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[alwaysbewoke]

[co5oo]

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[ultravioart]

Oh God damn it.

Please boycott Palworld, apparently Pocketpair (devs of Palworld) a few years ago(?) made a party game that hosted a generative ai art model. Fuck that. Those models (Stable diffusion, etc) are created by abusing workers, and use unethical openweb datasets (private medical data, NSFL material, copyrighted material etc all gets used in openweb datasets).

I instantly drop any series that flirts with ai. Why twitter.com waited until Palworld's release to post about the past ai bs is beyond me, I would have liked to know that before purchasing. :/ Palworld was announced YEARS ago.

I had honestly thought Craftopia was the first game Pocketpair released because the YouTube videos I had watched of playthroughs had said it was thier first game release???

And I thought generative ai models were not allowed on steam?!?! apparently Steam changed the rules to allow generative ai models/assets in games, but only if they are tagged as using ai. Ugh. Way to worsen literacy of what ai actually means! (Populating a forest with randomized trees in a video game uses generative ai, but not the unethical kind. Same premise can be done with buildings, etc.)

Sigh. Lesson learned. :( Be sure to dig up the game dev before purchasing. This is so disappointing, I wish I could refund Palworld.

Palworld as is at launch does not seem to use any ai generated art. Generative ai that produce 3d models from text prompts are no where near the quality of the creature models, so it seems all models and animations have been done by hand at least. But with the dev's past history I am very concerned that Pocketpair may incorporate ai or worse, NFTs, into Palworld or future games. :(

So yeah, please don't financially support Palworld. I don't trust Pocketpair.

[themistressofdolls]

I also find it bleak that a lot of the TF/transformation community on sites like deviantart have quickly embraced AI content slop without a damn care for the ethics or the fact they are stealing art which the end game of which only aids billionaires that want to torch culture in exchange for a quick buck.

[midnightactual]

to talk about AI in art more specifically, I think in so far as AI has any legitimate use in art, it's exclusively as an artistic aid. if you generate an AI image of a character, then draw on top of it using it as a loose reference (I'm not talking about tracing here), that's not really any different than using any other photo reference or inspiration. if you feed all of a character's dialogue to an AI, then have it crosscheck versus dialogue you wrote for them and make adjustments to your writing (I'm not talking about copying and pasting here), that's not really any different than having someone beta-read for voice or doing it manually yourself. it can be an effective tool for doing very specific and technical things faster and thus developing a better personal artistic intuition for them. it's acceptable as training wheels, like spellcheck but much more sophisticated

what is broadly unacceptable is to just let AI generate something and release it into the wild as-is or edited. AI making your life easier or giving you more confidence in making your art is fine. using AI to substitute for and try and shortcut the artistic process is not

[chewwytwee]

OpenAI and Tumblr aren’t like, besties. Tumblr has always had issues with bots and spam so I don’t think they were exactly stumbling out the door to make a contract with the company that’s been the spearhead of modern day spam.

Tumblr and openAI negotiated the contract, so think for a second about what each company gets out of the deal. You can easily argue that OpenAI wouldn’t want an opt-out option, so you could also argue tumblr was the party behind the option existing. This is all speculation, but it’s just as valid to say ‘The opt-out option was a non-negotiable for tumblr, but OpenAI pressured them into making it opt-out instead of opt-in’ as it is to say ‘Tumblr only included the opt-out option to appease the user base’. People are only making the latter point (and I’d argue are primed to accept it) because all the fear-mongering has made everyone’s knee jerk reaction to AI fear and rage. Oooooo neural nets and weighted graphs Ooooooooooo they’re gonna kill art for real this time for real oooooo all the other panics about automation were wrong but THIS one is real I promise oooooooooooo we need to ‘Kill AI’ just like we had to ‘kill automation’ because technology has gotten too advanced. we need to make computers worse and then everything will get better ooooooooooo

[gab-has-adhd]

Hey uh so just to make my opinion on the subject clear

I SUPPORT AI ARTISTS.

I SUPPORT AI ART TOOLS BEING TRAINED WITH FREE, NOT STOLEN IMAGES.

I DO NOT SUPPORT AI ART BEING MADE FROM AI TRAINED ON EXISTING ARTWORKS FROM "REAL HUMAN BEINGS" WHO REFUSED TO HAVE THEIR ART USED LIKE THIS.

I BELIEVE AI ART IS A VALID FORM OF ART. MANY ARTISTS ACTUALLY USE AI FOR CERTAIN WORKS.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO BE SOME KIND OF TORTURED SOUL WITH WICKED CREATIVITY AND IMAGINATION TO BE A REAL ARTIST.

YOU DO NOT NEED TO GIVE PURPOSE OR SIGNIFICATION TO YOUR ART TO BE A REAL ARTIST.

THINKING ART IS SOME KIND OF MEDIA RESTRICTED TO PEOPLE WHO ARE ABLE TO DRAW/PAINT EXTREMELY WELL, HAVE MESSAGES TO SHARE OR ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF IS LAME.

ART IS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN.

PLEASE SUPPORT AI ARTISTS. DO NOT SUPPORT AI ART MADE WITH STOLEN IMAGES. DO SUPPORT AI ART AS ANOTHER FORM OF ARTISTIC EXPRESSION.

BE ANGRY AT BIG CORPORATIONS MAKING QUICK AI ART APPS FOR EASY MONEY, NOT AT INNOCENT AI ARTISTS.

END THAT WHOLE MORAL PANIC.

[thedeviousdevilxx]

So some interesting discourse appeared on my Twitter dash!

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So this account I follow made the above comment on this AI generated image of Henry Cavill, and got me thinking does this apply to fanart as well?

I vehemently oppose AI generated content because it STEALS from real artists. AI generated art is NO GOOD. Period.

What fascinates me more is this argument about the content being presented here because I follow/seen/and known a LOT of fan artists who draw sexy fanarts of celebrities, or characters portrayed by actors that are fairly photo-realistic. An example, I’ve seen very sexy/nude fanart of Henry Cavill’s Geralt, where they draw his face to look exactly as Henry.

I read some posts underneath this with people sharing real legitimate concerns about AI being used maliciously on non-celebrities, like creating deepfake porn of real people who aren’t celebrities, and I totally agree that should be a concern, it already exists hence why I do not LIKE OR SUPPORT AI art period.

However if say this image of Henry was drawn by a real person (I’ve seen hyper realistic paintings, some mad talented folk out there!), would people be so up in arms like the OP was? What if it was tagged as Henry Cavill’s Superman in a sexy outfit? Would OP be as outraged or not? Does it or should it matter?

I honestly don’t wanna ask on Twitter if they’d feel differently if it was fanart made by a real person, would their opinion differ in any way, because on Twitter people are vicious and I don’t wanna be accused of asking in bad faith because folk love to sling that accusation around when people simply want or need some clarification or wish to have honest convo, Twitter ain’t it folks! lol

So what are folks thoughts on this?

[lwoorl]

I'll say it: "Oh all AI artists do is write a stupid description and immediately get an image with no effort, there's no art in that" is the new "Digital painting doesn't count as art because it takes no effort"

[thatfrenchacademic]

How do you think a student should be dealt with if you can tell the student has taken the bare bones of an essay from chatgpt but has made genuine effort to improve that essay and has just used it as a jumping off point regardless of how well or poorly the student did it? would you still consider it unethical? Do you think these cases can even be spotted by a professor? im not making a case for either side of the argument just curious ab your take

Hello !

So I am not an ethics expert, but I would say ethics is a scale. So is it more ethical to take on the bare bones of a ChatGPT essay and work on it, rather than directly submit the AI-generated output ?

I mean... I guess. It's still not very ethical, and potentially academic misconduct, imo.

Would we be able to spot it ?

I don't know. We could probably spot that there is something a bit off about the essay, but that would depend on how much you re-write it.

To me, the overwhelming issue then is less "is it ethical" but "is it a good essay in the end". And the answer is that it's not. You will NOT get a good essay, tailored to your class and the expectations of the grader, out of ChatGPT. No matter how much you re-write and re-formulate everything. A nothing burger is a nothing burger.

The problem of ChatGPT is that it does not give you quality content, complex arguments and coherence throughout that we expect from College-level writing. As long as you start the essay writing process with ChatGPT, you will be stuck here. I would argue that the worse use you can make of ChatGPT is to ask it to outline anything from scratch.

The most productive (and maybe, MAYBE ethical? to be discussed honestly) use of I can see of ChatGPT is the exact reverse: come up with your essay. Do the hard part, the one that the grader wants to see. Come up with the thesis, the structure, the arguments, the examples. Be creative ! Then draft the whole thing. And let ChatGPT be what it is meant to be : a writing tool. Have it reformulate some sentences. Have it have it find a way to better embed your examples. Feed YOUR WORK your ChatGPT, and let it produce a sleek version of YOUR content. Use it like a highly advanced version of Grammarly, or the Word editor.

TL;DR: If you want/need to save time, save time on the writing part. Not on the thinking part. The thinking is what people are for! I don't know how ethical this is, I am not making a case for or against it when you use like this. But at least it's not dumb or respectful of your peers, your grader or your lecturer.

At the end of the day, the more AI can do in term of writing, the more we will be looking for the added value of human input. And the added value IS ideas, thinking, creativity, because AI can never go beyond the content it has been trained on - but YOU can!

[florbelles]

potential tw for mention of the handling of sensitive topics, specifically sexual in nature, but oh my god one thing that's almost never discussed about the Great AI Debacle is the fact that it is literally incapable of sensitivity reading

even though i specifically state that i don't accept ai manuscripts i obviously still get fucking inundated with them and when i tell you that the most consistent content marker of an ai generated manuscript (so beyond the obvious grammatical, structural and language-related errors) is that there will be straight-up sexual misconduct or assault that is never, ever approached as such. (revenge porn! false assault accusations from the Rival Love Interest! harassment played for laughs!)

it's not that humans are not fully capable of writing that shit on their own—if they weren't, it would be quite literally impossible for it to show up here—and more than a few of these scenes wouldn't have been out of place in the 2000s bro comedies, but that's the thing. they're SO out of place and tonally dissonant. they're not only dated, they're nonsensical and virtually never have any actual bearing on the actual plot.

anyway. another way chatgpt brings progress & change to the industry <3

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radcliffe 🤝 tony

don’t let your baby AI look at weird shit for the love of god

[callixton]

you people r so weird about ai. chill out please