@emperor-kumquat Oops, don’t forget the Age of Origins!
Very good point, thanks for mentioning this!
Two reasons why I didn’t include it in my timeline:
1) Much of the Age of Origins information is isolated to the Covenant, and does not have any mention in any other canonical/supplementary materials in TFP. There is some implied lore we can pick up on from what little backstory of Cybertron is actually mentioned in the TFP show, but a lot of the Age of Origins is Covenant-only detail.
Which doesn’t invalidate it or anything, it just means that the way the TFP/Aligned Continuity timeline was set up, the Age of Origins seems to be more like supplementary material to flesh out the other established eras here and there.
2) The Age of Origins covers bits from various eras and fills some space in between to sort of bridge eras together a little better, so the timescale for these “origins” isn’t necessarily all happening within a single timespan--- Maybe from Alpha Trion’s point of view, but not necessarily the point of view of Cybertronian average citizens, who are seemingly the ones who defined the other Eras as we know them in the rest of the TFP content.
A lot of the Age of Origins content somewhat overlaps other Cybertronian eras, and can be placed at various stages of separate time periods.
Alpha Trion and Covenant Continuity
The Age of Origins falls into the “Alpha Trion lets us know not to trust his memories/recounting of things 100%” area of uncertainty, as most of the Age of Origins material is specific to the Covenant of Primus.
TFWiki doesn’t list it as a distinct time period on the same master page as the other eras (although it is included in the Covenant related stuff-- if I have the time later to add links, I will), the other supplementary TFP material doesn’t mention it (or doesn’t mention events in the same way--- this is just a general continuity and consistency problem with all of this stuff), and the Age of Origins is primarily a cluster of events which is specific to Alpha Trion’s record of history.
With the Covenant material it’s tricky to determine what is 100% factual occurrence that did indeed happen at or around the suggested timeframe, or what may be skewed by various factors, including Alpha Trion’s own perceptions of things as influenced by his unique relationship with time and his ability to “edit” history.
He tells us up front that he may not be a 100% reliable narrator, and the Covenant covers a LOT of material that is very condensed, so canonically we know we’re likely missing some details or things may be coloured by Alpha Trion’s own memories or even some degree of history editing with the Quill.
Covenant Consistencies
At the same time, there are some events which we know very much did happen, thanks to the “central” canonical timeline (which is the stuff more firmly, if inconsistently, cemented in TFP Cybertronian history across several stories/the show/etc.).
A lot of what the Age of Origins material covers can overlap other eras; I consider the Age of Origins material to be supplementary to the “primary” timeline, which is the individual established eras of Cybertronian history; The canonical and real-world purpose of the Covenant was to do this and help each era feel more real and bring more detail and backstory to material that wasn’t necessarily highlighted in the TFP show, so the framing of it being Alpha Trion writing the Covenant and the Age of Origins seemingly covering multiple eras to varying degrees makes sense in that context.
Some of the events within the Age of Origins may possibly be considered a “tail end” to the prior era, for example some of the Predacon material may fall into that category depending on how one looks at it; We know the eras in which Predacons lived, and how that overlaps with Cybertron’s post-Age of Primes development.
Origins Encapsulates Other Eras
So while the Age of Origins is named an “age”, it isn’t necessarily all happening within one era, and the individual eras on Cybertron are still distinctly outlined by one or more major event from the perspective of the Cybertronian people.
At the same time, Alpha Trion may consider a great deal more to be a collected Age of Origins, looking at history as a total ongoing singular event of sorts, as it is suggested Alpha Trion may perceive time as a single continuity which he has the ability to “edit” and has certain specific events which he considers to be keystone events (which he may have had some influence upon in some cases), whereas Cybertronian people on average may have a different sense of timescale.
So, for example, Alpha Trion may consider the vast majority of several eras to be a singular “Origin” period, whereas average Cybertronians would think of the same massive chunk of time as being broken down into several different eras.
The Age of Origins fits roughly into the first few Cybertronian eras, so I consider the Age of Origins to be overlapping, as the events it details seem to fit in as bookends to certain eras or as intermittent material that sort of bridges the early history together a little more smoothly, although there is some mention of more modern Cybertronian era content as well (stuff that fits in slightly better later on)-- But again, Alpha Trion do be looking at time differently!
So to Alpha Trion, he may consider a huge chunk of Cybertronian history to be the Age of Origins, while other people might categorise those events differently.
This seems to be the way the timeline is presented, when comparing the Covenant to other TFP/Aligned materials, but as with all Transformers continuities, it is impossible to say 100%! :’)
I hope this makes sense; I just woke up and gotta do weekend clinical support LOL so my brain is already fried. :’)
I have no time to cross reference the Covenant at the moment, so please also be aware that I’m almost certainly forgetting or missing something here!
If anyone may be interested in the Age of Origins, I would direct them to your excellent video on that material! :) <3
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