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im not going to discuss molaesmyr with anyone who hasn't read at least a single book on decolonization.
#“ludinus is exactly like the gods!”#“the gods at least had a reason to destroy aeor!”#go unpack your support of imperialist ideology & then we'll talk#for the record im exaggerating obv#im just sick of people putting blinders on#and acting like they suddenly dont understand power dynamics#molaesmyr has absolutely nothing to do with whether ludinus is right abt the gods or not
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two of my moshang fic ideas come from the same premise.... im kind of weighing which i want to flesh out and outline.
basically. ok. og!mbj kills himself or otherwise dies after killing og!sqh, and instead of going wherever demons go, transmigrates to a svsss timeline where the Airplane has already landed, so to speak. except he actually just reincarnates as a random disciple. both vague ideas i have are making him an ding. and also he has no system unlike the other two moshang ideas i have.
the options:
(poll is above cut for formatting reasons)
also. MBJ's name asa normal Human disciple.... (family name wang, bc.. king; personal name.. 朔 shuo —- reasoning — idea of shuo as literary term for north, and the idea of “turning again towards to meet” bc it’s mbj’s re-meeting of sqh?…
but that seems like someone w that name has a wikipedia page. so how ab out 王希朔 (wang xishuo, name pending approval) which w those characters at least doesnt pull up any real person's personal page on google... idk. i'll work on it.
awakens as an an ding disciple a bit younger than shang qinghua (like… 22 to his 27 or smthng).. sqh has just become peak lord (and already working for mobei jun), and a lot of their cohort is taking on other roles (basically working in house at various businesses). perhaps og!wang xishuo originally would have. but mbj wants to see what sqh is like here. he seems so different when he's not trying to manipulate a demon... sqh is like. wow wang-shidi has suddenly learned how to use his height to great effect to glare at me imposingly!! Aren't i his shizun now??? why is he so scary (and hot)?????? System???? Mbj sets out to woo sqh; to outsiders, their power dynamics are reversed from og!world; once it’s revealed sqh is a spy ppl are like, poor wang shuo, fool in love. Except wang (xi?)shuo / og!MBJ has his own unhinged binghe shizun arc, even if the vibes are completely different lol. just happens a few years ahead of bingqius in this story and resolves quicker
Still an ding disciple mbj , but — start time. they’re teens and the same year or just mbj being one or two years older, and “wang xishuo” is on the mission where sqh meets mbj. Stands aside and observes. Helps sqh rescue mbj more to try and understand sqh's motives. Sqh is like system wtf did i fuck UP. maybe wang xishuo, still grieving his own sqh, tells mbj: Dont trust him. you cannot, can never trust him. maybe mbj doesn’t, maybe this colors how svsss MBJ forever views sqh? Or else…idk. maybe even svsss!Mbj in a love triangle w himself, not realizing it. Sqh panicking and desperate bc mbj isn’t . trusting him, and system keeps deducting points., even if it adds points when he spends time w wang xishuo. when he finally does missions w wang xishuo again, it turns out system still counts wang xishuo as mbj for mission purposes, which sqh (oblivious!!) takes as a rare glitch in his favor !! maybe his personality made this extra he doesnt remember writing like him more than the original goods!! with how cold and cruel hs Favorite Character is to him, it's nice to see his cold shixiong and fellow an ding disciple melt a bit and actually act protective of him, even if he walks down the spy road with him...?
…I cant remember the other peaks i had ideas for lmao so ig hes gonna be random an ding disciple 王朔 / 王希朔 (wang (xi?)shuo* (*name pending approval) and the issue is . where the story starts.
these are clearly v rough sketches. posting curious if moshang nation has thoughts; also handy to have this typed somewhere
#meta#mine#ik its a v literal on the nose name for a character [something like... king - to hope/strive for + beginning; new moon.]#in my defense this is svsss.
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reading the first part of the chapter was really interesting showing gojos relationship with his parents!! after satoru leaving and seeing his dad and mom's interaction with eachother makes me honestly sympathetic for the whole family in general 😞
like in a way i feel bad for the mom having to see her husband and son's relationship deteriorate knowing that she doesnt have much power to do anything but watch.. i know people would argue and say that she should be doing more than become a bystander to their arguements and cater more to her husbands side but i cant really blame her 😣 her intervening and trying to make satoru understand his fathers intentions was probably a way to diffuse the situation and calm at least one of them down
i lowkey hope to see more of gojo and his parents since i find their dynamic is a stem of how gojo copes with his emotions and interacts with the reader whenever conflict occurs (that whole scene of him arguing and bringing up issues that weren't appropriate to mention esp when reader is at a vulnerable state)
i wonder if koji and reader will at some point interact with gojos parents 👀👀 and if so how will they treat the reader esp when himaris parents (correct me if im wrong i lowkey forgot if those where himaris parents) and even the readers mother holds a sort or disdain towards her 😞
so many things to unravel between gojos and reader's relationships with their family 😩 i feel so bad for all of them that seeing their whole fight and that scene where reader was crying and koji was awake at that time to try and comfort her omgg 😭😭😭💔💔 literally shattered my heart but im glad that reader was able to finally let her emotions out and bond with her son thru that ❤️
also please correct me if im wrong for possibly looking too into this LOL i assume that maybe gojos mom isnt bad but is trying her best to keep the family from breaking further apart. i wonder how she feels abt reader and if she holds the aame opinion like everyone else has (himari and her parents, readers mom, etc..)
LORDDD SORRY FOR TALKING TOO MUCH LOL I WASNT EXPECTING MYSELF TO GO OFF ON A TANGENT
this story is too good to NOT stop talking abt it! keep up the amazing work and dont burn urself out ❤️
hello! ☺️
so yes, u were actually correct on almost everything haha. there will be more of gojo and his parents relationship, as well as his parents seeing koji again.
his mom has said messed up things to reader in the past. but imo, she’s trying to fix her mistakes, past and present. so seeing her husband and son fight like that and seeing all this shit happen, at the end of the day, she wants her family to be happy. even if that means reader and koji are steadily involved ☺️ she’s also seen first hand just how much of an effect reader has on gojo
one comment brought this up last chapter as well, but as much as gojo doesn’t like to admit it, he does take after his father a lot. and yes, his dynamic with his family is a determinator of how he copes with his emotions and interactions. we see this a lot in just everyday life as well where as people grow up, they might find themselves suddenly acting like their dad or their mom or they would implement a parenting strategy because “that’s what their parents did”
but i’m glad reader was able to hold onto her son at the end of such a hectic night as well 😪😪
thank you for your insight and have a wonderful day!! 💕
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This ending .... I can name 500 reasons and I will name them right now, because I don’t think I’m the only one who is upset with how things turned out. (Also, A positive message for all of you at the end)
MAJOR LEAKS SPOILERS/ READ WITH CAUTION
Update: after reading more theories from fellow RM bloggers, and sleeping over it one day, this entire chapter might be an april fools... Don't fully lose hope yet beautiful people. It's me just giving a review on a possible fake April fools chapter
After following this franchise since 2013, so nearly a DECADE. this ending is a pure disserve to the entire fandom. I feel like Yams has rushed it just for the sake of being done with the entire manga. So many things are left open, characters and their developemt are reverted back all the way to chapter 1 or are left even worse than that...
Mikasa’s worthless character development/ Aaronmika’s horrible toxic codependent relationship
Oh honey... Let’s start with how horrible Isayama has treated her. We were all rooting for her, because we all felt like she was so misunderstood. She had a horrible childhood and imprinted on a guy who treated her like trash 99 percent of the story. And then, slowly but surely, she starts to realize she has to stop obsessing over him in the uprising arc with the help of a real man who treats her like a queen, more importantly, he treats her like a real human being. This man sees her for her abilities and that she has the power to be self dependent. She learned parts of herself, that she was able to work together with him like no one else could. She learned parts of herself she was unable to do so if she kept obsessing about Aaron. All this love, care, mutual understanding and RESPECT these two shared.
but...NAH FUCK THAT, right Yams?? Throw all this development away, all this bonding. Let’s make the main female lead even more yandere than she already was in the first season. Let her make out with his decapacitated head (like dude, this is also pure disrespect to Aaron’s dead body btw) and let her obsess even more about the guy who has treated her no better than a piece of toilet cloth 99 percent of the time. The guy who was never really appreciative in front of her for saving his ass billions of times, who always pushed her away, who yells at her and snaps at her whenever he can instead of reasoning and talking calmly with her in mature way. (EVEN PARODY YOUTUBE CHANNELS WHO DONT SHIP ANYTHING MAKE IT A TROPE WHERE AARON TELLS MIKASA HE HATES HER GUTS WHENEVER HE CAN)
Then after all that, suddenly Yams tries to last minute persuade us Aaron’s always been head over heels for her??? He should have build their relationship better which he hasn’t even tried to do so... He must be thinking his fans are stupid for eating this from his hands.
Like seriously??? What is this???
Isayama is just fully contradicting himself. It’s like someone tipped him off with a buttload of money for him to write Aaron like this to satisfy shipping needs and to cash in those extra money’s from it. Even if he tried to cater to Erem*ika, this is not how you write a loving and caring couple which people will root for.
This next two panels just freaking infuriates me to the core of my soul. I can’t even describe how dissapointed I am with Mikasa.
Why is she clutching that head so obsessively like that? Why is she walking and turning her back away from her comrades? After everything they have done for her, after all they’ve been through?! After everything Armin has done? Standing up for Mikasa, beating up Aaron for hurting her. I feel like even Jean, Connie and Sasha have cared more for her in a healthy way. Sure, Aaron cares for her romantically too apparently (What a twist Yams :)), but has he aided her to becoming a mentally healthier individual? Has he aided in her mental stability? The answer is a big fat NO! All I see between these two after today’s raw Chapter’s are too Yandere obsessed individuals who have no clue on how to maintain a healthy relationship.
Love should only go as far as the heart can endure and it seems like her character is not willing to be aware of that. Even Armin was able to let go of Aaron in those latest panels. Why does her entire character resolve around this guy??? I really do not understand. Her Ackerbond and her age is not an excuse for her to throw her life away like this.
Shonen’s disgusting portrayal of women
I’ve seen this countless of times in the many years I’ve watched anime. SasuS*ku from Naruto, Ichih*me from Bleach, Shinji and that oranged hair girl from Neon Evangelion.. Why do these women get decreased to simpletons with one single goal? And that is to obsess over a bland male lead who either treats them like trash or doesn’t notice them up until the last last chapter (LITERALLY WHAT YAMS HAS DONE). Some go even as far as the male leading wanting the kill the female love interest and yet the female lead is still in love with them???. It’s disgusting for him to write the MAIN female character this way.
It’s dissapointing we believed in Isayama doing Mikasa’s character right. That she’s finally being able to let go of her codependency and to live for herself maybe live in Hizuru and find more about her roots???, but every single time she shows some improvement, it’s burried deep in the ground again by the Author. It almost seems like a lowkey kink of some of the male Mangaka’s to write about a girl obsessing over them no matter what. I see this so many times to the point that I truly stand behind it that some of them might have this fantasy.
I wished he didn’t portray her last panels like this. Everyone else is living their lives while Mikasa is still grieving about him. I’m not saying she’s not allowed to grieve and everyone takes it at their own pace, but cmon... Show her living her life too. This is too much. Her being next to his grave and grieving him as her last panels just shoves it in our faces that YET AGAIN, BEING OBSESSED WITH AARON IS ALL HER CHARACTER STANDS FOR.
I truly despise how Isayama handles her grieving, kissing his decapacitated head, carrying it around like some handbag, and her last panels being thissss.
The world leaving Paradis alone miraciously after all that???
It’s so weird and out of place with so many political feuds and disagreements between the world and Paradis, the entire Rumbling happening and we can see Mikasa just chilling outside in Paradis with no one bothering them. You can see the rings of the walls in the picture below. I don’t know the exact reason behind as the manga is still in Korean, but from what I see, the story went the route of: throwing a happy ending without enough proper reason and it was all fixed just like that in a snap! It doesn’t fit the entire narrative of attack on titan for things to be so peacful out of nowhere. When it comes to the narrative, how things work in that world, how hard it is to achieve peace, everything made somewhat sense up until chapter 138. 139 seems so so out of place... It’s like I’m reading a chapter from a totally different manga.
Aaron Yoghurt got defeated so easily/ Aaron’s character assassination
The build up on the first part of the rumbling was great, those kids carrying coins. You could feel humanity’s fear and Aaron’s hatred in those pages. As if he truly had a goal and he has turned away completely from his comrades and his closest friends with no return. The world seemed truly doomed, but he got defeated just like that. He was in the nape all this time (because screw the warhammer power of hiding yourself elsewhere in his ginormous titan body). There is no master plan as we all expected, and in the end he just acts all yandere in the paths with Armin and that’s it... They massacared his entire character as well. Many fan theories created a better ending with his character. Him being reincarnated as Historia’s baby would be so much better. For him to still keep on seeking and to strive for power. It has always been his motive. It’s his personality from the start until chapter 138. Even if things are okay, to keep on going and to seek that adventure, but then.. He’s so weak and directionless suddenly.. It’s so weird... This is not Aaron at all???
Using Aaron for him this entire post, because I don’t want others to invade our tags... :)))
Historia’s baby
The only panel we got from Historia’s child was this. Just a normal kid, normal life... Why did Isayama put so much effort in highlighting Historia’s pregnancy if it was nothing too spectacular anyway? It seemed he had major plans for this kid and for their development too??? It’s again, big plans, big developments, big relationship dynamic, but all got thrown out of the window...
Don’t read the next sentence if you are a minor :’)
It’s like almost ejaculating, but stopping right before it and repeating that every single Arc.
My energy when writing about this chapter is the same as Nostalgia Critic and his hatred for atla the live action
In Conclusion...
I know us fans should not be deciding on how this story should end, because this is Isayama’s story after all, but I truly wished for him to wrap up things much more rounded. There are so many unanswered questions... Again, I think for the sake of being done with this manga, he rushed all of it. He’s become a millionaire from this story and now his pockets are jammed full, I guess he doesn’t need to put in any effort anymore, right? Perhaps a controversial opinion, but I really wished he cared for his fans a little bit more with this last chapter by giving some answers that make sense at least. It’s his fans who gave him this platform and the opportunity to tell his story and for him to at least give in a bit of effort especially in the last chapter is the least he can do. Rivamika being canon or not, he truly rushed it without thinking much about the entire story line. He expanded it so much, he didn’t know how to bind it all together.
Even after all this, I’ll still ship them in the headcanon type of way. I do give credit to Isayama for giving us a template for such a beautiful dynamic between Levi and Mikasa. He decides to waste it, but that doesn’t mean we have to. I want to thank all the people with amazing writing skills, the ones who give us beautiful art like @carmenlee @phit chan @vialesana and many more. I want to remind all of you that we can create something beautiful of our own and we don’t neccesarily need canon lore for that. The art I’ve seen, the fanfictions I’ve read have touched me deeper than Isayama ever could at times.The Mikasa in our mind is appreciate of Levi, is mature, classy and has a strong will for herself. They spend their remaining days together peacefully. Keep writing, keep drawing, stay creative.
I love you all so so much, I’ve only been publicly active since March, but thank you Rivamika fandom for giving me so much joy as a lurker these past 7 years <3
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Heloo~ I saw ur event and cant help but ask for an au☺️
I would like to request a jujutsu kaisen scenario
Toji💞=alpha
Inumaki🥺=omega
Alpha femle reader🕶👀
16.bonding(NSFW)
(Where 3 of them meet for the first time and have an unusual yet beautiful connection but the 2 alphas fight for the omega first .ofc all of them r hardcore and dont hold back 😳)
Btw congrats on 1000 followers hope ur page grows even bigger 💫💫💫💫☺️☺️✌ p.s u have a new follower🥰
Heyya!🍀 Thank you so much for saying so! I'm honestly still so surprised at how big my page grew and that its still growing 🙈🥺 and hope you enjoy,~
(Female Pronouns)
1000 Follower Event!
NSFW Scenario: ABO AU! Alpha! Toji x Omega! Inumaki x F! Alpha! Reader – 16. Bonding (NSFW)
Warning: NSFW (ABO/Omegaverse Dynamics, threesome, oral, riding, missionary, teasing, overstimulation, power dynamics, biting, mentions of blood)
Word Count: 3, 474
♠️Alpha!Fushiguro Toji♠️ & 📢Omega!Toge Inumaki📢
“How else do single alpha's spend their Saturday evenings?” {Name} posed the question to the bartender as he stood mixing her drink and he quipped “Sitting at a bar apparently.” {Name} laughed and softly clapped her hands together “Correct answer” she thanks him when the drink is placed down in front of her. {Name} takes a sip and surveys her surroundings, trying to spot something or someone to perhaps make the evening a little more fascinating. Her eyes suddenly land on someone that catches her attention, a young man sitting alone in the corner with a large collar covering some of his face. {Name} downs the rest of her drink deciding he would surely be more than able to provide a bit of entertainment for the evening. As she approaches; her attention is diverted by the feeling of someone's eyes on her and sure enough there is another alpha, no doubt who also shared interest in the young man but {Name} was the one to make the pre-emptive move. Her eyes meet the gaze of a black haired man that has an intense presence. Another alpha that clearly was here for the same reason as her. Toji didn't mind that he was encroaching, he did not care but at the very least was polite enough to play it off. {Name} and Toji stood across from each other in front of the table. Toji stood aside, the first instance is to disregard each other's presence and in fact it was {Name} that took the plunge to speak to Inumaki.
Inumaki looked up to see two alpha's approaching him, of course with one now decidedly hanging back while {Name} had taken the honours upon herself to give some form of greeting, his eyes shifted to Toji who stood outside of the interaction, but considering how forthcoming and friendly {Name} seemed, Inumaki felt a little more inclined to her, it was certainly a calming and kind aura that had him settling into the pace of the conversation. And he had opted to remain silent, only nodding in response until he finally replied with “Kelp.” It had {Name} taken aback, and being a stranger to the young man. It was understandable that she had yet to understand his circumstances or the fact that besides a very few select words, in everyday conversation he would be relatively silent. Inumaki looked slightly nervous seeing her reaction, {Name} could infer that something may have been the reason and smiled gently as a sign of reassurance, sliding into the seat at his table. {Name} flashed a quick glance towards Toji who seemed to tilt his head and smile at the little interaction, it was cute and yet he seemed to be enjoying the challenge she poses him. Toji ambled over, it took a little assessing before he decided it was something worth pursuing, he stood at the table and greeted Inumaki who showed no visible signs of discomfort and was rather entertaining the alpha. He took a seat, instantly leaning back and making himself at home in the chair. “Pleasure to meet you, I'm Toji” he mused, offering no surname and adding to his mysterious act that he was trying to put on. Besides surnames weren't needed for the kind of things he had in mind anyway. Following suit {Name} provided her name with a charming smile and playing friendly with the new alpha that had joined them. Inumaki traced his name on the table capturing the attention of both alphas as they read it. {Name} complimented his name and despite no change in his demeanour he was feeling a little bashful admittedly. Toji kept watching everything before him, eyes gaining a hint of annoyance every time he saw {Name}, her sickly sweet smiles that were directed at him did not help either. Though the tension finally settled when {Name} relented to his presence being there. Seeing that Inumaki wasn't feeling one way or another about being joined by Toji, he wasn't perturbed and actually felt oddly pleasant to be around the two. Despite the initial annoyance, Toji and {Name} found some form of chemistry amongst themselves, not that either would care to admit it, soon enough the three were flirtatious, prone to some interesting quips and witty banter amongst themselves.
A flurry of messed kisses placed anywhere they could find, following by tugging at their clothes but too focused on kissing to care right now. Left partially undressed and admiring the trail of clothing that led to the bedroom, Inumaki bit his lip and held back a moan behind the guise of his elongated collar. {Name} smiled running her hands down his body to feel him tremble at her touch. Seeing how sensitive Inumaki is only seemed to stoke {Name} with even more excitement than she already had. Her hand slipped into his shirt, sliding further up and resting on the fair skin, exploring more of his body, dragging her fingers down to see where Inumaki would respond to being touched. Her exploration interrupted when Toji pulls Inumaki out of her grasp and close to him, he proceeds to pull the collar down showing Inumaki's face, a calloused hand grabbing his jaw and placing a rough kiss against his lips, Toji forces his tongue into Inumaki's mouth. Catching the poor omega off guard and for the first time they saw the beautiful sight of a very flustered and bashful Inumaki whose face had taken on an evident red hue and suddenly felt the violent hit of both alphas pheromones. {Name} clicked her tongue at the sight, watching Toji pull away from the heated kiss and lick his lips. Inumaki turned to her, dazed and eyes filled with salacious intentions. His eyes seemed to be begging for something, {Name} leaned in hovering her lips above his own, hearing him whimper slightly at how close she was without doing anything. Before pressing to her lips into his and taking the approach of something slow, yet intense. Toji came closer and knowing from the last time she put her hand on his chest to stop him. Pulling away from the kiss “I'm sure you're capable of sharing big boy.” {Name} stipulated with a devious smile that reflects on Toji's face. Given everything she has seen thus far she can tell Toji is the type of the alpha who wants to stand above, in every situation. Especially situations like this, usually {Name} would put up more of a fight and pose a challenge, though it diverts attention from Inumaki. Who is her main concern right now, for once she had decided to somewhat relinquish control to Toji.
He could sense it, the slight shift in her abrasive attitude towards him now opting not for submission but rather willingness to be more compliant. Toji felt himself smile, the amusement was evident and eventually he wanted to see what {Name} could be like when she kept all of her feisty wiles and wits in all it's glory. But snapping back to the present, they lay their eyes on Inumaki, pushing him towards the bed and down as his back hits the mattress eliciting a small moan. {Name} was the first to pounce, slowly skulking up his body, her hand following and sliding up his shirt off his body, and exposing the newly unexplored territory, {Name} kisses his chest, tracing hands down his figure “I should get you something to wear under here” she muses, pecking Inumaki's lips, trailing searing kisses to his jaw, down his neck and catching the full extent of the sweet, alluring scent Inumaki let off. Toji's hands make their way to Inumaki's hips, making quick work of his pants, and soon enough Inumaki found himself bare in front of the two starving alpha's. Toji grazed his teeth along the other side of Inumaki's neck, his rough hands dragging over his body almost as if studying every curve and crevice, learning all the places that could get a reaction out of him. Toji dug his fingers into Inumaki's thigh, sure enough leaving bruises and spreading his legs, wasting no time to kiss his hip, rubbing circles with his thumb as he teased Inumaki. “Looks like just a little bit of kissing got you this hard” Toji leers, teasing Inumaki's cock with his fingers causing him to whimper. The man smirks and chuckles at the reaction before taking the omega's cock into his mouth, setting a rough pace off the bat and making Inumaki cry out at how sudden and harsh he was being. {Name} continues to coo praises in his ear, running her fingers through his hair before slipping away and to Toji. Her fingers hook into his pants, earning a glance from Toji who growls in warning, the vibration causing Inumaki to bite his hand to stifle the loud moan. Toji temporarily ceases his actions to question {Name} “The fuck are you doing?” he hisses, {Name} bats her eyes at him “Don't look at me like that, just didn't want you to feel neglected~” she mused, intentions clearing the murky tension from the two of them as Toji chortled “So you can be nice.”
{Name} rolls her eyes at his statement, running her tongue along his aching cock, listening to the low grumble of approval escape his throat as his attention diverts back to Inumaki who was taking the opportunity to attempt to catch his breath from the rushed onslaught of pleasure the two had been giving him none stop since their 'festivities' started. {Name} pressed a kiss to the tip of Toji's cock before taking him into her mouth, she didn't need to know him to know he was the impatient kind, the moment he felt that warm wetness of her mouth, his hand tangled in her hair and set the pace he wanted. That tightening feeling settled in Inumaki's stomach, Toji lightly grazing his teeth along Inumaki's already sensitive cock, the way his free hand possessively grabbed him and held him in place, preventing Inumaki from shifting away. The tension grew more intense as Inumaki began tapping Toji's shoulder trying to get him to stop. Toji looked up, his eyes said it all... Inumaki's head flew back as his restrained moans cried out at the feeling, his body shuddering and trembling as he came in Toji's mouth. Toji licks his lips muttering something under his breath, enjoying the sight and sound of Inumaki been reduced to a whimpering mess underneath him. Toji places a quick kiss to his thigh, muttering “Good boy” softly.
Inumaki looked at him, opening his mouth and uttering one word “Kiss.”, Toji and {Name} look at him, a little surprised by his words, thinking he was asking for a kiss. A strange compulsion overtakes the two alpha's as the hand in {Name's} hair lifts her and Toji smashes his lips against hers, kissing her roughly and it was just the little push needed that had them kissing each other madly, fighting for dominance with their tongues, {Name} catches his lip between her teeth and bites; earning a hiss from Toji and pulling away to catch their breaths. {Name} tilts her head and beams at her handy work as Toji uses his thumb to wipe the blood from the corner of his mouth, bringing his thumb to his mouth to lick away the red liquid and humming at her actions. “That was quite something.” {Name} muses turning her attention back to Inumaki who was entranced at the sight “Though, I'd love to go at it with you. I don't want to ignore this beautiful boy any longer” she states, moving closer to Inumaki, unaware that Toji kept watching her, his initial impression now completely skewed and curiosity over {Name} seemed to pique his interest. One thing Toji knew for certain...Inumaki is not the only one he wanted to devour.
{Name} slowly crawled up his needy body, leaving a trail of butterfly kisses to further edge him into that mindset of bliss, travelling up to Inumaki's neck and suckling the tender flesh, leaving her mark on him. She smiles, it is the first mark of many to come this evening. Her fingers lightly dance on his hips, grazing down and slowly pushing a single digit into him, a high pitched whine escapes his throat at the delectable pressure. {Name} bites her lip watching how he unravels underneath her with nothing more than her fingers. While watching the scene before him unfold, Toji refuses to be left out of the action, wrapping his hand around Inumaki's cock, determined to make him go stupid with sheer overstimulation. Inumaki was too cute not to, {Name} places her free hand over Toji's guiding him “Sometimes you need to take it slow” she instructs, her fingers brushing against Inumaki's sweet spot as his body is left trembling. {Name} continues working her fingers in and out, sliding a second digit into him, feeling Inumaki slowly adjusting and being more than eager to take what she was giving. {Name} pulls Toji's hand away and slips her fingers out, now deeming him ready for something more. Toji offers a hand helping her to her feet as their hands work equally fast to shed the remainder of clothing from each other's bodies. {Name} situated herself above Inumaki, straddling his hips, listening to those soft purrs at feeling the contact of skin on skin, Inumaki's impatience and eagerness building in tandem, wanting more. Biting her lip and giving Inumaki a little show as her breasts bounce with her mock movements, allowing only slight contact of where he really wanted to be. Inumaki looks up with such pleading eyes, silently begging her to just stop the teasing and {Name} could not say no to that face. Steadying herself, {Name} lowers herself onto his cock and listening to those groans and restrained hisses of pleasure that escape Inumaki, his hand reaching up to touch her body in a manner of affection and appreciation. “Such a good boy~” {Name} coos, circling her hips and softly nipping at his collar bone, seeing how easily his skin is to mark, how dragging her nails down his chest draws red lines that trail down, lifting herself up before sinking down, her panting breaths with the undertone of soft melodic moans entice her partners to want to hear more from her. Inumaki rocks his hips in time with the steady pace {Name} sets, hands still exploring her body freely until seized by his wrists and having his wandering hands pinned down to the bed by {Name} who roughly kisses him, now starting to feel a little more wanton and a little more heated. Toji's stands behind her, dragging his hand down her back, tracing her silhouette and giving her thigh a cheeky squeeze before setting his fingers to rub circles on her clit “Beautiful” Toji murmurs in reference to the adorable, handsome omega and the feisty alpha in front of him, {Name} weaves her hand into Toji's hair, tugging on it as a soft growl is heard from {Name}. Pulling him in closer to place open mouthed kisses along his throat before sinking her teeth into the flesh, hard enough to feel the bite but not enough to leave any evidence, after a few more kisses and nibbles, Toji pulls away to kiss the back of her neck and bite the shell of her ear “Feeling good?” he hums. Readjusting himself to settle between Inumaki's thighs. Rutting himself against Inumaki, indicating what is going to come next as his cock prods Inumaki's entrance, making him writhe and whine. A soft hand cradles Inumaki's face endearingly “Aw, baby boy, you look so cute right now.” she crooned. Toji still inches into him, groaning lowly as he feels how tight he is, watching as Inumaki bites his lip and grow teary from the pleasure. Toji wraps his arm around {Name's} waist, and his other hand on Inumaki's hip as he rocks into him, withdrawing his hips before pushing them back with a slight snap. Steadily increasing in speed and harshness, his own moans and groans softly joining the symphony of sounds.
Toji's hand slid up from her waist, grabbing {Name's} jaw and moving her closer and giving Toji access to her neck, without warning harshly sinking his teeth into her neck listening to her curse from the pain, turning her gaze to him and glaring while Toji admires his work. Then proceeding to force her body down to Inumaki's chest. Feeling Toji thrust harder, {Name} moans softly muttering under her breath about how good it feels every time Toji rocks Inumaki's body and she feels it with the way Inumaki's cock pushes into her deeper and hits a certain spot. Inumaki looks at {Name}, peppering her face with light kisses and going down to soothe the bite mark with his tongue. “You're such a sweetheart” {Name} chuckles at his actions, listening to the hushed request Inumaki passed to her... two simple words. “Mark me.”
This time was different, she was not overtaken by a strange compulsion, instead because of her own desire, {Name} was simply compelled and inclined to fulfilling his request. Leaving a much darker mark on his neck, the biggest and most evident of the evening. {Name} marking him was the catalyst, the final push to send him over the edge, watching Inumaki's hands clinging onto her while shaking and trying to catch his breath from the overpowering orgasm that left him unable to think. Just listening to all those sweet reassuring words {Name} passes, grinding her hips slowly to let him ride out his orgasm, Toji following suit and slowing his pace. The pitch of his voice goes higher at the overstimulation of Toji thrusting in and out, and {Name} riding him.
It was too much, his mind was unable to do anything but draw blanks and tear up at his sensitivity, everything leaving his mind as all Inumaki is able to concentrate on is the sheer, carnal pleasure that continuously bombards his body. Toji's hand tangles in {Name's} hair and pulls her back towards him, feeling her back collide with his chest had her gasping in surprise. Toji settles both hands on her hips, forcibly controlling her pace and making her ride harder and faster, Inumaki and {Name} instantly got louder at the unexpected action. Her release builds quickly, “You're such an asshole” she manages to choke out between her moans, snapping at Toji and seeing that cocky little smirk as Inumaki once again begins gripping the sheets, indicating he is going to cum again. Watching as the alpha riding him begins to lose her wit to the building pleasure, eyes glazed as her head hangs back, lips slightly parted. Her fingers searching for his and entwining them as she squeezes his hand and feeling the tension snap, leaving her trembling violently from the how hard the climax hit her, Inumaki hitting his high as {Name} tightened around him, forcing the two to spiral down together into sheer bliss. Toji grunts feeling his own release building, the winding knot increasingly tightening in the base of his spine before growling as he pulls out, spilling his seed over the two exhausted people beneath him.
After bringing themselves back to some coherence, the lazy untangling of limbs occur, while seeing Inumaki still occasionally trembling from the remnant aftershocks. {Name} is the first to stand, retrieving water for Toji and Inumaki as well as something to clean themselves up a bit. She throws a towel at Toji, and gently helps Inumaki sit up while tending to him, cleaning him up enough to feel a bit more comfortable. Toji cocks an eyebrow at the obvious day and night difference in the treatment, putting on an act of faux jealousy “If only you were that sweet with me” he jests, looking at {Name}. A tired smile tugs at her lips “Next time, I'll clean you up.”
Toji tilts his head “Next time you say...” his voice trails off, seeing {Name} turning her attention to Inumaki who was softly mumbling, incoherent things though she was pretty sure she could make out the word 'salmon' somewhere in there. Inumaki gestures for them, {Name} accepting the invitation for some rest, crawling into bed and dropping into the dishevelled sheets. Inumaki moves a little closer to settle and nestle into her side, {Name} runs her finger up his arm softly, a soothing action to help him settle after everything. Toji climbs next to them, placing a chaste kiss on the back of Inumaki's neck and admiring all the marks they had left on each other's bodies...One thing was for certain, once was not enough for them and this would happen again.
#jujustu kaisen#jjk#fushiguro toji#toge inumaki#trashytoastboi#1000 followers event#1000 follower event#female pronouns#female reader#smut#ns.fw#lemon#unholy toast#omegaverse au#abo au#abo#omegaverse#toji#inumaki#inumaki toge#zen'in toji#fluff#not going to lie this was a really interesting and challenging dynamic to write#I'm still experimenting with all the jjk characters#jujutsu kaisen scenario#jujustu kaisen imagines#jujutsu kaisen headcanons#jujutsu sorcerer#this took 16 tries over 3 days to post and i want to cry...
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why it drives me crazy when people say c!ranboo has no morals but think c!wilbur and c!ranboo could still have potential to be narrative foils
morals:
loyalty to family/friends: in both his normal functioning and his enderwalk stage ranboo is incredibly defensive of his loved ones. this is 100% the center of his moral compass. he doesn't do certain things he fears will upset others (thus succumbing to peer pressure yes) but i deeply disagree with people argument that that is proof he has no moral backbone. particularly due to a couple of instances:
ranboo visiting tommy in exile: while not directly breaking the rules there was a general expectation, especially the people ranboo spent his time with, of not really visiting tommy. it wasnt really a set rule or anything but ranboo was definitely putting himself at risk by doing so.
protectiveness over michael: when sam and puffy showed up to prank ranboo, he was incredibly defensive over his son. he was ready to kill to protect his son if it came down to it.
rescuing tommy+tubbo: while we have it confirmed this instance was in their enderwalk stage, ranboo going both proves ranboos values in the enderwalk are the same (or i'd argue strengthened even) ranboo moved protectedly in front of tubbo when he and tommy had separated
forgiveness: he is willing to give people more than one chance, he is incredibly quick to judgements but for the most part he does not rely on other peoples opinions of each other to dictate the way he feels about them, he does take it into account in his overall image of them, but like with revivebur, he is willing to offer him a chance.
reciporcity to kindness: when people are kind to him, he is kind back. y'all let this slide as a moral with techno. it counts here. no im not counting it as necessarily loyalty because he is polite and kind even to those he isn't close to.
self-reliance: for better or worse ranboo does not think he needs other people to survive, in many instances he has displayed thinking he and everyone else would be better off if he were isolated. he does not want to depend too much in anyone, which can especially be seen in his desire for wealth. i think it has always been more about i dont have to rely on others, if things go south i can still survive (obviously part or it is needed something to do on stream, im applying other characteristics of ranboo to infer) but we can also see this in him retreating to himself (panic room, not telling anyone about his book being missing) when he is threatened because he believes the best way to handle it is himself
security: ranboo is incredibly driven bu his desire for safety and stability for both himself and for his loved ones. he thrives on consistency. he struggles the most when things begin to change.
difference between foil and antagonist (just for clarity cause some people have been switching up the definitions)
"an antagonist is a character who is in direct opposition to the protagonist. their actions deliberately hinder the protagonist from achieving her goal. this relationship helps build conflict and propels a story forward."
"a foil exists simply to shine the spotlight on certain traits of another character, without necessarily creating opposition or conflict."
credit: masterclass
the opposing traits/beliefs that i think will cause the most conflict between the two (ranboos will be written like this and wilburs like this to differentiate)
leader vs follower
probably the most obvious contention point, pointed out on 5/05 stream by wilbur pressing ranboo on what he stands for. wilbur wants to be in charge. but i think ranboo is how wilbur wanted people to value him. wilbur wanted to be the guy that everyone liked because he believed being liked comes with power. ranboo does not necessarily want to be well liked by everyone, but he wants to at least be neutral so he does do things in order to keep them on his side
conflict driven vs conflict averse
wilbur thrives on chaos and conflict, much like dream he is willing to manipulate situations. rqnboo does everything he possibly can to avoid it
cockiness vs insecurity
wilbur is obviously bold and arrogant. he thinks extremely highly of himself and the postions he does and could potentially hold. he is ruled by this factor and often does not think about the consquences of his rashly made decisions(thats not to say he isn't calculated or intelligent, he is, he just focuses on how things affect him rather than others)
means to an end vs no ulterior motives
all of ranboos bonds are strong because when he cares about people he does what he needs to to take care of them, they usually initiate out of instances of kindness, but he does not seem to expect anything in return. he cares about people because he loves them, nothing more nothing less. wilbur however while some of his relationships were initially based on care the motives became corrupted and its hard to say whether there are any relationships he has at this point that aren't ruled by some kind of benefit for him (my only guess for that would be phil)
similaries: paranoia, trust issues, secretiveness
ranboo and wilbur really are two sides of the same coin, yes they are opposites in a lot of aspects but despite the differences in their values orginate from the same place they jutted of in two completely different directions, they tried to solve the same issue in vastly different ways. ranboos paranoia was attempted to be solved by isolationism, while wilburs mainly tried to solve it through manipulation. ranboo pushed people away and wil tried to force them to be around. both backfired for them and caused them to retreat further into the paranoid states demonstrated by wilbur blowing up l'manburg and ranboo catastrophizing with hearing dreams voice.
I think wilbur's main contenion with ranboo resides in wilbur thinking ranboo glazes through life easily, and that they disagree on what morals means. being more confrontational does not mean you are more or less moral than another person. wilbur does not understand that differing morals does not equal none at all.
I don't think their relationship is going to act as an antagonist because while ranboo is actively keeping an eye on wilbur it wouldn't really make sense for ranboo to suddenly be more confrontational. I know a lot of people are citing the Burr vs Hamilton relationship as parallels in their dynamicI want to remind you that narrative foils are not conflicting in nature. conflict can happen. but the point of them is to highlight the differences in character traits.
likening to burr vs hamilton
burr wanted power but he wanted it to come to him vs hamilton wanting power and actively chasing it
yes this makes sense for wilbur, but it doesnt for ranboo. ranboo doesn't want power. he never has. the reason burr waits on the sidelinesnis cause he is waiting for the chance to act, but ranboo is not waiting for something to happen, in fact he would rather have the exact opposite, for things to be as uneventful as possible.
"Hamilton’s success at the expense of his personal life is countered by Burr’s relative lack of success and his happy family life. Both of these are directly due to the two’s differing goals and approaches to life. Burr and Hamilton are two side of the same coin, opposite results with the same starting conditions."
source
this is exactly what I referenced earlier between the two. ranboo cares about family, wilbur about career. while a lot of their behavior originated from a similar place, their paths rapidly diverged.
hamilton's downfall at burr's hand
i'm gonna be honest i find it extremely hard to believe that a situation will exist where wilbur waits and ranboo acts. however, if one does i still firmly believe it will be revolving around (likely in defense of) the people ranboo loves and cares about, specifically michael, tommy, tubbo. it would be where he is cementing his views of choosing people. but wilbur being hesitant is still difficult for me to think of a scenario on which he would that hesitant? for it to be his downfall?
important to note: ghostbur did also akin ranboo to burr so it is definitely possible that this dynamic is going to countinue to playout in the future
I will shut up now thank you for reading. reminder that this is just my interpretation and analysis, obviously looking at different details could lead to different conclusions. i'm super willing to discuss as long as we are both going to be respectful of each others opinions and courteous <3
#ranboo#wilbur soot#revivebur#long post#also let me know if i need to tw anything else#tw paranoia#tw anxiety#tw death mention
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Imo there is enough to support the possibility of a romantic relationship, but you are writing full on narratives with impossible specificity. You know what confirmation bias is but some young impressionable people dont yet . Forgive me but misleading with ' alt facts' can hurt someone even if you dont mean it. I think you are a good person not looking to hurt anyone. But the way you postulate without any evidence makes your actions a little but like those of a charlatan. Peace and kindness
All these kind words you spew...
It feels more like an advice than a question so I'm not sure how to respond to it...
Let me just say thank you? I never quite understood what the brouhaha was about with my posts but after talking to a few people, 'on the other side' lol and reading your Ask, I think I'm starting to get a better sense of what the problem is.
Something about young impressionable minds or people?
Let the council of elders know, those are not my audience please. I cater to a much more mature audience- at least so far. The people that I interact with and engage with on my posts on and off Tumblr are very mature and not impressionable at all.
They are People with brains who can tell an opinion from fact and can engage in deep complex controversial conversations without throwing up, shedding tears or cussing through to the heavens.
If there are 'impressionable people' reading my blogs- they do so at their own risk. If you know any such people or they run to you with my theories kindly point out to them it's just theory because that's what my opinions are.
I think the best thing you can do is to advice such people to grow up if they are going to sit at the adult table or not read my posts at all. I think you need to learn to hold the right people accountable for their actions.
The best I can do in this case- to hold myself accountable, is to put up a disclaimer on my posts to let people know what it is that they are reading- something I do quite often. But I will make conscious efforts to put up those disclaimers each time henceforth. Thank you.
That I write full on narratives with impossible specificity:
Is this Latin for, 'you write fiction get the fuck outta here?' Chilee.
I don't even know what you mean by this exactly so I may not be able to respond to it to your satisfaction. Bare with me.
So what if I write fiction? What is wrong with writing fiction? Do you hate fiction writers? I don't get what the hate is with these complaints honestly. Do you want me to put up a disclaimer stating my blogs are fiction? Would that help? I would glady do it.
If it helps you sleep at night think of my blogs as fiction- a rose by any other name. I've been keeping up with Shakespeare. Lol.
I don't think it's that deep. Listen, you gotta understand that just because we both 'ship' Jikook don't mean we are on the same team...
Most alt shippers I know and who read my posts and engage with it are not even Army to begin with, for your information. They could care less about these shipping politics of yours. Have you thought about that?
Some simply ship JK and JM and support them because they believe they are members of the LGBTQ plus community not because they are part of BTS.
There are different communities out there who are also into Jikook- for very different reasons. You gotta respect that.
To you, Jikook is just a ship within BTS that may or may not be real, but to some of us they have very much outgrown that description...
They are a brand of their own, a power couple and members of the LGBTQ plus community- Gay Icons extraordinaire. I think we take very different stock in Jikook. So stop trying to fit us all into one box.
It's disrespectful to try and control the way that people perceive their OTP and support them. Jikook don't just belong to Army Jokers, they belong to different communities outside Army. Are you aware of that?
And please don't confuse the intersect. I am an alt-shipper yes but I just so happen to be an Army too. But if I wasn't an Army, I'd still pretty much 'ship' and support Jikook- make no mistake. There are quite a few of us running around these streets, you know?
So you have every right to want to gatekeep your Army Jikook- but you have to do that without infringing on other rights of other 'Jikook communities.'
Throughout my blogs I have tried to shed light on what altshipping is because I thought it would help bridge the gap but clearly that hasn't worked. Sigh.
Misleading alt facts
Do you not know what it means or you are just being ironic?👀


Why is it ok for you to believe and proclaim that JK and BigHit lied about JK dating the Tattoo artist but it's not ok for me to believe JK is telling the truth when he says he didn't date her and that BigHit saw an opportunity to kill two birds with one stone- hence why they didn't press charges against the shop for breach of privacy like they had said they were going to do. Instead, they had asked the shop to keep calm till the scandal died down on it's own?
You start your piece off with the whole, 'there is enough evidence to support a romantic relationship' between JK and the tattoo shop lady- I assume.
For context, this Ask by this anon is in response to my recent post/ answer on the tattoo girl scandal where the topic of discussion was on BigHit, JK and the tattoo artist and not Jikook perse.
A statement that is in direct conflict with JK's statement, BigHit's and the lady in questions, all denying that there was a romantic relationship between her and Jungkook- and somehow I am misleading who- who now with my theory??? Chileee.
Do you see the problem here? Double standards- the hallmark of bigotry. Lmho. You are literally doing the very thing you are accusing me of. Making confident assertions and claiming you know more about JK and the Lady's relationship and even have 'enough evidence' contrary to BigHit, JK and the Tattoo artist's statements denying the rumors- at least when I theorize I admit I'm being delusional. What's your excuse? When you say charlatan are you referring to yourself? You must be. Lmho.
Now I'm confident in my comprehension skills and intelligent enough to know when you make an assertion like this- it is your opinion and you are just stating your opinion. If you are not then honey you'd be opening yourself up to some serious litigation... goodluck I guess. Lol.
You are allowed to form an opinion about a topic. There is nothing wrong with that. If to you, JK and this person dated that is fine. I am not going to cyber bully you, stalk you, throw slurs at you, harrass you, dox you, slid into people's Dms to spread hate and lies about you just because I don't agree with your opinion. And for the record, I don't agree with your opinion. Hehehehe.
I have stated my opinion on the matter. I said I think JK and this person did hang out, go on dates but that there was no romantic sexual relationship between them because I believe that would have had much serious consequences and effects on Jikooks dynamics no matter how much they tried to keep a cool facade. Whoever felt cheated on would have acted more insecure than usual post the incident- how does this make me a charlatan? Are you saying it's wrong it have an opinion? Chileee.
Now if you can produce 'evidence' of them having sex or even kissing, then I will gladly change my mind on the topic and not sweat it.
Jikook have done way worse questionable things in 7 good years and people still don't believe they are dating. Jk hangs out with a female friend a few times in less than a month and suddenly he is dating her? Lmho.
You don't need me to tell you people are more eager to accept a heterosexual relationship than wrap their heads around the fact that two male idols are gay and in a gay relationship with eachother. Don't you just love it when homophobia meets heteronormativity and stinks? I do. Lol.
I mean this is a fandom that thinks JK is 'too touchy' and doesn't respect his boundaries- they practically swear JK is cheating on Jimin with every member any time he hugs, kisses, wings at within the group. You think they will be 'objective' about JK hanging out with a girl? Even if it happened once?
You said something about confirmation bias.... I will not touch it. Lmho.
This is not the first time JK has gone on a date with a girl. This is not the first time he has 'dated a girl', he has hand girls on his laps or whatever- what is a back hug? I think people need to stop defining Jikook's lives by their own standards. If a backhug is intimate to you. Thats you. If you think a grown ass man cannot hang out with a female friend, that's equally you.
You think if he thought it was inappropriate and risky he would do it 'in public?' Get with Kpop Idol dating culture. Lmho.
Do you know the lengths they go through to keep their relationships a secret? Especially non celebrity girlfriends? Chen from EXO got married and where is his wife? They keep their flings tighter than Trump keeps his toupee on his head. Lol.
They hide them not out of shame but out of love and the need to protect their loved ones. These idols have family members who have their restaurants and businesses shut down because they want to keep their privacy.
You think JungKook's girlfriend would- on her own, issue a statement regarding a scandal that Jungkook's agency had specifically directed her and her shop to keep quiet about and lay low till it blew away on its own? And later, started liking couple posts about her and JK? If they were dating, certainly JK would have dumped her after that move. In my opinion.
You think JK would let his fandom drag the person he is in a relationship with to the extent she loses her Job- when in his Itaewon gay pub scandal BigHit referred to the issue as his private affair immediately it happened? They could have kept the same energy with her, no?
They handled his gay pub scandal much better, with much respect and consideration for his privacy- if he dated her sorry but she mustn't have meant much to him at all. And if I were her I would have dumped him for that shit and not stay liking couple posts about us. Damn- But do you.
Taehyung was in a scandal with a girl too- did you see her liking posts and shit and going out of her way to do the most? Did you see how BigHit handled that scandal?
Nothing wrong if JK is 'dating' her or had 'dated' her and whatever person he decides he wants to be in a relationship with I will support him- that's why I support Jikook.
But your opinion is equally valid my guy. Just don't call me a charlatan for mine. You believe they dated, I believe they didn't- and to your impressionable young minds, I hope you are not selling them anything contrary to BigHit and JK's statement. That would be very irresponsible of you. Lol.
What else did you say?
Oh postulating without evidence...
Next time I write a theory based on my observations about Jikook, remind me to break off a piece of my brain and attach it to it- I guess that way people would finally understand when I say things like 'I think' 'in my opinion' 'I feel' 'I believe' that these are just my thoughts and opinions and not facts.
Let me leave you with this:

Peace and kindness. Namaste.
Signed,
GOLDY.
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TUA Unpopular opinions?
Don’t get me wrong, i love the show but there are a few things that i dont like/ dont make sense to me so i wanted to have a little rant about it but im gonna do it under a read more so you all dont have to listen to me ramble so,
Em’s TUA unpopular (?) opinions (about s1 maybe but mostly s2):
I personally felt like they dumbed down Diego and in s2, i dont understand how he went from being in love and absolutely devastated about patchs death and then just completely forget about her and suddenly become in love with lila in what? 70 days? to me it felt like a cop out way of introducing Lila to the hargreeves.
After 3 years sober klaus didn’t improve his powers at all??? like yeah we saw in the opening scene him using the ghosts to his advantage then that was it, there was no evident improvement to his powers except more control with ben. Surely hed be seeing more ghosts, having control over more ghosts or just anything,, but we didnt get that at all. I personally felt like he had more to do in s1 with his powers and we saw some great progression, we saw as he got sober when he was getting tortured he started seeing more ghosts then used them to his advantage and he literally died and came back to life.
At this point its becoming very inconsistent with him seeing the ghosts that hazel and cha cha have killed but not five??? or lila??? especially since he was sober (at least for a few days) in s1 and in s2 he just didn’t see any ghosts other than ben?
The writers keep writing Five out when its convenient to them and its just becoming,,, anoying?? theyve made him too powerful but instead of actually letting him use his powers with his siblings they just send him away to do something else when if he was there it would be completely avoidable. and when hes actually in these fight scenes they dumb him down, hes the most efficient assassin ever, hes the best assassin ever yet whenever hes in one of these fight scenes they make him do some very untatical skills that he just wouldn’t do
Number5theboy did a very good post about this
Allison has such a huge potential as a character and its frustrating how much her character is basically nothing like her comic character. some people may be happy about the fact shes nothing like her character but it just?? doesnt sit right with me. She was a bad bitch in the comics yet the only similarities from comic to tv was her relationship with luther (which in the comic she rumours him to being in love with her, not even them just being in love), her daughter and that she got her throat slit by vanya.
and to be honest she is a bit of a bitch in the comics and i really wanted to see more of that, like i appreciate her story development in the show but i wanted to see her and five and the whole story line of her and him and the involvement in JFK, i wanted to see that development in their relationship, her getting her voice back because of Five and the commission, her having some involvement with his assasination
now i know that they would not be able to make her pretend to be jackie, physically it would not happen but there could of been all sorts they could of done but instead they just wrote it all out and it peeved me off
it would of completely changed some of the sibling dynamics and it would be super interesting for diego have to deal with the fact his own sibling killed JFK
Five not eating carmicheal, there was other ways they couldve gotten lila to find the files and they ripped a great scene from the show to give it to a character that wasnt even in the comics
the fact that Five didn’t shoot vanya in the head and say “I never liked you” because he would be trying to break her powers basically, then vanya loosing all her memories when they travelled, five could do the whole be soft and then him saying “you really dont remember anything, do you?” and then her regaining her memory, i think it would be great personally
also five just being a dick, because he is in the comics, and i know its not the comics but if he’d of had the scene before him and allison go to the commission he opens up to allison about his commission time
im a gazelle and the jungle is my home is an iconic line and was yet again missed out
a topic i am affraid to talk about, lila: (this may be kinda long)
i do not like lila as a character, i dont like how she treats diego and exploits him and acts like everything is fine (she drugged and kidnapped him??!!??) and what the fuck are her powers
her entire character doesnt make sense, they just needed someone powerful to fight vanya and five
when did she even have the time to figure out her powers, Five clearly does not recognise her and neither do the other siblings so theres no chance she was able to practice during the commission because Five obviously wasnt around. And then she can just use them perfectly??? doesnt make sense to me
and i know some people love lila but she just grates me the wrong way
and now the writers have came across another problem of making her too powerful for her own good
and there was no clear build up to her powers, i wish they wouldve just introduced a new power because it would be so much less confusing
where does she fit in the timeline as well because five went on that mission with the handler but then just wasnt around for the next 25ish years when she was raising her???
the writers have bitten off more than they can chew with her i think and i will be very impressed if they somehow manage to pull it off
she just felt very random and forced into the show in my opinion
The fact that no one mentions fives actual open wounds that he probably still has, last i checked an actual shrapnel wound doesnt heal in what? 14 days? but they just ignored it i guess
in s1 Five not getting reggies monocle, just having diego throw it into the ocean im?? like why?? for what???
luther being in love with allison feels very slightly one sided when in the comic she!! rumoured!!! him!!!!
she basically didnt use her powers for anything useful and when she was about to lila used her power of imitation??? to rumour allison instead
kinda what i talked about earlier but five being the main plot driver until its inconvenient to the writers and then they make him dumb it frustrates me to no end
i just dont understand why they couldnt have lila with a brand new power, not just mimicking because it doesnt make sense and then she has the ability to use it perfectly when she wouldnt actually have any experience in using it??? if the writers are literally going to add christopher the cube they could of given her a better power
all the siblings basically just dismiss five, all the time, the only sibling through the show who have actually done something for five is Klaus in s1 when he literally smashed a snowglobe into his head for five and didnt even know why they were there. Even when luther goes with five he straight away sides with older five and like?? i understand it was a funny thing to add in but even then like its just odd
young five and old five not really having the same energy, its really minor but the five in s1 does not match the energy of old five in s2 when hes just about to go to 2019
these are all just my opinion and just something i wanted to get off my chest, if you dont agree with these its completely valid.
#something i wanted to get off my chest#its a lot#i love the show but these things have just grated me the wrong way#and yeah some of them are unpopular i think whoops
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<<Over the past year, however, Google has appeared to clamp down. It has gradually scaled back opportunities for employees to grill their bosses and imposed a set of workplace guidelines that forbid “a raging debate over politics or the latest news story.” It has tried to prevent workers from discussing their labor rights with outsiders at a Google facility and even hired a consulting firm that specializes in blocking unions. Then, in November, came the firing of the four activists. The escalation sent tremors through the Google campus in Mountain View, Calif., and its offices in cities like New York and Seattle, prompting many employees — whether or not they had openly supported the activists — to wonder if the company’s culture of friendly debate was now gone for good.
(A Google spokeswoman would not confirm the names of the people fired on Nov. 25. “We dismissed four individuals who were engaged in intentional and often repeated violations of our longstanding data-security policies,” the spokeswoman said. “No one has been dismissed for raising concerns or debating the company’s activities.” Without naming Berland, Google disputed that investigators pressured him.)>>
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/02/18/magazine/google-revolt.html
<<“Of the five people that were fired, three of us are trans women,” Spiers said. “That is either an unbelievable coincidence or Google is targeting the most vulnerable.”
“Trans Googlers make up a very small percentage of Googlers,” she added. “They make up a slightly larger percentage of organizers, but not 60%.”>>
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/17/fifth-google-worker-activist-fired-in-a-month-says-company-is-targeting-the-vulnerable
i too am transfem and would "violate longstanding data-security policies" if my organization were being unjust. i wouldnt say that unless it were already obvious by what bits ive leaked to people about my life, because otherwise i could suppress this information and whistleblow more.
if you were an evil corp at this point youd probably try to avoid hiring any trans women in the first place because given this happens to you, its likely done by a transfem. not that this saved CFAR, who never hired a trans woman, from having a bunch of transfems whistleblow on them despite not being employees.
from what ive read from transfem google employees who are or were involved in activism, the degredation of google's culture. their complicity with ICE and weapons manufacturing mirrors CFAR's with OpenAI and DeepMind; authoritarianism and expulsion of transfems who object to this among a myriad of wrongs. to protect the territory of injustice and complicity with organizations like ICE, google needs to import "a consulting firm that specializes in blocking unions", CFAR needs to violate their whistleblower policy. if you once protect injustice, justice is ever after your enemy. morality isnt some modular thing such that you can be comitted to protecting injustice and not have this choice spiral into also invoking and protecting systems that protect injustice and invoking further things to protect those, recursively. all the way down to doing really dumb and obvious unjust things like transmisogyny (lots of future posts), changing your fundraiser after its clear its losing money, announcing that this year you got way below your donation target and claim to have no idea why.
well *i* know the compact generator for all of these things, and that makes me strong. unlike MIRI/CFAR who like the CDC rely on gaslighting the populace for myopic gains. i also wore a particle mask during the time that the CDC claimed that they were useless to preventing spread of disease, so it was really important to give them to doctors and nurses.
after so much gaslighting, *i* have built up general capabilities at arbitraging the difference between what agents claim and the truth. people who say:
<<Edit: This is a type of post that should have been vetted with someone for infohazards and harms before being posted, and (Further edit) I think it should have been removed by the authors., though censorship is obviously counterproductive at this point.
Infohazards are a real thing, as is the Unilateralists’s curse. (Edit to add: No, infohazards and unilateralist’s curse are not about existential or global catastrophic risk. Read the papers.) And right now, overall, reduced trust in CDC will almost certainly kill people. Yes, their currently political leadership is crappy, and blameworthy for a number of bad decisions—but it doesn’t change the fact that undermining them now is a very bad idea.
Yes, the CDC has screwed up many times, but publicly blaming them for things that were non-obvious (like failing to delay sending out lab kits for further testing,) or that they screwed up, and everyone paying attention including them now realizes they got wrong (like being slow to allow outside testing,) in the middle of a pandemic seems like exactly the kind of consequence-blind action that lesswrongers should know better than to engage in.
Disclaimer: I know lots of people at CDC, including some in infectious diseases, and have friends there. They are human, and get things wrong under pressure—and perhaps there are people who would do better, but that’s not the question at hand.>>
https://www.greaterwrong.com/posts/h4vWsBBjASgiQ2pn6/credibility-of-the-cdc-on-sars-cov-2/comment/uDYbgf3QtEQirbsJk
havent. its easy to see how peoples minds are warped when its someone elses glowy thing, when its someone elses friends working for an institution that that someone else routed their hopes through.
its easier to recognize betrayal and see knowledge beyond the veil when its happening to someone else, instead of you.
until you build up general skills for recognizing it, this sort of betrayal isnt infinitely powerful. and like how you might expect that smart people who live for predation would do anti-inductive smart predatory things, but they end up converging on child sex rings; institutions that betray you, because justice is their enemy will start doing dumb unjust things like banning two people from speaking about their irl experiences with anna salamon, saying their first-hand accounts werent evidence and then citing anna salamon's first-hand account of the meeting as evidence. when i objected that this was a fucked up self-serving ontology of "evidence" they acted like i was objecting to "beliefs flow from evidence" and they acted as if what i was saying was obscure and beyond their ability to comprehend. their "incomprehension" was fake, downstream of a fear to dynamically compute things in front of other people that might end up outside the orthodoxy. the result of which is they display a blue screen of death and say “i just dont understand and aaa dont explain this to me!!!”. and then people agree that it "seems like it could be an infohazard" because when your goal is the preservation of the matrix, everything that tears it down looks like hazardous information.
or a cfar employee, in response to claims that anna's transmisogyny influences CFAR's hiring choices, claiming that anna salamon, head of CFAR, is not involved in CFAR's hiring. until i post proof from another CFAR employee pursuing personal vengeance against the org for hiring their rapist where its tangentially mentioned and they suddenly "realize" that anna salamon, head of CFAR, is involved in CFAR's hiring process.
or a thousand other injustices that have burned themselves into my brain during my months of talking with people under the assumption that they were simply mistaken in their path to saving the world. when they were actually un-mistaken in their path to having babies and a low chance of personal death. hoping and expecting someone else will take heroic responsibility for the planet.
like when you drill down to the base of injustice, it bottoms out in dumb and petty injustice. like the structure doesnt go infinitely high and complex, if you go down to the base level, you just need a bit of courage to not flinch away from what you see even if it seems that it means the ruin of something you ran your hopes and dreams through.
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"isnt this a little... extreme?" i hear some people ask. ""dont protect regions of injustice?" that sounds like the end product of obsessive compulsive fixation on virtue at the expense of practicality."
well, assuming the algorithm seeding this response is a systemic reasoning tool, it should forkbomb when you consider if youd output ""dont protect regions of untruth?" that sounds like the end product of obsessive compulsive fixation on virtue at the expense of practicality." in response to eliezers essay. the principle behind both is the same such that if you hold by one you should hold by the other.
all of these things have parallels. if you want to see what is happening with MIRI/CFAR, theres a lot of mutual information with whats happening with Google.
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okay to talk about EXACTLY HOW i would handle giving charon a big good boss fight and also sympathetic backstory and redemption and all that jazz
there are approximately ten million words beneath the cut, and also ten million raspberries in my shampoo, and these charon thoughts are just as sweet as that
alright so ALREADY i kinda did feel like he was sort of a friendly enemy when i first played the game?? like his Thing of being the constantly never fightable dude actually was kind of sympathetic in a way. it always just felt like he was Chilling Out and not giving much of a shit about being evil and also had nothing personal against you the player. he doesnt follow any of cyrus’s big philosophy and he’s clearly only here for the money and really phoning it in, and that kinda makes him not your enemy at all, even though he’s on the team youre fighting. Like I always found it a good establishing moment that in the Valley Windworks when they first introduce “hey this time there’s two galactic teammates here” and all, CHARON IS STANDING DIRECTLY IN EYELINE OF YOU RUINING EVERYONE’S PLANS. he’s just standing there! and of course he’ll never do anything to warn mars about you, the game just isnt programmed that way. but it fits really well with his character if you think of it as an intentional thing? just imagine this random gramps sitting there drinking tea while all his teammates actually Care About Things and Use Effort. He’s always criticizing team galactic’s plan too and like WHY IS HE DOING THAT TO YOU if not because Nintendo Wants Him To Be My Best Friend ok. Like he doesn’t fuckin trust anyone on his team so why would he spill the beans about his big secret plans he has to make money off of this villain plan and then bail before they actually do all the dumb shit with legendaries and such. Yes ok its PROBABLY just because its a videogame and they need to exposit stuff to the player that the character is probably just thinking and not saying out loud. But wouldnt it be so much better this way!!!! Also even when you finally face off against him personally in the postgame for his actual dumb money plan he’s still like ‘lol fourth wall breaking time im gonna not have a boss battle cos if you beat cyrus’s ass i aint got no chance’. Dammit nintend i still wanted to fight him but thats endearing so i cant stay mad at u! And he has several lines during it with stuff like “i like seeing children trying so hard BUT YOURE TOO LATE” and “youth like you can live in idealism but for me its all about the money”. Like man u remember that time i had a big angry rant about how his manga version was super OOC cos they didnt just choose to make him eviler but made him murder a child? like the only time anything involving children is mentioned in canon its him being mildly more polite to children!!! MILDLY FRIENDLY! LET ME HAVE THIS...
okay so YEAH the first big change would be just giving him more screentime and more fleshed out character in these early scenes. Make him a full on friendly character who is technically on the opposite side but has no beef with you and no loyalty to the greater plan of his team. So he’s just comically like “oh hi again! yeah lol today’s plan sucks huh?” and makes idle conversation while the main character villain admin of the day is actually doing important plot stuff. like have him along for everyone’s scenes not just mars at the start, dissappear for hours until the very end. And yes definately keep the thing of the game constantly lampshading that he’s a new character for the third version of the game, and everyone in the team thinks he’s useless and forgets he’s even there. it was annoying in the original game cos he actually didnt get any love from the writers themselves, but yknow you could give him an expanded role and rewrite that stuff to be more like “oh poor guy he’s the underdog”, yknow? am i the only one who felt inherantly sorry for him?? i mean he’s a tiny grandpa!!! and he looks so sad on his official art!! Oh oh and also add the additional running jokes and expanded characterization he had in his very brief anime appearance, which was honestly the only well written part of the entire team galactic arc. It fleshed out a bit of his relationship with jupiter who never really appeared alongside him in the game except to say “im not teaming up with you” at the end. Having the context that she finds him annoying cos she’s very serious and also very dedicated to cyrus so she hates this opportunistic bastard pretending to be dedicated when its an obvious lie. And also she thinks his laugh is obnoxious XD Oh also I liked how they expanded upon that one scene of Saturn being sarcastic at gramps and made it into an actual thing that him and charon most often work together and have a mutually sassy dynamic. I found it humanizing that anime saturn is very serious but can comically overreact to very minor teasing from this grandpa! I thought that was better than the games where he’s just serious or the manga where he was 100% changed to be 100% silly and kinda stole charon’s personality for reasons i will never understand.
ANYWAY! IN SUMMARY! show scenes of charon being endearing by being not really interested in the big evilness, being underdog-y by always failing at his smaller evilnesses and getting disrespected, and also maybe drop in some more interpersonal relationships between the admins to hint that charon does indeed have some friendship going on even if he’s a tsundere bitch who’d never admit it. Also maybe the other thing from the anime where they made him a cool computer guy? cos srsly it was lazy that the games just said “he’s the science” and never clarified wtf he actually does at his job. cos cyrus is already a science boss??? he kinda already did most of the big sciencey plans?? why does he need this man if its not for mechanical or legendary pokemon stuff OK HEY MAYBE COMPUTERS! also its funny to imagine him being a memey blogger but sun and moon actually made faba canonically that so i dont think you could improve on him. TAKE NOTES FROM BEAN MAN, NINTENDO
Also maybe you could hint at the rotom backstory before it actually happens? like could just show some mild implications that he is sad, cos the ‘friendly enemy’ thing would already be decent foreshadowing for him potentially having a soft spot. “Wah i am an emotionless evil money man” says local villain, while gossipping with Dawn about his coworkers and sharing lemon squares. But like I mean i don’t really want him to be LITERALLY that, i still like him being grumpy and guarded about his secret good heart. I’m just saying “friendly” as in.. sort of a disconnect between what he says his personality is and how he actually acts. The stuff he actually says is very grumpy but like.. hey he’s saying stuff to you when he doesnt need to, and nobody else on this team is casually talking to you as if youre not an enemy. Like he’s SUBCONCIOUSLY friendly and doesnt realise it? He’d never SAY “i am lonely hello please talk to me” but he’d sure as hell walk over to you and talk to you anyway. About grumpy things! Grumpily! And maybe express occasional compliments in a sort of “haha im surrounded by idiots you’re way more down to earth than all these adults who act more like children”. Cos in that fourth wall breaking moment he has, he respects that you’re a badass and decides thats why he’s not gonna have a boss fight. “You’d just kick my ass, so lol fight these grunts instead while i run away and do my evil plan” That is the kind of sympathetic charon i want!! He’s doing a douchey thing by breaking the script of how boss battles work and making everyone else fight you instead even though he knows that they’ll lose. But he’s also likeable because breaking the script of boss battles is unexpected and comedic! And he’s also accidentally being complimentary to you so its like SIMULTANEOUS JERK AND NICE AT THE SAME TIME. Thats the good stuff!! That quality grumplegramp content!!! if he got redeemed and just 100% changed his personality to lose all the sass and sneakyness then that’d be boring yo...
OKAY WHERE WAS I? Okay hey once you’ve established that, maybe now you have a basis for the sad foreshadowing!! Like you could have one scene where he’s suddenly NOT friendly, he’s not just grumpy in the funny sort of way but actually seems cold and stoic and actually does something useful to the team’s mission or whatever. Sort of a ‘whoa what’s wrong with him today’ thing and it could be subtle cos on the first playthrough you’d just think he was being a jerk cos he’s a jerk and all. but maybe it happens on a scene of team galactic doing some evil plan in eterna forest/other place that’d potentially relate to the rotom sidequest. like he’s just really fuckin depressed to be reminded of his one big failure in life. OH maybe it could actually be at the unnamed junkyard thats mentioned in his backstory but doesnt actually feature as an area in the original game? It could make sense that it’d be part of their plan cos team galactic attacks various energy sources and other technology related places to find the stuff they need to make the big world erasure machine. could just be simply them robbing some old generator parts after their attempt to take the whole power plant failed.
Oh and also maybe add a lil something to his last scene at the galactic lab? Cos like.. what we already have in the game has potential to be a moment where he did a good thing but no its not. Like when you look at it, hey he kinda helped you out here by being all “hey lol saturn the kid is here, bye im not stopping u, feel free to take the lake trio”. Even if saturn is the one who actually SAID feel free to take the lake trio and actually had a good hint at redemptiveness moment and all. Please never take that away, that was good, you just coulda had both of them do it, yknow? And we dont wanna make charon go full good guy all of a sudden when he hasnt even finished his characetr arc, so instead make it more of a moment where its like “im a bad guy but this is going too far”. Like maybe ACTUALLY HAVE A PAYOFF for the foreshadowing that he has no loyalty to cyrus and is blatantly plotting to betray him at some point. He never actually did!! He only tries to capitalize on cyrus already being defeated in an entirely optional sidequest that fails at delivering a proper payoff.
So hey! My idea! Add some complexity here by making it clear that charon is evil in a more petty and mundane way and not in a.. like.. actually dangerous way. Once things start getting actually dangerous he starts chickening out! Like he’s a jerk who does mean things to get money but he’s just MEAN and not friggin murderous or worldending. Give him a moment of “oh shit cyrus was actually serious oh god how do i get off of this train”. Like it seemed that he never really believed that team galactic would ever truly create a new world, and he certainly didnt give a shit about it, he just thought he found an easy opportunity for a paycheck in some dumbass’s deluded plan that’d never really work. But OOPS i guess it actually is happening, oh fuck! Give him a bit of a crisis where he realizes what he actually helped this man do, but not like a full on “everything ive ever done is bad and i dont wanna be evil anymore”. Not YET! Just friggin.. “oh fuck i cant spend money if the universe doesnt exist and also i am dead”. “PLEASE HELP ME CHILD, CYRUS IS GONNA TAKE AWAY THE MONEY!!” xD It’d be fitting for his character and a good light moment of comic relief after the emotional and dark stuff happening around this section of the game. Like he already kinda does that by having that scene of saturn snarking at him, but it could be even more funny! Move the first him and saturn bickering scene to earlier on and have this be like a satisfying scene of saturn actually winning? cos in the anime it was always charon being smug and making fun of him while saturn gets all grumpy about it, now it could be the reverse with smug charon having a breakdown and realising his whole money plan is in shambles and its his own fault.
Also maybe it could have additional payoff with Charon actually helping you take down cyrus? Again, not actually because he’s switched sides but because he's still evil but evil for different reasons than cyrus. That good ‘reluctant teamup with minor goofy villain to take down big actually scary villain’ thing. With the added bonus that the minor goofy villain is objectively a worse person than the scary villain and the scary villain is still redeemable, as opposed to in the manga where they used this same trope in the form of “cyrus is good now and we’re making charon the big scary villain to prove how good cyrus is cos charon is worse”. That was dumb. It was especially dumb cos WHY ON EARTH would you pick charon for this??? like they still had moments of him being comedic and wimpy yet at the same time wanted us to believe he was legitimately threatening? ANYWAY my idea for this is that charon’s computer skills could pay off and it could be something like “oh i always put a failsafe kill switch in my computer just in case i need to grab the money and run”. Like him being a paranoid untrusting selfish asshole was actually the reason he was able to save the day! Also it would explain why cyrus’s machine only fails and summons giratina in platinum version. the manga actually did say that charon sabotaged the machine so thats one actually good thing that came from it! Congrats u filled one plothole while making twenty more XD
OH and perhaps this same section could also foreshadow the rotom thing? like I was thinking about how he could actually choose to give up and let you take the lake trio and have it still be 100% in character. It could be an extension of his “shit, i didnt think things would get this serious, please save me from the consequences of my own actions!” moment. Cos I think that any normal dumb greedy money man would still be horrified at the idea of mutilating a thousand year old majestic unicorn of mythology and then flushing it down the toilet when it outlives its uselessness. Like he doesnt do it because he wants to help you save the day or anything, just cos the idea of killing the lake trio is just too evil for even him. It could be kind of a meaningful moment about how cyrus is doing all this for good reasons yet they caused him to do these actions that are even more evil than the actual dude with evil motives. And maybe you could establish this through a scene of him and cyrus inetracting, which could also help amp up how intimidating cyrus is, in preparation for the big climax? Have charon trying to wimp out of “disposing of the useless specimens”, but cyrus is having none of it. Like it could start off funny with him making up loads of other excuses cos there’s no way he’d admit he’s having Feelings and all. “Wait but let me have them! if theyre useless to you then i can just sell them right?? ha ha thats the only reason im saying this, lol you know me i’d never be swayed by any sentiment” But cyrus sees through it instantly and gets right up in his face like fuckin Raw Cold Fury, no you are NOT going to disobey me. He is PISSED OFF because the only reason he kept this useless senile old bat around is because he’s the only one in this group who isn’t a simpering moron at the mercy of their pitiful heart. If you can’t even do that, then what’s the use of you? So everything charon tries fails and all he accomplishes is getting fired on the spot for even TALKING ABOUT defying his boss. And cyrus just orders saturn to dispose of the lake trio instead. Saturn of course is smarter and says nothing in defiance, but then the both of them work together to let you take the pokemon and just act like they failed to stop you rather than doing it on purpose. And its kind of an uncharacteristically quiet and intense moment between these dudes that are usually at each other’s throats with funny banter. They’re united for a moment but for very different reasons. Charon knew that cyrus wasnt a good guy from the very beginning and he just underestimated him, and is now feeling in over his head and worried this could be the end. And saturn always thought cyrus was good but is starting to struggle with doubts. And maybe charon actually tries to warn saturn about it? Like “hey i knew this all along but i never told you but HEY CYRUS MIGHT ACTUALLY KILL US ALL” and saturn starts on his usual speech about cyrus being the greatest but he starts to question it and AAAAA! but ultimately this moment isnt the moment where he makes the right choice, and he does end up going back to cyrus and continuing the plan. and also charon is on the edge of actually doing something good and trying to stop cyrus’s big ol doom time (albiet for selfish reasons of No Money In The New World) but he also wimps out from this chance and instead decides to grab as much cash as he can and run the fuck away, as if its even possible to outrun the destruction of a whole dimension. but at least him and saturn agreed on the lake trio rescue operation, thus their moment of almost-redemption helped the player even if they didnt actually turn good. AND then you’d have the surprise moment of charon actually stepping up at the last minute and doing his thing to sabotage the machine and all. which again doesnt really solve the whole thing and doesnt really make him turn good but at least it downgrades the threat from ‘cyrus actually succeeds in destroying the world’ to ‘okay we just need to deal with a slight case of poke-hell and one collossal centipede’. Srsly man sinnoh’s plot has the highest stakes cos in platinum you straight up actually fail and cyrus actually would have destroyed the world if not for giratina! Oh and also a random note is that i think it’d be funny if charon helped you out while still running away? like you just learn about the machine sabotage being his responsibility cos it flashes his goofy hacker logo from the anime or something. Maybe instead he hacks your Poketch and is like HEY HELLO IM GONNA SPLODE THE THING BUT NOT COS IM A GOOD GUY, BTW I AM A SAFE DISTANCE AWAY PLEASE DONT LET CYRUS KNOW I DID THIS
SO YEAH! whatever! whether or not we get that added bit of teamup with charon in the climax, we’ve still given him a bit more screentime so the player actually remembers him and actually cares about doing his optional sidequest in the postgame. so him not having a boss fight would be less of a letdown and all. But having the teamup plot would be a good opportunity to turn the wifi event into not a wifi event! maybe during his panic charon drops the key to his secret lab and thats how you get it? cos really it makes no sense at all that the magic wifi gods can just hand you something you’d have no idea existed and never have an opportunity to get. none of the other wifi items are literally a thing owned by a significant character that needs to be teleported out of his pocket by plot magic! Also it sucks that a chunk of important backstory would be hidden in a wifi event so if they still wanted rotom’s alt forms to be a wifi event then JUST make it the ability to get the forms and not the charony diary bit. Cos it makes no sense that the ENTIRE REASON CHARON EXISTS is to introduce the rotom form event yet you’d have no clue he was connected to rotom until after youve already finished the event. It gave no damn indication you had to take the key to this particular dude’s lab in team galactic!! ANd click on an otherwise unmarked wall!! Put the diary somewhere else and hey there’s a Charon Clue(tm) and now you can actually find the damn event, there you go, fixed. Also annoying cos nothing in the event tells you you have to go somewhere entirely different to catch the one rotom in the game, and click another unmarked piece of scenery that only has a staticky screen to indicate rotom if you happen to be playing at night. Seriously this is why serebii.net was such a lifesaver!!
Okay so WOOP there we go, here we are at a point where the player has seen more of charon and had oppotunities to grow to like him as a character and be suspicious that maybe he could have some sympatheticness. And if he drops an Importante Key Itemme right before the end of the game then thats a hint that postgame stuff exists involving him, and at least one clue where to find it! All the rotom diary stuff would play out exactly the same except that its less of a hell to find, lol.
BUT THEN the big difference in Stark Mountain is that now you have the full context of charon’s backstory and the game actually reacts to you having that knowledge. Like maybe if you dont do that step first then either charon never appears at stark mountain until you do, or you get an abbrieviated version of the quest without the redemption plot? I was thinking actually maybe make it one of those daily repeatable quests, to avoid the player doing the quests out of order and permenantly losing the chance to redeem gramps. Like if you dont see the rotom diary then instead of a big actual quest you just get some five minute “oh we’ve seen team galactic sneaking around stark mountain, defeat them for Some Money Or Something hey thats weird that they were only stealing money hey yknow who’s all about the money? charon! maybe go follow up on his Importante Key Itemme to continue the plot.”
SO THEN once you return Emboldened By The Knowledge Of Good Gramps, you get the proper thing. And... it would actually play out totally the same as in vanilla platinum. Charon doesn’t have a boss fight, all his minions leave him and say he sucks, he gets anticlimactically taken out by someone else in a cutscene, and his last moment is someone making a crack about him being so frail and useless that the hot volcano breeze could knock him over.
BUT THAT ISNT THE END
Its just a fake out that its gonna have the same funny ending as every other charon appearance, and the same lack of him being remotely threatening.
cos NOW WE FINALLY GIVE THE MAN A GODDAMN BOSS FIGHT
and yknow how i said i hate the manga where he’s all super evil and owns three legendaries and kills a guy? okay take away all that stuff but KEEP THE MOMENT OF GRANDPA GETTING TO DO SOMETHING BADASS FOR THE ONLY TIME EVER
Maybe he surprises everybody by actually not being down for the count! And by now he’s just SO pissed off from a whole game’s worth of failing and being disrespected that he does something desperate and stupid at the last minute. If he was meant to be the dude who invented the red chain, maybe he could use it to control heatran even if looker took away the magma stone? like i feel it’d be in character for charon to secretly steal a prototype red chain for himself during the whole “oh fuck my boss is legit destroying the world i need to get out of here” thing. Grab some stuff to sell now your last paycheck is dissappearing into an ominous void, lol. He didnt expect to actually be using it, and if the actually completed red chain puts enough stress on its weilder to make them cry blood then this thing must be even more risky to use! so its a really huge holy shit moment of tiny gramps actually doing something intimidating! and his boss fight could actually be using heatran and actually having heatran get to goddamn appear in this sidequest. it was soooo underwhelming to have to return thru the dungeon a second time to actually see heatran, this time without any story stuff to break up the long walk...
also this entire thing could be a great climax to his character arc and sort of a moment of “okay THIS was actually his motivation all along!” Cos I always felt like Charon’s real motive was low self confidence? Like he’s always on about money but he seems to focus more on SUCCESS instead. Fame and success. “Ha ha i am the greatest scientist and i want people actually aknowledge me” is a thing he repeatedly brings up and also that other characters directly demonstrate in how they act towards him. It just feels like he thinks he can buy that with money if he’s failed his whole life in earning it. And the old “acts egotistical because he actually hates himself” character archetype would work really well as a sympathetic interpretation of his character. It would be like how he’s ‘subconciously friendly’. The thing he actually does (being boastful) is because of a different reason (not believing his own lies and being super insecure about his self worth), but he keeps it so well hidden that not even he realises that its really what he feels. Similar to how he acts grumpy because of a different reason, because he actually DOES want friends and he’s just guarding his emotions under a million walls cos he’s scared of being hurt again. And scared of how he knows he’s a weak willed person who might betray his friends again for his desperation for money. Which is really a desperation to feel valid as a human being, which is really just ‘i want friends’ again under another coat of paint. So depressingly he caused his own problems because of the same character trait that was once a positive in his life! I think he works well when interpreted from that angle, he’s like a dark subversion of a pokemon professor or of your classic ash ketchum figure. Like “the power of friendship” is what turned him evil, and also turned him into a guy who acted awful to his friends. And it could add to this thematic thing if “loving pokemon” was also referenced throughout his plot in a negative sense?
That’s actually one other good thing about the manga, they removed his greedy grumpyness (bad) but replaced it with the same motive as the villain of the 2nd movie (weird flex but okay). Aka “a guy who collects legendary pokemon just as trophies and has forgotten how to treat them like genuine friends”. Even if that wouldnt be his main character concept in this hypothetical rewritten game, it could still be a secondary trait that’s used to suppliment the main emotional arc. Like instead of just saying “money money money” you could flesh out more scenes of him actually talking about HOW he’s gonna get the money and what he’s gonna use it for. Via collecting all the rare pokemon, and to collect more rare pokemon. Which will somehow (in his twisted cynical perception of how the world works) make him a person of value and get people to respect him. It could also tie together pretty much every scene he already has! Cos his backstory is finding this pokemon friend... who was a rare unknown species. And maybe as a kid he decided to become a scientist initially just out of excitement to learn more about his new friend and show them to the world! But then the realities of the difficulties in being respected as a scientist gradually wore him down and he became more cynical, more obsessed with recognition, more believing that the only way to get it was by being an asshole and he’d just get taken advantage of if he kept being soft. And he started to forget why he really wanted that fame in the first place, and instead it just became an obsession, a vain hope that he’d hate himself less if he accomplished his life’s dream. When really from the player’s perspective its obvious that even if he succeeded he’d still be depressed when he realized how he’d lost everything in the process. And it’d be a more realistic sort of way he could have turned from a good kid to an asshole gramps. There wasnt any single day he suddenly made the decision to change, it was just a gradual wearing down of his morals over the years. he became more obsessed and more cynical that normal moral ways of doing things would never get him what he wanted. he started making small sacrifices to his personal sense of morality, and eventually reached the point where he’d completely abandoned it all without even noticing the gradual change. And somewhere along the way he forgot that he started this because of his pokemon friend, and discarded it as “not good enough” in favor of this vain quest to acquire a million other rarer pokemon and just friggin put them on a shelf to boast about them and feel less empty inside. And then also his redemption was a gradual change too? After he reached that point of completely betraying his own sense of goodness, he gradually got sadder and more tired with living this way. By the time you see him ingame he’s not remotely happy with being evil and he’s just a poor dude who’s deluded that being evil is the only way to escape the sadness rather than the cause of it. And thats why his whole ‘oops im accidentally subconciously befriending my coworkers and also the enemy’ thing kinda set him on the road to eventual redemption, cos its the first bit of small upliftingness he’s had in ages. sorta recharges his Ability To Care and he starts realizing what he’s doing and feeling regret. But yeah throughout the main game he never actually acts on his doubts and just repeatedly misses the chance to get redeemed and makes you Kinda Frustrated, similar to zuko or peridot’s redemptive arc? And ultimately reuniting him with his old best friend and showing him that its not too late to fix what he broke = the actual catalyst for his changes to fully stick and he completely switches to the good side.
BUT ANYWAY thats why he needs a boss fight first!
Something like 50-70 years worth of self hate and frustration from devoting himself to a super incorrect way of defeating that self hate, and sacrificing EVERYTHING for the sake of it, and being disrespected the entire time, and being terrified that you’re getting old and running out of time, and almost dying to some guy’s weird void plan, and losing the only thing you had left aka the team galactic job and a few maybe sorta kinda friends you had, and now being disrespected AGAIN by those same people you thought were friends (but never actually admitted it to them) and then also bitchslapped by a frog?? Also this place is real fuckin sweaty?? Yeah stark mountain is a great climactic point for his entire frustrations to boil over and be a bigger eruption than the actual volcano!
Thus we have Grand Dad Gets Serious And Has An Actually Interesting Boss Fight!
but also grand dad is being emotionally open and whoops accidentally might be tearing down those walls he built up around his big ol soft as fuck heart
like the battle would possibly be more ‘you talk him down into giving up, realizing he was wrong, quitting being evil, and going home to his friend that he misses so much. and finally realizing that thats actually the only way he could ever really defeat the self hate that drove him this far in the first place. also he’s not worthless and his friends always believed he was the awesome dude he always wanted to be’. Yknow, rather than actually defeating him and all. I mean you still do that but i think it’d be a case like with the giratina fight where even if you lose or run away you get the same result, just slightly altered text? Just as long as you come here with rotom in your party your victory was already a foregone conclusion. you just get a really cool boss fight as your reward, yknow? cos seriously I WAS WAITING THE WHOLE GAME FOR THAT DAMN BOSS FIGHT!!!
obligatory link again to the cool song i think is a great summary of all of my headcanons for this man’s character arc and would also be badass backing music for a hypothetical boss fight:
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context: it makes more sense if you imagine it as his own internal thoughts of all the stuff he’s been running away from accepting in his own feelings. and/or what he THINKS that the player and rotom would be saying to him, so he’s shocked into speechlessness by the fact that they actually do think he deserves a second chance and has the potential to be good.
actually that could be a really good ending to the fight!!!
like when you get through to him and convince him to stand down, he cowers in fear thinking he’s gonna get the karmic payback for everything he’s ever done. and he tries to run away from reuniting with rotom. half of him is scared that his friend hates him and the other half is.. well..
i think it would be thematically appropriate to end it with a hug
just an image of this lil toy robot pokemon hugging this scared old man, and he’s just so empty and doesnt know what to say. its the last thing he ever expected. and then his shock turns into pain and sadness, as he was really the most scared that his friend actually would forgive him. that everything he ever did really was all for nothing, and he should have done this years ago and saved all that lost time. he’s so scared because he thinks he doesnt deserve forgiveness and he doesnt know what to do now its happening. so he just lets out all those tears he’s never cried over all these years, and the scene ends with him desperately hugging his best friend and never wanting to let go ever again
And then that’d be the big moment that was really the turning point for him, though of course that wouldnt be the end of his redemption and if there was any further postgame content you could show various scenes of him atoning throughout that. or just some images in the second credits scene after you beat the postgame stuff. i’d kinda like if there was some moment of him apologising to the rest of team galactic and joining them in their attempts to rebuild the team into something good. and maybe an extra postgame segment where this redeemified team goes on some bigger quest to try and rescue cyrus from the distortion world and heal his pain too. i think you could get a lot of good scenes out of a redeemed charon being along for the ride! like you’d obviously have cyrus being skeptical that this dude really has changed so much, and probably an extension of that earlier scene where he’s pissed off that the one guy he thought agreed with him about emotions being foolish is actually being the most emotional of everyone. but i think because of that they could also have scenes of relating together and actually starting to form a friendship in the end? like i can see charon feeling guilty for never trying to reach out to cyrus before, and also believing really strongly that cyrus can be redeemed cos like ‘yo i’m way worse than you and i was able to change, please believe that its a possibility for you too!’ Also cyrus likes machines so i think he’d be happy to meet rotom and become friends. And he has that whole grandpa related backstory so it might help a lot towards healing those scars and reuniting the two of them if he starts forming a friendship with a different gramps? THERES A LOT OF GOOD THEMATIC LINKS BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT TEAM GALACTIC MEMBERS THAT ARE NEVER EXPLORED IN THE ORIGINAL GAME
also in the original version of this plotline it was a fanfic/fangame idea of an alternate universe swap where dawn/lucas/other customizeable protagonist is a galactic grunt instead of the hero. so a lot of the details were different but in that version the protag was literally adopted by whichever galactic admin they picked as their main friendship route. entirely because of self indulgent ‘i wish these guys were my dad/sister/grandpa/whatever’ feels cos sinnoh helped me thru a tough time as a kid. soooo i cant really do that charon grandpa idea where he also renovates the Old Chateau into a ghost pokemon sanctuary and becomes like an actual good pokemon professor. (also rekindles his friendship with prof rowan and agatha from the kanto elite four cos thats just a random headcanon i have) BUT i could still do all that except the part where he adopts u cos canon dawn/lucas already has a mom lol. And i think it’d be more fitting of canonverse protag to adopt Cyrus? Like obv in the canonverse itd probably be the main boss of the team who gets the bigger redemption plot and is canonically the best friend EVEN THO for tumblr user tumblunni in particular it is All Grandpas All The Time. And i like the idea of Cyboy being a survivor of child abuse who tries to become a good dad just like his parents werent. But i also like the idea of dawn’s mom adopting him as her new big brother and him getting to experience a genuine loving family for the first time! I think itd work that way cos cyrus is meant to be 27 even tho he looks older, and i dont think dawn’s mom is that young and also i just see no chemistry between them as any sort of ship. (and headcanon cyrus as asexual anyway) But also the family does still keep in touch with all the other galactic friends!!!
hhhh i wrote So Many Word just about grandpa redemption holy shit i’ll probably die if i try and cover all the other teammates now
ok i will leave it here but just know i also have Deep Headcanons about all of them, even if charon gets the most. somedaayayyyay i will share with you more!!
#commander charon#why. why am i like this#okay apparantly i have used that exact tag like 15 times already on this blog and im betting most of them were also about charon#please love charon
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this was really interesting and thankyou for giving me more of an insight to technos character. i am mostly a tommy viewer and i am in the process of rewatching all the dream smp stuff from several povs to try understand all the characters better and stuff, so feel free to correct me on anything im not aware of, im here for a discussion :]
however id like to point out one thing, “He never said it to the members of L'Manberg, so there is no way they knew about that“ i was actually quite shocked about this, and i went to rewatch one of the vods (this was from tommys vod) and yeah he didnt say hed come back, BUT he did say “ill kill everyone here, until theres no government” to their faces, which yknow.. is still a threat
so while i completely do not agree with the butcher army, what they did was wrong, they did feel threatened considering dream was breathing down their backs, what with tommy’s exile and just in general being a never-ending threat, they wanted to kill technoblade to assert some form of dominance and power, especially since he was still a potential threat in their eyes, and [at least as far as im aware] he didnt really announce he was going to retire to anyone other than phil and his audience, so the people of lmanberg only knew he was somewhere out there as a potential threat, and not changing his ways.
also, as for tommy and technoblade mutual betrayal [i dont see it as one sided, i think both sides hurt each other], its understandable techno felt betrayed, but techno betrayed tommy too, considering.. yknow, how not too long ago tommy was absolutely terrified of dream and techno literally helped hide him from dream and tommys worsened state, and then he turns around and helped dream destroy and fight lmanberg vs tommy and tubbo. both sides hurt each other that day.
also after finding out about tubbo and quackitys conversation about techno i now understand his anger more on nov 16th, i was primarily a tommy viewer during that arc [but i watched wilburs pov that day] and didnt know tubbo and quackity had explicitly stated they were using techno and “making a new government” because, from tommys pov [at least how i remember it] the “government” side of lmanberg never mattered, it was just about getting lmanberg back and getting rid of schlatt, “presidency” and all that never really seemed to matter, it was more of just a title and it was more of a “getting back what was ours” vibe? so from tommys pov it did seem like techno betrayed them, but seeing that from technos pov, i understand it more now.
although i do want to point out one thing. technoblade always seemed to blame “the new government and presidency” on tommy and tubbo seemignly Deciding To Have Government when.. it was wilbur who tells tommy to get on the podium and even calls him “president elect tommyinnit”, who then turns down the role of president and gives it back to wilbur who he believes to be the righful leader, because he had been since the beginning of lmanberg.
wilbur says “techno you taught me government is not the way to go” but just a few minutes earlier he had ASSIGNED tommy as the president??? [although we know now this was all just an excuse so that wilbur could then blow it all up because Mans Was Not Right In The Head] but.. techno didnt really say anything when wilbur suddenly announced tommy was president or smth idk its just very ?? and i am planning to watch his pov but from an outside pov it just seems so bizarre and sudden
its just that, something that bothers me about him is that he never seems to admit he might have done anything wrong? he always seems to justify himself and acts like the ultimate moral compass [once again, at least what it seems like from an outsider pov] without acknowledging that maybe hey... he was partly in the wrong about some stuff?
idk man im just trying to understand him more because i loved the bedrock bros dynamic that was so fun and i am SAD about their fall-out and i am forever in denial that they cant find an equal ground
its just that, tommy seems to realise that he did hurt techno and has apologised, but techno never seemed to even acknowledge he hurt tommy? idk, i am just sad
sorry for derailing halfway through and such a long post, i forgot the point i was trying to make because i was flipping between reading back on what you said and looking back on parts of the nov 16th vod so idk
i just want them to acknowledge each others feelings and reconcile please its all i want ueueueue
Broke: C!Technoblade loses his first canon life from a revenge plot / “to teach him a lesson” / “so he experiences consequences finally”
Woke: C!Technoblade loses his first canon life protecting a member of the Syndicate, because loyalty is something C!Techno holds above almost all else
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no offense but your 'right' to horde money is always secondary to someone's right to life (like. access to necessary resources) and i don't understand why that is an argument. your excess or desire for excess is not more important than ensuring everyone has access to necessities! 1) there are absolutely enough resources to go around and if you feel there is not, blame the super rich for hoarding them and not the poor for needing them. 2) ok u want ur liberty to not have to help other people or whatever. you have a flawed definition of liberty tho it's very American of you to say that. but consider: if you are upset about your liberty being infringed upon by. something like having to pay more taxes bc the government wants to provide easier and better access to healthcare for more people. your liberty is literally hinging on other people's lives. also. people that do not have good and easy access to resources don't have. what you see as liberty. before you can have liberty you must be able to live. (live well, like if u are poor and alive ur still alive so its necessary to make that distinction its just to note that when i say live i mean live comfortably. ) (and not just bc u are used to the status quo but bc u are able to get what you need when you need it and its not a luxury to do things like get regular check ups and eat salad) so you can talk about liberty but don't pretend like it is anything but selfish. you want what you think of liberty for yourself and not anyone else except who you personally deem eligible. you deny basic necessities to others so that you can live in excess. think of jt this way: you have 10 gallons of water. this is more than enough to last you until you are able to get more water. someone else has no water. the government tells you to share so that the other person will not die of dehydration. you refuse. they die. maybe you refused bc u care more about having stuff than people's lives or u refused bc u are perhaps concerned that there is not going to be enough to go around so you have to keep more than you need in case you are suddenly unable to obtain it with the same ease as earlier. in this case, you need merely to look over and see another person who has thousands of gallons of water. you may look at them and be impressed and want to be like them which is understandable bc we are taught to value excess and aspire to it more than we are taught to value human lives especially when we do not have an emotional investment in the specific lives. (we are also taught to value things above relationships so im saying this under the assumption most people have a small circle of people that they really care about and love) (we re taughto value ppwer over other people more than we are taught to value people as individuals even as they do not effect us on a level we percieve) but the important thing is. that person has more. you know there is a limited supply of the water you want (probably clean and drinkable) you know that that person has more water than they will ever need. recognize that they are the reason why you feel uncomfortable sharing your excess with those who have nothing. (((kill them, steal their water, redistribute))) ok. now you have addressed why the inequality in resource distribution exists. (well the person with nothing should've worked harder. ok um. using that logic. why do you not also have thousands of gallons of water? you obviously don't think you are a lazy mooch so why would you think that about someone with less than you?) you also know that bc of that, you feel safer the more water you have. ok yes now. why do you feel safer? bc water is a limited resource and you know another person has more (a larger fraction of the available resource) which makes less water available to you. this encourages you to collect and keep as much water as you can so you can feel secure in knowing you have and are going to have enough water to sustain yourself. it encourages you to experience a certain level of insecurity about your access to the water which makes you concerned about sharing your water resources with anyone else so you can be sure you will have water for you that fear, especially bc it is surrounding a scarce(limited) resource that is vital to your survival. especially bc (even though you don't know the exact fraction) you know that the other person has a much larger amount of water than they will need (likely more than they will use) and of that they are restricting the ability of others to access water at that moment and in the future. you recognize that this person holds a lot of power bc they have so much water. they can easily manipulate people who need and want more water to do their bidding in exchange for water either in order to survive or in order to own a large amount of the water for themself. to do anything. people that have no water are the most in need and so the most vulnerable and easily exploited. offering people in dire situations tiny barely liveable amounts of water in exchange for any kind or amount of labor for any duration does work and is easy for those who have extreme excess. they lose nothing of any significance and gain whatever product of the labor they forced the needy to perform. it is easy to view this problem in extremes, understanding how the super rich exploit the super poor (almost self explanatory how this system is perpetuated. will explain later tho) for whatever. but this sort of analysis, while good for illustrating the worst parts of resource hoarding neglects to provide an analysis of those in the middle. that is most people. being unable to empathize with those who have less than you is a symptom of this system(will detail later to be clear) and also serves to perpetuate it. (how it started is a different story but very briefly and in the vaguest way possible ot started the same way anything ever starts. entropy. but that's a little too astronomical and abstract for this explanation) this is one way this system affects the middle class. the relationship dynamic just described also explains the relationship of the upper class to the middle class. the upper class views the middle class in a similar way. 'those people should work harder to get where i am' 'im not worried about what they need bc i have what i want etc etc etc. this (flawed)logic is completely thrown out the wealthier someone gets. they just keep hoarding (maybe as a symbol of power and dominance, and also as just a conditioned habit. that's what u do that's wjat everyone does etc etc) this perspective however is not as harmful when only applied to the middle classes bc they are not in dire need. the middle classes dont have necessarily exorbitant amounts (although certainly to those with nothing the accumaltion of resources even a little beyond a liveable amount seems exorbitant and an act of gluttony and selfishness) (explaining the use of 'necessarily' and meaning of exorbitant in context) but they are not struggling to obtain vital resources either. their interest in accumulating more of a resource is either a product of feeling insecure in their position in society that determines their access to resources, a product of the idea more=better (this translates various ways. more=better. ok why do people want power what's the point. they get more resources and more security.) or just kind of a robotic motion people do and aspire to just bc. that's considered good and normal or whatever(i think this is just a practical example of those effects though) so often times it is ignored by those fighting for people with nothing. ((thats not to say this SHOULD have these effects it just does.)) which makes people in tje middle class feel left out and potentially unsure/insecure of their access to resources if/when the changes to allow people with nothing access to even some resources will change and how that change will ultimately affect them and their resources. (ideally this wouldnt be an issue and people would just agree to not let others die of preventable things but bc of society being the way it is this is what happens) (and i think acknowledging the struggles although relatively insignificant compared to what lower class people experience is a good way to support and encourage more people to support the revolution)( I don't think it SHOULD be something that needs to be explained in order for people to support the revolution but i think that it is needed) (also i fully fully recognize my privilege in being able to write this in hopes of convincing the middle class to be a part of this instead of being in a position where the only way i can get timely access to resources is by less carefulor even more forceful forms of convincing those with excess to give it up so that others can simply live) (anyway we have to explain how the revolution will affect the middle class) so. a lot of the resistance a middle class person feels when asked to give up their excess is due to the upper class and mega wealthy possessing and being able to access an incredibly larger percentage of any resource at anytime with very little fear that they will have that privilege revoked. the middle class is taught by the economic structure that that is the most efficient and secure way to be (essentially. selfish. unwilling to give up their excess to those with none) and they should strive to keep that status and position either in fear and anticipation of a change or with the desire to become more powerful. (power=access to resources) (creates hierarchies bc of demand) (someone owns all or a lot of a particular resource (always the super rich, a minority) and is able to sell it at any cost) in this way middle class feelings of insecurity are created by the super rich. (feelings of insecurity include the desire to be more powerful (u worry you aren't powerful enough etc)) much of that insecurity manifests in rage towards the people begging and bc they are so worried about protecting their OWN resources rather than recognizing even looking for or considering the reason why there are people with nothing which is that scarcity is manufactured by the rich hoarding. they become angry and resentful towards the beggars and choose and are taught to see the beggars as unequal/inhuman/undeserving of (at the most basic level: life) simply even the same treatment, respect and access to resources (vital and luxury) that the middle class has so that the middle class can protect their resources from being taken (ultimately) and focus on that instead of figuring out a solution to the issue and understanding the source. this perpetuates the system as it is and so perpetuates manufactured scarcity of vital resources which directly causes the death of many people. it is selfish ok yes and horrible im not calling you horrible I'm just trying to find a solution and create a better life for everyone. it's not the beggars fault u feel the need to hoard resources as much as you can it's not your fault you think like this but it is your fault you act on those thoughts and it is your responsibility to work to change it. and yeah it isn't fair you have to deal with a problem you had 0 part in creating but look. people are dying bc of that and if you refuse to help change the system you are allowing and contributing to their deaths. if all of the unnecessary deaths caused by manufactured scarcity could be evaluated by what percentage of their death was caused by the rich and middle classes, the rich would play a bigger part obvioisly than the middle class. this is not about who causes the most harm but about the fact that there is harm being caused. and the more members of the middle class willing to help lessen the amount of harm they do helps (concretely: directly saves lives) (abstract: contributes to revolution// revolutionary atmosphere/ acceptance/ understanding/exposure etc etc) firstly to save lives and secondly to take steps to begin to put a system in place which will ensure that people are not dying bc they can't get food or water or health care. and so working to create a more equal and sustainable and harmonic society. all around better. and by better i mean does the least amount of harm.
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I just want to say that I really admire the depth you put into your OC's and your confidence in talking about them! I'd like to learn more about them, but I'm on mobile and it isn't letting me search the tags, so... are there any W@tchtower Grotto characters you haven't talked much about that you'd want to talk about?
oh!! ;-; gee thank you.......................
uhhhhhhh gee idk why but it feels like i dont have an actual comprehensive post on who/what nana actually is bc most of my friends know him very well already? so here’s that
hes like... early 30s?? in terms of appearance/maturity, hes the godking of the country in midnight
nana is uh... certainly a rebel at his core thats one way to put it, a lot of core things about him for better or for worse challenge the status quo. he thinks this is a good thing 100% of the time, like he’s some kind of radical rebelling against an oppressive norm on every single norm he challenges. (its not)
he is RIDICULOUSLY people-smart, hes likely an empath and could easily be called a genius when it comes to reading people and understanding how people tend to work.
if he were a dnd character he’d be a sorceror, he casts from charisma not intelligence [though he is certainly NOT lacking in that department]
hes definitely considered the leader of his little commune of kings [involving desiderius, hachi and kyuun], those three tend to defer to him and seek him out for advice [well. they mostly Used to now its just hachi that does that last part]
he sees himself as a teacher and guide to people, which isnt inaccurate necessarily!
hes very good to his people, his country as a whole is doing pretty well financially, there’s a vibe there of everyone taking care of one another! not to mention the fact that its lovely visually
he’s right about most things and he’s comfortably aware of the fact that he’s right about most things. but hes open to being corrected! he cant possibly be right about everything ALL the time!! he just has to consider you an authority on what youre talking about, which is something he very rarely considers other people to be, or he might just ignore your correction. but sometimes he wont, which makes you feel kinda silly for pointing out his tendency for hypocrisy! how confusing. it’s hard to keep up with this one.
he, like all of his colleagues minus desiderius, thinks he is the only Good King while all the others are complete messes who dont know what theyre doing or are just flat out bad people. but like, yknow, its a fucked up dysfunctional family! that’s totally normal, right??1/11
something about him just makes you think “theres a guy who knows his shit,” its probably his sturdy [outward] confidence, his [appearance of] wisdom, his [very real] intelligence and his long list of supporters that make you think that about him
his hair is weird as shit! there are ‘stars’ in it that glow, not BLINDINGLY bright but i mean yknow, they do glow, and where theyre embedded in his hair theres increased physical sensitivity. pulling on this guy’s hair fucking HURTS, even petting it can be uncomfortable if youre not really really careful. not to mention a fucking haircut, good lord (haha)
his parents were kind of like... very emotionally shallow, they were the sorts of people to be like Oh I’m Fine ^_^ at everything, and in subtle and hard-to-detect ways, they would punish nana for showing emotion of any kind (for example, laughing at him when he would cry at sad things as a child). because of this, he is now very open about his emotions and embraces them as something he should listen to and follow rather than only relying on cold logic as his parents tried to have him do. (its a lot more sinister in practice than it sounds, because yeah most of the time it is innocent like this but at the same time, he takes his own feelings VERY seriously and if you hurt them, even if it’s just by having boundaries, he will identify you as someone mistreating him or even abusing him depending on how close you are]
[heres where we get into The Shit, big tw for abuse, csa/pedophilia and “marital” sexual abuse/assault]
his closest friend and advisor arya kurosawa has been his best friend since they were both teenagers. they met when arya was 14 and nana was 17 [in terms of appearance/maturity are what those ages refer to, they were both immortal] and they got along very well.
of course by very well i mean on top of getting along very well, nana has ALWAYS had an inherent, base-level disrespect for arya’s boundaries. it’s been there since they were teens, and it mostly manifested in nana pressuring arya to do [mostly innocent - but the pressure and coercion made them not so innocent] things he was scared to do.
they were inseparable pretty much ever since they met and VERY, very in love with each other
they definitely were a romantic item by the time nana inherited the throne from his mother, and the age gap was definitely concerning but it only grew more concerning as nana’s mental/appearance age rose because he was growing up emotionally and psychologically and arya’s... stagnated.
when nana was in his early 30s so to speak, arya was stuck at 14-15 or so. and like... they didnt really see anything weird about that, they figured “well we both met when we were kids so its not like nana is a pedophile or anything, why question something so good?”
to someone who didnt know better wrt age gaps in romantic relationships and pedophilia, the relationship between those two would have looked completely normal and healthy. there was certainly an appearance of mutual respect, support, love and commitment
nana could only treat a 14-15 year old so much like his equal. to be totally honest, even since they were teenagers, nana treated arya like his inferior, like a student that needed to be taught, and that dynamic only grew/got worse as nana aged mentally.
but at the same time arya also taught nana so many things! see? nana wasn’t some condescending prick! obviously everything is fine. there were a lot of ways sometimes in which ARYA was the adult and nana was the child ^_^ so it’s equal, right?
arya certainly didnt know any better, nana was the love of his life and that was all there was to it. he knew [because of nana] that any discrimination they might face due to their ages in this relationship was simply unfounded, cruel bigotry from a species of essentially cavemen who were afraid of fire. he knew he was progressive for his time, in a couple decades probably everyone else would come to their senses too!
long story short, one day arya very quickly, almost violently realized EXACTLY everything that was wrong. nana’s condescending behavior had come to a head and someone arya considered a playful rival had forced him, very painfully, to face the truth of what this relationship was: abuse from a man who should know better, taking advantage of a boy who didnt.
arya couldnt exactly love nana after realizing this. and it really fucking sucked. he really wanted to go back to the way things used to be, he wanted to “undiscover” what he’d discovered, but there was no way back and he felt so broken and dirty and ungrateful and bratty and selfish for suddenly feeling this way.
nana on the other hand noticed arya very suddenly averse to being touched or held or even looked at. for a while, he was very understanding about this - what that playful rival did was essentially cast a spell and at first he thought arya was just sick or physically not well or something, and that he’d get better soon.
he didn’t.
nana didn’t know what to do. suddenly arya was neglecting him, acting like he was terrified of nana. he’d never been like this before, what happened? it’s incredibly painful and confusing, losing the love of your life like that; one day you’re everything to them, and the next they’re flinching every time you raise your hand around them. nana had never hit him or abused him verbally... in fact, it was nana who HELPED ARYA gain the strength and courage he needed to become independent from his emotionally abusive parents. so why was nana suddenly the bad guy? he had no idea what happened, why, how to fix it, or anything like that.
eventually he snapped, unable to take being deprived of love and attention like this, so he just took whatever he wanted, physically, not caring what arya thought of it.
he knew it was wrong. he knew he’d definitely crossed the line into objectively unforgivable actions. but he was almost too afraid to stop and relinquish this power over arya, because then he had to A.) lose arya, and B.) be held accountable for his actions. both two very terrifying things he saw no personal gain in.
that went on for a long time, until nana sort of... slowly realized he was feeling weaker and weaker, more prone to physical weariness dizziness, severe headaches and nausea, and he didn’t put 2 and 2 together until it was too late.
arya had figured out how to start poisoning him and getting away with it.
by that point, nana realized not just what was happening and why, but also that he unquestionably, factually deserved this pain and much, much more. that realization was too much for him, it sort of broke him psychologically for a very long time, leaving him completely helpless to whatever revenge arya decided to take on him
[it was all physical and psychological torture, but arya was certain NEVER to stoop to his level and sexually abuse nana. he couldnt even think of sleeping with nana “consensually” anyway, it made him horribly sick to even consider]
eventually after a long-ass time of this, arya just got sick of looking at nana and couldn’t even be around him anymore without feeling absolutely god-awful, so he just abandoned nana, leaving him to fester in his broken body and mind
and y’know, stuff happens after that, but thats all there really is to the most prominent phase of nana’s development in THIS story. i also play him in his phase of development after that last bullet point [roughly 200 years later], where he’s fucked up in all kinds of ways and totally deserving it, but also trying to... not really redeem himself or anything like that, he knows that’s not really a thing, but rather to make himself useful to good people who want to do the right thing, in a dnd campaign
nana goes through a SHIT TON of changes, to the point that each phase of his development has his own individual profile on toyhou.se, he’s become a Big Trauma Coping Character for me and somewhat an experiment in redemption arcs, seeing what exactly should happen and how to make “redemption” arcs seem not cheap or forced
here’s the one i talked about in this post though
http://toyhou.se/335049.nana-of-the-stars
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So I just finished season 3 of “The 100″
Charles Pike
He's brutal AF, takes no names, no prisoners. The flashback episode - wish they would have focused on either the kids or the adults that have been around since the beginning instead of Pike who is not a main character. And I feel that they were trying to make him sympathetic with him not wanting them to go down.
As soon as Marcus wanted to have an election. I was like, Yey democracy! but Boo, because I knew where it was going. It's Helena Cain/Gaius Baltar all over again. And I love that it lasted so damned long before Marcus breaks down and decides to take Pike to Polis.
And I was actually shocked about his death. I did know that Octavia wouldn't be able to let it go. Not even after he helped them. That's not who she is. So I did expect her to get some sort of retribution out of him eventually just didn't expect it to happen so suddenly.
ALIE There was always something that I didn't understand about her motivations. Why did she think that there was too many humans, so she decides to blow them up? To me it doesn’t make sense to her need to save the human race and to do whats best for it. I guess it's just meant that shes a flawed program. Something that this show (that I do really love about it) is that each character does what they think is best for humanity. Pike, ALIE and Jaha who were pretty much the villians of season 3 did what they thought was best for humanity. It's something that the show has explored in many different forms through out the seasons. What is best? What is right? Do we sacrifice the few for the many? Or do we need to think beyond that?
The world is coming to an end in 6 months So does this mean that season 4 is it's last? Because I'm not sure just how they are going to get out of this one. Do they end up back in space in just the way the show started? Trying to wait out another nuclear winter. Or do they survive somehow underground like Mt Weather? Or do they just all die a devastating and unhappy end?
Also I want to know how everyone is going to cope with the shit they did when they were chipped.
Lexa, Lincoln and Sinclair It was so good to see Alessandro Juliani again but man the guy's characters don't have a very good track record for staying alive. I did know (the few things about the show that I did) that Lexa was going to die. Just didn't think it'd be as early as it was. Which makes me sad because I did like her character and I liked the Clarke/Lexa relationship. So much better than Clarke/Finn. I am glad that they at least got to give into their feelings before she died. Even though I had hoped that she'd survive somehow.
I do wonder if Clarke can go into the flame (somehow) and visit Lexa from time to time.
I felt that Lincoln's death was pretty needless. I hear that the actor wanted to leave the show and thus his death but I wish it had been written differently. Because he went back to be executed because he's a warrior and has to die with is brothers and sisters. And that reason doesn't really sit right with me.
Jasper I totally pegged that Jasper would be the first one to accept the chip and the dude lasted very long before he actually does. I felt like his storyline was pretty excellent and very 'The Chief' ish.
Clarke She was much less annoying this season but pretty much once Lexa died I kind of checked out of the storyline at Polis. The Pike/Insurgent storyline was much more interesting. I really hoped for some Clarke/Abby scenes but we dont' get them until the last episode of the season. Which were excellent scenes - my favorite and their best yet. It really feels that at this point in the show that we won't get very many Clarke/Abby scenes.
The suffering of Marcus Kane He tries so hard to do everything in his power to stop Pike and it eventually comes to his last resort which is to turn Pike over to the Trikru. Only because this is the land of The 100, nothing ever goes according to plan. And he of course lands himself in jail. And he doesn't want to be saved - ever since the culling he's had this need for atonement.
And then shit gets literal when he's nailed to a cross. That was so fucking brutal. But because ALIE now has Abby she knows about their feelings for each other and uses that to manipulate him into taking the key.
First they use sympathy and then ALIE overpushes her hand by have chipped Abby attempt to seduce him. He doesn't realize at first because the woman he loves his kissing him. But pretty quickly figures it out because she's not acting at all like herself. Abby's not going to throw herself at him if she's concerned AF about Clarke. She's going to try to do something about it not run away from it by having sex. And not top of that this isn't the way they act around each other. They aren't used to giving into their feelings for each other and the other times that Abby has shown Marcus how she feels about him have been hesitant and shy.
They should have known that strapping and nailing him to a cross would not get him to take the key. It was pretty obvious what it was that would get him to take it. It so harrowing to see a Blissful chipped Abby meditate while she's got a gun to her head and the man that she loves behind her suffering while nailed to a cross.
Knowing what we know about both Abby and Marcus it's not hard to see what it would take for them to actually accept the key. The lives of those people that they love.
Arkadia Parents I really love that this season Abby and Marcus have really become parents of the 100. In particular Abby/Raven. Who had some wonderful stuff in season 1. That wonderful relationship contiunes here in season 3. I want more of Abby and Raven drinking together. That was pretty great. I love Raven's sass and feel that it's pretty evenly matched by Abby's strong opinions and guidance. And we have a new dynamic of Marcus fathering Bellamy and Octavia (to a lesser extent). I really feel that Marcus sees so much of himself in Bellamy and wants him to follow in his footsteps some day.
Jaha So what's going to happen with him in season 4? I can't wait to see him. Will he be the man we saw before the chip? The guy that threw his own crew mate off his boat so him and John Murphy could survive? Or will he have woken up?
Marcus and the Trikru I love how much Marcus has adopted the ways of the Trikru. I hope we get to see branding mark again. ;)
Indra I hope she surived the cross. I really dig her character especially now that we have Lincoln dead we don't have any other regular Trikru among the Skaikru. Also I love Marcus/Indra friendship.
#the 100#marcus kane#dr abby griffin#thalonius jaha#the ark#arkadia#trikru#skaikru#indra#lexa#clarke griffin#charles pike#john murphy#jasper johns
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Ok so right now I’m in a shitty mood because I can’t sleep and I’m sick again, so I felt like compiling a masterlist of every single Fanfiction trope I despise. [And the reasons for why] Also, yes, I understand that these are just my opinions and I can suck it up because some people like them, but I did state that this was a masterlist of the tropes that I do not like. I was wishing to rant and maybe get a few who understand why I don’t like these AU’s.
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• The ol’ Alpha, Beta, Omega dynamics trope [Unless it’s actually for a wolf/werewolf/animal pack] All right, so if you’ve been following me for a bit [or read my bio], you’ll know that I’m Asexual. First, let me explain why I hate this Goddamn trope. Three words. Procreating. Heat. Cycles. I literally can not stand the fact that every A/B/O dynamics always, always have the heat cycles. I understand why it’s in the trope, because it originated from actual societal status and actions in animals, but it’s just that. Humans aren’t animals, and if the people in the Fic are Grade-A-Fully-Human, why would you even implement the A/B/O dynamics with the heat cycles in the first place? It’s like everything has to be about procreation, but it’s really not; at least in humans it’s not. I have no problem reading sex scenes, and I don’t mind it being in a fic if it isn’t excessive [unless it’s meant to be] and doesn’t revolve around it, as it does nothing for me. It’s as if I’m reading just another scene. Sigh, just… argh.
• Destined/Fated Mates …I just. I can’t. This has to be the most hated trope for me overall. Now, don’t get this confused for Soulmate AU’s. I adore those if they’re done right. To start, this entire damn trope just seems non-consensual in my mind. The whole ‘drawn to each other’ and ‘fated to be with one another’ along with ‘can’t choose who they will be with’ is a mood killer for me. I don’t like the fact that the two [or more] partners cannot actually choose who they fall in love with [you get what I mean, and if you dont, sorry], because they’re just 'oh destined to be with’ or some shit. I know in some folks’ mind it makes total sense because it just does, but I’m sorry, it doesn’t to me. I don’t like the idea that the person who you ultimately end up with is who you’re going to be with forever because fate fucking chose it to be. I like the fact that in most romance stories, the person makes a choice that this is who they love, no one else, not her, or him, but this one. I honestly don’t know how to explain it besides that it just seems like a particularly forced love.
• Harem Procreation/Body Modifications Ah, here we are again, back to a variant of the A/B/O dynamic trope where the [mainly male(s)] protagonist has their body modified for the sole purpose of getting knocked-the-fuck-up and having little mini-spawns. Ok, I respect that some people love large families and the idea of having lots of babies, but really? Gah! Once again, it revolves around the entirety of bearing children, not the plot, or story, or love between the lovers [most of the time in many of these AU fanfics]. I want some actual story and plot, not more sex and more sex until all that the main character is practically now a baby-machine. Christ.
• M-preg Now, don’t get me wrong here, I can fully appreciate a male welcoming a bun in the oven, but I want it to be logical, explain it to me, how did this happen? Is it by experimenting gone wrong? Is the universe this way- if so, why? Is it because of a certain magical force? Please just explain it to me and make it seem logical, like a trans-boy wishing to keep his ability to have children [we need more trans stories]. I can’t read an M-preg story without getting squicked unless it’s logically and convincingly explained as to why it’s happening. It’s just the way I am
• Super/OP Character Trope Just like everyone else, I enjoy some personal gratification along the way as well. Especially super!character fics. Unless- they’re shitty and miraculous. As you have probably picked out from my complaints above, I love a good logical reason to why everything is happening [unless it’s just meant to be 'holy wow’ and un-explained because so-so]. Did the character come into some cursed object? A blessed item? Did the character pray to the god/gods and ask for power? Cool, just please tell me. I certainly can’t enjoy a Fanfic where the protagonist has somehow suddenly come into this plethora of magic, knowledge, and/or power without a reason as to why.
• Instantly Healed These make me want to die. I see this AU several times over, usually in the Super!Character tropes, during my reading. The very cliché act of having an abused, neglected, and bitter person who often times has a malnourished body, weight, or height problems and then is cured! Just like that! Wow! They’ve grown taller, filled out with weight, look brighter and happier! All of that shit that the character went through is gone all because you [assumingly] don’t think someone who has experienced the hardships of physical/mental abuse that created who they are as a person doesn’t appeal to you! Way to invalidate real people who’ve suffered the same thing because you don’t believe it’s attractive. This is technically what J.K Rowling did to Harry Potter. Harry was an abused boy, both physical and mental all throughout his childhood, yet turned out ok in the end, able to have a healthy and stable relationship with Ginny, have kids, and still be ok even after all of that shit. The War. His relatives. Killing. There’s no fucking way that in real life he would have turned out that way. It’s too inconsistent. How in the hell was he not mentally fucked? Exactly.
• Aesthetic Usage The AU of making an original character who is ethnic and is a PoC, but has no culture and is just for looks because it appeals to you. If you use it? Well, fuck you.
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Geh, this has been a wrap. I’ll probably add some more to this post as time goes on and I remember/find more that I can’t stand, but whatever. For not, this is what it is. If you sympathize, drop a reply on why or just to say, 'hey, I agree!’
#slytherin whispers#slytherin complains#hated tropes#despised tropes#hated au's#hated au#mpreg mention#abuse mention#trans mention#lgbt mention#fanfiction#fanfic#fic#trope#au#complaints#ugh
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A good voice actor can make you game's narrative and characters come alive with emotion and power. They can take chunks of text and turn them into a vivid story that will really stand out in the player's memory.
A bad voice actor can destroy all of your hard work on story and character development.
Wayne June falls very much in the former category. This prolific voice actor's deep, sonorous narration is as important to Darkest Dungeon's appeal as its characteristic visuals, its mental afflictions, and its vicious difficulty. The writing in Darkest Dungeon was extremely well done, but it was June's unique tone and delivery that gave the developer's words their dark power.
How do voiceover artists like Wayne June work? And how can you find such a person to work on your game? We decided to ask him how he works, and for any tips and insights he had for game devs looking to hire and work with voice actors.
WORKING WITH RED HOOK
Red Hook Studios, the creators of Darkest Dungeon, found June through a shared interest in the writer H. P. Lovecraft.
Chris Bourassa had been familiar with some previous work of mine, a series of audiobooks in the 'Weird Fiction' genre by Lovecraft," says June. "Since the concept for Darkest Dungeon has a rather Lovecraftian flavor, he thought I'd be a good fit."
"I love Gothic horror, grew up on monsters and scifi, so the concept of Darkest Dungeons grabbed me."
June was immediately impressed by Darkest Dungeon. "I love Gothic horror, grew up on monsters and Sci-Fi, so the concept grabbed me," he says. "The scriptwriting was nothing short of stupendous, I had a preview glimpse of the concept art and found that inspiring. "
He had done voice work on audio books, TV documentaries and promos... Go see his website to get a sense of the full range. But this was his first game project. He recorded himself in his own home studio, and shared cleaned-up versions of the audio files with the developer.
Red Hook hit the jackpot with June. What can other game developers do to help ensure an equally positive experience? How do you look into finding someone whose vocal talents enriches your work like June's did for Darkest Dungeon? How do you get them interested in working with your game, and what do they need to come aboard? How do you guide them to get the words just right?
KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT
When searching for a professional voice actor, it helps to have a very good idea of what you have in mind for your game.
Do you want someone with a cute voice, or someone who can make the dread halls come alive with malice? Knowing exactly what you want can not only guide you to find the right voice actor, but gives you an idea on what to suggest while giving directions to the person you eventually hire.
[embedded content] Wayne June's rendition of Poe's "The City in The Sea"
CAST YOUR NETS WIDE, BUT LOOK FOR EXPERIENCE
You could very well have already heard someone who's a perfect fit for your game in some other medium besides games. A good voice actor for your video game might not necessarily have worked in games before, as many of them do all kinds of different work.
The voice business is extremely wide-ranging," says June. "Here's a list of just some of the areas using highly specialized voice talent: Animation, Cartoons, Videogames, Audiobooks, Corporate Training Videos, Dubbing, eLearning, Webinars, Tutorials, Documentary Films…"
"Hire experience. There's a difference between, 'Yeah, I could do that' and 'Yes, I've done that.'"
June says that there are quality voice actors in all manner of different places, but he cautions developers to look for experience: "There are those among us whose range covers several of these areas, I work regularly in over a dozen of them, but no one person is likely to be appropriate for it all; the demands of the industry are just too far flung.
"There's a difference between, 'Yeah, I could do that' and 'Yes, I've done that,'" he insists. "Hire experience. Also, it may be helpful to get referrals from someone in your industry."
BE WARY OF BARGAINS
"You get what you pay for," warns June.
"As in every other industry, rapidly changing technology has changed everything," he says. "The availability of affordable recording devices has flooded the market with those wielding minimal experience and skill. You're going to come across sites that look great with '$49 voice productions' and 'freelancers' offering 'five dollar voiceovers'. Really? Good luck with that nightmare."
EXPECT PROFESSIONALISM. PROJECT PROFESSIONALISM.
You may be looking for quality talent to hire, but a voice actor is also sizing you up as their prospective employer.
"A major factor in the appeal of any prospective job is the perceived level of professionalism," says June. "In business, you want someone competent, serious, committed -- prepared, with clear objectives and a plan as to how to accomplish them."
A professional actor is going to want assurances that you have the skills necessary to pull off the game you have in mind, and that their time isn't going to be wasted on a project that may go nowhere. June says one of the things that drew him to Darkest Dungeon was a sense that Red Hook knew what they wanted and what they were doing: "Everything was extremely organized; very well planned and executed."
[embedded content] Final release trailer of Darkest Dungeon
LISTEN CAREFULLY BEFORE YOU HIRE
When a voice actor seems interested in the position you're offering, it's up to you to determine if they're right for your project as well.
"Ask for demos, ask for a custom audition, ask for recording studio specs," advises June. "Listen closely to the responses and before making a decision, be convinced that during the interview and audition process, your prospective subcontractor has been listening to you!"
It is up to the developer to determine if the voice actor is right for your project, and no matter how much experience or talent they might have, the only way you'll know for sure that they'll work out is if you listen to them yourself. Getting samples of them reading the work you've sent can solidify whether they're right for your project. (Ask for brief samples--don't expect them to record hours of material to simply aid you in your hiring decisions.)
EVALUATE A VOICE ACTOR (AND THEIR EQUIPMENT) FOR THE JOB
It can help to ask what kind of equipment a voice actor intends to use on your project as well.
Professional-grade equipment can help make for better recordings with fewer issues. June himself maintains an impressive setup. "I have a recording studio in my home with an acoustically treated booth (to deal with reflections of frequencies from hard surfaces) and use a program called Pro-Tools to record on a custom built computer maximized for audio production," he says. "I have a collection of microphones on hand from which to choose for any given project, including large-diaphragm condensers with multiple polar patterns and a supercardioid shotgun interference mic."
June continues, "I have a selection of plug-ins (software components that add options for manipulating dynamics, equalization, employing noise reduction, or adding effects such as reverb, delay, mic modeling, etc.) and I maintain a constantly growing library of sound effects and production music for sound design."
June was able to streamline the production process by editing the material before submitting it. "In the case of Darkest Dungeon, my editing included cleaning up mistakes and noises, evening out the dynamics and maintaining an overall consistent signal level," he says.
Equipment will not make an unprofessional actor suddenly work well, but a solid voice actor with high-quality equipment can help a developer get cleaner audio to work with for the end product.
PROVIDING MATERIAL TO VOICE ACTORS
Once you've made the hire, what all should you provide to the voice actor--just the lines you want them to read, or all of the surrounding context?
"I'm of the opinion a full script is best." says June.
A full script shows that you have the entire story down, which not only shows a serious commitment from you as the developer, but also helps the voice actor get a feel for the project as a whole. If you come in with snippets and undeveloped concepts, you also run the risk of looking unprofessional.
That's not to say that you cannot involve a voice actor in an early stage of the project. You can treat the voice actor like a consultant on the project to help guide you in nailing down your narrative style... but there will be a cost.
"If you're looking for the help of a voice actor in concept development, you'll be requiring more of a time investment, says June. "For example, if you're submitting multiple scripts before settling on a clear concept and finished script, for example, you can expect to pay for that."
The text of dialogue and narration isn't the only thing that can give voiceover artists a better sense of your game. "Reference audio, notes, story boards,spreadsheets are all effective," says June.
COORDINATING THE RECORDING PROCESS
Once a project is accepted, it's up to the developer to determine how closely they need to be involved in the recording process. Developers should determine if they wish to direct the voice actor live during recording or provide notes and feedback after the recording.
"A session can be set up to have a client physically present to act as director," says June. "Another option is to set up a 'phone patch' into the session so that the session can be monitored and direction provided. This can also be done by Skype, Google Hang-Out or with an ISDN connection or software such as Source-Connect."
Naturally, a more hands-on approach may effect the price. "A less expensive and often preferred arrangement is to establish understanding pre-production, and have the actual session self-directed by the voice actor," says June.
Detailed notes in the script can help the voice actor get a sense of what emotion or effect is required for a scene. It will also help the voice actor keep the emotion in mind when they go to work, which is nice given how much work it still takes with all of that direction in place.
FEEDBACK PROCESS
"I record the scripts, usually giving three to five different 'takes' of a given line to provide choices," says June. "It took multiple takes to narrow the choices down to the three to five that I sent. Plus, all initial recordings include unintentional and unwanted elements, like tripping over words, stomach grumbles, even passing planes and neighborhood dogs... my acoustic treatment is sound absorbing, not sound blocking! It can take many hours to get one hour of finished audio, depending on a particular day's challenges."
It takes a great deal of effort to provide lines even with direction, so a developer keeping careful notes on what they want in a given scene is key. Being able to communicate that with notes may not be possible given the way some developers wishes to work, but in the interest of cost, it can be worthwhile to learn to direct using notes. Barring that, find some other way to help the voice actor see the world and characters as you see them, using storyboards, references, or any other means that works for the both of you. Anything you can do to help them get the words right makes their job easier, and will help you get the quality acting you need.
"A solid concept, proper casting, and effective communication will smooth the process," says June. "Know what you want to hear, choose someone you trust and have reason to believe has the ability to provide that, and use any and all means to get across your ideas."
If done well, your words will resonate in the player's ears long after the game is over.
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