#cisandrogynous

[ryanyflags]

Cis Flags

A continuation of my trans flags post, I made cis versions using my alt cis flag. (If you want to know where I got the outer colours from, explanations on their names, and such, please read the linked trans flags post, these are all based on those, and I don't want to re-type all that text.)

These are made to be inclusive. So cis nonbinary, cis intersex, cis trans, and more, are included. Whatever cis means to someone, if they want to use these flags for themselves, then they can :)

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cismasculine/cismasc ★ cisfeminine/cisfem ★ cisnonbine/cisenbine/cisnbine/cisnonbinarine

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cisandrogynous ★ cisgenless/cisgendless/cisgenderless ★ cisneutral/cisneu

(Note: cisgenderless is the name that make sense, given the format of the other terms and the transgenderless term it's based off of, however cisgenderless is already a name for another term (though I imagine there would be overlap between this and that), so I came up with cisgenless and cisgendless as alt terms, just so they won't get mixed up.)

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cismaverine/cismav ★ cisxenine/cisxen ★ cisbine/cisbinarine

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cismidbine/cismidbinarine ★ cisabine/cisabinarine ★ cisatrine/cisatrinarine

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cisaporine ★ cisoutherine

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From here on are combos of the above flags/terms :D

cisnbinemasc ★ cisandrogynousmasc ★ cisgenderlessmasc

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cisneumasc ★ cismavmasc ★ cisxenmasc

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cisnbinefem ★ cisandrogynousfem ★ cisgenderlessfem

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cisneufem ★ cismavfem ★ cisxenfem

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cismascfem/cisfemasc

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The flags all follow the format of my cis flag. So that's where the center 5 stripes, and gradient colour order of the outer stripes, come from. The main colours (2 outer stripes), are the same as on the aforementioned trans flags. (Except cisbine and cismascfem have their colour orders flipped, because I thought they looked too much like trans flags otherwise.)

It's the same thing with the name thing, there's just so many possible alt names, so I didn't list them all. Feel free to use these flags for alt names, or with your own name variations (as long as they mean the same thing).

[crowdsourcedgender]

[Image ID: A pride flag with seven horizontal dark stripes. The center stripe splits in the middle to form a circle, similar to the intersex flag. The colors from top to bottom are: light yellow, dark yellow, dark purple, purple, reverse colors. /End ID]

Name: Remandrogynous

Source: @narciie from this post

A term that refers to someone who is cisandrogynous and/or experiences androgyny in a cisgender way due to being intersex.

This term is not exclusive to any specific type of intersex person, just intersex people in general. A non-exclusive term (cisandrogynous) can be found here and probably elsewhere.

'Rem-' is from 'remain' (as in, remaining within androgyny) and it could be used elsewhere as a specifically intersex version of 'cis-' if anyone would like! The purple circle and yellow fade represent intersex identity, the dark purple represent androgyny and the dark colors represent cisgenderness.

[redacted-coiner]

cismidbine, cisabine, cisatrine

cisnbinemasc, cisandrogynousmasc, cisgenderlessmasc

cisnbinefem, cisandrogynousfem, cisgenderlessfem

Flags in use(link)

DNI is listed within my pinned post. Please go read it before interacting with any part of my content. Ask to tag!

[ijustwannamakeemojis]

[ID: Eight pixel hearts of various flags in order being alt Straight, alt Cis, Cismasculine, Cisfeminine, Cisnonbine, Cisandrogynous, Cisgenless, and Cisneutral. End ID]

julietianboy (deactivated 💔) Straight

@ryanyflags the rest

[sapphic-horror]

DISPARFEM | DISPARFEMMASC | DISPARMASC

DISPARANDROGYNOUS | DISPARNEU | DISPARNULL

[pt: disparfem, disparfemmasc, disparmasc, disparandrogynous, disparneu, disparnull. /end pt]

— disparfem; someone who identifies as cisfeminine despite it not corresponding to their agab due to being intersex.

— disparfemmasc; someone who identifies as cisfeminine and cismasculine despite it not corresponding with their agab due to being intersex.

— disparmasc; someone who identifies as cismasculine despite it not corresponding with their agab due to being intersex.

— disparandrogynous; someone who identifies as cisandrogynous despite it not corresponding with their agab due to being intersex.

— disparneu; someone who identifies as cisneutral despite it not corresponding with their agab due to being intersex.

— disparnull; someone who identifies as cisnull despite it not corresponding with their agab due to being intersex.

— "cis" can be replaced by "ipso" if the user feels that term better describes their experience. all terms are inclusive of cistrans / ipsoulter folks, the user may also use exparium terms alongside these (for example, being exparfem and disparmasc, or being exparfemmasc and disparfemmasc). someone using disparmasc/disparfem does not mean they are afab/amab. all are intersex exclusive

— colors from ryanyflags's cis- flags (link), archived disparium post on interarchive (original coiner is julietianboy [deactivated], link)

— tagging @the-astropaws @brrobin

[charlie-lottie]

BiCiS • БИЦИС

[ in English ]

ᡣ𐭩ᯓ a general term under the multicis (link) umbrella that refers to intersex people with two cisgenders ᯓᡣ𐭩

For example: cisfemale+cismale ; cismale+cisneutral ; some cisandrogyn ; and others.

[ на русском ]

ᡣ𐭩ᯓ общий термин находящийся под мультицис (ссылка) зонтом, обозначающий интерсекс с двумя цисгендерами ᯓᡣ𐭩

Например: цисженщена+цисмужчина ; цисмужчина+циснейтрал ; некоторых цисандрогин ; и других.

Mentions / Tags: @radiomogai @acronym-chaos @imoga-pride @beyond-mogai-pride-flags @cisqueer-archive

[bsd-bah]

May we have a Level 3 (or 2 with titles added) Tatsuhiko Shibusawa? Heavy on the dragon angle, please.

Names: Tatsuhiko, Everett, Valentyn, Eitan

Pronouns: he/draco/drae/claw/fang/scale/dragon

Age: 29, deadage

Species: dragon shifter

Roles: Protector, archivist, gatekeeper-persecutor

Genders: dragongender, dragonmasc, dragotix, dragondeity, beastthing, rabidpredator, th?ng

Sexuality: bisexual with masc lean, demiromantic

CisIDs: cisdragonshifter, ciswhitehair, cisintersex, cisandrogynous, cisredeyes, cisharmful, cisBPD

TransIDs: permadragon, transharmed, permawinedrunk, transpolyamorous, transASPD, transschizophrenia

Paraphilias: ❣️, 🐊, 🌓, 👀, ⚠️, 🐉, 🗡️🩸

Titles: [PRN] That/Which Lurks Unseen, The Creature/Dragon with Claws like Knives, Anarchy in Motion, [PRN] Who Mimics Humans, [PRN] Who Will Avenge

[revenant-coining]

Azliangi | Ecliangi

(pt: Azliangi | Ecliangi /end pt)

Azliangi/Azliandrogynous; a headmate that cisandrogynous in headspace and/or their memories, but would be considered transandrogynous if going by the collective/system/etc’s body.

Ecliangi/Ecliandrogynous; a headmate that is transandrogynous in headspace and/or their memories, but would be considered cisandrogynous if going by the collective/system/etc’s body.

etymology; azli/ecli, angi/androgynous

for anon!

tagging; @radiomogai

[neopronouns]

A term for being cis androgyne?

i found cisandrodyne/cisandrogynous!

[beyond-mogai-pride-flags]

Cisandrogynous Pride Flag

[ID: 5 horizontal stripes of violet, grey, lighter gray, grey, and indigo. En ID.]

Cisandrogyny or cisdrogyny: ascribing cisgender androgyny; individuals experiencing ones assigned gender and an androgynous identity (cisandrogyne/cisdrogyne) and/or presentation (cisdrogynous).

It could be psychological, biological, cultural or social androgyny.

[thinking-aromanticism]

Carnival of Aros, October 2021

Does your gender affect how you approach friendships? Do other people’s genders affect your friendships with them?

Does your sexual orientation affect your approach to friendship? Do any other orientations of yours you may have affect your approach?

Content warnings: sexual topics, discussion of sexually explicit media, discussion of fictional sexual harassment and assault, discussion of transphobia, homophobia, and bipanphobia. See end for disclaimer.

Back in 2019, a lot of people got very emotionally into the supposed nonbinary representation in Good Omens, and really into discourse over the androgyneity of angels as a species and the value of emotional investment in same. I found the discourse pretty tired and tiresome, plus the series just wasn’t my speed. This isn’t because I’m somehow above getting invested in media like Good Omens, but because what really thrills me chills me and fulfills me sucks far worse. Despite, or perhaps because of the abjectly objectionable nature of the text, I came to resonate with another depiction of genderless angels the following year. This is that “representation”.

[ID: A chibi stylized Nendoroid series plastic figure of a thin, pale-skinned angel with long yellow hair, blue eyes, white wings, and a thick halo with a chunk broken out of it. They wear a simple white strapless dress gathered under their small bust, black bike shorts, and brown sandals. /end ID]

This is Crimvael. Crimvael is a character from the erotic comedy manga and anime series Interspecies Reviewers, an angel trapped on the earthly plane by the accident of a broken halo, befriended by a human and an elf named Stunk and Zel. When they first meet, Stunk and Zel assume that Crimvael is a young man, but they aren’t sure at first. When they ask Crim to confirm their assumption, Crim assures them that Crim is male, even flashing the two some clothed bulge as a guarantee. Their first act as friends is to take Crim to a brothel to have sex with a catgirl. Thus begins the trio’s life together as the titular “interspecies reviewers”, posting  summaries of their experiences with various species of monster girl sex workers to bulletin boards across the fantasyland they inhabit.

The truth is that Crim is not a man. They lied because they were worried about getting sexually harassed. Like all angels in this setting, Crim has a doubly-sexed body and is culturally and emotionally gender-free. Crim is capable of socializing in their recently assigned gender, but only by concealing a part of themself, both physically as they make sure that their friends never see everything between their legs, and emotionally as they keep their cisandrogynous identity under wraps. Crim has no guilt or angst about this situation. Coming from a lifetime of unquestioned, comfortable genderlessness, they experience misgendering not as an invalidation of a trans gender identity, but as the success of a disguise they’ve taken on for temporary convenience in a strange land. And yet, gender is a glass wall between them and the men and women of the surface world.

Crim experiences a disjuncture between the external appearance of their interpersonal relationships and their internal experiences of those relationships. This disjuncture is mediated by both androgynehood and bisexuality. The men and women around Crim understand “him” as a cis man, and project on “him” what the understand to be normative male sexuality: heterosexual, penetrative, active, and structured around an exchange of male money for female sexual labor. Crim has fun “as a man”, but is constantly conscious of how gender forms and limits their social interactions.

Because Stunk and Zel understand Crim as a man, they invite “him” to socialize with them as a man. They speak to “him” “man-to-man” and assume that “he” will want the things that men want, that is, the things that they want. Female sex workers see “him” mostly as a john or a potential john. As a “man” Crim is gender nonconforming - small, pretty, polite, shy, vulnerable, and gentle. “His” gender nonconformity renders “him” relatively nonthreatening to women, but not entirely. This is exemplified in Crim’s relationship with the recurring character Meidri, their coworker at a tavern. She sometimes positions herself as a protector of Crim’s shy and innocent virtue, but when reacting to “his” engagements with sex workers sees “him” as just another perverted man. The few non-angels who know about Crim’s angelic androgyneity treat Crim as a sexual and/or scientific experiment. Only other angels, i.e. other androgynes, interact with them fully as another person without the filter of an assumed gender identity. Can Crim be “real” friends with people who don’t know or understand their relationship with gender? Is that an authentic social connection?

Crim enjoys themself hanging out with the guys, but there’s always that gulf between them, invisible to Stunk and Zel but always notable to Crim. Crim’s desires are shaped differently than Stunk and Zel’s, though they’re careful not to discuss this in any way that would out them as either bisexual or androgyne. Crim has different perspectives on relationships and consent, coded as much more feminine than Stunk and Zel’s. Crim is sometimes confused by gendered perspectives on sex and beauty, but they keep their mouth shut on the strangeness of gender. Though Crim is assigned top at “cishet guy”, limiting much of their sexual experimentation to the conventional “male” role, they’re actually vers, another sexual ambiguity they keep quiet about to pass as “normal”. The “homosociality” that Crim enjoys with men is premised on them keeping stealth, and always inflected by their awareness that they are not like the others. The “heterosexuality” that Crim enjoys with women is premised on them sticking to a role they’ve been assigned, and always inflected by their desires outside of these expectations. Crim’s friendships are characterized by emotional ambivalence and repeated internal acknowledgements of the pretext they exist under. And these are Crim’s friendships, these are the friendships Crim has in their life.

Crim’s gender situation is both textually unambiguous and up for debate. The text makes it clear that Crim is inarguably physically ambiguous, does not identify with any gender, and is treated as neither man nor woman by other characters who are in possession of the facts. However, many viewers and readers have other perspectives. Porn and erotica, especially content with scifi and fantasy elements, have their own logics and narrative conventions around gender. In the parlance of the fan communities that read a series like Interspecies Reviewers, Crim straddles the line between “trap” and “futanari”, that is, between a male so pretty and feminine that he’s sort of like a girl, and a woman with a dick but not in a trans way. These are transphobic slurs, kind of, but they’re also the exact concepts under consideration, the lenses through which Crimvael is both produced and consumed as a fictional character. Fans have competing understandings of this character, with some understanding Crim as basically a type of woman and some understanding them as basically a type of man. Different fan understandings are often based on maintaining heterosexuality: Crim is basically a man when they’re fucking women, and basically a woman when they fall under the sexual interest of a man. 

My gender is subject not to fan understandings, but to family understandings, peer understandings, and understandings of strangers at bus stops. I am neither a woman nor a man, so my friendships with women and men are neither same gender friendships nor opposite gender friendships. I approach relationships with women and men always as an outsider to gender, but many women and men either do not perceive or do not understand that. They round me off in different directions.

Being visibly, notably, and by identity androgynous, I may be included in both “girl stuff” and “guy stuff”. I may be included in brunch with the girls, mani-pedis, spa trips, and shopping for dresses and high heels. But then, I may be included in hangouts with the boys, home woodworking, grindr, and chatter over video games and beard care. I may be advised to wax my face, or to wear jeans instead of skirts. It’s hard to know exactly how someone receives me, even when they make remarks that might seem clearly gendering. “That’s right, girl” can mean a lot of different things from a lot of different people. 

My bisexuality is less public than my androgyneity. While I’m transgender to any random stranger, I’m bisexual only to people I talk with, and mostly to friends. I speak little of my sexual attractions outside of friendships. I don’t know how people fill in their presumptions around my sexuality. Perhaps to some people I seem obviously bisexual as a function of my sexual ambiguity. Perhaps to some people, my sexual ambiguity renders it seemingly impossible that I could engage with anyone sexually. Others may read me as some kind of oddly manlike lesbian, oddly womanlike gay, some kind of female sexual option for men, or some kind of male sexual threat to women. 

My friends who know that I’m bisexual are trans and queer and know that my bisexuality is no threat to them, neatly avoiding any “fox in the henhouse” worries about the supposed threat of sexual attraction within friendships. Among my associates, an ambiguous level of potential sexual attraction between any set of friends is normal and unconcerning. 

I don’t deliberately steer away from friendships with cis people, and yet my few cis friends are mostly through circumstance, degrees of separation, and family relationship. I don’t deliberately steer away from friendships with binary men or women, and yet the large majority of my friends are nonbinary, including many of the men and women. It would be fair to say that I have been more enthusiastic in making friends with people whose approaches to gender are more similar to my own. Sometimes I feel that cis people simply are not very interested in interacting with me, that there is something offputting about what I am, that my existence forms a demand to be understood that many do not feel inclined to bother meeting. I have understood myself to be shy, and I have been told that I am unusually outgoing. 

My transandrogynous identity has different context and consequences than Crimvael’s cis androgyneity. Most obviously, mine is the result of a process of deliberate self-understanding, while theirs is presented as simply a fact of their species - disqualifying them neatly from Wikipedia’s running list of nonbinary characters. I am out to anyone capable of understanding what they see when they look at me, while Crim is some fantastical combination of stealth and closeted. There are other differences. 

Crim is not what I would call a win for nonbinary representation. Interspecies Reviewers makes clear a complete disinterest in depicting transgender characters. As a refusal, it’s neither gentle nor callous, just absolute. It’s in that careless disregard for trans existence that Crim’s experiences come to be somehow authentic to mine. Deliberate attempts to portray nonbinary people are beholden to some kind of sensitivity: the nonbinary person must be respected and known for who they are, or if they are alienated that alienation must be resolved, or if it is not resolved it must teach something about the tragedy and evil of transphobia. Or, if the work is deliberately hostile to nonbinary gender, the insult must be legible. Because Crimvael is not nonbinary like a trans human, and because Interspecies Reviewers is a show about monster girl titties, there is no intended message about the vicissitudes of friendship as a nonbinary person in a world of men and women. The glass wall simply is.

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Disclaimer: Interspecies Reviewers is a deeply misogynistic, transphobic, and homophobic series. I do not recommend it on any grounds, and I specifically do not recommend it as trans or nonbinary representation. If you are interested in pursuing the series, be advised that the anime is drastically more explicit than the manga and that both contain significant elements of sexual harassment and assault played for laughs. Please exercise critical thought and self care in your media consumption.

[isobug]

Can you do a flag for cisgender androgyny?

Do you mean an Alt. Cisandrogynous flag?

[redacted-coiner]

cismasculine, cisnonbine, cisfeminine

cisandrogynous, cisgenless, cisneutral

cismaverine, cisbinarine, cisxenine

Flags found here!(link)

DNI is listed within my pinned post. Please go read it before interacting with any part of my content. Ask to tag!

@ryanyflags

[obscurian]

cisandrogynous ★ cisgenless / cisgendless / cisgenderless ★ cisneutral / cisneu

(Note: cisgenderless is the name that make sense, given the format of the other terms and the transgenderless term it's based off of, however cisgenderless is already a name for another term (though I imagine there would be overlap between this and that), so I came up with cisgenless and cisgendless as alt terms, just so they won't get mixed up.)

cismaverine / cismav ★ cisxenine / cisxen ★ cisbine / cisbinarine

cismidbine / cismidbinarine ★ cisabine / cisabinarine ★ cisatrine / cisatrinarine

cisaporine ★ cisoutherine

From here on are combos of the above flags/terms :D

cisnbinemasc ★ cisandrogynousmasc ★ cisgenderlessmasc

cisneumasc ★ cismavmasc ★ cisxenmasc

cisnbinefem ★ cisandrogynousfem ★ cisgenderlessfem

cisneufem ★ cismavfem ★ cisxenfem

cismascfem / cisfemasc

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The flags all follow the format of my cis flag. So that's where the center 5 stripes, and gradient colour order of the outer stripes, come from. The main colours (2 outer stripes), are the same as on the aforementioned trans flags. (Except cisbine and cismascfem have their colour orders flipped, because I thought they looked too much like trans flags otherwise.)

It's the same thing with the name thing, there's just so many possible alt names, so I didn't list them all. Feel free to use these flags for alt names, or with your own name variations (as long as they mean the same thing).

Cis Flags

A continuation of my trans flags post, I made cis versions using my alt cis flag. (If you want to know where I got the outer colours from, explanations on their names, and such, please read the linked trans flags post, these are all based on those, and I don't want to re-type all that text.)

These are made to be inclusive. So cis nonbinary, cis intersex, cis trans, and more, are included. Whatever cis means to someone, if they want to use these flags for themselves, then they can :)

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cismasculine/cismasc ★ cisfeminine/cisfem ★ cisnonbine/cisenbine/cisnbine/cisnonbinarine

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cisandrogynous ★ cisgenless/cisgendless/cisgenderless ★ cisneutral/cisneu

(Note: cisgenderless is the name that make sense, given the format of the other terms and the transgenderless term it's based off of, however cisgenderless is already a name for another term (though I imagine there would be overlap between this and that), so I came up with cisgenless and cisgendless as alt terms, just so they won't get mixed up.)

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cismaverine/cismav ★ cisxenine/cisxen ★ cisbine/cisbinarine

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cismidbine/cismidbinarine ★ cisabine/cisabinarine ★ cisatrine/cisatrinarine

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cisaporine ★ cisoutherine

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From here on are combos of the above flags/terms :D

cisnbinemasc ★ cisandrogynousmasc ★ cisgenderlessmasc

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cisneumasc ★ cismavmasc ★ cisxenmasc

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cisnbinefem ★ cisandrogynousfem ★ cisgenderlessfem

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cisneufem ★ cismavfem ★ cisxenfem

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cismascfem/cisfemasc

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The flags all follow the format of my cis flag. So that's where the center 5 stripes, and gradient colour order of the outer stripes, come from. The main colours (2 outer stripes), are the same as on the aforementioned trans flags. (Except cisbine and cismascfem have their colour orders flipped, because I thought they looked too much like trans flags otherwise.)

It's the same thing with the name thing, there's just so many possible alt names, so I didn't list them all. Feel free to use these flags for alt names, or with your own name variations (as long as they mean the same thing).

[bsd-bah]

hi hi! level 2 italy hetalia? tysvm!!!!

Names: Feliciano, Feli, Angel, Amadeus, Vito

Pronouns: he/they/it/angel/hymn/pasta/cutie/🐾/🍝/🪽

Age: ageless adult, puppyxenoage

Species: anthropomorphized nation, dog hybrid

Roles: ED therapist, comforter, existential distracter, cheerer

Genders: pupneu, angelpuppic, fluffypuppic, sleepypupneu, angelmasc, idolmasc, gendersweet, cutecreature, LBiNhoarder (loverboy-in-nature term hoarder)

Sexuality: panromantic asexual

CisIDs: cisnation, cisitalian, cisbrownhair, cisandrogynous, trisDPD, cisloverboy

TransIDs: permaeyesclosed, nullimmortal, permahungry, permadrooling, transBPD, trisDPD

Paraphilias: 🧵, 💧, 💕, 🪢, 🫂, 🌧️, 🧹, ⚙️🐾

EEE FINALLY!! WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR A HETALIA REQUEST!! its one of our biggest special interests!!!!! i hope you like himmmmm hes one of our favorites :D -ochako

[beyond-mogai-pride-flags]

Cismascfem Pride Flags

Cismascfem (cisfemasc, cisfemmasc, cisfemmemasc, or cisfemasline): being cismasculine and cisfeminine; cisgender individuals experiencing femasline gendered feelings to a greater extent than with neutrality.

Similar to cisandrogyny (cisdrogyny, cisdrogynous, cisandrogynous).