#Yandere simulator drama

[your-fave-jewish-magical-girl]

LONG RANT: You can't fix Yandere Simulator. Let it die

Yeah there's no beating around the bush here. Everyone know what happened. Alex is a groomer. If this is your first time hearing about this, look Yandere Dev up for two minutes and you'll be up to date.

And yaddada I am feeling a lot of emotions, mostly anger and a shred of disappointment watching the thinnest sliver of hope I had for this game die. I'm guessing about 20k of you feel something similar, that or you're enjoying watching the shitshow unravel.

I guess if you've been on this subreddit, or twitter, or tumblr, you probably know what my title is referring to. For almost ten years now, Yandere Dev would get into a controversy and the fucked up aspects of his game are exposed and fanartists and writers and devs take it as an opportunity to 'fix' Yandere simulator. The most notable example I can think of is Love Letter from 2020 I think. It's a good idea in theory, literally separating the art from the artist by recreating his concept without the problematic stuff. There was a time when I agreed with this idea and even wanted to do something similar on my own.

But now with Alex's practically confirmed abuse, this concept I guess is leaving a bitter taste in my mouth, It has for a long time, but now I think It's time to address the concept of 'fixing' Yandere Simulator.

For starters, I believe it has gotten to the point where you can't separate the art from the artist with Yandere Simulator. Not after this. And I don't wanna get into an hour long discussion about how that works, but Yandere Simulator is different because the source material was never good in the first place. It was something people were *following in hopes of getting good*. So when fixing the game, the question isn't really what you should repair, (assuming you are up to date on Yandere Dev's controversies) but what you should even bother keeping. It's like trying to redesign a building accidentally built to make sure tall people can't get in. Yeah you can redesign the doors and the rooms, but when does it get to the point where you have to throw out the building and start from scratch. That's the problem with Yandere Simulator. It's not one or two flaws. It's basically the entire concept. It's this murder borderline porn game centered around Yandere Dev's barely disguised fetishes about an inaccurately portrayed underaged person with some mental illness killing other schoolchildren (and pedos, accidentally based Ayano???) for a mediocre audience self-insert where you have to take panty shots to get information and all the people your killing are offbrand anime characters and everyone's name is bad Japanese and, well you're in this subreddit, you know all the problems with Yandere Simulator. Putting heart clips in Ayano's hair or making Taro hot or Amai chubby or give Osana freckles and make the teachers minors or making any of the character different races blah blah blah, that doesn't actually change anything systemically wrong with the game, story, and concept. It's putting frosting on a moldy boot

(btw, I'm not actually against the Yandere Archetype. You can write problematic stuff so long as you give it respect. But this is part of a bigger issue.)

So You could remove all of that, but at what point are you just, making other piece of Yandere Simulator that has loose inspirational ties. Not that there is anything wrong with that--It's actually a good idea--but you can't reasonably say that you've 'fixed' Yandere Simulator after throwing out 70% of it. Yes, it may be true, but It's not good writing criticism when you're erasing the core of what make Yandere Simulator Yandere Simulator. Yandere Simulator is an anime fetish amalgamation made up of what Alex likes taking place in a pseudo-dating sim world gone wrong where sexy murder stuff happens. Once you start to remove that, you're removing its (admittedly cringe) soul. Not to mention, comparing some of the content in the game to his abuse, it gives the game itself a bitter taste. Is this something that you really want to reform? Is this something that *should* be reformed?

It's always "When will someone finally recreate Yandere Simulator" and not "Why should anyone recreate Yandere Simulator."

Additionally, whether you like it or not, when you keep posting fanart and rewrites and advertising your fangame as 'inspired' by Yandere Dev. You are giving him attention and free advertising. Even if you put 'Yandere Dev fans DNI' in your bio. I promise that all this time you are trying to spend 'fixing' this horrible game made by an abuser, you could be spending so much of that time making fanart for actual indie projects who deserve your attention who could use that exposure to grow or maintain a community.

And getting to the elephant in the room when it comes to people 'fixing' Yandere Simulator. It's no secret that Yandere simulator fangames fail. Paper Will made a good video on this but oh boy do they fail hard. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRLCsWhiNTc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRLCsWhiNTc). But I don't think It's a curse problem--even though that theory is funny. Talking about why they fail outside a game perspective (young inexperience devs, reliant on volunteers, biting off more than they can chew, unrealistic expectations, drama etc.) Devoting years of your life to something you hate isn't sustainable. And most of these games DON'T last years, they last months. Because spite is a spice, it's awesome, hot, everyone loves it. But you can't serve a meal with spice alone. Making as something as difficult as a game out of spite is an absolute loaded task that requires the stamina of a God to achieve. And if you're thinking about doing this as an after school hobby. You're gonna get burned out fast. I don't have any data on this, but even though I don't do coding. Creating a project out of hate is so exhausting, because It just doesn't work as that good of a motivator down the line. Just investing all this time, resources and energy into constant hate, and to prove what? That you're better than possibly one of the worst indie game devs of the century? Who do you need to prove it to?

The heart of all art is love, love for something. Even satire and art made to criticize has love for something, even if it's just itself and the joke It's trying to tell or for the message It's trying to send. And spite isn't the worst motivator as long as it's not the *only* motivator. And that's really what these "Fan" (word used incredibly loosely) games fail at their most basic mechanics. It's not actually made for love for the source material, but to one up it and make a point, and the entire concept collapses in on itself.

And to finally addess why I made this post. Responding to Alex's grooming by posting about how you can 'fix' the story of his game and redesigning/claiming characters and stuff is downright insulting and inappropriate. Not every Yandere Simulator fixer does this so I'm not trying to lump everyone together. There was a time when Yandere Dev would do something embarrassing or whatever and posting about how his ideas could be fixed was insightful, but as a response to this situation, It's just bad. People are hurt, and making this about you and how you can redeisgn or rework the game is clout chasey and tone death. Please don't use grooming to one-up Yandere Dev for whatever reason. Nobody wants that. Not the victims, not the former staff and volunteers. Nobody. Just keep it to yourself.

I honestly am just tired. I hope anything I just said is even somewhat comprehensible. But if you as someone who thinks they can fix yandere simulator takes away anything from this, It's to just make your own original stuff. Enough with the fangames and redesigns towards a person who does not deserve even a spec of your effort. Stop giving this guy more publicity and trying to revive this dead horse that is Yandere Simulator. If you still like aspects of the game I beg you to just make your own yandere themed piece of media, webcomic, book, game whatever separate from yandere simulator. Post your ORIGINAL characters that are yours and not reskinned versions of whatever Alex made. And let's just let this goddamn game from by a groomer die. Don't try to fix it, don't touch it. Just give it the sad death it deserves.

Please.

Fuck.

[zebracorn-chan]

My opinion on the latest Yandere Dev Drama [TW: Grooming].

It was always implied Yandere Dev, real name Alex Mahan, to be that type of individual: in both Yandere Simulator and other games he worked in the past there were type of content around the "sexualizing teens and unconsensual women" in general. What happened is beyond disgusting, but unfortunately I'm not surprised, I'm surprised this didn't happened sooner.

I never get people's interest in the game *after* some of the initial drama started spreading back in the first days, as well as his open disinterest in actually finishing the game, it always felt like he genuinely doesn't care as long he makes money. I understand the moment you work on a project and that starts to be popular you want to think in the monetizable part, heck I would do the same, but I still would try to make a product people would enjoy consuming as well as me working on it.

Outside of that he would openly exploit his fans, even teens, to work for him without paying them, disrespecting someone for having DID, and make very f-ed comments on how he wants to m-rder his parents.

We can all agree from that people should have started worrying.

I originally liked the concept of the game, but I started loosing interest after these dramas I just write started spreading and his reactions in people making fan-games of it: saying "people were stealing his idea", like I'm sure he created the anime archetype of Yandere 100%. Kind of ironic how a lot of fangames team ended up in some sort of drama as well.

All of this always stopped me to make any kind of fanart of the game, spin-offs and fangames. This will happen only when the game will be bought by a company that actually cares and will remake and finish it.

I hope the victim is getting the help needed and that this will open eyes to the people that tried to justify Yandere Dev untill now, this is not justifiable. Alex realized this as well as he didn't try to do that in his latest "I'm Sorry" post like he did in the past for other dramas.

All I have said can be easily found online. Please refrain from going around harrassing people that still want to enjoy the game, as long they don't support Alex monetarily they are clearly not the problem.

If you are a minor and an adult is treating you like this, they don't love you, they are a pedophile:

Unfortunately I had my fair share of finding groomers online, I talked about them here:

This is all for now, have a nice rest of your day/night and remember to stay hydrated!🦓🦄💖💫✨

[grapegoggle]

drama clubbers 🙂‍↕️🙂‍↕️

i really like that they all have rose motifs. big fan of rose motifs. I think my favorite on this page has to be Tokuko- shes very pretty and awesome…

I do not support yandere dev.

[terminallyspookystudenteagle]

REMINDER THAT ALEX "YANDEREDEV" MAHAN GROOMED A 16-YEAR OLD GIRL, INTIMIDATED HER INTO SILENCE, AND COPYRIGHT CLAIMED AN EXPOSÉ OF HIS ACTIONS. (WE GOT CONFIRMATION THAT ALEX DID SO USING HIS VICTIM'S NAME)

THIS IS AN ARCHIVED LINK OF THE EXPOSÉ. THIS IS HERE FOR YOU TO SEE DUE TO THE STREISAND EFFECT; BECAUSE ALEX MAHAN DOESN'T WANT YOU TO SEE IT.

DO NOT SUPPORT YANDERE SIMULATOR. DO NOT SUPPORT YANDEREDEV.

IF YOU ARE A MINOR IN THE FANDOM, GET OUT NOW WHEN YOU HAVE THE CHANCE BEFORE HE PREYS UPON YOU NEXT.

IF YOU ARE AN ADULT IN THE FANDOM, CONDEMN ALEX MAHAN FOR HIS VILE ACTIONS AND CUT ALL SUPPORT TO HIM.

IF YOU STILL SUPPORT HIM DESPITE THIS DAMNING EVIDENCE, DO NOT INTERACT WITH THIS POST. YOU WILL BE BLOCKED FOR AIDING AND ABETTING HIM.

[rene-01]

Say hi to my yansim Justin design! And Duncan I guess./j

I might do a colored version depending on how much people like this / are interested in this

I’m all for questions!

[wheredidalltheusersgo]

Art of Justin from @rene-01 and his boyfriend's Justcan Yandere Simulator AU!

[dipstar1489]

Redesigns Please

Kind of board, so I figured, fuck it, I want to redesign+rewrite characters who have faced criticism for their designs. I might also try to fix the main issues the original series had and figure out how it could have been avoided.

[ask-yandere-sim]

this is a very self-indulgent ask but... is it possible to see a little drawing of gema and harold from total drama rambling about nerdy stuff together? 🫣🩷

[evereinefaust]

𝐀 𝐬𝐢𝐦𝐩𝐥𝐞 𝐥𝐢𝐟𝐞 𝐰𝐚𝐬 𝐚𝐥𝐥 𝐬𝐡𝐞 𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐰𝐚𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐝… 𝐀𝐜𝐜𝐨𝐦𝐩𝐥𝐢𝐬𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐝𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐦𝐬, 𝐛𝐞𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐟𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐟𝐚𝐦𝐢𝐥𝐲, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐦𝐨𝐬𝐭 𝐢𝐦𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐚𝐧𝐭𝐥𝐲, 𝐛𝐮𝐢𝐥𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐚 𝐟𝐮𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐞 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐟𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐨𝐧𝐞. 𝐇𝐨𝐰𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫, 𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐲𝐩𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐥 𝐡𝐢𝐠𝐡 𝐬𝐜𝐡𝐨𝐨𝐥 𝐥𝐢𝐟𝐞 𝐭𝐨𝐨𝐤 𝐚𝐧𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐮𝐫𝐧 𝐰𝐡𝐞𝐧 𝐬𝐡𝐞 𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐭𝐚𝐛𝐥𝐲 𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐝 𝐚 𝐜𝐞𝐫𝐭𝐚𝐢𝐧 𝐬𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐨𝐧𝐞… 𝐀𝐧𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭, 𝐢𝐬 𝐧𝐨 𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐧 𝐀𝐲𝐚𝐭𝐨 𝐀𝐢𝐬𝐡𝐢. 𝐀𝐲𝐚𝐭𝐨 𝐰𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐝 𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐩 𝐚𝐭 𝐧𝐨𝐭𝐡𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐣𝐮𝐬𝐭 𝐭𝐨 𝐠𝐞𝐭 𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐛𝐞𝐥𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐝. 𝐀𝐧𝐝 𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐫𝐬𝐞 𝐨𝐟 𝐟𝐨𝐮𝐫 𝐦𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐡𝐬, 𝐀𝐤𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐦𝐢 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐨𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐚𝐠𝐚𝐢𝐧 𝐫𝐞𝐩𝐞𝐚𝐭 𝐢𝐭𝐬 𝐝𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐟𝐮𝐥 𝐡𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐨𝐫𝐲.

𝐒𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐨𝐧 𝟏

𝐏𝐫𝐨𝐥𝐨𝐠𝐮𝐞

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𝐃𝐨𝐧'𝐭 𝐆𝐨 ⚜ 𝐎𝐬𝐚𝐧𝐨 𝐍𝐚𝐣𝐢𝐦𝐢

[yumeharold]

fun fact i drew both these with lasso tool and inverted colors

[chepelmeshkalmao]

[canonically47]

cringetober day 7 x day 9: pinterest art base x crossover ship

don’t @ me for posting this late, i have a lot of things to do <//3

aaanyways. the guys!! gema takagaki (yandere simulator) and harold mcgrady (total drama island) aka my favorite characters ever!! harold is trying to explain D&D to gema, gema thinks he's a fucking loser. basically nerd vs geek but 400k slowburn enemies to friends to lovers /hj

inspiration for harold's slightly pink hair at the bottom and yellow stripes on his sweater thanks to @hobies-stuff's post!

they are so special to me

more details down here! &lt;3

i can’t say i ship them exactly, they are just the very silly guys from my favorite media! the two absolute nerds together in one picture <3

no but like they make me SO DAMN HAPPY and drawing this was a blast, somehow it took me over one and a half hours lmfao but i’m just really slow and attentive to details sooo yeah!

lineart, colored + art base used below:

[ayatoyanagi]

my pessimistic prediction is that every major YouTuber who talked about the initial allegation will not even be acknowledging Dev’s new video at all

[miinky-momo]

intro post yay

hi im mike

he/they

multifandom and art..

i like undertale, yansim, star stable, tdi, ride the cyclone, warriors, fnaf, pierce the veil, mamma mia... other stuff... real mixed bag

[mochiette]

I'm so fucking done with people defending a groomer. He admitted what he did in his own blog.

[terminallyspookystudenteagle]

I cannot in good conscience remain silent. Not after how long this has been going on.

This is a Google Drive link to a compilation of evidence, by initial accuser AllyMcC, implicating Yandere Simulator's developer YandereDev and composer CameronF305 in several instances of sexual harassment, abuse and assault of multiple underage girls. Both of them have, so far, even after the initial accusations in September 2023, faced no legal consequences, and still have access to at least one of the victims.

In the wake of this disturbing evidence, and their inevitable self-incriminating responses, I fully endorse support a complete boycott of everything related to Yandere Simulator, and ideally, it would be in the best interests of any remaining staff members, voice actors, volunteers, collaborators, et cetera, to resign and cut off all of their support, like many others did in the wake of the September 2023 allegations.

To anyone still willing to claim that both YandereDev and CameronF305 are innocent, you are at best enabling them to continue hurting people, and at worst, actively aiding and abetting their crimes. Do not interact with this post. You will be blocked.

Yandere Simulator has been the missing stair, as Cliff Pervocracy conceptualised, of the indie game community for almost a decade. It's time to stop jumping over it and instead fix it.