#anti beth

[punkeropercyjackson]

Annabeth Chase:

Is constantly insulting Percy in a way that feels like a cishet person's idea of flirting and that to normal people is more sibling bickering than anything else

Had a 'crush' on the guy who basically raised her since she was 7 that was based off nothing but him being the camp heartthorb and an unachivable older guy

Who she in the last book of the first series explicitly stated was like a brother to her but that she never loved romantically with the implication being that she was just confused from lack of experience with romance due to her young age at the time

And the only other guy she's ever shown interest in-Including even just calling him attractive-is her childhood best friend who everyone has been insisting she's been in love with since she was 12 and that she's destined to be with him without ever actually asking either of them what they wanted

Which was validated by the same 'love goddess' who told Reyna no demigod would heal her heart in a flashback in the same book where she has more chemistry with Thalia than she did with any guy she'd ever interacted with

Instantly liked Piper for the same reasons she antagonizes Percy

Is totally a lesbian guys

[lab-gr0wn-lambs]

Ok do the thousands of Bethyl shippers realize it means they're headcanoning Daryl as a pedophile or

[guildling]

i appreciate him very much

[thaliasthunder]

and to think these motherfuckers all saw him as some creepy weirdo they needed to keep a safe distance from and debated to just LEAVE HIM TO DIE. i am trembling with rage i will burn them alive i will fucking stab them open i will feast with their guts i will

[thecarnivorousmuffinmeta]

Muffin, what is your favorite March sister from Little Women? Do you think Jo or any of her sisters would survive Edward?

Well, I'll answer your second question first.

Who Survives Edward?

The funny thing is that most people survive Edward quite easily. If you're an ordinary person who's not on Edward's 1920's hit list then he pays you very little mind and you never really interact with him. For all Jessica annoyed him, she was never in danger from him, nor was Angela, nor many of the other characters we meet.

Even Mike wasn't Edward's concern until Edward became obsessed with Bella and decided Mike was his rival.

So, the March sisters would all be absolutely fine. The likelihood of them smelling as good as Bella is very small, remember Aro's 3500 years old and he hasn't come across his own singer once. Edward's probably not going to run into another singer and it's very unlikely to be one of the March girls.

Now, if they smelled as good as Bella...

Beth and Meg have the best shot at it. Jo is too assertive and too myopic, Edward wouldn't approve of her treatment of Laurie and then her getting upset when Laurie goes and marries Amy. Amy is too self-centered (look, guys, the recent movie was made by Amy stans and I have to go off the book here but even in the recent movie Edward would see it this way).

Beth is incredibly sweet and caring and actually kind of what Edward believes he loves in Bella. She's caring at great cost to herself and with no resentment after scarlet fever destroys her health, she's the heart of keeping her dysfunctional family together, she even sweetly plays piano. Her sickly nature after the fever would also be a bonus for Edward as it means that they're in a doomed romance where woe he could turn her and remove all her health problems but he can't and she's very likely to die young. It also means she'll always need him to care for her and adds to her Victorian style frailty. Beth, for her own part, being the youngest and generally overlooked for her sisters because of her health/youngness/sweetness would probably be very flattered and into this mysterious hot boy who is paying attention to her.

Beth might very well survive until she dies of health complications.

Meg might get by in that she's generally... tolerable. She does what's best for her/the family, does what Aunt Marge thinks is best, and quietly gets married and lives her life the way she's supposed to. The trouble is if she attracts Edward's notice...

Without Bella's mental shield I don't think he's convincing himself she has an entirely different personality and I don't see him being into her. I take it back, Meg dies.

My Favorite March Sisters

I like all of them except Meg, I find Meg boring, which is kind of the point of her, so I guess it works out.

EDIT:

I forgot Beth is the second youngest, not the youngest who is Amy.

[noajennifers]

as you sunk your teeth into me.

[longearedhare]

besides the fact that the age gap is gross, the thing I don’t like about bethyl is that their relationship is so much more INTERESTING if it isn’t romantic/sexual.

You have two people who are incredibly traumatized and could not be more different (Beth is by all accounts fairly privileged but she’s seen awful things, including her father’s head getting hacked off with a sword. Daryl had an awful upbringing and had to grapple with conflicting loyalties between his horrible brother and the group that protected him, as well as all the deaths he’s seen.)

Daryl resents Beth because she’s getting to have a childhood of sorts, even during an apocalypse. She has a loving family and everyone around her likes her. She sings, just because. He DEFINITELY resents that when she tried to end her life at the farmhouse, her family stopped her and loved her through it. When has anyone done that for Daryl?

At the same time, because Beth has allowed herself to love more people than Daryl (at this point in the show), she’s also lost a hell of a lot of people. Two boyfriends, her mom, her brother, her dad, and for all she knows, her sister. And she doesn’t let herself grieve any of it.

Meanwhile, Daryl can’t imagine letting himself be happy (and he still doesn’t let it happen for a WHILE after that). He’s presumably in his late thirties/early forties and truly believes he has nothing to show for it. Beth is able to see that he’s actually done a lot for the community and has become a true leader, completely of his own accord.

So they teach each other something. Beth tells Daryl he’s not worthless, he’s not nobody. Daryl realizes that Beth isn’t so much naive as she is trusting, and that it’s right for a 17-year-old to be able to trust people. He’s able to understand why she trusts him and believes in him.

And while Beth may certainly have some teenage crush on him because he saved her life, I think it’s so much more genuine if she teaches him these things because she really just believes he’s a good person. On Daryl’s side, his saving Beth and trying to find her after she gets taken PROVES how far he’s come, and adding a sexual/romantic motivation to that undoes a lot of his personal growth, imo.

[scarfacemarston]

About Mary-Beth, Karen and Abigail

This isn’t the most eloquent thing I’ve written, but oh well. I know, this is controversial and I may receive hateful anons and reposts. That’s just how people react to things on tumblr, especially when it’s a popular character (s.) If you don’t want to see something that is negative towards these Karen or Mary-beth, please scroll on. It’s easier on both of us.  I don’t think Karen and Mary-Beth like Abigail. I think Karen tolerates her more than likes her, but she does appear to like Jack. Karen was kind to Abigail while she was grieving over Jack’s disappearance. This is the only conversation I’ve seen with Karen and Abigail, whereas as Mary-Beth does not have a single conversation with Abigail except to ask where is Kieran and later to ask where is Tilly. I know because I have all the audio files.

Karen has had some harsh audio towards Abigail. I haven’t really found anything of Abigail being harsh towards Karen. Abigail is no saint, I am well aware. She has said her fair share of fiery things, but I haven’t seen it with the girls at all. I’m not counting Miss Grimshaw literally trying to force her back into prostitution - literally one of the worst fates for a woman like Abigail. (nevermind the trauma of being a sex worker back then....)  Outside of that, neither girl talk to her overall.  They aren’t seen standing together much except for Karen occasionally standing with her for coffee. (She’s admittedly not a morning person and doesn’t speak to anyone.) But they don’t eat together, they don’t sit together, play games, work,  etc This also extends to Jack. Mary-Beth especially isn’t seen around Jack. Karen does talk to him sometimes and is pretty friendly. Karen also called out John before when he tried to cheat. I think that’s more Karen being a good person and wanting something better for Jack and calling out John out rather than liking Abigail. Karen comes across as almost being disappointed that Abigail brought Jack into this life so to speak. I mean that in a more sexist matter in that “Well you knew the life and you had a kid. I’ll try to talk to John but you still caused this.” Abigail brings up the pity and disgust the gang has for her on multiple occasions. I mean, look where the girls are always stationed. I just feel like Mary-Beth and Karen are very selective as to the women they socialize with. However, the men don’t seem to be an issue. Molly and Miss Grimshaw both bring up how the girls gossip and the hurt from that as well.  Molly and Miss Grimshaw are tough characters and I totally understand the tension. No doubt whatsoever. A lot of the criticisms are valid, but it comes across to me that Mary-Beth has secret mean girl tendencies or something based off of what Miss Grimshaw says about “knowing her type” and looking so innocent. Arthur’s antagonizing comments also bring this up multiple times.  The exception is Tilly. Tilly came to the gang earlier than Mary-Beth and Karen, so it is very likely that Abigail and Tilly bonded. I hc that outside of Sadie, Abigail’s best friend is Tilly. Tilly also basically says as much in her epilogue letter. Tilly is also the kinder one who is willing to give others a chance. I think she would see more than anyone what Abigail was before versus now and I think Abigail adores and trusts her immensely with Tilly in return caring for her as she asks for advice or sits with her. She’s also trusted with Jack more so than any other member. Tilly is the only one who asks about Molly. Yes, I totally understand their critiques, but Tilly is the most selfless one when it comes to the other women. I think the “drama” with John is what ruined Abigail’s standing in the gang. She went from the highest earning woman outside of Grimshaw, as said by Arthur and Hosea, to nothing. No status in the gang whatsoever.  I am not saying they are absolutely horrible people or that you shouldn’t like them. I just don’t think that they are as pure and innocent as the fandom portrays them as, especially Mary-Beth. She reminds me of the type of  school bullies who were so liked that no one believed the victims when they spoke up. Again, I’m not saying don’t like them. I’m just pointing out that I think these are traits that pop up

[jasontoddssuper]

How would y'all react if i said they're is as much evidence for Percy Jackson being a trans woman as they're is for them being afrolatino.Btw if your response is anything but 'I think you're right',you're a coward and objectively wrong

[guardian-angel12]

my answer from now on when I get attacked by anti-Bethylers and pro-Carylers

[punkeropercyjackson]

Perachel antis after treating the autistic coded love interest who was ACTUALLY good for Percy like she's the spawn of hell just bc she was "getting in the way" of their heteronormative ass OTP:

'Luke was right' poser radicalists after shipping the 18 year old punk transfem who had a whole arc proving herself as unlike men as soon as she became a teen with the very men who abused her because they want to defile greek religious texts by being tradgays:

[disneyprinceronweasley]

d/ry stands love to go on about harry saving d/acos life but no one ever talks about ron saving him a second time by punching a death eater in the head - it’s almost as if they take things from the narrative and turn them in to something else 

[pynkhues]

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[thaliasthunder]

no bc the way nico must've been deeply crushed by percy that he never cursed him tho he had all the reasons in the world to do it? if percy had to deal w nico's curse w the arai monsters in tartarus he would've straight up died there

[shouta-edits]

could i have a bethyl (beth greene x daryl dixon from amc's the walking dead) moodboard with themes of nature, flowers, cottagecore, wolves, and bunnies? :3

[eddieydewr]

It's cute and all that Byler fans are excited and active again, but it doesn't change the fact a lot of them turned into performative activists last year, and I'm forever going to be cautious when following any Byler blogs, especially artists.

ah i know, feels like we gotta bite our tongue because we want to enjoy the byler fandom and will stans being united for once. it leaves a bitter taste because ik some of them still like noah, or aren’t even mad at him, but they have to keep up with the act to stay on the fandom’s good side. and we see through their bullshit after months of them slagging noah off or worse. but we don’t want to spoil or ruin the fun 🙃 even though we’ve been here the whole time supporting or being neutral about noah. bah.

but at least i’m here and there are a few blogs who feel the same as i do! it may feel isolating but we’re here. 🫶🏻