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ms-revived-frogs · 2 years

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Andrew Tate Rape Culture in Schools

Hey gyns, just wanted to share this article.

Teachers, girls call out Andrew Tate influence as rape threat revealed.

Girls as young as 10 are being subjected to daily sexual harassment in schools, with one group reportedly offered cash to make porn films.

Female teachers and girls as young as 10 are being subjected to daily sexual harassment in Sydney schools, with some teachers so frustrated they're considering walking off the job.

As leadership in some of Sydney’s private boys’ schools warn parents about the dangers of their sons watching internet personality Andrew Tate videos, young girls are being joined by female teachers in speaking up about shocking sexual harassment.

Some teachers have reported being called a “c**t” on several occasions, while others have had been told sexual explicit jokes by boys as young as 10.

The alert has been sounded by schools after The Daily Telegraph revealed a misogynistic, homophobic and anti-Semitic chat group created by a group of Knox Grammar students.

Tate, a controversial international influencer and former professional kickboxer, has been criticised for his views on women, including that they should “bear some responsibility” for being raped.

In videos shared rampantly on TikTok, which thousands of Australian children have access to, Tate espouses that women “belong in the home”, “can’t drive”, and are a “man’s property”.

He was banned from Facebook and Instagram, where he had racked up five million followers, in August.

Scots College’s head of students James Bowles warned parents about Tate’s viral videos that had clocked up billions of views on TikTok in a newsletter to parents last week.

He cautioned that students were at risk of being influenced by Tate’s rants advocating violence against women, the illegitimacy of depression and “a slew of other insensitive and uneducated opinions”.

Trinity Grammar deputy head Bradley Barr also issued a warning about Tate, saying his “reach probably extends into many of your homes and to the social media feeds of many of your sons”.

Collective Shout movement director Melinda Tankard Reist, who has been talking to students and teachers in public and private schools across Australia over the past decade, says the stories are getting worse and the children are getting younger.

Along with female students as young as 10, Ms Tankard Reist said female teachers were reporting disturbing sexual harassment from young boys, with some being brought to tears.

The speaker, writer and media commentator said female students were in “deep distress” over Tate’s influence.

“For the last few months around the country, without exception, they will ask me: Will the boys be spoken to about the influence of Andrew Tate?” she said.

“They want to know what’s been done to expose his harmful teachings.”

Girls are reporting that boys are treating them “more harshly, more aggressively,” she said.

“They’re expecting that they should be able to, quote unquote, put girls in their place, that girls are lesser than them and don’t deserve to be treated,” Ms Tankard Reist said.

“I have girls telling me that boys expect to be able to show constraint and strangle them.”

Ms Tankard Reist has no doubt the problem is getting worse.

“So what grades 5 and 6 girls are telling me used to be what the senior girls told me,” she said.

“They’re telling me that boys are threatening to rape them.

“Three girls, two weeks ago, told me – they were all 14 to 15 – that boys have threatened to rape their mothers and sisters if they didn’t send naked pictures.”

She also reported that a group of year 7 girls were offered cash by their male peers to make “porn films for them and their mates”.

The women and girls advocate said other female students had told her that they had been subjected to sexual moaning, grunting, groaning noises boys make in class, in the schoolyard and on the school bus since they were in grade 2.

“This turned into female teachers describing being subjected to these noises as well and I’ve had more female teachers this year tell me they’re leaving the profession because of this,” Ms Tankard Reist said.

“Two weeks ago, I was in the Maitland region. They were telling me that every day they are subjected to being called the C-word by boys.”

Another teacher told Ms Tankard Reist that she overheard a 12-year-old boy ask another boy, ‘How do you know you’re having sex’?

“The other 12-year-old boy replied, ‘When she starts to cry’.

“I’ve had young female teachers in tears telling me what it’s like to be propositioned by boys,” she said, reporting that one teacher had caught boys trying to take photos up her skirt under the desk.

The teachers said they were having difficulty punishing students for this behaviour, reporting a lack of backing from the education department.

“I’ve had school principals, one of whom came out of the Defence Force and went into teaching, tell me that he found teaching harder than when he was working in the Defence Force because he said even when students are in danger, he’s not allowed to suspend or expel them,” she said.

Some of the stories Ms Tankard Reist and her team have recorded from female teachers are posted on the Collective Shout website.

“I’ve been sexually assaulted by two male students, one in grade 10 and one in grade 11 in my second year of teaching (I was 25),” one teacher said.

“It was an awful experience and I didn’t feel supported by the all-male leadership team at all.”

Another reported that a boy in year 6 class began humping the floor and moaning, with the deputy principal dismissing the behaviour as “age appropriate” and “normal”.

“It infuriated me that the behaviour was considered ‘normal’ and was thus not dealt with by leadership,” the teacher said.

“In my opinion, we’ve done these young boys a huge disservice by not addressing and redirecting these behaviours.”

Another woman, who was contemplating moving into the profession, amid massive shortages in the industry, says stories like this have deterred her.

“I thought leaving a construction industry (dominated by male egos, gender pay gaps & gendered promotions) would mean my dignity and sexual harassment would be less of an issue,” she commented.

Ms Tankard Reist said teachers feel “hamstrung” about reporting sexual harassment, with some considering leaving the profession because of the lack of protection.

“I’m not blaming the boys. My view is that a sexist culture grooms sexist boys, and Andrew Tate is part of this grooming process,” she said.

Ms Tankard Reist said the most popular type of porn videos and content shared among young boys was “rape porn, torture and sadism”.

“And then everyone’s surprised at the behaviour of these Knox boys,” she said.

“Why are you surprised?

“The global porn industry is that the biggest department of education in the world.”

The expert has also joined a growing list of psychologists and educators calling out platforms like TikTok as dangerous entities, saying they’re “fuelling violence against women and girls”.

“They bring together boys, they encourage boys into this herd mentality, this pack mentality, they give them a sense of belonging,” she said.

One ballooning online phenomenon that has come under criticism recently is the “incel” or “involuntary celibate” community, a subculture of people, mostly men, who define themselves as unable to attract romantic or sexual partners and express their anger and frustrations online.

Ms Tankard Reist called the growing community “both a repository of these harmful ideas … they broadcast these harmful ideas and draw more boys in, especially disenfranchised boys who always are looking for a tribe”.

“We are struggling to raise happy, healthy, resilient, emotionally literate, empathetic, young people,” she said.

“We're driving the empathy, especially, out of boys.”

Reading through this just made me depressed. And of course the article focuses on the boys, and not the girls who are literally going through human rights violations at prepubescent ages. It seems every time women make some steps, they’re rolled right back. Roe v. Wade being overturned, Andrew Tate being a rulebook for young boys. Every time I feel like maybe boys and men might respect us, I’m let down. It’s apparent now that men might never really respect us, seeing as how easy it was to have even the younger generations turned against girls and women - all with the power of social media. It’s also apparent that for true gender equality, boys need to be kept under strict regulation on what they watch. Lord knows the type of men these boys will grow up to be.

#my post #rape culture #misogyny #andrew tate #sources

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arttheclown · 1 year

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in honour of this server’s 3-month anniversary, i thought i would post an updated promo in the main tags once more! THE CLOWN CAFÉ is an inclusive, 18+ discord server for fans of the TERRIFIER franchise, art the clown, & iconic new final girl sienna shaw. the clown café’s purpose is to give gay, lesbian, bi & trans fans a safe space where we can discuss the characters and lore, joke around together, share fanart / fics / edits, and - yes, objectify the clown, if that sort of thing tickles your fancy. (and boy does that happen a LOT in there!!!)

🤍 🖤 server highlights include:

the ability to connect with other queer fans of terrifier, including artists, writers, and casual fans; being able to share your creations without relying on likes, reblogs, or any sort of algorithm.

sharing ideas and headcanons, speculating on lore, & potentially collaborating with each other if the inspiration strikes; we may or may not have a zine in the works soon!!

connecting with other queer fans of the slasher / horror genre in general, not just terrifier! we have a number of mutual interests in there outside of these films & an entire category dedicated to non-terrifier talk.

movie nights, voice calls, & game nights!

a casual / friendly vibe in general; anyone can pop in and out of the chat as they please. there’s no such thing as too much or little talking, so long as we all respect each other!

🤍 🖤 as far as ground rules go...

the server is for ADULTS ONLY as a precaution, as i have seen too many things go wrong in all-ages servers and do not want to take any chances. this is not equivalent to sharing excessive amounts of nsfw, nor for people to be weird or overstep others’ boundaries.

no gross stuff, meaning fetishized / romanticized incest, rape, pedophilia, etc. that’s not welcome here, ever. racist, ableist, homophobic, transphobic, or otherwise bigoted behaviour will also result in a permanent ban.

i feel the need to emphasize that this is not a server geared towards cishet people. this is not something that is going to change any time soon.

due to past server mishaps & bad experiences within the horror / slasher community, i am cautious about who i allow in. please do not take this personally. it has nothing to do with you & everything to do with wanting to ensure that everyone is kept safe & my own personal boundaries.

be nice to everyone in the server. don’t demean people or talk over them. please read additional rules carefully upon entering. that’s about it!

LIKE OR REBLOG IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN JOINING & I WILL (POTENTIALLY) SEND AN INVITE YOUR WAY!!! 🎪 🍿 🍭

#terrifier #terrifier 2 #art the clown #sienna shaw #new promo DONE!

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opinated-user · 1 year

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the new video of LO...

-claims that every trans woman (trans men and non binary people don't count) always hated Rocky Horror Picture Show. show no record of this. while doing so she makes a joke about "i know you all know that trans women existed during this time period because you all think one was the one who started Stonewall" while flashing a picture of Marsha... according to her own word, Marsha didn't threw the first brick but she was there resisting the police and she did plenty of activist work for the trans youth of NY. this is the first time that i remember her even mentioning Marsha's name so it feels... dismissive and kinda gross make a direct reference to her just to diminish her role on LGBT+ history without further context of her other accomplishments that only recently got any recognition at all. LO already throws to the trash the work of LGBT+ black activists of the past on a regular basis when she goes on her queerphobic rants so this doesn't make it any better.

-at 3:14 LO says at the time RHPS came out cis gay men didn't cared for what trans women had to say (who "didn't really cared much about"? LO really needs an editor) because the movie "it's a film that had all the decandent fucking around and rape they could want, dancing to shitty songs because that is the only thing some of us still care about apparently" (while showing a picture of a character in SU sampling "Other Friends"... and heather the musical for some reason.).

if you were wondering it, that was indeed a homophobic mask off moment. to insist that gay men (which i don't know if LO realizes includes MOC) enjoy rape more than any other demographic is homophobia. make a direct connection between enjoyment of rape and cis gay, or any kind of gay man, is homophobia given the long, long history of gay men as predators. LO seems to be under the assumption that only trans women have been accused of such a thing but that can't be further from the truth. at some point everyone on the community had that accusation thrown to their face, but before bigoted people concerned themselves about "bathroom laws", they concerned themselves about gay men being teachers or becoming parents or being around children on any capacity because to some gay men were all pedophiles, all predators, all rapists. to some they still are. that's why gay characters existing is considered "grooming" for them.

LO's basically whistleblowing decades old homophobia. racism too if we take into account how many black cis gay men also enjoyed the film.

this is disgusting.

-LO claims that the only trans people she has seen defending/liking the film are millenials calling it an icon without ever explaining why does it deserve that status besides the "terrible music and fucking." this is because she has barely actually researched on this or she actively refuses to concede that the movie could have done anything positive beside being about rape and music.

-LO compares an old anime called Hibari with "Quagmire Dad" episode. at least now she brings out that Hibari also had some racist elements (over anti-blackness actually) that she "forgot" to mention before because of her bad flu.

only now she tries to say that both those pieces of media portrayed very real transphobia that trans women are at risk for as jokes, which makes them less able to be taken seriously by the public, and... that is the only criticism she thinks that episode deserves. many trans people have criticized the show for many reasons and this is the first time ever she recognizes the slightest negative point about it, but she's still under the (unjustified) idea that the episode is actually trans positive because "it's mocking the bigots."

how convenient that the only trans people worth listening are those that LO agrees with in order to defend her favourite show.

-at 6:23 she blames people calling her out for being a creep and a predator with receipts on why her last video was so bad.

"fickle patronage" means more fans abandoning her because they didn't find anything on her content worth supporting with their money, and that it's their fault and not LO's because she has never done anything wrong.

that "right wing pickme" is a trans femme youtuber who continuesly makes videos calling out transphobia from a leftist perspective. who LO has misgendered multiple times, admitted to it and justified it anyway when said trans femme youtuber called her out on being openly a creep with her audience, some of them minors.

-at 6:45 she says that only the opinion of trans women count on RHPS... with the implication being that opinion is always going to be negative, because she certainly didn't made any mention about how Laverne Cox acted on the reboot or how other trans women had positive opinions about the film.

none of this is to say that there can't be issues with the movie or reboot still or that anyone who doesn't like it is wrong for doing so. but LO's actually advocating for sucking all the nuance out from the whole topic to have one unified, one single opinion that erases or leaves on the dust the experience of many other queer people.

-at 7:34 LO "jokingly" imitates what she thinks is a souther accent where she "jokingly" uses the n-word but it's censored.

-a cheapshot to "fandom racism", something we have discussed before LO either doesn't really understand or only uses to weaponize against character she doesn't like, given how much she ignores actual examples of it in fandom or happily engages on it herself by holding a POC protagonist to unfair standards she doesn't hold for the rest of the cast.

-LO insist that "a problem with LGBT+ white spaces" is that they don't know that the right way to deal with problematic media is to do it critically... said the white passing Cherokee appropiating woman who can't even accept criticism for Disney actively sabotaging their first movie where the queerness of a main character is actually part of the plot and not easily edited it out.

-at 9: 17 LO engages way too gleefuly on a fantasy where she grabs two writers of WOW and the woman who writes novels about Sylvannas to "beat them to death with a fucking rock because they're vile human beings who get off to the suffering of women and non white people." reminder that LO has barely said anything about the actual real harassment that the real women employees suffered at the company... no, she only has an issue with the writers and the direction of the story of WOW has taken.

she cares more about how Sylvannas, a fictional blonde white woman, was treated than how real women were actually traumatized.

-at 9:32 she add that she'd beat Rowling with the same rock.

-at 10: 46 she "jokingly" says the n-word again but it's censored, without the bad accent. it wasn't funny the first time, it isn't funny now.

-the conclusion is not terrible... but coming from LO's so full of double standards, bad arguments and contradictions that it's hard to ignore.

#lily orchard

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pineapplerightsideupcake · 5 months

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you are a combat soldier fully fitted with state of the art american body armor and weapons. you have numbers on your side. you and your buddy have been firing at a 15 yr old in reboks and dirty cargo shorts. no shirt. the kid throws a rock at your buddys head, smoking him instantly. you pull his limp body to relative safety and begin to attempt cpr. you know it wont work. you pull your head up from his now cold lips, you can feel his blood on your helmet. you watch the light fade from his once blue eyes and you know in that moment what to do. you pull out the sterilized sample cup from your sack and undo your comrades pants. youre not sure if you have enough time, or if a 12 yr old girl with a deadly stick will attack in your vulnerable state, but you position your head between his legs anyways, knowing his pure soldiers jizz is mere moments away from becoming unviable. you take his soft meat into your mouth and let your specialized cum retrieval IDF training take over. soon your fallen comrade, the man who went into basic with you, the best man at your wedding, is blowing his load directly into your mouth, tears streaming down urself. his last orgasm and hes too dead to enjoy it. quickly you move your head away, capturing what you can in your sterile cup. you wipe tears and cum from your face and put away the jar. you dont dare move his body, you know it wont make it back to homebase, you stand up to walk away. a 15 yr old in adidas and cargo shorts hits you in the head with a rock. your comrade sees you go down, and se knows the drill. in your final moments, you hope u hang on long enough to feel his tongue on your meat

So first and foremost this is massively homophobic. So dear progressive, ask yourself why you’re making the same kind of gay joke they do on 4chan.

Second. This is insanely cringey. This is the kind of thing a teenager thinks is a devastating insult because his only frame of reference for blowjobs is the other chuds he eats lunch with in a stairwell because the other kids can smell what losers you are.

Third, it’s pretty telling that you saw me reblog examples of anti semitism and figured that must mean I love the IDF.

Fourth, I am a radical feminist which means I view all militaries as a patriarchal promise fulfilled to the men that risk their lives in order to enrich other men are to be paid in looting and rape. The US military can fuck itself. The IDF can fuck itself. Every army since humans figured out how to put a pointy rock at the end of a stick is a grotesque manifestation of the male obsession with dominance and destruction. And can go fuck themselves. I’m not going to pop a monocle at your 3edgy5me joke circa 2004.

And just a little PS- many militaries including the USA offer a sperm retrieval service. It’s not unique to the IDF. Neither is rape or unnecessary force or terrorizing civilians or stealing or laughing about it. It’s just that bigots like you only care when you can weaponize it.

But you don’t know any of that because you’re 12 and just learned what a blowjob is last week.

#radical feminism #radical feminist safe #radical feminist community #anti semitism

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hellomynameisbisexual · 2 years

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Even within the queer community, biphobia isn’t being taken seriously, explains author Lois Shearing on Bi Visibility Day.

Homophobic and transphobic comments have finally started to be taken seriously for the damage that they cause.

Many jokes that would have been considered mainstream only 10 years ago are now, rightly, considered unacceptable. This has lead to a lot of outrage-click headlines about “cancel culture”, but sometimes it’s just plain old consequences, such as the time Kevin Hart was forced to exit the Oscars after his old homophobic tweets were rediscovered

This is not to say that anti-gay sentiments – and anti-trans rhetoric, especially – are no longer issues in public life. Stories like Kevin Hart’s are still in the minority. JK Rowling’s ongoing, public spiral into Britain’s obsessive anti-trans rights movement has had little effect on her fame and fortune. But within progressive and queer circles, transphobia and homophobia are being called out and addressed, or at least discussed. So why is intolerance towards biphobia lagging behind?

Earlier this week, which happens to be Bi Awareness Week, Labour MP Rosie Duffield was asked about liking at tweet which criticised the “reclaiming” of the word queer and called trans people “heterosexuals cosplaying as the opposite sex” (an incident that prompted an ongoing Labour investigation). In response, Duffield claimed that “many of her gay friends” are offended by “men… who are married to women, who call themselves the ‘q’ word, and appropriate gay culture in a way that is deeply offensive to a lot in the gay rights movement”.

Comments like these invalidate the identity of bi/pan/queer men in different-gender relationships. But even within the queer community, biphobic jokes and remarks are still frequent and mostly pass without recourse. For example, comedian Rachel Mccartney has made openly biphobic comments on a number of occasions. This included once tweeting, in response to accusations that Jeffrey Epstein’s ex-girlfriend and alleged co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell abused underage girls: “Dating a 60-year-old man and raping 15-year-old girls is bi culture.” (For context, bi women face high rates of sexual violence than gay and straight women.)

Biphobia is rife

In 2017, Stonewall found that a third of teenagers “frequently” or “often” hear negative comments about bi people (biphobic language), for example, that bi people are “greedy” or “just going through a phase”. On top of this, a 2014 study examining online discussions about bisexuality in an LGBT+ environment discovered that 55 per cent of the comments contained some form (or evidence) of biphobia or monosexism.

Despite the prevalence of biphobia, it’s common to read or hear comments about bisexual people having privilege or not facing any real oppression. But this is provably false: it is well documented that bi people face higher rates of mental illness, due in part to biphobia and double discrimination. Bi+ men are less likely to get tested for HIV due to social stigma and biphobia within healthcare settings. Bi+ people are also more likely to suffer from addiction or abuse drugs and alcohol. Yet bi people are still seen as deserving targets of cruel jokes or comments. We are seen as being able to opt out of our oppression, or that we bring it on ourselves by being greedy.

Taking biphobia seriously would mean re-examining the ‘born this way’ argument.

Taking biphobia seriously would mean re-examining the “born this way” argument. As activist and lawyer Heron Greensmith wrote earlier this year: “The problem is that many LGBTQ2S+ activists invested far too much in an argument that is both false and a dead end: Queerness isn’t immutable for all of us. Queerness can be beautifully fluid.” It would also mean challenging the idea that being greedy or self-indulgent aren’t character flaws. Writer Maz Hedgehog points out how this overlaps with another type of prejudice that progressive spaces are yet to reckon with: fatphobia. She writes: “Fatness and bisexuality become spectres, signs of defect or incompleteness or immaturity to be feared and rejected. They become temporary categories which must be disciplined into maturity and coherence, lest the whole edifice falls apart.”

Biphobia need to be taken as seriously as any other kind of prejudice or discrimination. We know biphobia is real, we have decades worth of evidence of the harm that it causes. If we can’t tackle this within the queer community, how are we supposed to do so in mainstream society? The answer is not to try and convince people that biphobia is real, it is. It’s to start reacting to it in the same way we do with other types of bigotry: report it, call it out and make it clear that it’s unacceptable.

Lois Shearing is the author of the Bi the Way: The Bisexual Guide to Life and you can get it from bookshop.org and amazon.com.

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realasslesbian · 2 years

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Anyway, @star-observer is censoring my Facebook comments in response to Sydney 'Gay' and 'Lesbian' Mardi Gras trashing all their rainbow flags and replacing them with 'progress' pride flags, but I ain't gonna let no covert hettie corporation silence me bc my gay ideas are putting their shareholdings at risk so enjoy my alleged wrongspeak:

I know you probably don't care about the atrocious state of gay rights in the world today, but fyi the 'progress' pride flag WAS commissioned by a corporation and was designed by a functionally heterosexual male (though I'm sure Danny boy's being paid quite handsomely to keep that lil tidbit under the radar). The creative commons license on the 'progress' pride flag applies to small and large gay owned business (i.e. everyone from your lesbian Etsy hobbyist to Sydney Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras will be forking out money to use this flag, as opposed to the free publicly owned original flag). So, unless you're stitching your own flag together out of rags (which the design of this flag (deliberately) makes that difficult to do without an industrial workshop) then you have to pay up. Essentially gay people, in %99 of cases, have to pay Daniel 'Straight Man' Quaser and the corporation he works for to use this flag. Gilbert Baker, designer of the original flag, war veteran, actual gay man, committed homosexual rights activist, specifically stated he made the flag public domain because it should be 'accessible to all for public use and owned by everyone'. That's clearly not the intent of the 'progress' pride flag.

As 'inclusive' as the 'progress' pride flag claims to be, it has obviously been designed with complete ignorance of the original flag and it's meanings, which actually included everyone to begin with. Many of the extra designs in the 'progress' chevron are, at best, duplicating the meaning of the original stripes and, at worst, erasing specific gay cultural facets (i.e black actually stands for AIDs victims, not black people). The design's phallic look has also been considered in poor taste given the increasingly toxic rape culture that lesbians currently experience within the queer community; a rape culture widely abetted, supported and encouraged by TRAs. Seems a bit of a dystopic joke to have the trans flag inserting itself into the rainbow when y'all won't even acknowledge widespread TRA violence against lesbians, but I digress.

Looking at the wider context of the 'progress' pride flag paints an even more insidious picture. The book on gay rights was apparently closed and tossed in the bin several years ago when a handful of countries passed marriage equality (despite the fact that even more countries still criminalize homosexuality (and not transgenderism)(in fact many homophobic countries encourage or even enforce gender transition as a 'solution' to homosexuality). It was around this time that studies started showing gays and lesbians are difficult to market to (especially lesbians) but trans, by it's very nature, was potentially a huge cash cow for the retail/beauty/medical industrial complex. And now we live in an era where Sephora is happy to show men in make-up every day, but has still never explicitly featured recognisably same-sex people. Every form I fill out will ask me for my pronouns, but even the Bureau of Stats won't ask about sexuality. Corporations are having an absolute field day appropriating gay and lesbian pride and turning it into something more marketable. Not only are they now able to take advantage of males and their higher disposable incomes, but they've created a whole new level on which to make young girls feel bad enough about themselves that they'll spend what little money they have in the hope they might one day be treated like a human being. Young girls seeking gender transition has absolutely sky-rocketed in the last few years in an industry that previously saw only a handful of mostly male patients. Why is that, do you think? At the very least, do you think it's worth more consideration than the current trend of calling any inconvenient truths 'transphobia' and moving on?

In any case, the 'progress' pride flag to me represents the corporatisation and mutilation of gay and lesbian pride. It's a symbol of corporate greed and society's continued abhorrence of gay people, simply repackaged in 'inclusion' and 'diversity' and 'creating the largest customer base as possible'. Gay and lesbian people are statistically a very small and shrinking minority within the queer community and our voices have been silenced by the far larger, louder, more socially acceptable and more marketable BTQ+ contingent and the billion dollar corporations that support them. There is no 'progress' for gays and lesbians here, just the same old heteronormativity we've always struggled against. Anyone waving that flag isn't part of my community🤷‍♀️

#lmao I ain't no corporate shill that has to stick to one platform to earn a buck #if you supporting homophobia I'm gonna go cross platform to chase it up #y'all corporates can suck it lmao #lgbt #auspol #lesbian #gay #mardi gras #feminism

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dollyji · 2 years

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⌗ admin info ❜

21 dani or dolly any pronouns usa english leo sun multifandom

likes ♡ making friends, writing and reading, park jisung and lee haechan, my existing friends, singing and dancing, pretty lights and colors, cats, actually all animals except bugs and arachnids

dislikes ・ヘ・ racists, people who sexualize minors or write nsfw or suggestive content about them, (any kind of) abuse apologists, plagiarists, homophobes, transphobes, islamaphobes, minors in adult spaces, people who lie about their age, toxic and controlling people, catfishes, super bright colors and flashing that causes eye strain

⌗ rules & guidelines ❜

before you follow ★ this is a smut account, aka it is 100% nsfw. i only write what i want, for who i want, and when i want. ot22. yes i do write for jisung, so you can filter out his tags (#park jisung smut, #jisung smut) if you are not comfortable with that. but hate asks about the subject are useless. this blog may include hard kinks on occasion don’t kink shame or you will get blocked.

do not interact ☆ if you are under 18 years old; minors fuck off. if i suspect you are a minor, i’m blocking you. any of the following: bots, racists, homophobes, transphobes, xenophobes, catfish, islamaphobes, etc. radfems/terfs fuck off. l*cas apologists, i refuse to talk about him so do not send me asks about him. if you send hate or bully other users, don’t follow me. i do not tolerate that kind of behavior on my blog.

⌗ frequently asked questions ❜

𝟎𝟏. when will you post xxx fic?

when i finish it! i frequently suffer from writers block, but i get to get drabbles and stuff out at the very least. however, you can always send hard hours asks for little headcanons.

𝟎𝟐. can i repost your fic if i give credits?

no. in no way, shape, or form will i ever allow this. you may not repost my works. i do not allow translations at the moment. if you see someone reposting my stuff, please report them and let me know so i can ask them to take it down. on any site where people post fanfictions. that is plagiarism.

𝟎𝟑. who do you write for?

taeil, yuta, kun, doyoung, jaehyun, winwin, renjun, jeno, haechan, jaemin, yangyang, shotaro, sungchan, chenle and jisung.

𝟎𝟒. i’m not 18, but i’m mature. can i follow?

no.

𝟎𝟓. what do you write?

I'll write mostly anything that isn't a hard pass. anything from dom!idol, sub!idol, to no power dynamics. hard and soft kinks. don't hestitate to ask! make sure to read warnings for fics.

𝟎𝟔. what do you not write?

i am not comfortable writing about scat or vomit, abuse of any kind, rape, pregnancy outside of a breeding kink, dad aus, age play, any illnesses or disorders, exclusive m/m ships, or actual incest.

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barbiegirldream · 2 years

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I made a post a few days ago about the 24 hours of homophobia (using the general definition of bigotry against anyone who has identified themselves as not cisgender or heterosexual) Dream faced but it’s extended much further and very unfortunately I do not think it is going to stop. So i wanted to sum it all up right now right here don’t mind the familiar parts please.

On April 10th Dream makes a joke with his gay friends that all the qrts say he’s not allowed to unless he outs himself right then and there. Dream says his community is like an online pride parade and if anyone wants to join everyone is welcome. His gay friend Antfrost defends him and people start calling Ant slurs.

April 11th Dream does publicly tweet that he finds women and also men attractive. Something he’s discussed plenty before. Something he will say later he found a very difficult choice.

qrts immediately begin invalidating his sexuality to his face. Saying he’s lying, saying he’s still basically straight, saying he still isn’t allowed to make those jokes just cause

Dream calls out people invalidating his sexuality. They all go priv and act like the victims for being homophobic to someone’s face

Dream doubles down on his right to reply to this sort of bs. On his priv he says he enjoys watching people deactivate/deleting meaning he views it as them realizing they were wrong. He does not realize the person who went priv put in their bio ‘pls don’t dox me’ and so people run with it saying he supports doxxing. This person was never doxxed to be clear never ever in fact they end up supporting Dream’s dox later

People act like he’s in the wrong for not silently sitting there and accepting the thousands upon thousands of homophobic comments and slurs and pure bigotry being thrown in his face

April 13th Dream went live and to 115,000 people had to explain this situation and his sexuality. Something he explicitly said and was audibly uncomfortable with talking about.

And then he had to defend his right to be hurt by the dismissive and belittling comments about his sexuality to all the people who thought he should have taken it all in stride because what if someone maybe doxxes the homophobes he calls out.

In this stream he poorly phrases something and a 10 second clip starts spreading. Essentially what Dream was saying is as someone who has been doxxed a lot if you are a normal person and you are doxxed to stay calm because the chances of anyone doing anything to you is very slim which is factually true. He condemned doxxing within that clip too it’s why it was 10 seconds long to cut around that. He wants any doxxers out of his community and never would ever support them.

Leaktwt starts spreading around a supposed dox of Dream and sending rape and gore threats to Dream stans. Along with attempting to dox Dream’s fans on twitter. They met his openness and vulnerability with hostility and threats against his life and safety and well being. That of his family too which includes his two younger siblings one of which we know is a minor still.

April 14th Minx makes a joke on the AustinShow mocking Dream’s tweet about his sexuality to his friends who very clearly find the joke repulsive. She defends herself on twitter saying she was also invalidated in her sexuality for many years?

On April 15th Ludwig uploads a video to his youtube channel where in it he makes a joke saying “sitting there with a bottle in front of my mouth stroking it like i’m Dream trying to get likes on twitter” this is blatant homophobia no way around it.

April 16th Jack Manifold Connoreatspants and Mizkif talk about Kaceytron being funny and her persistence to the ‘bit’ with Dream. Kaceytron is a streamer in early 2021 who accused Dream of queerbaiting and using another queer mans trauma tried to force Dream to out himself on her stream. When he refused she has spent the last year harassing Dream and his fans about him being straight lying to everyone. When Dream tweeted about finding men and women attractive she said ‘i told you so’ and went on to again speak on him being straight spreading biphobic rhetoric and invalidating him to his face. That’s who they find funny.

This is just a little bit. Ignoring everything else Dream has been put through these are the direct bouts of homophobia Dream has faced and something tells me it will not be improving. That the jokes about Dream and George were funny when they thought it was two straight guys mocking gay people. But now that they realize Dream is not in fact a straight man and is earnestly talking about his attraction to other men they are mocking him specifically.

#discourse #long post #homophobia

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kiefbowl · 3 years

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Okay i saw your post about secret terf readers and i am one. So i have a question. Is there any room for asexuals on the radfem community? I feel like from the actual theory we could talk about how marriage is oppressive, cultural constructions of what it means to be human, the shaming of single women, etc., but every radfem blog i find only ever wants to make fun of aces for being virgins or whatever. I really peaked after reading abt the cotton ceiling, being pressured to alter sexuality 4 men

This ask is pretty old. tw for discussion of sexual violence below.

yes, sure I think there is space for asexuals in radfem community. However…I do believe that true asexuality in humans is extremely rare. That being said, if what you’re experiencing (due to fear, preference, trauma, conditioning, whatever…) is what you’re willing to call asexuality, then it might as well be, right? If women are choosing a celibate life and believe it’s coming from an innate part of themselves, I have doubts but I don’t really want to argue about it with them. What good would that do for me or that woman? I think it’s normal, fine, perhaps even healthier in some circumstances to not have sex. No one needs to have sex, no one “should” have sex.

I do think the jokes about asexual people come from a place of concern for the entitlement a) apparently straight and b) self-admitting sex havers possess to be included in the lgbt, the “queer” community, under the “gay umbrella”, especially with how much homophobia is slung around in these conversations. Many people on tumblr/twitter will say they are “ace” but admit to have a heterosexual relationship where they are having frequent sex, and then claim either specifically or through implication that gay people oppress them by not “allowing” (how? in what way?) them to discuss their “queer experiences” of being…in danger somehow? The “danger” the ace community will discuss is often just copied pasted list of homophobic dangers gay and bi people experience, with no sources. It seems like straight fetishization of homophobic violence - ace people are not being denied homes and jobs and are not being beat up.

I will say the idea that women are “correctively raped” to “fix her” of her lack of interest in sex has some merit, I just wish they wouldn’t use that language. Especially since that idea of raping women to “unlock” her sexuality is just standard age old misogyny that all women are at risk of, not just women who want to be celibate. It’s important that standard terms and words we use to mean specific things don’t get muddied up by expanding the definition until the words are useless. Corrective rape is used to describe a specific homophobic violence, there’s no need to co-opt this very touchy and potentially triggering subject. Its also not, as I outlined above, an “ace” issue as much as a woman’s issue: a woman’s desire to be non-sexual will often not be respected due to the patriarchal idea that a woman doesn’t own her sexuality, men do. Women are not “allowed” to make this choice, they are receptacles for male sexual gratification.

in any case, to answer the question, yes all women should be welcomed to explore radical feminism, and other forms of feminism. BUT! All women should be expected to have their beliefs challenged in the processed, and have what they hold as objective truth questioned. I also could discuss more about what exactly is a “radfem community”, where do they exist and how do they exist, vs radfem tumblr. I don’t think I’ll expand on that here at this time, but I would argue the abbreviation “radfem” and how it’s used online has ostensively taken on a new meaning than just “radical feminist.” there IS a radfem community on tumblr, but is it radical feminist? is it feminist? is it well defined? how does it function? my main takeaway for this particular point is that feeling ostracized from “radfem tumblr” shouldn’t fully color your experiences as a woman exploring feminism. enjoy exploring! :)

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gregrulzok · 2 years

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okay a few things on you’re recent post!

question 1: where did you get the information that ONE is racist and homophobic??? I’m just curious is all because I love ONE a lot, for even making OPM or Mob 100 a thing.

question 2: on the speed o’ sonic thing, are you sure you meant ONE, or Murata? Because the OG webcomic where ONE fully drew everything he never pay attention to THAT kind of detail. So every drawing you saw of speed o’ sound sonic in the manga or anywhere else was Murata I’m sure.

Good questions! I'll answer number 2 first - admittedly, it could be Murata. I've only recently heard about the whole Murata thing in the first place, so I'm not sure of the Murata-to-ONE ratio of being horny for Speed'o'Sound Sonic. That part of the post was mostly a light-hearted joke, anyhow.

Now for the first question:

While I DO believe ONE has - at the very least - depicted some less than savoury racial caricatures before, as a white person I don't feel very comfortable discussing it at length.

However! As a gay person I'm more than happy to tell you why I think he's homophobic. It's a pretty simple answer, really.

This charming gentleman right here is Puri Puri Prisoner, one of the 'heroes' featured in One Punch Man, and the main crux in my argument towards ONE's homophobia.

Now let me make one thing clear: I am very, very tolerant of homophobic caricatures in media, especially in eastern/Asian media. Being from West Asia myself, I understand that many countries - including Japan - just don't have the same level of sensitivity towards a topic like this. Japan is a conservative culture and jokes aimed at the LGBT community do not carry the same weight as they do over in the more liberal west.

From Ouran Highschool Host Club to Black Butler to whathaveyou, I've consumed and enjoyed plenty of anime with depictions of LGBT characters that are less than flattering.

While I don't ENJOY homophobic jokes, I've always been able to see them as just that - jokes. Jabs at people (usually gay men, sometimes trans women) that came from a place of ignorance more so than a place of hatred. "Haha, isn't two men kissing funny?" "Haha that 'man' is wearing a dress, that's so wacky!".

...

Puri Puri Prisoner disgusted me every moment he was on screen, and made it nearly impossible for me to finish a show I was otherwise loving.

This is not a simple, light-hearted jab at something the author didn't understand or wasn't used to.

[TW: Homophobia, R*pe, P*dophilia.]

In case you need a reminder - Puri Puri Prisoner is a flamboyant, effeminate, flagrantly homosexual man. One of the jokes is that he's so buff and over-the-top manly, yet still "pretends" to be dainty and feminine, haha, isn't it so gross and weird, haha. That in itself is icky, but nothing I haven't seen before.

He is also a prisoner, because he "cannot stop sexually assaulting men". There are multiple jokes in canon about him assaulting or raping other male characters - including his fellow prison mates whom he refers to as 'his boys' and presumably regularly assaults. There's also implications that he's interested in young boys.

This isn't written by someone who doesn't understand the gay community and is poking fun at something confusing and new.

This is written by someone who understands damn well the stereotypes and insults that get hurled at gay men, and either believes them, or at the very least thinks that they're funny.

As I've said - I enjoyed OPM a lot. I enjoyed MP100 a lot. ONE is a fantastic writer.

But this character single handedly is the most vile, disgusting caricature I've ever witnessed. I don't believe this was an accident, and I don't believe it was because of ignorance or misinformation.

Whether ONE believes that gay men are pedophile rapists, or whether he thinks that saying so is a funny joke, I sincerely believe that that is enough to warrant calling someone a homophobe.

#one punch man #opm #puri puri prisoner #homophobia #saitama

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thegeminisage · 3 years

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my secret galaxy brain reading of spn s11 is better than yours

or: why season 11 is good actually. this is a long-ass meta, so it's going behind the cut

some disclaimers before we get going

absolutely all of this is accidental. nobody does this shit on purpose. this is ~my interpretation~ or whatever. i'm not actually trying to argue the writers meant to do this lol. what i'm saying is that this is the way to make season 11 make sense in your brain because it makes sense in mine and it's one of my FAVORITES. it could be one of your favorites too if you stop limiting yourself

there is heavy discussion of sexual violence in this meta so read safely etc also spoilers for all of s11 obviously

unless you watched the anime, i've seen more supernatural than you have, so i'm right >:)

for the uninitiated, the basic plot of season 11 is that eons and eons ago, before there was heaven or hell or earth or humans or angels, there was only god (chuck) and the darkness (amara). amara kept destroying what god made, so he and the archangels locked her away in a cage, which removing the mark of cain from dean's arm opened. amara escaped and dean was the first thing she saw, so she spends the season using some kind of thrall over him to make him feel drawn to her and unable to hurt her, and also looking for chuck so she can give him a little payback.

ALRIGHT HERE WE GO

season 11 & sexual violence

you don't need to look very far to find examples of sexualized violence and outright sexual violence on supernatural, but s11 is lousy with it. just to name a few examples:

amara's "thrall" on dean, which we will absolutely get into more later

crowley's jokes about altar boys and the tastes of catholic priests

ALLLLL the pedophile jokes made when crowley was raising baby amara

angels torturing cas and threatening to cut his genitals off, only to send in hannah (an angel who formerly had unrequited romantic/sexual feelings for him) to play good cop(/honeypot??) in hopes of making him talk

the return of lucifer, who possessed sam (spn has a history of equating possession and sexual violence) and is heavily implied to have raped sam in hell, and the MULTIPLE times he menaces sam throughout this season, including forcibly touching his soul

lucifer possessing castiel and using him to enact violence on the winchesters, his loved ones

i absolutely REFUSE to acknowledge the lucifer/crowley stuff but if you know you know

the episode with the kissing curse, using "love" as a means to deliver death

dean's possession in the soul eater episode

the "chitters" monsters involving mating, orgies, and forcible impregnation

you get the idea

i could write a whole essay on almost all of these but for this post we'll be sticking mostly to dean & amara

@marcusantonius pointed out while we were watching season 11 that what amara does to dean is basically speedrun his two major attachments - sam and castiel. she starts out as a baby, someone in need of protection, and quickly grows into an adult who attempts to romance/seduce him. the feelings dean has around amara aren't feelings FOR HER, they're feelings he has for SAM AND CAS that are being TRANSFERRED onto her through means of her power. (this is important for later.)

what amara does to dean is sexualized violence bordering on outright sexual assault. compelling him to feel drawn towards her and to protect her, frequently getting in his personal space and touching his face, and even kissing more than once when he is quite literally unable to resist (it's stated many times that he is unable to kill or even harm her, so he is completely helpless in the presence of someone who makes no secret of her intentions for him, sexual or otherwise).

dean says many times that what he feels for amara is not love or desire or attraction. he can't put a name to it at all - not once in the entire series is he able to properly define this thrall she has over him, which leaves us the audience a little confused (amara asking "what IS happening between us?" in 11.06 as a teenager making sexual advances on a grown man does give me a good laugh, because it was written SO WEIRDLY)... BUT we know that it is definitely sexual in nature, and not at all something dean wants to be happening.

this is addressed kind of strangely in 11.13. the villain of the week is a witch moonlighting as a hairdresser, who puts a kissing curse on her clients. the curse must be passed along like a hot potato - if you kiss someone else, it's passed along to them. if they kiss someone else, it's passed along to them. but eventually, a monster called a qareen will show up in the form of "your deepest desire" and kill you, and work its way backwards to the original curse-ee. in the episode, dean kisses the vic (i'll point out this was also technically done w/o her consent, though it was a very businesslike kiss) to put the curse on himself and protect her. the qareen takes the form of amara, and she gives Dean this little speech:

Qareen!Amara: You're a mystery. I can see inside your heart. Feel the love you feel. Except it's cloaked in shame. When it comes to this, you can’t help yourself, so why fight it? Just give in.

then, at the end of the episode, after dean reveals who the qareen was for him, we get this conversation between sam and dean:

Dean: You seriously think the sister of God is my deepest darkest desire? Sam: She isn't? Dean: No! She can’t be! Sam: Why not? Dean: Why? Because if she is that means that I'm… Sam: Means you're what? Complicit? Weak? Evil? Dean: For starters, yeah. Sam: Dean. Do you honestly think you ever had a choice in the matter? She's the sister of God, and for some reason she picked you and that sucks, but if you think I’m gonna blame you or judge you…I'm not.

the "shame" part of both of these is really what stuck out to me - the word itself isn't in the second passage, but dean's vibes are absolutely filled with shame. to me, this always read as being shame about the sexual violence and about the complicity/weakness that "allowed" that violence to happen.

and as a reminder, sam is just a few episodes past the confrontation with his own rapist (he returns to the cage to speak with lucifer in 11.09 & 11.10, and canonically struggles with what happened there even after the confrontation ends). sam made a point earlier in this episode of making sure the victim of the curse knew it wasn't her fault her husband died, but the fault of the witch who cast the curse. sam is VERY emotionally intelligent, and i honestly believe that he was speaking as one survivor of sexual violence to another here. what he's telling dean is something victims often need to be reminded of: it's not your fault. you weren't complicit, or weak. you didn't have a choice. you don't deserve blame or judgment.

we've had bad guys make sexual threats at both dean and sam many times before this and a few more times after, but as far as i can recall, this is the only conversation in the entire series that even attempts to address the impact of that particular kind of violence on dean. it's short, and strangely written, but nonetheless: there it is.

season 11 & the dean in the closet

for the purposes of this post, i'm not going to go through the entire series and find examples to try and prove dean is bi and has feelings for cas. if you don't believe that then what are you doing here? we're skipping to the goods.

actually, i always got annoyed at people who read the fake-amara's speech in 11.13 (or any of the other times people spoke about dean's shame regarding amara) as being about dean's sexuality, because in my mind it was ABSOLUTELY about his being a victim of sexual violence, which was far more important to me, as it is discussed far less often.

BUT, knowing what we know now (that cas was always canonically in love with dean, and it's all but canon that dean really was bisexual), i'm willing to entertain another notion:

Sam: ...you're what? Complicit? Weak? Evil? Dean: For starters, yeah.

the "evil" bit never really sat right with me as part of the narrative of sexual violence, aside from touching on dean's general self-loathing, but it fits the narrative of being closeted MUCH better. dean, a self-hating homophobic bisexual, would probably use a similar word, if not something heavy as "evil," to describe the way he feels about other men. it's a malevolent feeling. (if you're like me and ascribe to the jackles headcanon that dean resorted to turning tricks to make food money when he was underage, we could also consider the extremely fucked up fact that almost every queer man dean's ever met is someone who hurt him.)

dean is ashamed of who and what he is, and the way he feels about cas. living like that, that's violence. he lives violently day in and day out with that feeling. (and amara knows it. it's worth nothing that she uses cas to communicate with dean MULTIPLE times in this season, both by carving messages on his body and psychically, through his own connection to dean - and when dean "betrays" her to rescue casifer, she's horrified at whatever she sees in his head.)

equating sexual violence to the violence of being closeted

but what's amazing about this weird badly-written little 11.13 conversation (and indeed, the season-long plotline of dean and his shame) is that we don't HAVE to assign it to the purposes of being about sexual violence OR about being closeted. it can be and IS both.

my favorite reading of this is that BEING IN THE CLOSET IS INHERENTLY A VIOLENT AND TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCE. many of the same feelings are involved: shame, guilt, self-loathing. sam's comforting words to dean - that he will not be blamed or judged - are equally applicable in both cases. dean is a victim of sexual violence, and he is also in the closet, and both of these experiences are traumatic ones, and they are intermingled with each other in a big way (again, if you're into dean-turned-tricks headcanon, they are intermingled INSEPERABLY - the sexual violence being one of the direct causes of dean not wanting to accept or address his own sexuality).

the bait-and-switch

the real galaxy brain moment of this whole thing begins at the end of 11.22 (an otherwise lackluster episode that played sam's lucifer trauma for laughs how dare they ugh god whatever that's off-topic but i HATE IT) when amara and chuck finally have the confrontation she's been fighting all season for. she is attacked by witches, demons, angels, and then stabbed by lucifer himself, before she's finally on her knees before chuck, and then we get this little exchange:

Chuck: I'm sorry. For this, for everything. Amara: An apology at last. What's sorry to me? I spent millions of years crammed into that cage alone and afraid...

maybe you already know where i'm going with this. a cage isn't so different from a closet when we're working with metaphors, right?

amara talks about her grievances with chuck many times throughout season 11 - that he was spoiled, that he created the earth to stroke his ego, that he couldn't handle her as she was. and once he finally makes his appearance he tells it his own way - that he had no choice but to lock amara away, that she couldn't stand the things and people he made, that he did it to protect people. but something about THIS conversation in particular - even though it's not written into the dialogue - gives me a particular kind of vibe.

there is something innately, unspeakably WRONG with amara. i don't mean unspeakable as in very bad, i mean unspeakable as in LITERALLY undefinable. it's just like dean being unable to put a name to the pull she has over him. no one talks directly at it or about it, they go in circles around it, but facts are facts: amara simply couldn't be allowed to exist as she was because there was just something innately wrong with her. and it's this conversation in particular, the first one they have together onscreen, that really slams that feeling home for me.

the entire time chuck and amara are talking, the camera repeatedly cuts to dean - he is so visibly upset that the first time i watched this, i was certain he was about to jump into the middle of things and put himself between the two of them. we're meant to believe that dean has trouble hearing this because he "cares" about amara, but i have a different take.

i think it's empathy. real, actual empathy - not the kind of feeling that amara had to force out.

stay with me here. eventually, after chuck tries to lock amara away again, she gets her second wind, attacks him, and leaves him for dead - and as he dies, the sun dies with him, and so too does all life on earth.

in the following episode, the finale, amara finds her way to a park, where she takes in god's creation, visibly upset as she realizes that his flowers die at her touch (again, hammering home the point that there is something innately wrong with her that means she cannot live in this world), and eventually speaks with an old lady feeding the birds.

Woman: Do you want to feed them? Amara: I shouldn't. Woman: I've been feeding these birds going on 20 years now. They're practically family. And I know that makes me sound like a crazy old bat, but...heck. My husband died a couple of years ago, and my son keeps slipping me these brochures for retirement communities - a.k.a. where they send old folks to die, but not to make a fuss about it. Amara: So you hate him. Woman: Well, a little bit. Sometimes. But you know family. Even when you hate them, you still love them.

this speech brings tears to amara's eyes. what's more, she spends this entire section with her hands in her lap. after a season of killing her way through humanity to get god's attention, she is afraid to touch these birds for fear of killing them. she feels empathy for them. she and dean are connected, after all - so as soon as he began to feel true, genuine empathy - so did she.

when dean shows up to kill amara (via a bomb made out of souls hidden in his chest), she immediately clocks his plan. she practically dares him to do it, and - he can't. he is, as always, helpless against her.

what dean does instead is talk to her. more importantly, he listens to her. when she says her brother sent dean here to execute her, he tells her chuck actually didn't want this - that it was actually his very last resort. he asks her if this, the death of everything, is what she wanted, and she tells him all she really wanted was payback. again, dean EMPATHIZES:

Dean: Yeah, that's revenge. It'll get you out of bed in the morning, and when you get it, it feels great... for about five minutes. I've been there. Me and Sam, we have had our fair share of fights—more than our share. But no matter how bad it got, we always made it right because we're family. I need him. He needs me. And when everything goes to crap, that's all you've got—family. Now you might be a—an all-powerful being...but I think you're human where it counts. You simply need your brother.

what's really neat about this section, and the scene before it where amara confronts her brother, is that they mark the first times dean felt any sort of genuine emotion for amara at all - one that she didn't force out of him or one that he felt for someone else that she just took for herself. dean genuinely EMPATHIZES with her - after everything she's done to him and his loved ones, and to the people on earth, dean sees the humanity in her. that's kind of his and sam's M.O., loving monsters into men - the number of non-human adversaries who eventually became allies because of the winchesters’ empathy or liking for them or even just their influence is staggering. cas, gabriel, meg, benny, crowley, rowena, metatron, to name a few off the top of my head - and now amara.

and then we get THIS:

Dean: You don't want to be alone. Not really. I mean, hell. Maybe that's why you wanted me. But deep down, you didn't really want me... 'cause I'm not him.

(emphasis mine)

and here's my galaxy brain take: dean empathizes with amara - TRULY empathizes with her - because they're both queer (or queer-coded).

I KNOW THIS SOUNDS NUTS BUT LISTEN. this weird creepy stalkery hetero "romance" was fake on both sides all along. dean and amara are the same. that unspeakable and innate wrongness lives in both of them. they're self-loathing and furious at god for his failures and callousness, outcasts in a world that isn't for them, a world that has HURT them simply on account of them being what they are. the violence done to amara was done to her BECAUSE of this unspeakable wrongness about her - her queerness, or her queer-codedness - and we already decided this was, for the purposes of this season, functionally the same violating and traumatic experience as sexual violence.

amara's been using dean to try and replace chuck this entire season. it's some weird comphet bullshit tied in with the fact that dean was the first part of chuck's creation she ever saw. it stands to reason then that she was trying to force dean to be with her and love her the way she wanted to force CHUCK to be with her. that's part of why she started life as a baby - as someone he'd protect as he did his own sibling.

so in some weird, warped, very roundabout way, amara was enacting on dean the violence that chuck enacted on her - making him feel the same shame and weakness that chuck made HER feel when he locked her away eons ago. if amara unknowingly replaced chuck with dean, then she also unknowingly took part of her revenge on him. the only way she knew how to love someone was to force them to do it, because the only ways she had ever been loved until now involved violence - until dean and his moment of genuine empathy.

consider this final speech:

Dean: Maybe I can kill you. Or maybe I can't. Maybe if I pull this trigger, we all live happily ever after, or maybe we die bloody, or maybe it doesn't matter, because maybe there's a different way. So I'm gonna ask you again. Put aside the rage. Put aside the hate. And you tell me...what do you want?

dean is the only person in BILLIONS of years to ask her this! one queer to another! and it turns out that and all she wanted - the ONLY thing she needed - was to be understood and accepted by her family. immediately after this, amara summons chuck to their park, and the two of them talk it out in what is genuinely a very moving scene. amara - perhaps because of her connection with dean, perhaps because she's finally admitted to herself that she does still love her brother - sees the beauty in the world now, and feels love for it, and she doesn't want to destroy it anymore.

and at the end, after she's made her peace with god, and the sun has been turned back on, amara says:

Amara: Dean, you gave me what I needed most. I want to do the same for you.

and what do we get at the end of this episode? mary winchester, risen from her grave. dean's family. and - SPOILERS FOR SEASON 12 - though at first mary rejects dean (and sam) as being the same children she remembers from 1983, after a long and rocky road, at the end of the season, they eventually come to a reconciliation where she sees them for who they truly are. it's never ABOUT being queer because this show uses the fucking hays code when it comes to dean's sexuality, but it's still about being queer!!

dean gave amara what she needed - acceptance from her family - and she gave him that back in turn. all it took, the entire time, was one SHRED of empathy from one queer to another. all dean had to do was recognize her - REALLY recognize her - not as a replacement for sam or cas but as who she really was. and he saw himself in her, and the empathy that followed was genuine because it was the most natural thing in the world. in the end neither dean nor amara needed the "romance" they thought they did/were forced to want. they never did. they only needed acceptance and understanding.

supernatural is always about family and the power of love, and this season is no exception.

other great parts of season 11

if you're still not convinced, season 11 is full of other things that make it amazing:

GOD'S RETURN. after SIX YEARS he's back, this is canon, we finally get to hear what he has to say. they did more with him in a handful of episodes in this season than all of season 15

also, something else returns after six years. i'll give you a hint: it glows hot in god's presence. it was last seen being dropped into a motel trash can.

and of course the big one: lucifer and sam. what great callbacks to seasons 4-6 when lucifer and what he did to sam in hell was actually scary and mattered a lot! lucifer returns to being scary in this and i can't get enough of it.

this is also inseparable from sam's arc involving his faith - he begins praying again, having visions again, and is GUTTED when those prayers and visions lead him back to the place of his worst trauma. he gets to MEET GOD this season. it's fucking insane

the inherent melodrama of castiel, someone loved and trusted by the winchesters, being possessed by someone who they hate and who has hurt them. you get all of the sam drama with him accidentally trusting lucifer with his soul and his brother's life, and all the dean drama where he watches the devil run around in his boyfriend. also, misha collins does an uncanny impression of mark pellegrino. it's actually really creepy

somehow, they managed to make metatron, a deeply hated villain by all, ACTUALLY LIKEABLE. for TWO whole episodes. it was NUTS

this season starts off rowena's long arc with lucifer and her lucifer trauma that eventually becomes the catalyst of her bonding so profoundly with sam <3 best friends forever <333

sam and dean bond with a pair of canonically gay hunters who DON'T DIE

billie is introduced in this season and she's super hot and cool and awesome

eileen is also introduced in this season. her arc mirrors sam's so well, it's SO good. i never though i'd care about sam and a girl who wasn't jess, but i care about them SO MUCH it makes me insane. if you don't love eileen you're wrong!

anyway, watch season 11. it's weird but it's really fucking good. THANK YOU FOR COMING TO MY TED TALK

[spn masterpost]

#supernatural #dean winchester #amara #supernatural meta #destiel #in a roundabout way #i needed a 5th tracked tag lol #i stayed up ALL NIGHT writing this but im gonna be a smartie and schedule it to go up at noon when ppl are awake #liz watches spn #liz's meta #liz's spn stuff #liz makes stuff #long post #just in case the cut fails #this meta really is 3800 words long lol #as a bonus it was implied in late season 10 that amara is the older sibling #even though they retconned it and made them twins later #like amara and dean are both eldest sisters.......

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Okay, so there’s a lot going on right now to do with Brendon Urie from Panic! At The Disco, and I figured I’d give my take on it.

Before I start, I should say I got most of my information from other people on social media - YouTube, Twitter, Tik Tok, and I read some articles. Because of where I got most of my information, I won’t be able to link anything, so I implore you to do your own research as well. That being said, here’s a brief rundown of what happened, with my opinion at the end.

First and foremost, Brendon has been called out for being racist. There’s a Vine of him mouthing along to the n-word, and while he didn’t outright say it, he did still mouth along to it. Being white, he had no business doing that, and he should’ve censored the word out entirely, but he didn’t. He’s since apologized and been a supporter of BLM, even going onto Twitch when George Floyd was killed, and making a post on his Instagram about how white privilege affects him, all of which can be found on YouTube or Instagram.

Secondly, he was accused of being transphobic. Most of you are probably confused because he is pansexual himself, and he wrote a song about bisexuality, and he can be found decked out in pride flags at concerts. However, there is a video of him at an interview saying the transphobic slur, and since he’s cisgender, he has no right using that word. From what I know, he was explaining his sexuality when someone asked him about it, and he quoted what someone had said to him, which included the transphobic slur. He’s since apologized on Periscope (I’m not sure if there’s a YouTube video of that or not), and as we all know, he’s been a huge advocate for LGBTQ+ rights ever since.

There’s also a video of Brendon joking about raping fans at a concert. You can find this on YouTube, where he says something along the lines of “If I see you after the show, I’m gonna fuck you. I don’t care if you want it - I care more if you don’t!” If the video isn’t edited shorter, you can also hear Dallon Weekes say “And I’m gonna watch,” though no one ever mentions that. This isn’t me trying to get Dallon cancelled. Quite frankly, I don’t like cancel culture and I think people are way too trigger happy to destroy someone’s career. My only reason for interjecting this is if you’re gonna get mad at Brendon for making that joke, then get mad at Dallon for adding onto it, too.

More recently, he’s been accused of sexually assaulting a fan. Someone on Twitter by the name of Kam retold a story of being a minor when he met Brendon, and Brendon was kissing and touching him inappropriately despite knowing he was a minor. There were also other accounts saying similar things happened to them. However, from what I know, the whole Kam thing was actually a Wattpad self-insert fanfiction that someone stole the plot of, and the multiple different accounts were actually one person, and they were lying, so there’s absolutely no evidence of Brendon sexually assaulting a minor or behaving inappropriately in that way whatsoever.

Lots of people also get upset with the Zack Hall thing. Zack Hall was Brendon’s bodyguard for a long time, and Breezy Weekes recently came out and said that Zack Hall basically sexually harassed her the entire time Dallon was in Panic!. Other people came out and said they had similar encounters with Zack Hall, and he’s now fired from Panic!. Similarly, when Kenny Harris was accused of sexually harassing/assaulting minors, he was also fired. People are upset because Brendon is remaining friends with Zack Hall, though I really don’t think that’s any of our business. As far as I see it, they’ve been close friends for years, and it’s hard to just drop that, even if they do something you disagree with. Also, Zack was fired, which is what people wanted. I think it’s dumb to hold Brendon to a friend’s actions, especially when he already fired him and removed him from fans, like everyone was asking him to do.

Also (and I’m not as well informed with this as other topics), there’s an interview somewhere of Ryan Ross being uncomfortable with Brendon’s stage gay. I’m not sure how many times they had that conversation or how often Ryan asked Brendon to not touch him or do the stage gay routine with him, or how many times Brendon disregarded that once they were onstage. Brendon should’ve respected Ryan’s wishes and not touched him the first time he was asked, but again, I don’t know the specifics here, so this is all I can comment on here.

[Edit: I had someone reach out to me in regards to the above information, and I decided to keep everything I originally wrote as context. According to them, there isn’t an interview of Ryan saying he’s uncomfortable with the stage gay, and it was all in fact scripted between the two of them. It sounds like people basically made up Ryan being uncomfortable with the act, in which case, these accusations also appear to be entirely false.]

As we all know, Brendon struggled with drug and alcohol addiction, which literally impairs judgment and makes you do things you normally wouldn’t do. This includes saying things you shouldn’t (making rape jokes to a supposedly 18+ audience while likely drunk, high, or both) and doing things you shouldn’t (the stage gay routine). I’d also like to point out that a lot of the stuff he said at shows was probably to entertain, particularly the stage gay stuff, and there’s no way in hell you can convince me the audience didn’t eat that shit up. I wouldn’t be surprised if he did those things to get a reaction, and you know he fucking got one, so while I disapprove of him making Ryan uncomfortable, I also understand the audience there, expecting it, probably didn’t help either.

I think that’s everything. As you can see, it’s a lot of stuff, but I don’t think any of it is as bad as people say. Mouthing the n-word once doesn’t make a person racist. Saying a transphobic slur once doesn’t make a person transphobic. He especially isn’t either of these things when you take into account how he’s since apologized and shown incredible support for BLM and the LGBTQ+ community, which I think says a lot about him as a person.

This is going off track a little bit, but I think it’ll make a point. My dad grew up in the seventies, in a time where homophobia was rampant and racism was common. My dad grew up homophobic and racist, and he used homophobic slurs all the time as a teenager and a young adult. To this day, my dad has prejudiced views about race and sexuality, but he’s obviously changed his opinion since then, with education and understanding. He never apologized for the things he said back then, mostly because he isn’t famous and no one has called him out for it.

The point is, if people held my dad responsible for things he said in high school and college, when he was the most ignorant, the most sheltered, the least exposed to other people and cultures, then he’d be labeled racist and homophobic now (which he technically is, simply by virtue of being white and straight, but that’s a conversation for another time). We need to give people room to grow, give them resources to educate themselves and combat their ignorance. Brendon Urie has DONE that, multiple times! He’s never been accused of racism aside from mouthing the n-word in a Vine, which, should I remind you how old Vine is? He’s never been accused of being transphobic aside from that one time he used a slur, when he wasn’t even using his own words.

I’m not trying to excuse what he’s done. Using those slurs, making Ryan uncomfortable [edit: probably not true], joking about rape, none of those things are okay, and that’s pretty damn obvious to everyone, I think. However, it’s also evident he’s changed since then. As far as I know, he’s never used a slur since then. He’s an advocate for BLM and the LGBTQ+ community. He’s struggled with addiction, which isn’t easy for anyone, and he’s been able to grow and become a better person since then. I absolutely agree with holding him accountable for what he said and did, especially the things we don’t agree with. He’s a public figure, and he has to be aware of what he says and how his actions have consequences. That’s just how it works when you’re in the public eye.

Do I think Brendon Urie deserves to be cancelled? Absolutely not. He’s human, and all humans change. I’m not the same person I was ten years ago, and ten years from now, I’ll be someone else entirely. If someone held me responsible for every mistake I ever made and completely disregarded my progress and personal growth, I’d look like a horrible person. Why aren’t we keeping that energy for Brendon? Hold him accountable. Keep him responsible for what he did. And allow him to improve. Allow him to educate himself. Allow him to better himself. Allow him to be fucking human, for fuck’s sake.

So, there’s my take. I’m still a Panic! At The Disco fan, and I’m still a huge fan of Brendon Urie himself. Unless he regresses completely and becomes Kanye West or some shit, I will continue to support him. He’s not even as problematic as some other people’s faves, so I’m not even gonna feel bad for continuing to support him. I’m acknowledging his shortcomings and recognizing his progress, because I understand that this isn’t black and white or two dimensional.

If his actions aren’t exuseable for you, then that’s fine. If you can’t be a fan of him of Panic! anymore, then that’s your decision. For me personally, I think his growth says a lot about his character, and I’m gonna continue to stick it out with him. You don’t have to like him, but quit being so close-minded about the good he’s done in all of this. It makes you look excited to destroy a person’s career, and quite frankly, I’m tired of trigger-happy, cancel culture junkies. Take it elsewhere.

#brendon urie #panic! at the disco #brendon urie allegations #rape tw #drugs tw #addiction tw #alcohol tw #racism tw #transphobia tw #homophobia tw #slurs tw #cancel culture #thepunkbug

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I agree with everything you have said about MDZS, i'm always worried to tell my opinion because of the fandom. You see, if I criticize the bath dubcon scene when Lan Wangji is drunken, then i don't understand chinese culture and i'm racist :-/

Anyway I agree when you said that the ending in the novel is quite unbalanced to Wei Wuxian. Yeah, because his relationship with Lan Wangji after the events is codependency at its finest. The drama ending instead gives more space to their maturity and progress.

why, thank you! I wrote a monstrously large response which you can find below the cut. tl; dr: I'm glad you agree, but I think it's...complicated?

coming to into the fanbase fresh from the show, it was jarring how different it was from the novel and it was upsetting the lengths that people (including big-name translators and fans with huge followings) would go to defend romanticized or downplayed depiction of sexual assault and the homophobic tropes that went along with them. and it did take a lot of research and thought on my part to come to where I am today wrt the novel. I trust maybe one blogger who's fairly popular and don't interact with anyone else. I can provide some blog recs if you don't want to interact with those sorts anymore

however I do want to be really careful when navigating this space, because it is a work created in a different language, and society, and cultural context than the one I live in, and especially as a white fan I want to take any possibilities of racism very seriously. because since the show blew up I have seen many posts from Chinese fans/diaspora fans about the racism in the fanbase, from making jokes about people's names to infantilizing the lead men to trying to 'correct' the political structure to plain misreading the novel, sometimes willfully so. it's easy to assume the worst, and I have definitely struggled with that, especially with fetishizing translators. but it's worth it to try to understand it in good faith if we're going to critique it. and just to be clear - the dubcon bath scene was rape. it was recognized textually as rape. the problem was with how it was treated afterwards, as well as how the entire relationship was handled. but actually, I don't see their relationship as codependent by the end? it's not ideal and I kind of dislike them as a couple, especially with how possessive novel lwj is, but wwx does leave for hunts and such fairly regularly. The cql ending was so beautiful and romantic by comparison and the respect I had for both characters was much greater - for lwj to let wwx go free and for wwx to take the time he needed to care for himself and adjust before rushing into an intense relationship is development for both of them I love it 🥰

BUT I don't feel like I'm in a position (white bi american in a liberal family in ny) to tell lgbt cn fans how to feel about this novel, or to celebrate its censorship. I love cql and I do think it's better in a lot of ways to the novel, but it's also a product that was approved by a homophobic censor. homophobia impacting real people in china isn't something I want to ignore in this discussion either, and with the novel, I've seen both sides. I've seen plenty of lgbt chinese and easian fans who hate the novel or refuse to read it because of its fetishism and homophobia materially benefitting a cishet woman. and media portrayals of mlm like that can do real harm in communities who aren't exposed to other lgbt content. but it's also massively popular and apparently a lot of lgbt fans like it locally, probably for having a compelling bi lead and a gay romance with a happy ending. so there's no one easy answer! any group of people will have contradictory and varying views. so that's why I urge everyone new to the show and to cmedia (especially if you're white!) to research, come to their own conclusions, and err on the side of caution when listening to and boosting the voices of people most involved, who are chinese lgbt people and especially mlm

now I absolutely despise the sex scenes in the novel and the general portrayal of their relationship, and vastly prefer the more balanced, trustful, knowing, and mature version we see in the show, and I believe that I'm in the right for this (plus the side characters were more fleshed out, the flashback was better organized, there was more emotional weight to things happening). there's also the conversation to be had that acting like mlm don't understand consent is deeply homophobic, and white fans acting like chinese mlm don't understand consent is racist on top of that. and the issues of the novel neither originally stem from chinese media nor are unique to china - iirc, danmei arose in popularity due to the rise of BL and yaoi in japan. and you see many of the the same stereotypes in BL as you do in danmei.

also I don't know if you're new to this space, but if you want to read a danmei that treats its gay leads normally, I heard golden stage is really good. if you want to read about women falling in love amid battles and political schemes, female general eldest princess is probably the most famous baihe (big warning for racism, xenophobia, and genocide against central asian people). and if you like dramas like cql - well, I don't think there's anything like cql but I found legend of fei fun and lwj's actor plays a love interest again. the show guardian was also adapted from a danmei and I heard that was really powerful

this got out of hand! thanks for your ask, and please understand none of this was directed at you specifically, or in fact at anybody. I feel responsible to engage with media critically and respectfully, and I want to encourage everyone else to do that same. especially if you came in cold, like I did. I can also link you to some posts made by easian and central asian users talking about their take of the novel, including their issues with it. if you read this far, I really appreciate it and I hope you have a good night :)

#whew. sorry anon I just had a lot to say #rattling around in my head fo. a long time ig #i really hope you come to enjoy your time here I really do love a lot of the fan creations #but it's dark out there #asks #rape m #mdzs txp

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do you think panic!’s management/brendon are gonna do anything about the whole zack thing?

i don’t know. it strikes me how they announced their firing of kenny in less than 48 hours after the disclosures started coming forward, but kenny was actually less integrated into panic than zack is. a lot of people think zack is just a bodyguard, but he’s been wearing several hats for years (panic stuff/storage, panic’s twitter, tour management).

kenny also i think had a very different personality and temperament that he showed to people (eg goofy friendly guy, polite, easy to get along with) vs what he got up to with 12-18 year old girls (inappropriately sexual convos considering the age gap, talked and bribed them into sending inappropriate pictures, most of which didn’t cross over into child porn under the law eg bikinis, bras, using his position as a guy in a band to do it--the fucker knew what he was doing). it shocked me.

zack is openly very vulgar (some of which i don’t have an issue with in themselves), even pornographic, and he hides behind “it’s my sense of humor” and “i’m just really sexual” (when i think he’s more oriented toward making people uncomfortable, pushing boundaries, turning almost everything into something to laugh at). he’s “so sexual” he seeks out porn of women who’ve been hacked and had their nude photos published without consent, eg emily ratajkowski. now, that was something in the news and easily known, not one of those assumption of consent and agreement to distribution that men (and many women) justify their porn use on eg if it’s on a porn site that’s legal, it must be consensual, the exit interview (which guarantees that women say it was fine/fun/consensual: they don’t get paid for the hell they went through until after they give that interview). he sought them out because they were violations, private, not to be shared (indeed emily called one book of nudes published of her just that: a violation). he seems more into the on one level, i was even thinking sexual compulsiveness (i don’t think it is an addiction, and often men will use that as an excuse and to bullshit and gaslight, but it is compulsive) was at work too.

his “hyper sexuality” is more about LOOKING than experiencing. about women looking certain ways for him to gaze at (eg getting women to flash their breasts, photos of bra’d and topless women) than being sexual with him per se.

i had previously thought that there must be something to him because he was with his ex wife for seven years (couple for 7, married for 4 i believe), and she left him because she had fallen for another women and now understood her sexuality to be lesbian. meaning, there must’ve been some things goin for him (eg his and b’s eat pussy no matter what periscope moment) for him to hold onto her for 7 years :P

i thought his humor was a joke, sarcasm, and didn’t know about the scope of it, thought he wasn’t like that in intimate/sexual situations with women or men, because there’s been indications including his own statement of bisexuality that he’s bi. turns out, it’s not sarcasm, joking around... it’s how he is. i now think it’s more like he pornifies women so much it sometimes gets boring and he turns to objectifying men too. breezy would be the clearest case of it being how he is because she had to tolerate him for nearly a decade and he didn’t even stop when she got more assertive in trying to stop him. she said he got even worse. again, that is aligned with what i’ve noticed about him: he pushes, and pushes, until he’s on the other side of the damn boundary field. that people dislike it often encourages him and he continues or worsens it.

but i wasn’t surprised like i was with kenny, although i believed everything with kenny even quicker, because there was so much evidence, eg screenshots of his words, selfies. i’m almost surprised there hasn’t been more than the one accusation of sexual assault (the opportunistic touching of the 13 year old girl’s breasts), because he is a very impulsive, almost compulsive person re his “i’m so sexual.” that there is only one public accusation of that is what has me a bit cautious of that one. would he even hit on, touch, take advantage of a 13 year old? it is completely plausible considering what else we know.

something else that strikes me is the time where he joked on periscope about his dad sexually abusing him. it was one of the few times b tried to shut him up, spoke over him, etc.

another thing i’ve wondered: if his behavior has something to do with jealousy, aggrieved entitlement (thinks that he deserves “it” as a man, sees other guys getting “what he wants” while he often doesn’t get “it” aka the sex he wants with the women he wants) over how much women/fans/groupies/girls (and boys too ;) ) go for band mates, especially b. i think that was at work with dallon and breezy. he probably thought he should have “access” to her that dallon and her own will and desires (for dallon, not for zack, she actually strikes me as somewhat “dominating” sexually) was in the way of. that she should of been there for his entertainment and consumption and pleasure, not been in a sexual partnership with gentle female dominance with dallon.

b obviously knew at least some of this (he’s heard his jokes for about 14 years, including sexist, misogynist, homophobic, ableist, etc ones), and would have seen some things too. the question is how much. some of it was, as i said before, “just” (as in normalized) the environment of all-male bands with mostly to all male crew, that zack partook in too, and b would have seen a lot of that as well.

most things zack has been called out on is within that realm of normal (watching and collecting porn, verbal harassment disguised as fun joking around, “show us your tits,” band-related bribes by bts guys in exchange for sex acts, taking photos of women in their bra at shows, the topless collage and posting them publicly, mocking disabled people)... kenny breached that normal “bros doing bro things” code by going after girls under 16, as young as 12. in undeniable ways (lots of screenshots, several girls who came forward, and did i say lots of screenshots?). the normal bros couldn’t stand for that, both because of the age (”pedophiles” are nearly universally reviled at the same time as being part of the norm men are trained into by other men from preteenhood eg barely legal/incest/“age play” porn, no body hair on women, how “daddy,” ddlg and similar themes have even entered vanilla sex) and how undeniable it was.

that was a long way to do more zack musing and to say: i don’t know. he already knew a lot of it, although something that struck me was that b seemed more comfortable in that periscope with sarah where she was talking about the nude wallpaper talking about zack having some nudes of men than the general discussion/discussion of having nudes of women.

edit: something else i saw was that b’s dad would continue or worsen zack’s tweets several times. wonder how much boyd is like zack? there was even one that just said he (zack) was single again with a photo of a pug (or similar) dog with sunglasses (suggesting he looked like the dog) but boyd turned it into a fucking rape joke (the hide your wives one). wonder if b grew up with boyd talking about women in similar ways?

#zack hall

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facepalming-since-chernobyl · 4 years

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Why SC shippers are still pieces of crap, episode 249276187329432

So, Jeremy and Chris joked about MonWinn being married and here we have vultures having no lives. Or having lives, but focused on shitting on others because, guess what, they can’t be happy without it.

Case, number 1

So what we have here? A bunch of homophobes? Last time I checked we KMs were all called like that, because we didn’t ship their precious crack ship, but here they have a problem with people shipping two guys.

oh sure, Kara doesn’t do anything else just stares at Lena’s boobs, especially when she is TRAPPED IN A KRYPTONITE CAGE AND TORTURED BY LENA. I guess they ignore the tiny, tiny, tinyyyyyyyyy argument why we don’t ship SC - because Lena is a fucking TOXIC PIECE OF CRAP AND NO ONE SANE would ship Kara with her. As for people who scream about toxic ships and why it’s so wrong about shipping karamel or guardiancorp it’s quite amazing how they ignore their OWN FUCKING STANDARDS since season 3. So, what double standards, sweethearts???

Case 2

Here we can only pray I’m afraid, because the amount of shit these two people have in their brains is quite amazing.

Calling Mon-El “ex-slave” owner while stanning Lena is the best joke in SG fandom, too bad Scs are too dumb to realize the irony (maybe in some years, Rao knows). Also, saying that someone is a rapist, with basically zero evidences is one of the most disgusting shit you can say, but well - SC shipper, what to expec? It’s like saying that Lena killed homeless people to get the hearts she experimented on in s4, the problem is she murdered Adam and then Lex, so you can start to wonder :)

Case 3

Yeah, and they gave Lena a villain story, including enslaving people and aliens, raping (oops!) their minds, murdering them with cold blood and torturing the main hero of the show. Irony, again, especially because Mon-El created Legion in Kara’s memory and put a COMET on the Legion rings. While Lena TORTURED Kara and wanted to made her a robot.

Case 4

The hypocrisy is that for YEARS now SCs have been moaning how disgusting we are for shipping Karamel, how we can’t do it, how much we can screw ourselves with our “ex-slave rapist white privileged fuck boy”, how Karamel is over party blah blah, while HATING ON ACTORS for basically breathing and sending them DEATH THREATS and other shit and they say we are mad because they ship Kara and Lena - look at my dead body rolling on the floor, crying from laughter. Woot, woot!

Case 5

Is Sc/Lena fandom going to call Melissa homophobe again? Call her a whore? Send her and Jeremy death threats? Try to make their career flop? Cancel almost whole SG cast for calling their ship FRIENDS like they are in the canon? Made fun of real life relationship? Because oh boy, do we really want to come back to sweet SDCC17 where SC fandom showed the most disgusting face of the fandom?

Case 6

Oh look, real representation fighters have spoken, because they know shit! Bow to the queens and kings, guys! And awwwww, they allowed us to ship mm ships! We are soooo fucking thankful! Like I don;t know, should we sent them baskets with fruits? Roses? Unicorns????

Once again, why we think SC is so toxic? Lena just tortured Kara with kryptonite, manipulated her for months, plotted revange, shot her with misseles, yelled at her, accused of doing shit, produced kryptonite, lied, manupualted blah, blah, I mean, relationship goals???

Case 6 continues

*Takes a deep breath*

*Laughs like a mad hyena*

*calms down*

*nope, laughs more*

Ok, so here we have the example of the hmmm, shippers who... ship two, white, so far straight, privileged, WHITE, hot, young, pretty woman, who so far are not representation, ignoring TWO canon lesbian couples (SS and AK) in favor of their delusional white bread? :)))) Also, friendly reminder that, both Alex love interests were POC characters - real representation. Plus, Lena’s two male LI were POC guys who were horribly hated by basically whole SC fandom, so what? Following this amazing logic of the idiots above, scs are racists?

And, no matter how many times I said I ship/like/support SS or AL I have heard it doesn’t matter, I’m still a homophobe, so you can’t win as long as you are not SC, huh?

But to sum up, let me say that fucking once.

SCS, do you know why we don’t ship Lena and Kara? Why a lot of us want to throw up every time we see Snowflake Luthor’s face on our screens? Why we don’t give a FLYING fuck about her privileged white ass? No, it’s not because we are homophobes - sorry to dissapoint you. You know why? It’s because of YOU :)

Yes, you and your constant fucking moaning about how Mon-El was a rapist, fuck boy, toxic piece of crap everywhere, under every SG official account and post, in our fucking tags, under ACTORS’ posts on twitter and instagram, while your fave piece of crap has done 100 times worse shit than he ever thought about doing.

You and your constant bitching about karamel being toxic and a bad example for little girls, while your fucking ship is made of a main hero of the show that you treat like a shit, becasue she “betrayed” (HA HA HA HA for repsecting the main character of the show) your precious murderous, toxic, slave owning, abusive idiot, who TORTURED, YES TORTURED Kara FOR KEEPING A SECRET.

You and your fucking “joking” about meltie, body shaming actors, shitting on every male character who is an obstacle for your shit, harassing cast, producers and writers to get your ship, bullying actors out of the show and CELEBRATING IT, bashing people, KIDS!, for liking something else than you. For doing and posting such disgusting shit that I can’t fucking believe someone with one decent cell in a body could have done that.

You know what you did? Every time I see someone with an avatar of Katie/Lena I immediatelly suspect this person is a piece of crap. Every time I see SC scene, gif or a post I’m disgusted. Not because it’s a ship made of two women, but because I associate that with a constanf fucking BULLYING and other disgusting shit I have been seeing for the past 3 years.

And you know why we ship MonWinn? Listen, because this is going to be a surprise of your lives- because we want our fave characters to be happy, you fucking morons. Got it? Or do I need to draw you a fucking comic book, because I suspect reading is too advanced for you all.

And now you can go fuck yourselves, because this and hating on others is the only thing that keep you alive. Without it you have no fucking idea what to do. What is absolutely HILARIOUS. And the fact you think we call you delusional, because of shipping SC. Nah, you are delusional because you think that after THREE FUCKING YEARS of you harassing and molesting whole SG crew and other fandoms, you are going to get your ship.

#antilena #gmo lena #my shit #gofuckyourselves2020 #na pohybel skurwysynom #veni vidi vici #anti sc fandom

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