#Polyphemus

[dragoninahumancostume]

Okay so in Underworld Saga it says 558 died under Odysseus' command

In the Troy Saga it is stated he has 600 men under his command

With the 43 that survive by the end of the Ocean Saga, it means that 557 had died by that point

Counting roughly 15 dead men in Survive (I counted the hits of the club), that means there were 585 men surviving by the end of the Cylcops Saga

That means Poseidon drowned 542 men

Eurylochus being still a human in Puppeteer, and saying there were still men left, men in plural, there were at least 2 who were not turned into pigs by Circe

Edit: the 558th man to die was Elpenor, he fell of a roof when he was drunk

[doob-or-something]

The fundamental difference between Epic’s Odysseus and Homer’s Odysseus is that while in Epic, “Monster” is sung after Odysseus traverses the underworld, in the Trojan war Odysseus chooses to be the “monster” the second he leaves Ithaka.

The man will do anything to return home with glory not after an exhaustive journey, but the second he is drafted into a war that he does not care about. It is the reason why he tells the Greeks of Kalchas’ oracle after the winds stop at Aulis. Killing Iphigenia is wrong, if course, but to Odysseus getting back home is far more important, in the same way that getting Helen back is more important to Menelaus. It (along with his previous hatred for the man) is the reason he kills Palamedes when he attempts to make the Greeks return home, and why he either kills Astyanax or pushes for a greek to kill him.

I think that this aspect of glory and pride that Odysseus has is not present in Epic’s Odysseus. He seeks glory to his name, perhaps due to the fact that Ithaka is a relatively unknown/weak kingdom during his time and he feels he needs to prove himself further. Meanwhile, Epic’s Odysseus, for example, reveals his name to Polyphemus due to his righteous anger after the death of his comrades, not so that the world will know it was he, Odysseus, king of Ithaka, that blinded the cyclops.

In summary, Epic The Musical’s Odysseus aims to return home causing as little damage as possible. He is forced to kill Astyanax by Zeus, and forced to reveal his name to the cyclops due to his rage and the death of his best friend. Meanwhile, Homer’s Odysseus will get home a glorious king no matter what he needs to do. He will kill essentially anyone in his way as long they pose a threat to his return and he won’t flat out die attempting to challenge them.

If “Monster” is sung in the Underworld Saga for Epic’s Odysseus, it would be the very first song in Homer’s Odysseus’ hypothetical musical.

I wouldn’t want this to be seen as hate by the way! I don’t think there’s anything wrong with Epic’s interpretation of Odysseus (I’ve been bangin out to the entire musical for a LONG time and it’s a big reason why my greek mythology phase came back), I just thought the two interpretations were really interesting!

Anyway, I’ll get back to animating “Luck Runs Out” now :)

[farbexx]

Odysseus vs Cyclop

I listened to the released music and cyclops and underwater sagas are my favorites, but imo ' Wouldn't You Like' slaps, Hermes is an icon /m

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[jarondont]

You want me to introduce myself? The thing that almost killed Odysseus?

[possessable]

ignore the way odysseus looks i didn't feel like figuring out a design for him to make this stupid drawing

[lunameimei]

So that's basically what happened in "The Cyclops Saga" right ?

[jedi-valjean]

Odysseus' Strategy Notebook

PLAN TO DEFEAT THE TROJANS

Build giant wooden horse and hide inside it

PLAN TO DEFEAT THE CYCLOPS

Build giant wooden horse spear and hide inside it stab the cyclops with it

PLAN TO ESCAPE THE CYCLOPS' CAVE

Build giant wooden horse and hide inside it

Build giant wooden SHEEP and hide inside it

Build a bunch of normal-sized sheep and hide in those

Skin real sheep and use them to make incredibly realistic sheep costumes

Ride the sheep out of the cave but upside-down so he doesn't find us

PLAN TO DEFEAT THE LASTER LAESYTR LESTRYG CANNIBAL GIANTS

Build giant wooden horse and hide inside it

Build giant wooden cannibal giant and hide inside it

Build giant wooden RUN

PLAN TO DEFEAT THE WITCH

Build giant wooden horse and hide inside it

Build giant wooden pig and hide inside it?

Build giant wooden d go with Hermes' plan

PLAN TO DEFEAT SCYLLA

Build giant wooden horse and hide inside it

Build wooden decoy sailors and hope she eats those DID NOT WORK

PLAN TO STOP MEN FROM EATING SACRED CATTLE

Build giant wooden horse and hide inside it

Build giant wooden cow and trick the men into eating it

Take a nap and come up with a better plan

PLAN TO ESCAPE CALYPSO'S ISLAND

Build giant wooden horse and hide inside it

Build wooden decoy statue of me and put it in her bed

Build giant wooden d

PLAN TO KEEP ODYSSEUS HERE FOREVER

Steal strategy notebook

Check for splinters just in case

PLAN TO SNEAK BACK INTO THE PALACE

Build giant wooden h

Disguise self as giant wooden beggar normal old beggar OKAY I GET IT NOT EVERYTHING HAS TO BE A GIGANTIC WOODEN REPLICA I GET IT ALREADY sheesh Athena

GET THE SUITORS OFF MY BACK, PLAN B (THANKS A LOT MELANTHO)

Announce that I will marry whoever can string my husband's bow and shoot through wait this isn't my notebook

PLAN TO KILL THE SUITORS wait who scribbled in my notebook

[ninadove]

Sorry about your son. We meant no harm. Yeah we only hurt him to disarm him. Yeah, no, we took no pleasure in his pain. We only wanted to escape. So. Yeaah.

[anniflamma]

do you think poseidon lets his son ride on his back in houres form ? p.s your blog is cool

Of course he would!

[withered-tears]

Polyphemus: still pissed off about my sheep but i havnt had wine in ages so FINE I'll let you guys leave.

Odysseus: Im so glad we see eye to eye

Polyphemus: i am KILLING everyone. im killing you im killing your fleet you are all dead die die die

[animit-y]

Odysseus saying “I am your darkest moment” to a cyclops he’d just Blinded is crazy, actually

[katkit-drops-alt]

Hello, I’m here to offer you bad Greek mythology/epic the musical memes in honor of the Circe saga trailer dropping (I couldn’t think of any funny memes for Circe tho😭)

[theriverpointace]

my personal thoughts on "polyphemus" is that polyphemus was gonna actually give a gift ot odysseus and then he said, "i'm so glad we see eye to eye."

and polyphemus thought the pun was atrocious and decided to kill him instead

[robinh00d]

I had a joke about Polyphemus, but Nobody was around to hear it

[theodysseyofhomer]

it's not so much that a cyclops is monstrous because a one-eyed giant who eats people must be a monster; it's that anyone who does not follow your laws, your customs, your culture must be a monster.

polyphemus eats his guests not because he's a cannibal — cannibalism also being a taboo that applies to humans, and he's not human — but because he doesn't follow xenia. polyphemus says to odysseus "we don't respect zeus here," but odysseus approaches polyphemus as if polyphemus is the foreigner. he expects his customs (which serve him, a conquering hero) to take precedence, even though he is the one away from home. he's been away from home for over ten years.

because to odysseus, there's not much difference between the trojans (the city he's sacked) or the cicones (a people he raided on the way home) and polyphemus, right? except that polyphemus is able to turn the tables. he is a monster, not in the sense that he is not a human being — the trojans have not been treated as human beings — but because he can insist that his law be respected in his own home.

and it's not that odysseus can't adapt. look at how differently he approaches nausicaa, or even circe. but his perspective is what we wayfind by, and all the while odysseus, at troy and during the wanderings, is himself foreign.

and then he comes to phaeacia and weeps over songs of war. and then he comes home and doesn't recognize it. and then divine intervention both hides him from and reveals him to his son and wife. and then he has to conquer his own homeland. and then the poem ends, abrupt and final journey spoken of but unresolved. and each of these things makes his perspective strange to himself, and by extension to us. it is exactly at the moment odysseus comes home that he believes himself to be lost, foreign, for good.

[possessable]

do you think olympian family reunions are fun