#anti satosugu

[dax-enfinity]

i hate that ship where you have to give the characters a complete 180 for them to even work on paper, and then you don’t even recognize those characters anymore because the shippers just make the ship the characters only existing trait.

[starswallowingsea]

Suguru Geto is a fucking eugenicist and I'm tired of people just brushing that aside to make silly gay fanart of him: an essay.

Hi hello JJK tag I have come to drop one singular essay to you and I do hope you'll at least listen, since it is a serious issue that needs to be addressed.

Before we get into the meat and potatoes of this essay, lets first define eugenics and why it's bad. Strictly speaking, eugenics is the movement for "racial purity" that requires the planned reproduction of people only within narrowly defined racial categories, as well as the elimination of undesirables within a population (oftentimes people of color, disabled people, and queer people) via sterilization or death. The movement began in the late 19th century and continues to some extent to this day. You can read more about it here if you're interested.

Eugenics goes hand in hand with other forms of bigotry and manifests in how people refer to each other, including some of the ways that Geto refers to non sorcerers within the manga, even before his death and subsequent possession of his body by a spirit. Geto refers to regular humans as "monkeys" and cleans himself in response to coming into contact with him. This sounds familiar, doesn't it?

This wording is very intentional on the part of Akutami and the translator. Geto is a villain and meant to be someone we see in disgust and while there are sympathetic villains in other series and I'm not going to say that you can never like villain characters (some of my own favorite characters are villains who have done fucked up things before), there is a difference between the two. Geto is specifically a representation of eugenicist, racist, xenophobic beliefs that exist in the real world. He is not someone who is fed up with the system, he is not someone who just wants to fuck around and find out.

This comment here further emphasizes my point. One of the core ideas behind scientific racism and eugenics is the idea of biological races or that people with different skin tones have different, distinct biological functions in their body. An example of this in our world involves GFR production and "race corrections" in kidney tests (source) that are only just starting to be phased out in the medical field. The idea of needing a race correction for something like kidney function is a product of scientific racism and indirectly plays into eugenics. Denying that people are the same race or even species as you because of uncontrollable factors (sorcerer abilities, skin color, country of origin, sexuality, gender, etc) is uh. Not a good thing!

"Monkeys" is a word that comes up frequently with Geto's talks on non sorcerers as well. It's a loaded term and again a deliberate choice on behalf of both Akutami and the translator to use it. Historically, due to scientific racism in the field of evolutionary science specifically, black people and people of color were assumed to be more closely related to monkeys and therefore "less evolved" than white people. It's a loaded word used with intention by Geto and by Akutami in the writing of Geto's character.

IN CONCLUSION can we please stop woobifying Geto as a character. His ideals and goals are an important part of him and watering him down to do gay shit with Gojo is really not what we should be doing with him in fan works. Yes Gojo's reaction to losing his friend to essentially the far right pipeline of eugenics and fascism is realistic and it's okay for Gojo to feel hurt and betrayed by this, but the reality is that Geto broke away because he believed so strongly that the world needed to be cleansed of non sorcerers and Gojo eventually accepted that he lost his friend, no matter how much it hurt to let go. This is an important part of Gojo's character arc and development but to ignore the everything about Geto's beliefs and never acknowledge them, or god forbid make JOKES about this stuff is a surefire way to make sure disabled people and people of color don't feel safe talking with you.

Notes:

I cannot stop you from shipping Satosugu or any other Geto ship. This essay was meant to inform people of the deeper meaning behind Geto's beliefs and maybe help some people see that real life issues are reflected in the media they consume. JJK is not a work that shies away from handling harder topics and this is no exception.

I will not be responding to any bad faith arguments on this post or in my inbox. If you have a genuine question feel free to come talk to me and I am willing to have a civil discussion with you about it, but calling me names or insulting me will be met with a block button so just save yourself the trouble and block me first.

[ricanvvas]

Following up with my previous blog,

This doesn’t just apply to one fandom, it applies to every anime fandom. Majority of the popular anime are about teamwork and friendship that portray strong platonic relationships.

Yes, surprisingly (for you), friends can feel heavily for each other without romance involved,

Yes, surprisingly (for you), males can be more than a romantic partner or homosexually involved, they are allowed to have best friends they deeply care about. The belief that males can only be involved in forms of romance or sexually is very toxic and misogynistic.

And yes, surprisingly (for you), it is completely possible (and common) for male best friends to be hung up on the other if they lose them. It is genuinely disgusting to twist grieving into something romantic.

Platonic relationships can be just as strong, if not, stronger than romantic ones. Because platonic relationships can be pushed further into sibling-hood.

Genuinely shameful. It’s like these people have never experienced a strong friendship. And to turn an anime that solely focuses on friendship and teamwork into something entirely else—seriously?

Leave the characters and the story be. It’s embarrassing.

[sinnbaddie]

I already said it once but I’ll say it again everytime I see it; I think it’s stupid to say that stsg is “so close to being canon” and then think Itafushi is mediocre and doesn’t have any solid romance.

[getos-widow]

A lot of y'all never had a deep bond with someone that didn't include some kind of sexual tension and it really shows.

[gibor-zolel]

See the thing is, I don't like satosugu and I don't like Geto's character but I begrudgingly see it as close to canon as it gets without official confirmation.

This is real pain. Hating a ship but also you can't deny the romantic tension between the two characters.

Gojo and his fucking bigot ex who dumped him in front of a KFC

I'd like to say Gojo could do better but...

[gojuo]

Is satosugu a queerbaiting ship?

Yes and no. No, it's not queerbaiting in canon because Gege is not writing anything romantic in their relationship; Yes, it's queerbaiting coming from the fandom because the majority of stsg shippers are genuinely convinced there's something romantic between them in canon, and fandom is what a fan engages in way more than just canon therefore people get brainwashed/gaslighted into thinking stsg is meant to be canon.

Theories you read? That's fandom. Art you reblog? Fandom. Memes you consume and regurgitate? Fandom. Sending me asks about JJK? You're engaging in fandom. When you only—and I really mean only—read the manga and do not engage in any other aspect of JJK in online spaces, then you are not engaging in fandom therefore you have no stsg shippers forcing their headcanons down your throat and manipulating you into believing that shit. However... not engaging in fandom really isn't the reality for most JJK fans ... and because the majority of the JJK fandom are stsg shippers ... and because the majority of stsg shippers are truly convinced Gege wrote those two with a romantic dynamic ... people start to think there's actual romance happening and therefore he's queerbaiting bc "Gege will never have the balls to make stsg canon so he just sprinkles in random hints bc he's being censored by homophobic Shueisha!!!!" even though JJK has a lgbt couple and openly trans character like ... Lmfao.

The answer is no, there's no queerbaiting going on because there is no romance between stsg happening. Neither Gege nor his editors have never insinuated anything of the sort, nor have the voice actors, or anyone from the animation team. In canon, Gojo and Geto's relationship has only ever been portrayed as platonic. Any stsg cope that their friendship is secretly romantic is manipulative gaslighting. They keep twisting facts to suit their narrative and it's so annoying. "My one and only" is not romantic, the line before that is literally "My best friend"; "My soul knows otherwise" is not romantic, Gege said in the fanbook it's about the way Kenjaku's CT interacts with Gojo's Six Eyes; "Geto is the only deep bond Gojo has with a person" Literally a lie but this is also because of the age-old issue of Shonen writers' misogyny.

The biggest and greatest example of this issue is what Kishimoto did with Naruto/Sasuke/Sakura. To keep it short, Kishimoto, self-described as "I don't know how to write women", put all his effort into developing both Naruto and Sasuke as independent characters, their dynamic with each other, their relevance to the plot, their narrative arcs, etc. etc. and Sakura? She was just ... there. Not saying she was a nothingburger character but the gap between Naruto & Sasuke vs Sakura was considerably evident. And what happened when Kishimoto gave way more depth to the two guys in the trio over the girl? Mass shipping and delusional nrss is canon takes and egg hunts everywhere, even though it was clearcut that nrss was nothing but platonic. It's the same story with Gojo/Geto/Shoko (she literally disappears during HI like fuck you Gege), and the same story with Yuuji/Megumi/Nobara. Hell, I'd even go as far as to say it's the same with the Special Grades: Gojo/Geto/Yuuta/Tsukumo. There's a big disparity between character work for Gojo, Geto & Yuuta vs Tsukumo.

Gege might not make his female characters do fanservice like panty shots, unreasonably big tits, mad sexualization, KYAAHHH!!!, etc. all the time but that don't mean he's above being misogynistic to his female cast .

Gege did a lot of character work for both Gojo and Geto in HI which led up to the iconic Kenjaku reveal moment in Shibuya arc. Great. None of that shit was romantic in any way though. Had he given Shoko the same care and love he's given to the boys, we wouldn't be having this conversation right now. Because that would mean that the fujos would have to engage with her character and her dynamic with other characters in a meaningful way. Alas... that didn't happen because Gege said this is a sausage fest.

Now, all this doesn't mean that you can't ship stsg. It just means that stsg is not a canon ship, Gege is not being censored so he can't "confirm their love", it means that in canon there is no romantic love between those two and there never has been. But you can still ship it, though. Hell, I ship TojiGo! Literally negative romance there in canon obviously, but that won't stop me because exploring character dynamics outside of the confines of canon and the what-ifs is what shipping is all about! (Majority) stsg shippers are just annoying as fuck because they genuinely believe their ship is canon, try to force their headcanons and misinterpretations of the material down everyone's throats, and send death threats to anyone who dares to ship Gojo with literally anyone else. And then gaslight the part of the fandom that isn't into shipping culture so bad that people start to think this fujo ship is queerbaiting. Goddamn.

[desi-pluto]

Lol I finally found my people. I really can't stand the satosugo ship. Their fans are also annoying.

Yes they are 😫

Most of the time I just want to say, especially those who hate gojohime or sugushoko: Just say you hate women 😒

[theblackinnkeeper]

To anyone who thinks jujutsu kaisen is a gay love story

Please get your head out of your ass

(I’m not referring to anybody who ships these and says this jokingly I mean people who 100% believe that it is)

[kcuf-ad]

Thank you for liking my post(name and avatar change if you can’t recognize me) I was expecting people to backlash at me going against a long post that many people seemed to side with apparently rambling about how there is a double standard between het and homo ships in the jjk fandom(there certainly is one all right) any criticisms do you have directed at that post

Yeah, I completely agree with that post as it is a one that is constantly shoved to every fandom I have been apart of.

Hate hetero ships with a passion and constant bullying of other users, but you ship a homo ship? claps

You do the same, but you ship a hetero ship and the other ships is a homo one? You are the worst person alive.

I hate that as well, and it was the reason why I stopped talking about Naruto fandom and the MHA.

My thoughts? I thought you were too nice.

These assholes attack innocent people for just liking a ship that had one character shipped with another that the other teases a lot, but they ALWAYS look over the fact that one of the characters killed the person they shipped with.

Double standards.

I really don't mind people shipping stuff like Nobamaki and Satosugu because I see the reason why people ship them, the fandom is too much for me to handle.

Same with the TGAMM fandom, but on a MUCH SMALLER scale.

[punkeropercyjackson]

"We need more male characters who aren't stereotypes about their gender!!!"You guys can't even handle the idea that a character being an adult man dosen't mean he's horny all the time or up for casual sex just because he's hot

@desi-pluto

[dax-enfinity]

hot take but:

does anyone have a polyship where you ship character A x character B and character A x character C but you don’t ship B and C together

(That’s just me with SaShiSu… i ship satoshoko so hard, sugushoko is ok (pre geto defection and before he turned racist), but i cannot see satoru and geto being together in any shape or form.)

[cieric-of-chaos]

there's nothing worse than seeing people headcanon your favorite character as a "sw*ftie"

[ricanvvas]

can’t wait until jujutsu kaisen fandom finds out geto and gojo are best friends, or even beyond, brother-like 🤩！

let’s not sexualize friendship

they’ll go barbaric after hearing this one

[sinnbaddie]

I’m starting to hate STSG so much solely for the fact that I cannot consume any content of my faves without them always being brought up or inserted into the conversation in some type of way

I just wanna hyperfixate on Hikara and Itafushi yet the most toxic and unhealthy ship is brought up more in their tags than them themselves

[getos-widow]

I will forever be against SatoSugu and there is literally nothing you can say or do to change my mind.