#characters they then romanticise and that's honestly disgusting

[konigsblog]

That mlmxreader blog also keeps claiming that you're sending your followers to go attack them and send death threats. They do a lot of arguing that your dark fic is not real dark fic and that you're purposely trying to trigger and retraumatise them - is what I gathered looking at a couple posts...

I think that for one, there are definitely writers who do romanticise some topics unhealthily with things such as rape/assault/torture, but I don't think you're one of those people? Like you frequently tag and keep stating that what you're writing is fiction, it's fantasy.

On that note, they keep trying to argue that CNC is the more "moral" kink to be writing vs. rape. I honestly think that rape fantasy is something people do fantasize about and can sometimes just not be CNC (bc they keep trying to pin it back to that kink). It's the fact that there's no established relationship and discussion like in most BDSM pairings where they talk about rape play. At the end of the day, you tag your works properly. I don't see much issue with writing what you want when you make sure to tag (which you do!) and are aware the subject you're writing about and its usual connotations (which you're also aware!). People can be mad and uncomfortable, but at the end of the day it's them who chose to keep talking about it. I think people need to get used to being uncomfortable on the internet. This is not a new concept and nobody here is a "hero" for anything.

Sorry I just paraphased some posts and asks with some of my own thoughts on it!

i mean, my content is supposed to be dark, it's dark content for a reason, and i'm not describing these characters to be standard; i'm writing them manipulative, vindictive, depraved, ect. i do appreciate you, anon, as you weren't rude, and instead polite. i appreciate it, my dear! 💗

i don't really care about this whole thing, but something i have never said was to send death threats. now, we don't know if they're lying – they could be – but, if they aren't, stop. i didn't tell anyone to send death threats, because i don't condone that. aside from death threats and mocking someone's trauma, i seriously don't care what you want to do. whether you don't block them, block them, whatever, they've made multiple posts directly insulting me in weird ass ways, so i couldn't really care about their immature opinion.

i'd like to point out something they said though, kinda funny, considering they've mentioned me multiple times outside of their callout post. they said they made ONE post about me with examples, that would be their callout post. but, they're not counting how they're talking about me in response to anons, or how they're mentioning me in their hashtags. it's childish. yes, you 100% have the right to not enjoy a certain kink/coping mechanism (because funnily enough, people use different ways to copes) but it's immature to name people, talk about how what i'm doing is "disgusting" or how i'm a "vile cretin" (like what lmfao 😭)

here's some screenshots of what i'm talking about when i say they've even insulted me, or made comments. this is 4/11 screenshots.

and comparing my supporters to an iof soldier... 😬 wtf is wrong with you? that's disgusting.

now, if anyone sends this to @mlmxreader, go ahead and let them know that they're not the centre of the world, them multiple posts taking about me and insulting me is immature on their end.

[nightcolorz]

truly on board the armand meta train this evening but you mentioned in a post earlier about how the amc iwtv fandom reacted to the depictions of SA with Claudia in s1 and how it was responded to with sensitivity, and then in s2 this does continue- but only for her. The amount of people i have seen on various platforms (mostly show only fans) believing that Armand was lying about his own sexual trauma and repeated assaults for his own gain (again seemingly for some fan’s need to have a clear villian)

It just feels really horrible that a fandom that reacted in such a way to this sort of material in the first season concerning a female character who was underage (if only physically), then goes on to deny, belittle, and even romanticise and sexualise the same sort of trauma that happened to a male character who was also underage (and also mentally as well as physically.) Especially because Claudia’s trauma was only added by the show, which makes it no less valid- but pointing out it was not in the books like Armand’s explicitly was.

I think what im trying to say with that is that Armand’s sexual trauma was already explicitly canon and adapted from that book canon to the show, whereas Claudia’s was a show invention yet is treated a lot more sensitivity and is being believed more (again, i think this is due to show watchers seeing anything Claudia says as objective truth as it is more through the eyes of Daniel- who is of course always completely right and fair (/s) compared to Louis and Armand who of course must always be twisting the truth in some way from their own gain)

Anyway i have gone on a bit but I would love to hear your thoughts on the show’s audience reaction to Claudia’s SA and trauma in comparison to Armand’s

ooo yes I love this question, I’ve thought about it before. the double standard there is honestly pretty upsetting to me. I think part of why the fandom treats Claudia’s sa differently than Armand’s is definitely partly bcus of what u said, how Armand is assumed to be never truthful and Claudia is considered always truthful, which is applied by some ppl to everything they say and do with no nuance. I think a part of it is also a broader fandom issue where male sexual assault isn’t considered as serious/valid/wrong etc as female sexual assault is. so you’ll find people in fandom spaces who believe and discuss how sexual violence against women is a sensitive subject that needs to be treated with care, then go and treat male sexual assault in fiction like it’s sexy, or funny, or not so serious. because of the bias of course that exists with real sexual violence where male victims r often less likely to be treated seriously, believed, etc then female victims. when u think about it, considering the pretty prevalent socially ingrained belief that men can’t be sexually assaulted or that sexual assault against men isn’t as serious as sexual assault against women combined with a chunk of the fandom’s tendency to interpret everything Armand does or says as malicious or deceitful, it makes sense that this would be a prevalent take, but god it’s so disgusting, I hate it.

Armand’s history of childhood sexual abuse is extremely important to his character, as u said it was in the books, and the reason it was adapted so faithfully is because u *can not* remove it or change it without completely rewriting Armand and changing a lot of his fundamental characteristics. So frankly, it’s so fucking stupid to see people saying he’s lying, as if that would not be a character assignation so drastic it would be absurdly stupid for any writer to come up with. It would be like, idk, saying Claudia lied about being turned into a vampire when she was a child and that she actually was over 18, or some shit like that. Like genuinely be so for real 😭. And I mentioned it in another ask but I can’t say it enough, it’s repulsive to insist that a fictional sexual abuse victim who’s history of sexual violence is actively incredibly impactful to everything he does is “lying for sympathy”. Like y’all need to realize that u r making disgusting implications about real victims of assault and u sound like actual freaks. Also u sound dumb lol, like USE UR BRAIN, how would Armand be lying or using his trauma to manipulate when he is clearly actively acting due to his trauma 😭

So many people who were talking about how sexual violence against women is super sensitive and the show needs to treat it with more care, making sure to add tws on their posts and to make respectful disclaimers and such, are now taking another character who was sexually assaulted and saying he is lying or manipulating or their making jokes about it because they see him as some villain only worthy of ridicule and nothing else. It’s gross!!

I think another part of it is probably how a lot of people only see victimhood as real or valid if they perceive the victim as none-complexly “good.” Since Claudia is perceived by the fandom as always in the right she is a real victim who deserves respect, and since Armand is the villain who’s in the wrong he is faking it or smth. In reality people who have experienced trauma, especially childhood sexual abuse as intense and horrible as what Armand went through, are very flawed!! And having flaws or being a bad person, especially when said flaws r very tied to the trauma itself, does not make someone in any way less of a victim!!

Armand was taught to believe that he is an actual object, he grew up in a dog eat dog world where there r men with power who use weaker people to stay in control and there are slaves who the men use for whatever they please, and he internalized that this is how he will always has to live bcus this is how the world works. Assad zaman literally said Armand doesn’t know what love is bcus he’s never experienced it 😭. Armand models every relationship he has after his relationship with Marius, who literally raped and abused him as a child, because he was the first person who ever loved him 😭 and armand is always chasing love because he has never truly felt it and doesn’t know why he feels so empty. Marius taught Armand that love is using someone for their body and hitting them when they disobey u. Of course he’s fucked up! Of course he sees his relationship with Louis as a transactional power grab where he’s either the master or the slave before he sees it as loyalty and trust and companionship, of course he betrays him ‼️. And like 😭 everything wrong with Armand and all of the fucked up shit he does can be tied to his trauma . Come oooonnn 😭🙏 he is not lying 💀 he’s not trying to manipulate Louis or “gain sympathy”, Jesus Christ.

the petty, book purist part of me is so annoyed that a somewhat irresponsible rape plot line that was added without as much care as it should have been, especially considering it wasn’t necessary to the character or the story and wasn’t in the books, is being treated with more validity and sympathy and respect then a male characters childhood sexual trauma that has shaped every aspect of how he functions and behaves. And that’s petty 😭 but like, I can’t say I’m wrong for being off put. This is genuinely mf gross.

thank uuuu for the ask u r literally the best ahhhh!!! I hope this was interesting, I’m a lil brain fried rn lol

[enemywasp]

OMFG A PROSHIPPER !!+! SAME BUT I HAVE TO HIDE MY IDENTITY BC EVERYONE HAS DNI PROSHIP IN BIO LIKE WHY?????

UMMMMM ..... Rant bc it's so rare to find a kindred spirit in this shitty immature ""war""

it fr just means i believe we should ship and let ship??? why is the "i don't judge u for your preferences" thing seen as bad idfk like. it's fucking fiction.

if it's problematic then I don't condone it irl. but I'm human. I have curiosities and shit. Like,, ppl don't listen to true crime bc they condone murder and ppl don't go calling true crime fans murderers. so WHYYYY is shipping any different, in fact it's b e t t e r bc at least fiction. isn't. real.

like why tf is what i ship anyone else's business??? unless it's bc we have smthn in common to bond over, why tf do ppl care abt the ships we don't have in common.

istg ship wars are crazy af and this whole pro- anti- ship shit is just another way to try to control smthn that doesn't need controlling.

it's like U said no one fucking cares abt it irl and the damn DEATH THREATS ppl get over **not giving a damn what other people ship** instead of being the fucking fandom shipper police or smthn is disgusting and i hate that im never allowed to talk abt this w/out ppl hating me and calling me a disgusting monster.

why can't I just do what I fucking want when in my own privacy while not causing any harm???

like ppl are so damn delusionalllllllll!!!!.!.!.!

-> some proshippers just mean they support any and all ships bc fiction is fiction

-> some proshippers ship "problematic" ships and that is FINE because it is NOT REAL and THEY ARE NOT HURTING ANYONE and i meannnnm ppl are curious right. they gonna explore alien concepts some way or another. why tf would ppl stop them from exploring it in a safe. healthy. fictional. harmless. way.

why is it that it's okay to consume problematic content but not okay to ship problematic ships?? literally what is the fucking difference ships are a subgenre of content.

if you think it's okay to be a fan of lotr or american psycho or some shit then it is damn hypocritical to say it isn't okay to ship something problematic. same thing if you think it's okay to stan/simp for a villain character.

it's only even called ~problematic~ bc that's how the relationship would be if it were real. which it isn't. so it isn't fucking problematic bc it's fictional content and the ppl shipping it do not condone the irl versions.

also sidenote,,, why tf are proshippers and multishippers grouped together in the dni stuff?? they are not related. a multishipper just. ships the same character w/ more than just one (1) other character. how is that problematic too?????

okay sorreryyyyyy i just have so many thoughts on this that im never allowed to share pls feel free to let this one collect dust in the inbox. or just straight up delete it lol.

Do not apologise! I love a good rant!

If you want to interact with proshippers more the tags "proshipper", "proshippers pls interact" and "proship positivity" are usually very nice and lots of wonderful people post there!

And you could always make a side account for proship stuff if you want to be able to take a break from the intense pro vs anti stuff if and when it gets too much, whilst still having a place to enjoy that stuff.

Honestly I think a lot of the issue is people seem to take the word "ship" as their ideal relationship. Less so than a dynamic they enjoy in fiction. But I don't know, I can't pretend to understand the mind of antis.

Proshippers and multishippers getting clumped together is probably linked to the idea that a ship is a pairing you want to see canon and shows actually pandering to ship wars lately. Or maybe people are just weird!

Everyone takes shipping way too seriously now and acts like a fictional pairings existence will romanticise the topic and brainwash kids. My general rule is that its for fun, who cares ?

And feel free to rant in my inbox whenever! It's always open to anyone. Glad you could get that off your chest :)

[shalpilot]

HONESTLY!! A good romance is nice and all but I genuinely prefer a familial bond between characters like you're telling me you saw two characters decide that they are so close they're family and didn't find it valuable enough? Not to mention how creepy it is and how it's completely discrediting the character and their morals like no that's not writing dark content and having it explored that's romanticisation

thank youuuuu

it is so creepy n such a disservice to Cora's character. why would you want a man who traveled alone with a child 4 several months to end up being attracted to him like i should not have to tell you why that's really fuckin gross. the worst part is like ! the majority of the stuff i see isn't even presented as "dark" content which gets me even more heated bc then it feels like they don't even see anything wrong with it (which. they don't. clearly.) I do ship things that require me to tweak character's personalities a bit to make certain things work -because at the end of the day I know a lot of the people who make up my ships are assholes, but I would never want to write or draw stuff where they're like, genuinely toxic and present that as a cute fluffy thing- but I just, like.... why do they want to turn a character who's such a good person into a creep. that's weird of them. that's weird that they do it. and also yeah that last part is what pisses me off soooooo fucking much abt people obsessed with "dark content" like yeah dude morbid curiosity exists. media like Lolita, where the narrator is presenting the subject matter as nothing wrong, but it is still clear to the reader that said narrator is vile and disgusting and absolutely in the wrong, exists. There's genuinely nothing wrong with wanting to explore dark topics as long as you're not fucking romanticizing and glorifying it and I don't even think that they realize that's what they're doing. I really want to think that. there's a difference between like 'hey, these characters are in a toxic relationship and I want to explore that space because the dynamic/psychology interests me" and "hey, i wanted to draw this because it's taboo and that's hot" and a lot of people who fall into the second category claim that they're really in the first and cry censorship and prudes when people call them out for it.

anyways. i could absolutely go on but i don't really like talking about this all that much!? like yeah obviously i'll go off about it but it just kinda leaves me feeling icky. PEACE

[smol-grey-tea]

for the ask game: tei? im curious about your thoughts on tei!!

Woah! :0 you funny, I already did Tei :) maybe I'll just go into a bit more detail and elaborate on the bullet points from last time!!! 😊

Chance for me to infodump about my thoughts on Tei :3 😊

Tei's so interesting. He pisses me off, he's the most boring one, but it's tbh mostly cuz he's the most popular within the fandom, that's why I don't as much like him. I think ppl only focus on the fact that he's a possessive yandere obsessed with purity and believes that no one should hurt his owner, but if anyone is going to, it should be him

Boring

Boring, boring boring

Get real. Get actually interesting. Oh. My. God.

Ppl rly think that's the most interesting aspect of his character?? It's certainly not the most relatable, at least not to me

Tei is a character wracked with anxiety and worry for his owner, who he places on a pedestal higher than the sun for smiling at him in place of treating him like the scum of the earth that he believes himself to be. He's not concerned about the owner abandoning him like Yeonho is, just about the owner's safety. He'll stop at nothing to keep that safety, and that's no exaggeration

In this way, he acts selflessly, say for all but his selfish desire to hurt the owner. He feels immense shame and disgust around it and blames it on his being dirty, but I think it's not so much a result of his being grotesque and disgusting, but simply lonely.

It must be incredibly isolating to shoulder so much pain and fear and worry all on his own, all while dealing with the painful memories of his previous owner. The best way I can interpret his desire to hurt Eri is by saying that deep down, he wants someone to lean on or relate to in his pain, and feel comfort thru their shared trauma.

He wants to dirty his owner, to make her like him, so that they may both finally be on the same level of purity and he can stand with her, and she can understand him. He cares for her deeply and sees her as safe but would feel guilty for burdening her with his issues if she was pure, but that wouldn't matter if she were just like him

He views this desire as selfish but I believe that this desire is manifesting from the simple desire for human connection, someone to be completely himself and honest around, which is something not nearly as selfish as he would believe ❤❤❤

Obviously, this doesn't excuse it. To change, he needs to learn to seek help, to reach out honestly about the pain he's going thru, taking one step at a time

Whether you romanticise his toxic behaviour or demonise it, I think it can still be agreed that simply removing him from the picture isn't a good solution to the danger that he is. Evidently, aside from Eri, Tei is the glue that holds the whole family together. He cooks, cleans, does the laundry and all the pecking he needs to, not just for Eri, but for the whole household

He gently urges Lance not to fight with Red; calms Yeonho's anxiety and teaches him cooking; nags Yuri but still feeds him and helps him just the same; and keeps Red happy and entertained with the justice warrior role playing

His relationships with each of the other boys are equally as complex as his with Eri, the way Red can feel comfortable enough with Tei to talk to him in a serious manner, and the way that Yuri warns Eri of Tei's dangers. Fascinating stuff behind the scenes that we don't even see!!!!!

I'm not sure how Cheritz would've been able to do this, since Nameless is told thru Eri's perspective, but based on the above, here's how I think that Tei's story could've been written a bit more realistically for him:

He cares for Eri deeply and his desire to hurt her doesn't just spring from nowhere, but comes more from the desire for human connection, someone to rely on or relate to, someone he can be his authentic honest self around. After hearing Tei's explanation, Eri agrees to help him thru his recovery, which is sweet of her, but I know that any relationship with someone you put on a pedestal can be extremely tough. It's incredibly easy to relapse and fall back when your entire day rests on whatever mood that one person is in

I've spoken about this before. In my opinion, Tei needs someone he can rely on, who is older than him, who he cannot hurt as easily, who he doesn't idolise, who he has much more stable of a relationship with

He needs Yuri. And Yuri needs him

It's the same for Yuri. Just like in his own route. He struggles with understanding emotions, especially sincerity that isn't tied to just empty flirting

The best way that Yuri can learn about authentic, sincere emotion is by trying to build a relationship with someone who he knows definitely isn't just interacting with him because of his good looks. Sure, Eri probably isn't, but being his owner (and a girl) that can kinda throw a wrench into things

Oh I haven't even mentioned that Tei's ocd is the biggest thing I can relate to him with. Hmm. It's 01:04. If I think of anything else to add, I'll make an addiction tomorrow. Idk how to conclude this essay, so I'll just say thanks again for sending the ask, n please keep em comin!!!!! I can do this for over 672 hours!!!!! ^^

[hahahax30]

The author of the Bridgerton books really can't write men without a huge array of red flags, can she?

[tobeornottotc]

Can you explain to me why lots of people are so interested in the VegasPete arc? Like I have read the novels and am just not as invested in this pairing. Even if they fall in love, the way their whole relationship starts is just disturbing and I find nothing about that intriguing. I think Vegas is still and evil creep.

Hi!

I mean fair enough to you I understand where you're coming from because I also don't really enjoy the novel or feel invested in the couples in the novel until I take some time to actually understand the subtext behind their characters. I think the thing with KinnPorsche is that all of the characters are morally grey not evil, or monsters, the main characters are all flawed somehow, especially with the ones formed in the Mafia environment. I do not enjoy Vegas love story with Pete at the beginning and honestly I haven't gotten to the part where I still understand how they become what they are but I understand Vegas, I see what makes Vegas become what he becomes, I find his actions horrifying and uncomfortable but I get why he is the way he is and I feel for him. It doesn't mean I think he should be easily forgiven or romanticised but I understand what makes him him and because I do I now see hope for me to actually find more stuff with him and Pete arc. I actually noticed and liked Vegas more with Porsche in the novel, I know disgusting... but I did I don't shy away from it, I enjoyed watching his arc and seeing him at the end where he has to deal with the consequences and realisation of who he is and then embrace the monster he is. Unfortunately it meant that Pete had to see that too, and go through a lot to get to understanding that and breaking his mask and shield and entering his heart. I understand the darkness appealing to people, it's not every day in a BL we get such a mature, conflicting yet deep storyline with characters that are not simple to like or understand. There's layers between what makes the characters do what they do, and why they seek love (though I struggle to see how Vegas is that for Pete), so I get why people are pulled to the messy chaos of this couple, the messed up hurt and passion that consumes and erodes them, and makes them who they are at the end of the story. Plus at the end of the novel Vegas and Pete have grown and both are dealing with their origins and it's not simple or easily forgiven either. I like the way Vegas' character arc is written, (apart from his start with Pete) I like who he becomes at the end and how he gets there. I like watching his truth get exposed and seeing what lies behind the monster, what forced him to become that and how he stops needing to be that. I like watching him defeated, and defenceless and very slowly healing. Because I've come to see him not as evil but as human, and he's messed up extremely so, but he's broken and formed from darkness and pain, I don't expect any less. You can find him evil and a creep there's nothing wrong with that, I think a lot of people will do, but I don't really think he had a choice in the matter of what he became and so I now understand that, again fair to you not to think that, and hate him for his actions, not going to sugar coat how toxic he is, but also I can see why when all he's had is toxicity. He's a victim as much as he's also an aggressor and villain, he's selfless as much as he's also cruel and disgusting. But there's a beauty in his brokenness and in the way Pete later somehow sees that.

I think anon, people are attracted to darkness on media because it gives depth and places for character to develop from, it's interesting and unique to watch someone like that and understand what makes them do what they do, it's morally conflicting to choose how to view them, and see how their environment differs from the norm in society. It's exciting to watch them change and learn and become better but also relieving to see them punished but also free of their chains at the end. That's how I am with Vegas characterisation. And that's how others are who understand why Pete falls for him and forgives him and sees the good in him later. Pete saves him, and I get why Pete matters to him I don't get why Vegas matters to Pete yet so I can't say I ship them in the novel.

Also the actors for the two are incredible, their chemistry is real and they formed a bond and a lot of trust to be able to understand and play these characters, Bible understands who Vegas is, he sees his scars and pain, but he also sees monstrosity and he also gets his love for Pete so he's going to bring Vegas to life in a way the novel Vegas wasn't fully done right, and same for Build, a lot of processing to create them has been put in, and a lot of effort to write them and humanise them. If you don't want to see a chance of them being humanised or understood that's also fine. If you're not comfortable with them, you don't have to watch or like them. But I find something intriguing and challenging seeing their story and I like challenges. So that's why I'm intrigued and ready to give them a go.

Thanks anon. I think the show will be very careful in how they humanise and show these two's origins, for now I choose to trust Pepsi with directing their story, and we will see if it changes.

[traumatisedbabygay]

for some reason youtube just recommended me a shit ton of video essays on the novel “Lolita”, and how its message has been warped through adaptation so much its doing what the og book warned against. I’d read the book years ago, but oh boy did this open up a whole lotta feelings for me...

so, being the bookworm little shit that i am, allow me to rant a while.

Lolita is a book by Vladimir Nakobov, whose protagonist is an unreliable narrator, about how he becomes infatuated with, and grooms a twelve year old girl called dolores (that he calls, Lolita). The book makes an effort to show that dolores is a kid, having her pick her nose, throw tantrums, adjusts wedgies, ect. In the book, you read as Humbert Humbert, the unreliable narrator, twists these childlike situations into something creepy and sensual, to justify his own pedophilia. 

Now, you’d think that in a book with an, I’ll repeat, UNRELIABLE narrator, any directors wanting to adapt it into film would take every written sentence with a heap of salt. Humbert Humbert is a narcissist. A predator. A disgusting old man with a obsession for his step daughter (whom he intentionally made his step daughter, so that he could groom her.)

But NO. Kubrik (the director of Lolita’s first film adaptation), made the 14 YEAR OLD actress become a “seductress”. He validates Humbert’s infatuation by placing responsibility on this CHILD, because she’s the one draped on a sun lounger in a “sexy” bikini, she’s the one placing long, exaggerated kisses to Humbert’s cheek, she’s the initiator. 

It’s turning a story about how pedophilia and grooming is disgusting, and turns it into a love story. The actress is A MINOR. The character herself is A MINOR. And whilst, granted, Kubrik aged her up to 14 so it’d be allowed a theatre film release, it doesn’t fucking matter. She’s still a child. 

By unnecessarily sexualising dolores in the film, not only did kubrik literally appeal to pedophile like Humbert Humbert, but he validated their disgusting fetish. Instead of showing us Humbert infer things this CHILD does as sexy, show us the CHILD being normal, and Humbert still being aroused by it. Show us how vile and twisted his view of her is. Show us that everything dolores “initiates” is in his head. 

Don’t show him inferring thing right!

Another adaptation was made in the 90s, which wasn’t as awful, but was still pretty fucking awful in terms of betraying the og message of the book. The actress playing dolores was still a minor, and whilst she didn’t act as exaggeratedly seductive, and did act more “child-like”, she had her moments. And those moments were pretty much as bad as the Kubrik film. In the 90s film, though, they make Humbert too sympathetic, and personally it’s done in a way that is.....iffy, to say the least.

So now, we have a novel with several stage adaptations, operas and two feature length films made from it....and most of these adaptations literally become the thing the og book sought to destroy.

Pedophiles.

It doesn’t help that (because of some choice Lana Del Ray lyrics), tumblr had a phase in like 2014 where lolita was romanticised to a point where young girls saw the story as a “romance” rather than a psychological drama. They sought out a “love story” akin to that of Humbert and Dolores’s, and envied being in that situation. The media didn’t help. More copies of the book were produced, with new covers, many of which betrayed Nakabov’s demands. He asked for no young girls to ever be on his book cover, for...obvious reasons given the books message and Nakobov’s personal stances. 

Did cover designers listen after he died? Of course they fucking didn’t. 

People got Lolita copies with teenage girls’ legs on the cover, girls suggestively sucking lollipops, girls in compromising positions....which is disgusting, misleading, and a fucking betrayal of the author. 

Nakobov one taught at a university, and when several girls dressed up as Lolita for halloween, he was horrified.

Do I blame Kubrik for most, if not all of this? Yeah, pretty much. He made the decision to romanticise the story in his adaption...the rest just followed suit because it sold and fit their model for society. It catered to the heterosexual male gaze, especially the gaze of pedophilic men, and in a patriarchal society that benefits a lot off of sexualising women (particularly YOUNG women), thats the perfect combination.

So, why, at 4:38 in the morning am I writing a fucking essay on tumblr about a book i read ages ago and almost forgot existed? 

idfk

I guess i was just super pissed at how warped the message of the book got through time. It was like a massive, 60+ year long game of (for lack of a better term) Chinese Whispers. And at the end of the game, in the 2010s, we were so far away from the original point of the novel that we may as well have been talking about a different book. 

Nakobov is probably thrashing and rolling and turning in his grave, because a cautionary tale about child grooming somehow became a “love story” idolised by a large sum of teens/young adults on the internet.

It is a betrayal of the author, a disgrace to the novel, and as a writer it’s really pissed me off. 

it’s now 4:48 exactly in the morning, and this rant has gone on for WAYYY too long already. I doubt anyone even ended up reading this whole thing, but hey, that’s what tumblr is for, right? Anonymously ranting about random subjects at ungodly hours, instead of taking ur sleep medication and lying down like a responsible person. 

That’s why this site is a breeding ground for chaos.

And honestly I’d have it no other way.

So...yeah. Nakobov deserved better.

[wraith17]

Self insert and reader y/n is the same thing. And i'm actually pleasantly surprised to hear that someone else sees the romanticization of a lot of icky non consentual/stockholm syndromeish actions in those stories.

Oh I see, thank you for that non. I’ve just seen those posts on the Lady D tag and you know, have to scroll past, had a look and good lord. Some of them are fucking scary.

I have no issue in a comfort character but I 100% have an issue with the romanticisation of abuse. Some of the posts read like Alcina exists as some sort of blow up doll to be used to fulfil something in the reader regardless of what it does to her. It’s not a healthy/loving relationship, there’s a lot of gaslighting and manipulation and for what? If you are honestly reading something and think “yeah, that looks good, I’d do that.” Please for the love of god - go to therapy. There is something deeply wrong if you think abuse is sexy.

For example twilight - if anyone treats you the way Jacob and Edward treat Bella - run. Being controlling isn’t protective, doing whatever you want even when they say no is assault, manipulating someone into doing what you want despite reservations is disgusting. Do NOT hold these behaviours up as anything other than what they are toxic and abusive.

[floralkittygambler]

Based on the new signed work for hazbin

looks like shitty h/skerd/st may end up canon, even though once again husk looks uncomfortable and pissed off by angel, but you cant literally criticise angel without the whole fucking fandom and even staff get pissy with you. accept that not everyones gonna love him, and folks like me whove been victims to these sorts *really* dont fucking like him (to be clear, his predatory nature of not accepting husk saying no but magically accepting other's no, incl alastors. also he tried to force a kiss from husk, similar to how his boss does to him so theres no fucking excuses. its disgusting and male victims of sex crimes are fucking valid, so stop excusing angels actions. he didnt deserve to be a victim but hes not doing favours by making a victim out of husk. its clear harassment. not cute or tsundere either, vile fujoshis-). but most relate or love angel so validate this shit, much like viv and her staff and vas. revolting. he also gives sw a bad name when hes fucking harassing folks bc sw isnt like that - you dont just harass someone. nor is sex your entire identity.

ugh fed up man. im starting to enjoy this fandom so little yet the few characters i am attached to keep me around. hell ive said before ive been around husk like people and they often really dislike angel types, whereas angel types adore them rather shallowly tbh. yeah but honestly this fandom and the clowns running it will find an excuse for angel and avoid those actually affected as always. big surprise...

husk physically resembles angels brother, dad and client, and is similar to the first two. its this toxic bond of angel wanting that love he never got from them. basic science. plus both addicts and one being older than his fuckin dad means realistically it wouldnt work. love does not cure everything nor should be pushed to. ones uncomfortably forced into it, and his bonding moments makes husk ooc because hes portrayed totally different to how he would be. again, experience. overall we get enough of this toxic, forced shit in media. just stop.

angel needs to sort his own shit before being with a guy. and then he needs to be with a guy on his level, around his age and mentality whos in a healthy spot. someone similar to him. hell a male cherri bomb would suit. as for husk, he needs a lot more work thatll take far longer. he needs to love himself and work through his own shit and be like that for awhile first. seen it first hand kill so

before anyone goes 'its fiction' yeah? well then explain how shit like many toxic ideals in romcoms or hell, how male victims of sex crimes are treated as a fucking joke still when its not funny, or hey how about that the only chemistry is this bitter distaste and onesidedness thats shallow af. or how shit like 'killing stalking' and whatnot are seen as cute romances by fans very similar to the point its this sorta dumb shit people romanticise, fantasize and normalise - young people. hell adults too esp immature ones.

its not healthy.

its really not.

and being on the receiving end makes you sick to your stomach and paranoid on others intentions for you.

every glance or touch is an attack. every remark, a hidden message. thats what we're left with.

as for the blokes, they get the extra of being a 'joke' and not a 'real man', that they should 'enjoy' it.

fuck off

also to grow you need to accept not everyone will like or love you. angel irl and in fiction seems mostly adored whether its shallow or not. making a character that dislikes him be his lover is a shit cop out and bad writing just like helluva. we get it, he hates rejection. dont we all. but no one grows without it. hell angel wold benefit from a guy telling him no and sticking to that for him to just accept.

because media shows that fandoms and celebs are now littered full of spoilt folks getting their own ways, seeing any critique or disinterest as 'hate' and being the most entitled buncha twats going. not everyones going to love you or care and that doesnt mean theyre a hater. if viv actually wants a likeable character with flaws to grow, she'd actually show angel's bad as not just him being a fucking victim as its just a mix of victim blaming and entitlement to get what he wants for being a victim when life aint fair. show him with traits more widely despicable thatll shock fans. actually show him accepting people not liking him and being ok rather than forcing himself on them until they do. fucking disgusting. though everyone thinks thats cute. bloody weird-

just like his creator, he wont grow and improve. theyve hired a fucking r'pe fetisher for gods sake. the whole viv and hired folks are a mess...

[plus-size-reader]

Hello, before I start this I want to say that I've been a fan of you for a long time and I think you're doing a brilliant thing for writing for us plus size people I'm just really conflicted because you have written for some characters that honestly I don't think anyone should write for. Now I'm all for "If you don't like it don't read it." I do that all the time. *trigger warning* However, I can't get past the fact that you have written for Richard Ramirez and Mason Verger, both men being paedophile, rapist, murderers. You've only written for Ramirez once (and in the context that it's the AHS characterisation) but Richard Ramirez still is a real life serial killer, serial rapist, pedo who killed 15 people. Romanticising the man in any way is wrong (and I think the romanticisation of serial killers is a problem with AHS and horror media in general, not just in fanfiction.) You have also written two fanfics about Mason Verger, a man who canonically a pedo rapist who abuses his own sister and collects the tears of crying children for sexual gratification. It may not be that obvious in the TV show that he is a paedophile but it's very clear he's a rapist, just look at what he's done to Margot. In every iteration including the books Mason is paedophile/rapist, so I don't fully understand how you could think it's ok to write multiple fanfics about him. Now there can be an argument about writing for all the other characters in Hannibal for a lot of them are murderers but regardless on your stance on whether it's ok to write Hannibal x reader or Will x readers you should see that romanticising a pedo such as Mason isn't a good thing at all, even is he's a made up character. This is no way attacking you as a person or that fact that you do a brilliant job at writing x plus size! reader fanfics. I'm just hoping that it was just a lapse of judgement from you that you have written for these characters.

Hello darling,

I would like to being by thanking you for approaching this issue in such a mature manner. All of those imagines are decently old, and while that isn’t an excuse, I did write them based on requests with very little thought.

I agree that romancizing those sorts of characters is not good, and cannot be allowed to stand. For those characters specifically, I will seriously consider removing them from this blog.

However, I do raise the question that plenty of characters exist that are just as morally deplorable and disgusting that are written for all over several platforms. What is the different between them and someone like Tate Langdon or any of the Game of Thrones characters?

I agree with you completely, but it does get a little difficult to keep track of what is or isn’t okay in fiction. In my case specifically, I write for a lot of historical dramas like Vikings, who’s characters do more than a few unsavory things and even Marvel, which is notably made up of a few murders and assassins.

[mechatimagines]

Brief TW! For small mention of kidnapping, drugging and non consensual sex in the ask no real detail or anything but just for anyone who doesn’t want to read further after that including you of course. Delete this straight after reading the warning if any of those things make you uncomfortable its never my intention to do that to people 😊🥰

What do your junk about love links new character he drugs and kidnaps you but apparently ‘‘cares about you and just has to do this you understand right? 🥺’’ I wouldn’t be surprised if they made him r*pe her next. It’s literally so disgusting but I seem to actually be the only person who sees the problem in it. They do have a disclaimer but it’s the fact that it’s still an awful trope to have considering they’re literally romanticising r*pe and kidnapping/drugging when that happens to thousands of women all the time and a lot of men. It’s probably literally happening to a women somewhere in the world rn as I’m typing this out. That’s how often we have to fear for ourselves and its a joke or a cute love story to them?

⚠️TW ahead!!⚠️

Honestly I wouldn't have posted this but after reading this a few times..... I'm going to address this because it does need to be said.

I completely agree with you on this.

I recently in the past month matched with him and did his story. I also did some research on him on both the wiki and the Reddit page. What I found was extremely weird & uncomfortable at ahead.

Where I do understand the plot of the story, I feel like it kinda went too far, even with what little we have for the first part of his story that is out. Besides the actual character and story itself, the amount of support I have seen from the fandom for his character, based on just how attractive he is and not the disturbing story, it’s really gross to me.

The heavy undertones are extremely disturbing too me, even as someone who use to enjoy the old “mafia” styled storys/fics. The drugging and kidnapping went way to far for me personally. And like I said the undertone of the whole thing is just so uncomfortable.

They do give a warning for his date, but even then I don’t like it. I thought of LoveLink being a more safe and funny app, even with some of the more questionable characters it has. To be honest, where I would try and convince someone to try the app I now really don’t. Not after I have to explain that one of the matches will drug you and kidnap you. It’s just uncomfortable.

And with the whole rape thing…. Yeah I could see where the story could turn in that direction, and it creeps me out.

All in all, my respect for LoveLink has gone down a little after this character came out. I feel like this story was just way out of the area of content that most of the Lovelink fans want.

[disillusionedmonster]

So, I have been thinking a lot lately about the Percy Jackson series and Rick Riordan, and don't get me wrong I really like the books they are one of my all-time favourite series, but I have noticed that he tends to pick the most sexist version of myths when regarding female "monsters" (this is also seen with some of the goddesses as well).

Let’s talk about Medusa for a moment. In the books both her and her sisters are evil monsters who try and trap/hunt Percy. Now for Medusa, Percy ends up cutting her head off and sending it to Zeus to make a statement. So, he is essentially using the head of a woman to make a statement, which...cool. Medusa is different to the trophies gained from something like the minotaur because she is sentient and a cursed mortal (at least that is the myth I will be focusing on rather than exploring the goddess one).

Okay now onto the original story. Obviously, there are going to be some conflicting accounts, but I don't want too dive to deep. In the original myth Medusa is a beautiful maiden and she captures the eye of Poseidon. Poseidon decides he must have her and rapes her in the temple of Athena. Now, Athena turns Medusa into a hideous monster with snakes for hair and the ability to turn men to stone if they look into her eyes. This antagonistic portrayal of Athena originates from Ovid and is not present in other works such as Hesiod, Homer and Pinda. (Ovid pulls a classic patriarchal tactic by setting women against one another to remove the blame from the men, in this case Poseidon).

So instead let us think of it this way: Athena is limited in her position as a goddess in a Parthenon controlled and dominated by violent men. She is the goddess of wisdom, so she comes up with a way to make sure Medusa can protect herself from men while also making it seem like she is punishing her. Now we move onto the next half of the story, men trying to kill her. What we have here is a classic trope in Greek and Roman mythology. A woman subverts her expected role and operates outside of social norms and as such she must be put back in her place. In myths this can end in one of three ways: forced marriage, rape, and death. Medusa ends with the latter.

Medusa means "protector" and there are many examples of her being used on shields, pendants, and vases as a symbol of protection. There is even evidence of her face being used on women's sanctuaries. If we ignore the sexist written stories for a moment and have a look at the physical evidence what we see is that medusa was a symbol of protection and was more than likely a protector of women.

Now back to Percy Jackson. Riordan took a myth of an ancient woman who was raped, turned into a monster, and then killed by a man and reduces her to a $2 monster of the chapter. He took the most misogynistic version of the story and ran with it.

Let’s talk Circe next. She turned men into animals on her island and created a separatist paradise where women were free of male violence. In the book Percy is turned into a guinea pig and Circe is depicted as an evil, man hating villainess. Circe had a good reason to turn men into animals. Much like Medusa, Circe operated outside the patriarchal expectations of a woman and as such she needs to be punished for her "indiscretions". These men are trying to rape her and despite that she shows them mercy. She does not kill them merely turns them into animals. They got off quiet light in terms of mythology really. So once again, we have a powerful woman from mythology being reduced to the most misogynistic aspects of her myth and demonised in the books. When they release the Blackbeard pirates on the poor women and girls living on the island, I always feel slightly ill. Those poor girls would have been raped and killed by them. There is no way Reyna was on their ship and not sexually used by the men.

Riordan does not shy away from darker subject matter in many of his works, but he shies away from this. Maybe I am being too harsh, it is a kid’s series after all. However, it has popularised Greek and Roman mythology again and kids will romanticise it. I sure as hell know I did. He tries to create morally grey gods, but I feel the most hated god character ends up being Hera, when honestly everything she does is the result of Zeus' ineptitude and stupidity.

He does this with other female figures in his novels as well: Hera, Persephone, Demeter, and Calypso to name a few.

I will still love and enjoy the books. I just feel like it is a little disappointing that he shies away from this topic and glosses over the misogynistic nature of Greek and Roman mythology. I do not believe the gods would have lost that disgusting trait when they moved their Parthenon to America considering that misogyny is still running rampart in not only America, but the world.

[lady-plantagenet]

What are your thoughts on Jaime x Cersei, Jaime x Brienne, Tyrion x Tysha, George x Isabel, and Henry VIII x Anne Boleyn? (Sorry for the long list!)

Glad to see someone else feeling charitable and letting me vent my unsolicited opinions 😂. Saved the George x Isabel for the last cause I’m sure it will be the longest lmao!

Asked Via: Send me a ship and I'll give you my (brutally) honest opinion on it: https://lady-plantagenet.tumblr.com/post/627331607624302592/send-me-a-ship-and-ill-give-you-my-brutally

Jaime x Cersei: Despite it’s fundamental flaws, it is... titillating to read. The idea of people falling in love with their own other-gender counterpart is twisted yet so intriguing. I must confess that I am not as disgusted by incest as most people, so bear that in mind. The thing is, Cersei is definitely a narcissist with a lot of internalised misogyny and this ship just feels so justified to her character.

The issue is, and as the books go on, it becomes quickly clear that Jaime’s love is not as deep and as his appearance changes, and they no longer look identical Cersei’s own mental image, Cersei’s love also wanes and then you’re hit with how shallow it was. So I ship these two... but I also don’t because they’re toxic? Honestly, book-wise I am intrigued to see what will happen, if they end up together... or they don’t... either way I’m sure it will be quite a ride. You see, I’m not emotionally invested.

Jaime x Brienne: Oh the Sapphires... Obviously anyone who cares for Jaime’s wellbeing would want him to end up with Brienne as opposed to Cersei. I read this interesting theory recently on how these two don’t actually love each other but confuse their strong platonic feelings of affection for romance. You see, that’s also an interesting take as both characters are quite bereft off opposite gender friendships.

However, I strongly ship them romantically as well, Book!Brienne (hey show as well!) is truly admirable because based on her choice in men e.g. Renly, you can see how she had still not given up on her maidenly fantasies and I just love her for that, because true love isn’t something to which only pretty women are entitled. She in many ways represents salvation for him as she being a true knight in spite of her gender, can veer him back into the path of chivalry. He is most chivalrous around her, I mean, not only because her good conduct influences but also because he performs some of the most knightly deeds by cause of her e.g. rescuing her from the bear pit. I like this ship, it’s a good trope subversion.

Tyrion x Tysha: I find this one of the more heartbreaking ships of ASOIAF, because to me it represents Tyrion’s loss of innocence.

She is a haunting figure because of how small remnants of her memory were enough to pull Tyrion into the toxic relationship he had with Shae e.g. she too hard dark hair and there was music around when he met her. Its one of those weird (as @omgellendean put it in her brutally honest ask tag answer - a character who consists of only a name), but unlike Ashara Dayne, she is not idealised and given this over-the-top tragic story. So this elusive Tysha is an entity by what she symbolises: foregone youth and a sweetness that has no place in the ASOIAF universe.

Henry VIII x Anne Boleyn: As I said in my last ask. I cannot tolerate the romanticisation of infidelity, and that is especially when the male’s spouse is a wonderful woman fit for him and has done nothing wrong. I don’t have strong feelings against Anne Boleyn herself, as I prefer to see her as ‘Anne the Educated and Sophisticated Reformer’ as opposed to ‘Anne the Seductress’. Ugh let me just say... rule of thumb for whether it’s a good pair: Do thousands have to die for your selfish desire to be together? Yes? Then probably not meant to be. Just a thought.

I think Anne knew her own mind and I like to think her strong beliefs influenced her decision to breach this marriage (no I didn’t think she was her father’s pawn gah I’m sick of that term), but they were ultimately unsuited in everything and it was a passion brought about by Henry’s caprice. My heart breaks when I think on how Anne could have been happily married to Henry Percy. I’m also tried of this whole ‘master manipulator of men’s hearts’ reputation Anne is getting. You do realise refusing to be a mistress was not being a tease as much as it was just being a conventionally virtuous woman..? The girl knew her worth.

George x Isabel: Oh god. I promise to not start writing an essay. As weird as it is to ship dead people, they are my OTP, the main characters of my main historyfanfic, and frankly the most unsung couple of TWOTR. The fact that there are no records of letters or any particularly over-the-top romantic gestures by either of them, just intrigues me more because it was very much a relationship defined in subtle deeds. If you peruse the more academic TWOTR literature you can see all the fine but conclusive evidences of a devoted relationship: He posthumously enrolled her in a guild when he stayed there with his children (months after she died), he was buried together with her and her ancestors not his, how during 1470 he sent her to Exeter for her safekeeping while her mother and sister remained at Warwick and when a siege broke out he (and his father-in-law) immediately rode south to lift it and the amount of expenses and care he put into her funeral. Not to mention, the hassle it took for them to get married: years of trying to get a dispensation underneath the king’s nose culminating in them having to cross the channel.

The thing is, it had a lot of politics behind it and to be honest I don’t find that less romantic. It was one right for both of them: for the wealthiest heiress in England and the handsome younger brother and heir of King Edward - truly no one else would do for any of them. One of the things that grabs me is the medievalness of it all, how they were bound together by what was essentially a plan to reverse the country’s inevitable transition out of ‘bastard feudalism’. You also get a sense of how this marriage despite the ultimate failure of its purpose (to make George King) brought George the chance to establish himself as a major magnate through his wife’s lands which ultimately became his main source of power as opposed to his royal status. The relative peace that ensued after 1472 shows that his status as Warwick’s political heir (as Christine Carpenter put it) did something to placate the disapointment of not becoming king. So the way I see it, Isabel’s death took from him any of the satisfaction and peace she brought with her lands and persona as he once again reverted to his old (even more than before) reckless self. Not to mention the people he executed after her death in his grief believe in her to have been poisoned (most historians believe that’s unlikely).

Aside from that, in a society where pretty much everyone strayed (even Anthony Woodville had a bastard daughter), it is quite heart-warming how the man known for his treachery, happened to be one of the only ones loyal to his wife: no bastards or women were ever linked to his name not even in rumour. As for Isabel, she is quite a shadowy figure but you get the sense she was intelligent because of the care her father took in preparing her as his heir, because of her wealth you get this sense of majesty and significance about her. The two times we can deduce anything about her personality is a true supporter of her husband: once, when deciding to treat with the Yorks behind her father’s back to reconcile George to them, second, remaining steadfast to George when he tried to squirrel her sister Anne out of her inheritance. Based on the homage she paid to her ancestors, she seems proud of her ancestry so it’s quite intriguing to think why she made the aforementioned two choices, endangering her father and sister in favour of her husband. And oh god I’m rambling, I can say even more if you can believe it but I shall stop. Overall, one might think I’m wishful thinking but frankly Anne and Richard are touted as star-crossed lovers all the time and with even littler evidence to support it (not that I don’t ship them, I do). I might be subjective, but the story of George and Isabel’s life is just so compelling...

[pinkandblueblurbs]

any alan rickman slander will not be tolerated on my watch. Also the hate you get on tiktok for liking bad characters is disgusting. Snape wasn’t a good person but you can still like him. I get if they romanticise death eaters like that’s obviously not okay but most people who like snape are very aware he wasn’t a great person. I personally don’t like draco but the hate for draco stans on tiktok is awful. And as much as i love the marauders and the fandom , a lot of them have superiority complexes and gatekeep to an extreme. In any other fandom it’s fine to like villains , but not in the harry potter fandom which i honestly don’t get (again , it’s only okay if they adress the faults of the character and don’t justify them )

true. Like Loki stans in the marvel fandom face far less backlash, it’s so so weird how the HP fandom gets so intense about this shit

[bakugouisabitch]

I think it’s hilariously ironic how your tumblr page says you have a thing for villains and evil characters and you go on to say Sesshomaru is being depicted as evil for “gRoOmInG” Rin (which please tell me how. I see nothing that depicts this except for your hypothetical reasons). You’re making him the bad guy but you don’t have a thing for him? I thought you had a thing for villains? Talk about being hypocritical

honestly anon.... that comment abt my blog description and my love for villains is so stupid I'm not even replying to that. sorry. I don’t have time for that. Grow a brain and you’ll understand.

But I can help you on your questioning how this could be seen as grooming cause it’s actually quite easy to explain: you guys assume he never touches her until she’s legal, right? point proven. In your fucked up world he waits for her until she’s old enough so he can have her. He grooms her to his bride as soon as she’s legal. This is it. This is grooming, my buddy. Where in this explanation is a “hypothetical reason” that I might have pulled out of my ass just to counter you?? You brought this ‘trope’ on yourself (since your other option would mean him falling in love with her when she’s still a child. but I guess this is even too disturbing for your liking or maybe you’re just too scared of the backlash you’ll get when you admit it). This ship is based on pairing up a CHILD with an adult, so it’s just wrong. From every aspect possible. You can say “but he’s a DeMoN” “but they are sOuLMaTeS” “but it’s FiCtiONaL” or whatever shit you come up with to defend the fact that you get off on such things, but it still remains disgusting and wrong. STOP romanticising such things. It doesn’t take much to do it, even for braindead people like you. It is wrong and it should be seen for what it is: a crime. 

Now get the fuck off my blog, thanks.