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eliza! … and darwin, too!
pls let me join the non existent wild thornberrys fandom 🙏
#the wild thornberrys#nickelodeon#nicktoon#nicktoons#eliza thornberry#darwin thornberry#nick rewind#nickelodeon fanart#art#my art#artists on tumblr#fanart#procreate#artwork#drawing#cartoon#cartoons#digital art#klasky csupo#artists of tumblr#2000s nostalgia#90s nostalgia#nostalgia#love the show sm it still holds up rly well
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Darwin from The Wild Thornberrys 🙈
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#youtube#90s Nick#90s Nicktoons#The Wild Thornberrys#Lacey Chabert#Jodie Carlisle#Tim Curry#Danielle Harris#Flea#Tom Kane#Eliza Thornberry#Marianne Thornberry#Nigel Thornberry#Debbie Thornberry#Donnie Thornberry#Darwin Thornberry#behind the scenes#voice acting#retro Nickelodeon#Nickelodeon#voice cast#NickRewind
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Fun show. Fun ending.
#the wild thornberrys#nigel thornberry#marianne thornberry#debbie thornberry#eliza thornberry#darwin thornberry#donnie thornberry#cordelia thornberry#radcliffe thornberry#sir nigel
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Darwin v Binyah Binyah v Cerberus
Darwin
Animal: Chimpanzee
Person: Eliza Thornberry
Media: The Wild Thornberrys
Binyah Binyah
Animal: Frog
Person: The Alston Family
Media: Gullah Gullah Island
Cerberus
Animal: Hellhound
Person: Hades/Zagreus
Media: Hades
#nondisneyanimalbesties#non disney#yen sids poll#darwin#wild thornberrys#eliza thornberry#binyah binyah#frog#chimpanzee#the alston family#gullah gullah island#cerberus#hellhound#hades game#hades#zagreus
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Darwin: We can't do it. Eliza: We can do it, we will do it, and we are doing it. Does that answer your question?
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Nick Trios 5 by AfroOtaku917
#chalkzone#the wild thornberrys#big nate#rudy tabootie#penny sanchez#snap#eliza thornberry#darwin#donnie#nate wright#francis pope#teddy ortiz
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This isn't me trying to defend Aang this is me trying to continue the conversation, one thing that comes to mind as heroic/altruistic was The Great Divide episode where Aang came up with that story that ended a generations long feud between those two tribes
See, The Great Divide is one of the episodes that made me really not like Aang. To me, it wasn't him being anything other than lazy. Here's the thing, the show sets Aang up as this wise-beyond-his-years hero who's going to lead the world on into peace, but all it showed me was that he's a bad leader. He sucks at conflict resolution. His one job. That "peace" he left those two groups in absolutely did not last because, petty as they were, they had generations' long issues with each other, and those types of prejudices don't just go away because someone comes by with a cute story.
It's been a while, but I've said it before that this could have been Aang's moment to shine. In fact, another Nickelodeon show had done something similar a couple of years earlier. Only when Eliza was faced with the same situation on The Wild Thornberrys, she actually did come up with a wise solution to prove that their prejudices were baseless. She took away the means that the monkeys used to discriminate one another, and showed them that they weren't that different after all. She and Darwin went through a similar arc as Katara and Sokka where they took sides and it came between them, but they remembered that they cared about each other and came up with a solution together.
The writers of ATLA had a chance to do something similar, and to prove that Aang was actually wise, instead of just telling us he is. OR they had the chance to have Aang acknowledge his failure, and give him a motive to grow and listen to smarter people, and learn to be the leader he's "destined to be". Instead they proved that he is only willing to help as far as it doesn't inconvenience him too much. That he's not above lying to get his way. That he doesn't care to understand the deeper issues between groups.
All of this is totally forgivable in an IRL child. That's a lot to put on a kid IRL. The problem is Aang isn't a child. He's the protagonist of a story where he is meant to be the messiah of that world. A story where people keep talking about how smart and wise and kind he is, but we never actually see him be any of those things. I for one refuse to give him credit just because the story says I should. Not when the rest of the team is right there being the heroes that world really needed.
#atla#anti aang#the wild thornberrys#all TGD did was prove that aang had bad leadership skills#that would be fine except the show wanted me to see it as smart of him#it was not#THE YEAR OF CONTENT!!!!
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CATCHING MY BREATH, STARING OUT AN OPEN WINDOW
Morgan Neuer is based on Morph from Treasure Planet. She is a 29 year old shapeshifter, podcaster, and uses she/they pronouns. They have the power of shifting. Morgan is portrayed by Megan Stalter and she is open.
CATCHING MY DEATH, AND I COULDN’T BE SURE
There are times in life when people feel like they're being molded and formed into whatever the people around them want them to be - for Morgan, that was quite literal. An amorphous blob for more time than she'd care to admit, Morgan spent a lot of her time stirring up trouble and getting away with it because she could. It was easy to infiltrate conversations or situations and run away without having to worry about the consequences. Until she met John Silver. There was something about him that felt right, something that made her feel like they belonged (for better or for worse). He was a troublemaker at heart, just like them, and he let her get away with whatever she wanted just as long as she always listened to him. It was a nice existence until she got wise to the fact that he wasn't exactly what she thought he was. A wake up call. Morgan might have liked causing trouble and getting into things she shouldn't, but at their core, she had a good heart. Hurting people wasn't something she signed up for. It was hard after so many years, enough that they'd lost track of the exact amount, for her to stand up to her boss and confidant, but it had to happen. Adventuring with Jim came naturally, it was a breath of fresh air. They got into all kinds of mischief but even Morgan didn't see Evermore coming. By the time they were wise to the weird vibe of the town, it was too late! Trapped once again and this time, well, this time something even more bizarre happened. Morgan was no longer a blob but stuck as a human - they didn't love that but it did make it easy to fit in! Now that she couldn't wander the stars and create cute and fun chaos, she had to settle for creating harmless trouble in Evermore. She could still shift, thankfully, but nothing as insane as she used to get away with, and she used that to help Jim out in trying to get out of this place. The two were constantly on the job and when she wasn't trying to find a way out, she was behind a microphone stirring up trouble in whatever (legal) way she could. Where was the harm in spreading some gossip or posing hypotheticals that might shake things up? At the end of the day, Morgan wants to have fun and all the little tricks and pranks are harmless...probably.
I HAD A FEELING SO PECULIAR
❀ Mona Aguilar: Podcasting has become a great way for Morgan to get her mischief out there and she likes seeing what other podcasters are doing - specifically Mona ❀ Darwin Thornberry: Darwin has always been someone Morgan finds to be rather stuck-up and put together, which means they find particular joy out of trying to rile him up ❀ Tyler Toivonen: Outside of Jim, Tyler is easily the person Morgan has the most fun with. He's got energy for days and never says no to getting into some trouble
THAT THIS PAIN WOULD BE FOR EVERMORE
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Jerry sounds like Spike from that one The thornberries/rugrats movie
I actually loved that movie as a kid, hah
I vaguely can recollect what he sounds like- did he have an accent or am I thinking of Darwin
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HEADCANON: The Thornberrys are multilingual. ( Outside of Donnie and Darwin ) Debbie's always had a natural talent for learning new languages faster than the rest of her family. Eliza tends to get jealous.
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I've got polls‽
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Oh lord.
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Completely stupid and useless conspiracy theory about Wild Thornberrys
Dr Doolittle is from a series of books from the 1920s to 1950s. A physician who can speak to animals. It is the template for characters who speak to animals.
The photo is Eddie Murphy as the title character in the 1998 Dr Doolittle movie which I think is the version of the people are more familiar with. In the books, Doolittle becomes a naturalist, and in the ‘98 movie, Doolittle starts off as someone who dislikes animals but being able to speak to them changes him.
Eliza Doolittle from the play “My Fair Lady”, here portrayed by Audrey Hepburn in the 1964 film.
Eliza is a Cockney flower girl who takes speech lessons from Henry Higgins, a phonetician, who is trying to pass her off as a duchess. A major theme is how manners of speech determine class and standing as well as economic opportunity. Hierarchal societies believe that there is an innate and intrinsic difference between people of different classes, and the experiment in the story attempts to show these differences are learned behaviors.
Eliza Thornberry from the Wild Thornberrys. She talks to animals, so she can’t escape being a reference to Dr. Doolittle.
But I think she’s also named after Eliza Doolittle?
Which doesn’t really make sense. Maybe it’s just word association, maybe it’s a coincidence. Maybe the curtains are just blue. The only real commonality is name Doolittle. But I think the choice is intentional, I’m going to make the argument that there is a connection between the three.
There is a belief in western cultures that humans are innately different from animals. If humans are separate from animals it means that humans can claim moral respect that animals don’t deserve. Humans see themselves as immortal beings created in the image of God, while animals are just physical organisms, no internality just instincts. Animals are seen as living meaninglessly and dying purposelessly. This connects to how we treat animals, as well as the larger environment. If we are separate from nature we don’t owe nature anything, and nature is there for us to consume.
And this connects to class as well, and the way society dehumanizes minoritized people. Making distinctions between humans and animals can then be used to make connections between different humans. White supremacy holds the idea that some humans are self-conscious and rational, while others are driven by animal desires. This pseudoscientific justification is used to treat other humans as less than because of a perceived or imagined proximity to animals. “Brutes,” “beasts,” “savages”, and the entire myth of racism, all used to separate us from animals, us from one another, and then us from ourselves.
This is a still from Disney’s 1943 short, “Reason and Emotion.”
Within this culture, our purpose is believed to be constraining our desires with rationality and purifying ourselves of animality. This flows into our scientific understanding as well, like Freud’s separation of id and ego, or the neurological distinction between the amygdala and the prefrontal cortex. Both attempts to separate the human self from the animal self.
Wild Thornberrys explores these themes with the characters of Donnie and Darwin. Donnie had educated parents, but after their deaths was raised by animals. He is socialized as an animal. (I think this also challenges some supremacist ideas about whiteness and it’s proximity from animals.) Darwin the chimpanzee speaks with a refined upper-class British accent, and would prefer to live in the human world than the wild. In this case, the behaviors of the upper-class Anglo culture are employed to try and separate oneself from one’s own animal biology. These characters question the rationalities we use to justify separating humans from animals.
So anyway, If Eliza can talk to animals, it means animals have sentience and internality and aren’t simply mindless organisms acting on instinct. This challenges the cultural assumption we have that humans are above and separate from animals. Much like My Fair Lady, this is about breaking down hierarchal class distinctions and raising difficult questions about how society treats lower class individuals. We use these distinctions to justify our treatments of animals, the environment, and how we treat minoritized or lower-class individuals. Communication gives way to empathy and appreciation.
I am not trying to argue that this was a conscious or intentional decision, I don’t have the information to make the argument. It’s just something to think about.
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