantly helping her children and the heroes in V8.

Tai is a complicated story. I know I have mutuals that think he's a shit person, shit father, etc. But I personally see someone that is trying, at the very least, to attempt to make up for neglecting his kids during a very trying time. It's not good when your first wife leaves you shortly after your first kid is born and your second ups and leaves in the middle of the night to a secret mission and is presumed dead. He helped Yang get back on her feet, which worked out in the end. Not exactly the greatest father in the world, but in my frank opinion I'll take him over Raven Branwen.

So, we have two parents that are trying to help their kids in the current time period of RWBY after having neglected them at the least during their childhoods out of depression, grief, and alcohol addiction.

What about Iroh and Ursa?

Given how Zuko turned out, and me being a Zuko stan? I don't think I need to go too in depth on my favorite Fire Nation Prince. Just that a lot of his problems stem from his father's influence in his life and his mother leaving him as a child, though he had Iroh there it was a long journey from where he started to where he ended up.

A friend of mine once explained her pitying Azula, whereas I just saw a monster that needed to be stopped, like this: Zuko had two buffers against Ozai and they were Ursa at first and then Iroh later on. Azula had no one and was twisted faster and harder than Zuko was.

I don't hate Azula anymore, though I did when I watched the show back when it was airing. Given time, discussion, and reflection, I can see that Azula was very much a victim of Ozai's shite...with no one to aid her, really. It doesn't excuse the stuff she did or tried to do in the show or the comics, but it does put that breakdown into a sadder context.

Basically, the point that Iroh and Ursua didn't try as hard as they could have with Azula makes sense to me. It doesn't mean they're bad people, just have favoritism in their hearts and didn't try hard enough.

This isn't a critique, more just my opinions on things. I just think all four of these people fit into the flawed parent trope a lot better than making them straight up abusive. It shows what depression, abuse, etc. can do to a person and the extremes they're willing to go.

TLDR: Iroh, Ursa, Tai, and Willow all messed up regarding their kids. But at least they decided to try in the end, and I applaud them for that.

[depression-in-the-fire-nation]

rewatching Avatar again. once again reminded of how much the Avatar comics butchered Ursa’s character. smh.

[akirakaoga]

Azula’s mom Ursa is here now ♥

[waterfire1848]

[ If the Avatar fandom had their way ]

Sokka: Look at all these straight people.

Sokka: Ozai, you’re straight.

Sokka: Ursa, you’re straight.

Sokka: Everyone else? Thanks for coming.

[raointean]

Thor and Loki parallels to Zuko and Azula

I know what you're thinking. "It's obvious, Thor's the older sibling who got banished and Loki's the crazy, evil one!" I'm here to tell you, wrong! Hear me out.

Thor and Azula

Favored child of their father

Used to do their father's dirty work

Intended for the throne

Powerful in the eyes of their people (aka, using methods and weaponry seen as powerful by the people and not "alternative weapons")

Lighting (duh)

Constantly chasing after their brother, usually on their father's order

Attempted (or succeeded) to bring their brother home to prison

Outgoing with a solid group of friends

Remains close to their family until death (or until they leave in Azula's case)

Loki and Zuko

Favored by their mother

Never really intended for the throne, but promised it at some point or another

Weak in the eyes of their people (uses magic/swords instead of swords/firebending)

Estranged from their family

Loner

More obviously abused by their father than their sibling(s)

Eventually honored by their people

Sacrifices themselves for someone something greater

Bonus: Hela and Azula

Favored by their father

Used to do their father's dirty work

Intended for the throne until a mental breakdown forced someone to lock them away

Extremely powerful (murder prodigy)

Definitely a perfectionist

Forged into a weapon by their father (Thor probably was too, we just didn't see it so I didn't include it)

Zero qualms about having people executed

Thank you for coming to my TedTalk

[empyrean-sprinkle]

the ballad of sara berry works SO WELL for pacifica northwest.

like everyone says “oh its azula”, but the line “i know you wont disappoint me and mom” would show the exact opposite, cause ozai didn’t want azula to be like ursa. however, this works perfectly for pacifica, since both her mom and dad would want her to be prom queen

[vampirella-1990]

I love this song. What is your opinion?

[demaparbat-hp]

Forget about canon, I want Kyoshi Warrior Ursa.

[dyingroses]

Avatar: The Last Airbender + text posts

[iamveryold]

I just finished The Trials and Tribulations of Draco Malfoy’s Employment and it was soooooo good! I absolutely loved Lady Ursa’s writing style. The sarcasm and wit of the narration was so entertaining and the dialogue was fantastic! It was adventure packed with thievery and beasts and magic and Todd. Any story where a random Todd shows up tends to be great (see thrilling adventure hour and their Todd) ((also Todd from Magicians)). I’m starting the next book in my queue, but best believe, there will be much more from Lady Ursa in the future!

[1v31182m5]

Dec 5: Unplanned

So basically uh they both received a letter from "eachother" for a date. But neither wrote that so there's a matchmaker who's obviously obvious who it is, I'm not even gonna name.

They somehow never mentioned it again so they both think it was the other side who planned it till this day

Bonus:

[zuko-always-lies]

Characters that Azula both loves and respects: Ozai, Ursa, Mai

Characters that Azula respects but does not love: Lo, Li.

Characters that Azula loves but does not respect: Zuko, Ty Lee

Characters that Azula neither loves nor respects: Iroh

[stardust948]

[Out shopping]

Ursa: Are you tired?

Azula: No.

Ursa: If you're tired, we can sit down.

Azula: I'm not tired.

Ursa: Oh okay. I couldn't tell because you were dragging your feet.

Azula: Why didn't you just say pick up your feet?

Ursa: I didn't know if you were tired.

Azula: You were being passive aggressive!

Ursa: No I wasn't-

Azula: You're so infuriating!

Ursa: Please stop yelling in the store.

Azula: I'm not yelling!

Ursa: *Holds out a dress*

Azula: Oh!

Ursa: Do you love it?

Azula: It's perfect!