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howlingdemon13 · 2 months
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It’s my birthday, so that means I get to subject everyone to the annual joke that is my birth chart. 🤪
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Oops all Pisces.
The most Pisces Pisces to ever Pisces. ♓️
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myun-saidthoughts · 5 months
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Astrology Observations
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💫3rd house synastry increases ease with communication, especially when the Moon or Venus are involved, comfortability with sharing your feelings or thoughts/emotions will come natural.
💫For a woman, if she has an Aquarius Mars she will appreciate her partner to be visually or intellectually different.
Appearance Wise: someone who stands out in some way, someone who is comfortable in their feminine and masculine energy, someone who doesn't need outside validation from others, someone who is confident without being overly aggressive or forthcoming. Another note is someone who has an unique or artistic style, someone who puts effort in their wardrobe, (rings, necklaces, painted nails, accessories) Open-mindedness is very very ideal, and if they have more of a theoretical mindset with how they view the world brings in more attraction for the native.
💫4th house synastry (especially with conjunctions to your IC) will create an energy that brings you a sense of comfort you never knew was possible.
💫8th house friendships can also take on more of an intense dynamic, expectations still arise, especially for the person with more Scorpio/8H influence.
💫If you struggle with accepting intimacy, love, or romance but deal with South Node + water house synastry (along with other indicators of attraction such as aspects/house overlays/more past life synastry aspects) letting them go will feel impossible, especially if they bring you this type of curiosity you hardly feel from anyone else.
💫Neptune-Moon synastry doesn't get talked about enough. If attraction and desire are factors within relationships with harsh Neptune to Moon influence, the dynamic can feel fated. At one end of the spectrum the Neptune person can confuse the Moon person, the Neptune person can showcase as someone the Moon person can't really understand and yet there could be a desire to save or idealize them. Similar to Pluto influence the spectrum of the intensity depends on each souls but someone with a lot of Neptune/12th house placements in their natal chart will feel very drawn to this connection.
💫Vertex synastry comes at you unexpectedly. You could know someone for quite some time with no initial curiosity to know them better, but once they enter your atmosphere in some deep manner, you will feel very very close and comfortable with this person.
💫4th house synastry can elicit intense feelings especially if there are mutual IC conjunctions (bonus if each others Vesta asteroid conjuncts each others IC) as well as have Moon conjunct Pluto in the composite chart. These added factors will add more intense dependent need for this person.
💫Jupiter synastry is so cute. You will feel so optimistic when you're around this person. You can't help but feel like you can handle anything that comes your way, you're excited, content, and trusting of the individual looking at you (especially if you guys share more 4th house synastry).
💫Each water moon can struggle with extremes, in some shape or form.
💫 Individuals with natal 12th house placements (especially Venus) may often turn to music as a means of escaping reality.
💫Capricorn moon individuals struggle with accepting the fact that they have emotion. Often times their mother was absent or emotionally un-nurturing, leaving them to feel uncomfortable with sharing their emotions, they struggle with feeling safe, they may not have a direct resentment link towards their mother, but in some aspects her coldness leads them towards the same void of avoiding emotions they wish to escape from.
💫Libra stelliums are likely to find a partner, and with that partner they may lose their identity or self within them. They feel complete when another is "their person" but with it may also lead to codependency.
💫Libra karma can deal with issues of stating their opinions, thoughts, and desires. They may think it's easier to avoid conflict or disarray but all that does is create a deeper hole of forgetting who they truly are.
💫People with 8TH house natal placements (especially stelliums) are more likely to experience extremes in their life, whether it be with finances, partners, or emotion. It is likely that they can end up being dependent on another for resources/money etc.
💫Gemini placements (maybe even air placements in Gemini degrees) are more likely to be on the spectrum with their sexuality, it's more likely that they would be attracted to anyone they just find attractive. Although sexual attraction and romantic/emotional attraction are very different categories. You can be sexually attracted to someone but have no emotional or romantic desire for that individual, sexuality is a very complexed spectrum.
💫Sagittarius suns with Taurus risings handle pain with grace. More than likely if someone has these two placements with a poor placement Moon or harsh aspects towards the Moon/Sun/IC etc they are likely not to fixate or struggle with the emotional turmoil (compared to others).
💫Water moons typically have blurred boundaries with their mother. These placements manifest differently but boundaries when it comes to their mother or the love within their dynamic is often times more complicated.
💫Fire dominate/Venus individuals are more likely to have physical touch be their love language.
💫Gemini venus's get bored very easily, constant stimulation or some excitement in the dynamic is needed. (But 5H/7H/Cancer/Leo/Libra placements with a Gemini venus are less likely to become bored)
💫Moon-Mars & Venus-Asc synastry will create intense attraction almost instantly.
💫8th house stelliums are likely to deal with large sums of money at one point in their life, or they will owe others money, they will be given money, or other people's money becomes a major factor in their life; someway or somehow
💫9th house placements appreciate other people's culture, beliefs, thoughts, and ways of life that differ from their own.
💫Virgo's placements with prominent 10th house or Capricorn placements can create an individual to be very hard on themselves, the goals they place on themselves oftentimes exceed others, prompting them to feel less than if left unaccomplished or unproductive.
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rendezvouz-fling · 1 month
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Astro rants #9
So, why does no one tell you that the placements on your SR chart are how you act like that year?💀 Becauseee, I had Libra moon/rising last year and developed a love for Fashion and models and self care and all kinds of things😭. The chart ruler was Venus in Aries and my emotions were on an all time high. Literally. I felt like I had to put on this nice facade and please others for them to like me and I was also very cordial and understanding yet when I'd go off when no one was around.😭😂. I also gained a love for working out so I know that was the Aries venus for sure.
Now this year, I have rising in Sag and a stellium in Aqua (moon/venus/mars) and I don't really care for others' opinions or approvals and I've had somewhat of an ego boost and just feel more optimistic too. I wanna go out more to "explore" yet sometimes I just wanna stay home and not socialize?🥲 Pls tell me somebody else relates to their SR placements too. 😭
I've also moved this year and can't stop itching to go travel again. Watching travel vlogs and wanting to do more radical stuff.😭.
Alsooo. Has anyone noticed that you tend to "discover" or listen to artists with the same sign as your SR's asc? Last year I had Libra rising in my SR chart and discovered Brenda K Starr (Libra sun), I also listed to Mya (Libra sun) a lot last year. This year I have Sag rising in my SR chart and have been listening to Billy Idol (Sag sun), Stacy Lattisaw (Sag sun).
I also happened to notice that you make friends with people who's placements are in the same sign as your SR chart's 6H. E.g. In 2017 when I met my best friend I had Libra & Scorpio fall in my SR chart's 6H and She's a Scorpio sun with a Libra rising, venus and mercury.
In 2022 I met another one of my close friends who's a Cap sun & mercury and guess which signs fell over SR chart's 6H? Cap & Sag!!!
Anywho, that's all for now.🙃
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themedialmercurial · 1 year
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⭐️Astro Observations pt 3⭐️
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I noticed a pattern of a fire dominant parent having a water dominant child and vice versa. Also, parents tend to have children who possess the element they tend to lack
Many people tend to have their moon sign as their parents sun sign (or in the same element)
Aquarius placements tend to have something funky about their technology! They seem more prone to breaking their devices or have something particular about them, whether that be the choice of colour or the case for example 📀👩🏽‍💻
Aqua risings in particular tend to have very unique and mesmerizing eyes 👁️✨
Cancer mercuries tend to sound like they’re reciting poetry whenever they speak, it’s so beautiful (ex: Lana Del Rey) 🎶
Why are Virgo men literally this emoji: 🧍🏽
This is more of a question rather than an observation but does anyone else notice that when a native with a 10H stellium is messed with, karma is dealt to whoever messed with them in a heartbeat? It’s wild
Cancer stelliums tend to have a fuller shaped body and face, with emphasis on their chest.
Maybe I'm an exception to the rule but I, a cancer stellium, don't fancy seafood? Does this reasonate with any other cancers/water placement-heavy people? 🚫🐠
6H moons tend to struggle with digestive issues
Sun conjunct ascendant in synastry denotes a relationship that is easygoing, you both likely think very similarly and have similar habits
Can we talk about how elegantly sag risings carry themselves? So clean so polished and appear so confident (dare I say they seem unapproachable at first lol).
Pisces moons have very distinct eyes. They look round and big and watery. (celeb examples: Erykah Badhu, Dylan O'Brien, Jhené Aiko, etc)
Leo venuses love so hard. They dedicate themselves to their loved ones ❤️‍🔥
Virgos are unhinged behind closed doors! They know how to present themselves classily in public and let loose behind closed doors. It’s great to see honestly and this is not meant negatively! The more comfortable a virgo is around you, the more you'll see their unfiltered realness
Leo mercuries tend to be great storytellers but also not the best listeners! I love you guys but please, in a conversation, let the other person have their turn!
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youremyheaven · 1 month
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Guessing BTS Rising Signs
hello besties. I made this post a long time ago and since then, we've had TWO Bts members reveal their birth times so I thought it would be interesting to look at the rest of the members in this context. Here's my old post if you're curious.
I'll mention the members with confirmed birth times so that we can get that out of the way:
Jungkook- Mula Rising
His birth time was confirmed to be 3:23 PM which makes him a Mula Rising and tbh I've always seen him as hella Ketuvian (he also has Magha Moon) and this just fits. Mula's dog yoni does give him that puppyish charm, kind of androgynous style and a very endearing, silly personality. Plus like I mentioned in my post about Nodal people and how child stars often have Nodal placements + often tend to be heavily tattooed/pierced, Jungkook joined Bighit when he was 13yrs old and made his debut at 15yrs and has a tattoo sleeve and hella piercings<33
He is Purvaphalguni Sun, Magha Moon & Mula Rising
Jimin- Pushya Rising
His birth time is confirmed to be 11:58pm. Although he did not specify AM or PM, he did say he was born around "dawn" and im assuming that means the dawn of a new day because 11:58 am is most definitely not the dawn of anything. I've always suspected that he had Cancer Rising because of his appearance, full lips, round cheeks and all that 🥺and also just how sweet and soft his demeanor is 🫶🏼
He is Chitra Sun, Rohini Moon & Pushya Rising
Now here are my speculations for the other members:
Jin- Shravana Rising/Purvashada Rising
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purely based on his appearance i believe he has Moon influence because he's Jyeshta Sun & UBP Moon and i dont really see much of either (Jyeshta's rabbit yoni does come thru a little bit but I feel like his appearance is majorly influenced by something else??) He could also be Purvashada Rising and him being Venusian also makes sense to me but his no nonsense attitude, refusal to submit to anyone, how he acts as though he's better than others (most of the time, its just a joke and he is funny ngl) all comes down to Moon influence for me tbh and I def don't think he's Rohini or Hasta, his energy is harsher and more direct which makes me think Shravana
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Yoongi- Ashlesha Rising
i def think he has a cat yoni (he is PBP Sun which gives him lion yoni/feline influence but there has to be more to it than just that) i used to see him as Punarvasu but now I lean more towards Ashlesha tbh, he does seem to have a rakshasa gana nak in his big 3, he's very discriminate about who he gives his time and energy to and that's very sidereal cancer of him. also im convinced that him and Namjoon have outcaste naks in their rising because of the kind of journey they've had from the underground rap scene to the biggest band in the world
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Hobi- Ashwini/Bharani Rising
i think Hobi is an Aries Rising, like there's nooo way he does not have Aries influence (i know he's Krittika Moon) i think Bharani because its also an outcaste nak and BTS faced a lot of discrimination in so many different ways
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Namjoon- Vishaka Rising
i used to be torn between swati and vishaka but now im pretty convinced he's Vishaka Rising lol, first of all he has Jupiter influence, just trust me on that
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this is the cover of his first mixtape and he said his face is painted half-black because he feels that he's "half positive and half negative". if you've read anything ive written about Jupiter or watched Claire's vids on Jupiter you know that duality is a major Jupiter theme specifically the battle between good and evil. namjoon's lyricism also oscillates between opposites a lot. in seoul he sings about how "love and hate sound just the same to me" and all of these are extensions of his Jupiter influence. i know he has Venus & Jupiter in Swati but i dont think he has a Swati stellium because he's too balanced to have that much Rahu influence lol and even though he talks about struggling to maintain balance i think that's the Jupiter in him coming thruuu, Vishaka is also an outcaste nak and Namjoon has been the scapegoat for all kinds of hate for his whole career
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Taehyung- Rohini Rising
i think he has a serpent yoni ngl and if he's Rohini rising then it will be conjunct Jimin's moon which makes sense tbh and he also seems Moon influenced because of how emotional he is.
A major reason why I've assigned Outcaste naks to majority of the members is because of how they were the outcasts/underdogs in the industry for so long and if the shoe fits...yk I dont think those themes would manifest for them as a collective if the majority of them did not have those placements
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sugaringcozy · 5 months
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Donghyuck/Haechan Natal Chart Reading - Part 1: Personality, Mind and Identity
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Disclaimers: 
☁️ I will mainly be referring to Haechan as Donghyuck in this reading as I am referring to the actual person, not his stage persona. However, elements of his career/stage persona do come in and I may refer to him as Haechan then!
☁️ This natal chart reading is for entertainment purposes and this is just my perspective. Take this with a grain of salt.
☁️ My intention from this reading is just to understand Donghyuck better and appreciate the person he is, where any troubling topics come up I do not claim to know them as fact or wish to speculate.
Please do not copy my work and credit me if referencing!
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Personality
Standout Traits: Intelligent, changeable, sensitive, intuitive, hardworking and creative.
🫧 Eighth house in Gemini - Starting off with this because it is a perfect summary of everything I’m about to cover. Donghyuck is a really magnetic person, a brilliant mind and naturally draws attention to himself.  However, he has many sides to him and is a complex, interesting person and much more sensitive than people realise.
♋️ As you can see, Donghyuck has a LOT of Gemini on his chart lol. As such, there is a lot of Gemini energy. His Gemini chart stellium and Ruler show how well he can fit in with different groups of people, he’s a master at ‘fitting in’ - and he understands exactly what the public are thinking and want from him.
🪩 However, while some people like this are natural chameleons, you will never forget when Donghyuck is present. He is a ‘life of the party’ type as we know… but has a tendency to shock or contradict the normal way of thinking. He is a natural contrarian and doesn't have a filter. Combined with his impulsivity, he has a tendency to say things which are too blunt or taboo. These natives tend to love dirty jokes and I think Donghyuck does too lol
🔥 Gemini Sun and Mars Conjunction - gifts him incredible will-power and passion. Hyuck’s warrior self wants to work with his sun self, which is positive - he is fiery and brave, and this is what makes him SO competitive and ambitious.
💢 Scorpio Ascendant - Scorpios are seen as very mysterious and complex people, but they are actually incredibly honest and funny people. This makes sense for Donghyuck as he is sometimes a little too honest with his thoughts lmao.
🧸 Something else which really stood out is how sensitive he is. I will get into this more a later on, but just having a Cancer Mercury (with his Gemini stellium emphasising Mercury traits anyway) AND Pluto in 1st House makes him very expressive, sensitive, and reactive. Hyuck is someone whose feelings are always on their face. Unfortunately a tendency for mood swings can come with these signs, exacerbated by a Gemini stellium and other water signs...
🤹‍♂️ Leo Moon - At his core, Hyuck just loves to be creative and entertain others. He has a great sense of humour, but likes to tease and get on people’s nerves. This is his love language! BUT it also comes from a need to create fun for himself if there is no entertainment around him.  However, when he winds people up and gets into arguments he is forgiven just as easily. Leo Moons are very lovable people!!
🦁 A fixed Moon makes him incredibly loyal, determined and hard-working - this is brought out even more by the Leo placement. He has incredible stamina at work.
🩹 His Leo Moon self can be a little uncareful, and he has a tendency to sulk when his pride is hurt. Hyuck will also have a tendency to be emotionally dramatic and really perform his feelings (no surprise to anyone lol). Pride is a big thing for Leos and this is both good and bad, he can be a little bossy, petty, and will sit and sulk if he doesn't get his way. In terms of Hyuck as a person, having a Leo Moon in the 9th house is  wonderful. He is extremely intelligent, open-minded and able to read others very well.
🎭 People with a Leo Moon house placement are almost always naturally gifted with acting, dance and performance. A Leo Moon in general is the perfect placement for a life in the arts.
🏆 Aries in Donghyuck’s fifth house compliments his Leo moon perfectly - as a person, Hyuck is playful, athletic and competitive. Takes pleasure from perfectionism - wants to be the best, keep improving himself and be the first to do things. He has an incredibly youthful and boisterous - playful energy.
☁️ Uranus in Aquarius - Free-spirited, very unique personality. Creative and very intelligent. Intuitive and empathetic, but sometimes over-opinionated. Having Aquarius in Uranus (the house of change) suggests Donghyuck loves change and excitement - really fits with his other signs and placements. In fact, Donghyuck needs change and excitement in all areas of his life. Aquarius’ (myself included) are known for being lovably weird - we just do things which other people can't make sense of. I think this sign is quite fitting for Donghyuck because he definitely does some strange, hilarious and unexplainable things sometimes. It’s the embodiment of giving in to your impulses, and when combined with the flippant nature of his Gemini stellium it explains some of the crazy things he says so casually.
💫 Something which will keep coming up in this reading is just how forward-thinking Hyuck is. The Trine between Gemini Sun and Aquarius Uranus really demonstrates Hyuck does NOT like old-fashioned and stuffy views and wants to talk about taboos - which is a big deal in a deeply Confucian society like South Korea.
🪖 Jupiter Saturn Conjunction - Makes Donghyuck strong-willed, proud, brave and prosperous. Willing to work for his goals and has patience in achieving them - this is especially true in the context that he became a trainee as a child, with odds stacked against him and has worked his butt off to get where he is today. A mix of incredible luck and being a profoundly hard-worker.
🃏 Opposition between Jupiter and Ascendant/ ‘Jupiter Setting’ - Always very bold people with something quirky about them - usually a larger than life presence and good sense of humour - likes to play ‘the fool’.
🐂 Capricorn in the third house - Donghyuck has grown to be an incredibly resilient and resourceful adult. Very hardworking and will withstand pain to achieve what he wants - he understands sacrifice very well. Fits well with his Saturn in 6th House making him very dedicated and reliable.
🦚 Neptune in Aquarius means someone with a lot of unique inspiration who likes to be bold and daring. Hyuck is also genuinely compassionate and wants to fix problems for the sake of harmony - harmony is really important to him.
🎨 Moon and Neptune Opposition - Donghyuck’s imagination and creativity is really a gift - he will be able to come up with such unique concepts and authentic ideas if he can harness his imagination and his emotions properly.
🗣️ Mars in Gemini - A gemini speciality - king of debating!! Hyuck can and will debate anything, especially if bored or wanting to get his way… as we know lol
🌊 Trine between Venus and Uranus - Creative and experimental person, good with his hands and has very good fluidity of movement - I think this references his talent for dance and general creativity. Naturally talented with musical instruments too.
🫂 Going back to his sensitivity, this can be a very positive trait as it is also where he gets his empathy. Donghyuck’s empathy is something to be admired and he isn't given enough credit for it - he is actually very affected by seeing people hurt and feels a great deal of compassion for them, because he has the ability to feel others' feelings.
🎭 Virgo Midheaven - Virgos love to help people and to make things, I think Donghyuck would have always gone into a creative profession. He can struggle to express his feelings verbally but he will always express his gratitude to fans through his performances and devotion to his craft. Knowing his music makes people happy during hard times will also be very touching for him, and it truly makes the hard days worthwhile. 
👀 Virgo Midheaven also shows him to be a lover of the taboo and unexpected - if all his friends got tattoos, he wouldn’t. If no one in kpop had a tattoo, he would be the first to get one. He’s just naturally a contrarian because he enjoys thinking for himself and making his own rules lmao (probably why he cheats in games too).
🌟🦂 Midheaven in Virgo - 10th House cusp, Scorpio Rising/Ascendant - Intense but captivating personality, you can’t look away from Donghyuck. Again, keeps his insecurities and deep emotional thoughts to himself despite being a very honest person. He will always express his feelings rather than say them outright, and he censors what he does share with everyone. Craves privacy and control, might be why he hates showing his tummy/bare skin to fans - Hyuck has set a boundary here that no one is allowed to cross - though the Virgo aspect could also show it also stems from a place of self-consciousness and doesn't trust others not to compare his body with other idols.
👤✨ Pluto in Sagittarius - Hyuck understands his subconscious truth and has a sense of identity separate from the society. Modern and open-minded views. Pluto being in the 1st house is interesting though, it shows this huge intensity in his personality and I think this really fits him, he’s just all-in.
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Section 2: Mind & Emotions
♊️ Typical to Gemini nature Hyuck is restless and he has such a busy mind. This is supported by his Sun in 7th house too - the inside of his mind must be a very loud place, and all this energy inside him tends to spill out as hyperactivity.
☀️✨ Gemini Stellium - There is a sense of alienation Donghyuck feels often, both in life experiences and in personality. He feels judged for being honest, and his Gemini Sun in 7th House alludes that he gets along with many people but truly ‘clicks’ with few. This Gemini Sun in 7th House can become very negative if he is not surrounded by encouragement and stable relationships. It is heightened by his Gemini Sun-Venus conjunction in 11th house, opposite a Sagittarius Pluto-Chiron conjunction in 4th house which will make him place a huge amount of importance on whether he is socially accepted and loved. It gives him an edge of determination as an idol, to become ‘the best’, ‘the most loved’, BUT he will also have felt very depressed about himself at times and comments about his appearance as a kid will have really stuck with him. His self-esteem is actually quite low. These two aspects at the same time often manifest as someone thinking they are unloveable or ugly, and being afraid of emotional intimacy. ☹️
⚖️🙇🏻‍♂️ Neptune in Aquarius - this is a fixed sign so again Donghyuck is very fixed in his values although his mind and interests change often. He’s a rebel who can't make his mind up on a cause. Can sometimes feel a bit alien or like he has a hard time understanding others. These natives tend to be deep thinkers underneath their flashy exteriors and Donghyuck probably thinks a lot about the deeper stuff and issues he cannot find answers to. Might be why he finds religion grounding and helpful (will go into that in Identity). Again very stubborn in his ideas, but his mind will change so quickly (esp. with all his water signs) that he will suddenly lose interest in arguing his case!! ❤️‍🩹 Along with his Neptune in third House - Hyuck is also really sensitive to people around him, and really needs supportive friends and encouragement.
🌑⚔️ Leo Moon - Again a duality here where Hyuck is intensely self-critical, never thinking he has done enough or being satisfied with his performances, but is very prideful about his opinions and his singing and dancing talents. Moon in the 9th house can show insecurity about emotional intimacy and suggests Donghyuck copes with this by acting out his emotions. By making everything a big performance, he doesn't have to admit to his real vulnerabilities and fears. He also does this to avoid rejection, because as mentioned, he can feel misunderstood and judged.
🔮☁️ Leo Moon and Sagittarius Pluto Trine - Donghyuck’s intuition and gut feelings can be really strong when not clouded by fear, so much that he could even be psychic. Has a lot of psychic protection, maybe from his ancestors.
💢🔥 Gemini Mars - Makes Donghyuck especially fiery in anger - he can have a temper and I see him as the type to get really mad, and then get over it quickly because Geminis are so changeable lmao. However, the Gemini Sun and Mars conjunction can also show Hyuck can be consumed by his feelings - definitely the type to rant, to argue or yell into his pillow - definitely swears a lot off camera. If really provoked, Hyuck has the potential to say things in the heat of the moment which are cruel and cold; forgetting his humility. But due to his empathetic nature, Donghyuck will then feel terrible about it once he calms down. Combined with self-criticism/self-doubt, he is likely to suffer from anxiety without grounding and support from loved ones. For Hyuck Mars is in the 7th house which is interesting as Mars is in the natural house of Venus, its polar opposite. Donghyuck has an incredible ability to channel his anger/frustrations into creativity if he doesn't let himself wallow in it.
🌪️ Mercury in Cancer - A deep thinker with a lot of mental energy and a VERY good memory. The inside of his mind is very loud though lol. Like many water signs, Hyuck is emotionally changeable and can experience mood swings and overwhelming feelings which he moves on from just as quickly. In the eighth house it gives Hyuck a very busy mind, especially with the emotionality of Cancer so Hyuck likely has problems switching his mind off. People with this placement often have insomnia or vivid dreams.
🧠⚡️ Uranus in Third House - Really rapid thinker, genius ideas just come to Haechan and he notices patterns easily. This is probably what gives him that scheming edge whenever he plays a game. Needs intellectual stimulation all the time & will have a wide range of hobbies (with his Gemini stellium I think his hobbies probably change often too) and a short attention span. In a lot of ways having such a busy and varied job as an idol really suits him. Donghyuck also has a very restless mind and thinks a lot. Again, puts a lot of value on his own ideas and beliefs which he has gained through challenging rules and authority. Hyuck knows he is different from most people and it can heighten a sense of ‘not-belonging.’
☔️ Trine between Venus and Uranus - Must be encouraged to share his deeper thoughts and feelings - again this could be his issue with being emotionally intimate. Hyuck is the type to try to demonstrate how he is feeling without having to tell you.
🥊 Square between Jupiter and Uranus - Some restlessness and anxiety can occur with this placement. Donghyuck has a strong urge to break free of tradition and to be free of ordinary routine - in this sense I think being an idol is actually an excellent career for him, as long as he doesn’t beat himself up over mistakes. Also makes Donghyuck a natural thrill-seeker and risk-taker. People with this placement tend to have very modern and open-minded views and a bold sense of humour.
💡 Opposition between Jupiter and Ascendant/’Jupiter Setting’ - A slightly negative aspect - Hyuck can fail to really consider the opinions of others because he places a very high value on his own beliefs/ideas, which could cause friction in relationships. Seeing how much Haechan has grown up over the years though, learning to be quiet and letting others believe what they want - I think he has an awareness of this behaviour and is trying to grow from it. For the most part it is something people just grow out of with maturity and experience 🫶
🌑🩹 Lilith in Capricorn - Lilith is where we hide our taboo sides, our trauma, shame, insecurities and hidden desires from the world. I read Haechan as a perfectionist (Capricorn) who is unable to ever feel fully satisfied with his achievements and skills. He is an insane workaholic as we know, but he nevers feels he has done well enough. There is also a part of him which is cynical or a little icy, as a result of trauma and disappointments in his life. Can be afraid of showing his delicate emotional side to people (goes back to the ‘funny loud guy’ front he puts up.) At times (off camera, as Lilith is a hidden side) Haechan probably comes across as quite serious or detached. This placement also suggests a deep inner fear of loss and can stem from feelings of abandonment. It really hurts him when he is rejected, and his pretending not to care or to have quickly moved on is a defense mechanism. However, Hyuck has an extraordinary stamina and resilience when it comes to times of hardship and conflict.
🖤🔒 Eighth house in Gemini - His privacy is something that bothers him. He wrestles with himself over what fans should and shouldn't know about him/his life. As an idol he likely also feels he cant fully be who he is inside, so there is a conscious mask - he loves to push boundaries but is afraid to push too far, so he moderates what he shows of himself even around the members. There are things even they don't know about him.  Along with his Scorpio Ascendant, Donghyuck feels a need to control what people see of him. A good example is his ‘customer service’/on-camera voice, which is a purposeful decision as he knows fans like Haechan to be cute. However it is also so that he can keep some of himself private and put a boundary between Haechan and Donghyuck.
🌀Twelfth house in Scorpio - Donghyuck is too good at burying his feelings and his secrets, which is unfortunate because then he has to carry the burden of them by himself. Donghyuck hates to talk about the low points of his past, his insecurities, fears and failures and this means he works through his issues in private, not wanting anyone to know. This can mean he suffers in silence, and that he needs to learn to process his feelings and let others in. This house can indicate someone who is almost unaware of their own psychological suffering or resists being vulnerable. I don't want to say I am worried about him - there is much positivity in his chart too, but I’m glad he has a supportive circle around him in NCT and I hope his family are the same.
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Section 3: Identity & Appearance
👑 Gemini is associated with Mercury, the androgynous planet, so having a Gemini Sun and Venus will mean Hyuck doesn’t feel the need to play into masculinity the way some male idols do - he is happy being seen as cute, having long hair and doesn’t look for validation in his masculinity the way a lot of men do. King shit!!
❓ With a Gemini Sun in 7th House, Donghyuck really struggles to find a sense of identity separate from what he is to others - his self-worth and identity is dependent on how others see him, quite likely because becoming an idol at such a young age has really restricted his social development and sense of personal identity. They say becoming famous as a kid is a type of trauma and so I imagine he is stuck - stunted - with his understanding of himself, and therefore most of what he knows about himself is related to how others see him. 
💫✨ Gemini Sun and Aquarius Uranus Trine - Hyuck is naturally very intuitive and in tune with the universe. In turn this makes him empathetic and able to really feel others' pain. This also means he probably dreams very vividly and has strong gut feelings. Because of this, he may be drawn to find answers to the unexplainable through religion or spirituality. This trine also shows an absolute hatred for routine - no matter how his life played out, Hyuck would need a varied and busy job. 
👣 Square between Aquarius Uranus &  Scorpio Ascendant - Haechan is the epitome of a self-made person, but I think he is conscious that he did not have a normal upbringing and this placement brings up the lack of self-identity and experiences that other people his age have.
🎙️ Uranus in Third House - Usually these natives have a distinctive voice - for Haechan and his angelic vocals this is absolutely true. Also a really expressive communicator.
🪐 Jupiter in Taurus - makes him broad-shouldered and attractive. Again shows an innate respect for religion/spirituality - interesting bc as we know he seems to be exploring his faith with Mark’s help. A Jupiter in Taurus native also has a tendency to indulge in his pleasures, but with his financial prosperity this shouldn't be an issue. Hyuck is sensible enough to know when to reign it in. 
🔮 Cancer Mercury in Eighth House - Donghyuck feels there must be a greater purpose to everything, and has a great hunger to learn the complexities of life and things we cannot understand through religion or the supernatural. This tracks well because I know he has been seen praying before concerts and Mark bought him a bible - so I guess faith is something they talk about.
⚔️ Opposition between Mercury and Lilith - Quite a hard placement, finds it hard to understand himself and there is a continuing theme of an inner conflict.
🎯 Mars & Uranus Trine means natural charisma is attractive and feels exhilarating to others - he’s bold and exciting and outrageous. It adds to his natural  competitiveness. 
🏴‍☠️  Aquarius Uranus in 3rd house - Hyuck has a rebellious streak and a dislike for authority and strictness. This tells us the way Donghyuck sees the world - he sees social norms as boring and is distrustful of authority figures. He is absolutely the type to HATE rich assholes & chaebols who act as if they are better than others. 
⚔️📝 Square between Saturn and Uranus - Describes some inner tension or unrest which gives a huge amount of creative energy and boldness. Combined with his other placements, I think this speaks of the conflict between Donghyuck and Haechan. Donghyuck is not a confident person and is actually pretty unsure of himself, so being Haechan on camera/stage allows him to become everything he is afraid he lacks - the unrest inside him creates a huge amount of creativity and boldness through his Haechan persona.
💸 Moon Sextile Venus - This placement attracts popularity, comfort and wealth. Can be a little over-indulgent in things he enjoys and likes to spend money.
Also such a cute placement, basically meaning Hyuck is naturally a very lovable, soft and endearing nature. People naturally want to take care of him. But, people with this placement are usually so good at being adorable that they can simply rely on this to get their way, so has a tendency to manipulate others with his cuteness.
💅 Venus in the 7th house also means Hyuck is naturally attractive and charming without needing to try. Along with his Venus & Mars Conjunction, Hyuck has what is referred to as a magnetic appeal. People are just drawn to him, and he would be a fascinating and attractive person in any career. Masculine Mars & feminine Venus conjunction is also interesting, I choose to see it as a balance of these energies within himself. Hyuck is confident in his masculinity!!
😷 Square between Jupiter and Uranus - this is a slightly negative placement. I think Haechan feels confined and very conscious of the ways he has to moderate himself/hide his real self. If Haechan wasn’t an idol I think he would live an unusual lifestyle in some way and not pay much attention to social norms. However, we know what other people think really matters to him, so I believe this adds to this feeling of 'I can't show this side of me to the public'.
🩶 Chiron in Sagittarius 1st House in Retrograde - Suggests there is a disconnect with who Haechan is at his core and how he fits into the world. Again goes with this theme of a lack of self-identity or knowing things about himself and life for certain. I have this too and the best way I can describe it is just feeling… lost. It is hard to commit to decisions, and deep down it can be because you don't think you deserve success or the things you want most in life. It can be a fear of losing purpose once you actually have what you have worked for. This is part of his life path to overcome, and it will get easier for him.
🌟 Venus is a powerful planet in Donghyuck’s chart so it suggests he is in control of his actions (even if he cannot control his feelings). This is really positive and attracts wealth, respect and fame. A really good placement for a famous person.
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Section 4: Health
Venus in 7th House - Vulnerable to back problems. 💢
People with Saturn in 6th House tend to be obsessive workaholics. However, they have a tendency to be overworked for long periods which is good for nobody’s health and likely adds to the emotional exhaustion mentioned in Donghyuck's other placements. Health issues can occur due to stress (which would mean high blood pressure, fainting, heart problems etc.)
Sixth house in Taurus speaks of physical exertion - it is suggesting Donghyuck is overdoing himself physically and changes will have to come in the future as it will continue to impact his health.
Honestly I don't think Hyuck has a predisposition to heart issues, I think his illness occurred because he is so overworked and hasn’t treated himself with a lot of compassion 🙁 The good news is he seems to be doing better now, and this kindness for himself will grow with age. I will touch on this later but he will go through a huge emotional transformation in the next couple of years + will really come into his own. 🤍
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hotdogdynamitezzz · 1 year
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🦇 𝖂𝖊𝖉𝖓𝖊𝖘𝖉𝖆𝖞 𝕬𝖉𝖉𝖆𝖒𝖘 𝕭𝖎𝖗𝖙𝖍 𝕮𝖍𝖆𝖗𝖙 🦇
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Note: This is my own personal interpretation of what her birth chart looks like and how it represents Wednesday. The only confirmed section is the year and date, excluding the month and time. It's all for fun. Let me know your thoughts 🖤
Confirmed Birth Date: Friday the 13th in Vermont. Year of birth is 2006 as Wednesday is 16 in the series.
Wednesday's DOB used: October 13th, 2006 in Vermont, USA.
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Her Chart ~ Rising in Scorpio, Sun in Libra, Moon in Cancer, Mercury in Scorpio, Venus in Libra, Mars in Libra.
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Why I chose her as a Scorpio Rising:
Even though Wednesday sees the world through black and white, her strong moral values for right and wrong are defined by her Libra 11th house stellium that prioritizes objectivity, fairness & equity.
Even though Scorpio is an intense rising sign, and Wednesday is seemingly detached. She's actually quite an intense individual in the series when she protects her friends and her bond to her childhood scorpion in the past. You can also see her passionate determination to solve the mystery behind who the hyde and the hydes master are.
She just doesn't act on her emotions or overthink her feelings as I believe her cancer moon in the 8th house would conceal and hide her emotional nature as this house rules over what we conceal and keep secret as well as our fears. So, she's presented as having an "empty" heart, which isn't true, but I will explain more about this when I debrief my thoughts on her potential moon placement.
Because Scorpio is associated with death & and the void, this rising sign lends a cold demeanor to her personality that appears monotonous, but she does show her sudden bursts in her temper. Wednesday's actions show she cares more than she lets on as she's always looking out for eugene.
Wednesday is not fully detached as she gets in her head a lot and is shown to care deeply about Enid and crush on Tyler once she finds the courage to trust them enough. However, Wednesday is always polarized between who actually has her best interests in mind, and her perspective on the world remains suspicious and wounded. So she prefers loneliness and staying in the shadows to protect herself while also investigating those she deems as harmful to get an upper hand.
There is an obvious power dynamic present between herself and others that is common amongst scorpio risings. This power dynamic is people thinking that she's either better than everyone else or too odd to fit in, which is all just a misunderstanding. She has Pluto in the 1st House with this chart, and Pluto does show where we tend to be the black sheep and blamed yet at the same time are perceived as threats or having a hidden power others want to exploit or take. This fits with Wednesday's identity being heavily misunderstood by the school and Ms. Thornhill wants to use her as a sacrifice to resurrect Joseph Crackstone.
As a result of Wednesdays misunderstood intentions and intense personality, she ends up a bit ostracized at her school because she can't trust anyone. However, once she learns eugene and enid have her back, she stays very loyal to them. I believe all Scorpio risings just need to find their people in order to understand and show love to the world as it's often something they are left without.
Her appearance reflects that of a Scorpio rising in which she embraces the dark and macabre side of scorpio and their love for older clothing that reflects the past. Wednesday looks like a put-together ghoul, imo and seeing as how Scorpio rules over death, her appearance just fits that. I also see her smudged eyeliner and bangs, a fitting Scorpio look as many with this rising sign prefer bangs to conceal their forehead and add a layer of mystery.
Her Libra Stellium in the 11th House:
Main focus on Detachment, Selfishness, Objectiveness, Vengeance, Injustice is present in Wednesday's values. She has absolutely no desire for money, fame, status, or anything that would benefit her. Instead, her sole focus Is justice for others, specifically those who are innocently killed by the hyde.
Wednesday has her Sun, Venus & Mars in the 11th house which contributes not only to her life theme of bringing justice to a community and group of people, but also her motivation in life to fight for justice seen with her Sun - Mars conjunction.
This is the hero aspect to me, and Wednesday very well is the community's hero. I think it's important to note how she is written.off as self-absorbed and narcissistic by Xavier during their conflict. People assume Wednesday only thinks about herself, and for a period in time, SHE WAS only thinking about herself and her plan to capture the killer.
Wednesday's disregard and inability to see value in emotions reflects her Sun - Venus conjunction in the 11th house because while it's in Libra, this aspect is solely focused on prioritizing her values and ego. In the 11th house, this can translate to actually disregarding her personal feelings and only seeing importance in community and social matters, especially in Libra.
This is an objective sign that works with fairness meaning she can be very vindictive with no remorse because that is what's morally right in her opinion even if she takes it too far like we saw with Tyler trapped in the chair. 11th house & Aquarian people underdeveloped are known to take things too far just because they are so goal oriented that they tend to disregard the personal feelings of others as it's seen as a barrier to progression. I think this explains why she's only focused on her investigation and views her feelings as weak. Because her feelings could also be a part of her fears, which I will explain next.
Her Cancer Moon in the 8th House
Moon in Cancer was unexpected for many, but it makes a lot of sense the more I thought about it. The moon rules over intuition and subconscious, which is domicile in Cancer, meaning her intuition comes naturally to her. Even without visions, she had strong intuition, being naturally aware and suspicious of those around her. She wasn't your typical friendly cancer moon, but then again, her family isn't typical, so we have to focus on the signs qualities more so than stereotypes when analyzing her chart.
Wednesday was very reserved and internalized her feelings without realizing it. This is very cancerian behavior as they prefer to stay in their comfort zone, which in this case is by herself surrounded by darkness and gore, which her family and specifically her mother fostered.
Another point to acknowledge is how Wednesday has quite a supportive family. They got her out of boatloads of trouble and were there for her more than most other families. In fact, they were quite a clingy family that was close-knit and coddled Wednesday, to which she revolted against.
Considering the Moon rules over our behavior, what's genetically passed down through our mother & our maternal figure, we can see Wednesday is a lot like her mom as the moons' qualities are amplified in Cancer. Wednesday has her psychic visions passed down by Goody & Morticia.
The moon also shows our mom and the 8th house rules over what will withstand throughout time, the legends of individuals, and what will reoccur through generations in our bloodline. I believe this shows clearly with Wednesday's mom Morticia Addams' famous legacy at Nevermore Academy. Wednesday is set to repeat the same history as Goody and kill Joseph Crackstone as well as making a name for herself at Nevermore Academy like Morticia that will withstand time.
Moving onto Wednesday's emotional nature, for a water sign and house moon, you may expect an overly emotional individual, but it can actually create the opposite effect. A lot of the time, those that are water dominant have a clear control over how to express and use their emotions.
This means they can often end up expressing themselves as cold or detached as they don't lose control over their emotions easily. Instead, they control their emotions based on what they can use it for to benefit themselves and others. It's usually those that lack water in their chart that are overly emotional as a fun fact. In Wednesday's case, being both water & air dominant, there's a clear conflict between prioritizing her head or heart.
However, Wednesday chooses to guard her heart as this serves her the best and instead uses her high intelligence to manipulate others for answers. The 8th house rules over our fears and what we keep secret. The moon in Cancer here means she honestly did not want anyone at Nevermore knowing about her family, Wednesday is seen trying to remove her reputation from her mom and hide her family identity.
Another big fear of Wednesdays was trusting others. She had been so used to being stabbed in the back and people hurting her loved ones that it wasn't death that scared her. She actually loved gore. It was instead love and intimacy that she was afraid of expressing and experiencing. As the 8th house deals with deep, intimate bonds, Wednesday feared deep emotional connections throughout the series and purposely put others at a distance and self-sabotaged connections. Wednesday's fear of trust ultimately almoat put her in the grave, but she learmed a big lesson through enid, xavier & eugene on how to truly bond and trust their loyalty.
I'd say Enid helped her the most in this area as her polar opposite because Enid was the light Wednesday needed to nurture her hidden feelings that were comfiest, staying in the dark and alone. Enid brought Wednesday out of hiding and shined light by embracing it. This dynamic definitely resulted in some conflict between the two but ultimately an irreplaceable bond as Enid sought to help Wednesday understand her own emotional needs and to be able to recognize and percieve others intentions which is what cancer moons in any water house are the best at when they've matured.
This placement also indicates massive family secrets and could point towards Gomez Addams' false murder accusations and her mom instead thinking she murdered Garrett Gates when really he was poisoned.
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Scorpio Mercury in the 12th House:
Her blunt and sharp edge, she is known for her intelligence and quick wit plus dark humor. She's more focused on strategy, vengeance, and solving challenges that come her way, not chatting up people. Scorpio does rule death, and I hate to say it, but most Scorpio Mercury natives tend to have a dead expression almost? They just sound very sarcastic 24/7 and sometimes monotonous unknowingly as this sign rules over paradoxes.
So naturally, they communicate in a paradoxical way that can be confusing despite their sharp straightforwardness due to mars traditional rulership. Wednesday's trademark humor is definitely seen here, as well as her perception that everyone has secrets, even those we don't suspect. She receives knowledge from higher realms and isolated or foreign places she touches, which can be attributed to the 12th House.
She often finds out secrets by chance, and her goal is to investigate. Wednesday is so secretive I think her Mercury placement here makes perfect sense, especially because she's always overthinking because of her second-guessing which is common for Scorpios as they struggle with knowing who to trust with their information just like how she struggled to trust tyler and xavier.
I'd also say that because this house rules over hidden enemies and Mercury & Jupiter is placed here, we can see how her neighborhood crush and someone who's highly educated and has authority would be her hidden enemy.
Jupiter in Scorpio 12th House:
This shows an abundance of spiritual knowledge & protection from the higher realm being Goody Addams. Jupiter is also very karmic and can show where you have the most success or fortune in which would be spiritual matters, foreign places & anything having to do with magic.
It's actually the best placement she could have for Nevermore as it literally points towards success over hidden enemies. As well as expansion towards what is invisible without a physical body. This means her dreams and visions as well as others' emotions she'd have a level of influence over. This is why Wednesday is seen as such a threat to Bianca imo.
Saturn in Leo 22° 9th House:
I mean, the 22nd degree is known as the kill or be killed degree, but also the fall from grace and rise back up degree. It's also in Leo the shining star in the 9th house that rules over religious and higher educational institutions, which Nevermore would fit into as a school full of magical people learning advanced topics for their powers.
Saturn is about delays, limitations, completing past life lessons, and discipline. Nevermore showed Wednesday that she may actually have gotten herself into some trouble and overestimated herself. Saturn here presents the lesson of Wednesday expressing her heart and this being delayed. Her lesson was to learn how to trust, which almost killed her because she trusted Tyler first. But then someone with leo qualities would be more fit to actually show Wednesday loyalty and love.
I'd say Wednesday's biggest setback was her disregard for her own and others' feelings, but this changed at Nevermore. Another interesting pattern with Saturn here can show where we build ourselves up and keep respect. Wednesday saved Nevermore, so obviously, she was highly respected but also went through many obstacles at her institution with her authority figure the principle Larissa Weems.
Although Larissa wanted the best for Wednesday, she viewed Larissa as a setback and someone who got in her way. Wednesday also struggles with authority figures as a common theme because she values her independence, which can show up as a common 9th house saturn theme and the battle against those who teach you life lessons. To say the least, Wednesday would struggle to listen to others' ideas, beliefs & morals until she matured because she just views hers as better and others as too restrictive and boring. Rules are not for Wednesday lol
Saturn also opposites Neptune in the 3rd House, which means there's a theme of common knowledge being hidden from the authorities and a lot of secret messages made to deceive the school and principle. The neighborhood conflict between Jericho and Nevermore can be seen here because Jericho holds more mystery and secrets than they let on in the neighborhood history, literally being a lie as they praise Joseph Crackstone.
On the other hand, Nevermore feels trapped by Jericho and unfairly treated. Saturn being a cold planet means Nevermore feels isolated from their neighborhood Jericho that is put on a literal pedestal built off of lies.
North Node in Pisces 4th house
Wednesday's life path is to create familial bonds and become closer to her family. This also has to do with searching family history and speaking to ancestors through her psychic abilities. Because her NN is in Pisces in the 4th House, this means she's supposed to nurture and grow her psychic abilities as the 4th House is how we foster and nurture while Pisces theme are unconscious psychic sense and higher emotional comprehension. The 4th House is the root of our being.
Therefore, it is in Wednesday to master her psychic abilities and further develop her emotional understanding. However, she has a hard time understanding herself. She's simply more comfortable with her SN in the 10th house Virgo, where she has an intelligent reputation and work from evidence and facts. She prefers to solve problems rather than work on emotional comprehension.
Pisces 4th House & Houseruler in 3rd (Neptune):
I can see this with Wednesday's struggle to emotionally understand or become attached to others. She may have often felt manipulated by her own family and dissociated a lot at home. The 4th House is our upbringing and emotional roots, how our emotions were nurtured. I can definitely see how Pisces here would make her feel insecure by her family but also protective over them as they're her greatest power and healers.
But at the same time, she felt like living in their shadow with past wounds that were brought up later by her father's accused murder. A theme seen from the I.C. ruler in the 3rd House where dirty rumors about her family were spread to the entire neighborhood.
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Astrological Analysis of my new Relationship
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Ok, so to the left is my natal chart, and to the right is the natal chart of the new guy I've been seeing. We met about six years ago at a bathhouse, and lost contact. We reunited this past September, and the ball got rolling.
We had really great sex, and we have a lot in common. We enjoy each other's company. Oddly, he reminds me of my friend who just committed suicide a few months ago. It's like the universe is still providing that energy for me now that my friend Brad is gone.
I'll call new guy Mr. Mouse. One of my nicknames for him is Millionaire Mouse, cuz he's a millionaire and he reminds me of a mouse lol. He's very kind and sweet, not pushy at all. Sometimes too sweet. But after what I've been through, that's not so bad.
Immediately while looking at his chart, it's interesting. It has a lot going on. It looks like a diamond. And all that checks out, cuz his life is anything but boring. I told him my chart is the shell, and his chart is the pearl that fits inside.
I'm still not over 8th house sun, but I'm not holding my breath for him any longer. We still talk occasionally, I still love him, but it looks like he is gonna have to take the back burner.
I really hesitated doing my synastry chart with Mr. Mouse, because I didn't want him to have more key aspects than 8th House Man. Part of me still believes I will end up with him, and I didn't want to entertain the idea of anyone else replacing him or having more key aspects than he has. 8th house has one key aspect, as does Mr. Mouse. Unfortunately, the key aspect for 8 isn't exactly a positive one, but Mouse's is. So both men who I have been torn between only have one key aspect in our synastry.
I'm not sure how to interpret this, because other partner's I've had have had more keys, but then again, my relationships with them didn't last anyway. It's possible these relationships won't last either. anyways.
The most interesting thing about Mr Mouse's chart is his 12th house moon. My sun is in the 12th house, as is my dad's. 12th house rules monestaries, and he grew up in a small town that is known for its catholic monestary. It makes sense I would end up there, living with him. I think it will be a very healthy change of pace for me. The city has gotten so toxic and overwhelming.
Another interesting thing is that he has Sun trine Moon natally. My dad has that aspect, my best friend patrick, and most of my ex boyfriends have had that placement for some reason. My sun sextiles my moon and my little sister has the same placement. It's said to make one really agreeable, balanced, and well liked.
Our north nodes are both in libra, and we both have a life path of 7. I used to be extremely ambitious, like capitalist, enterprising, all that stuff. So is he. He built his own company and is a CEO and 'an important person'. I had met rich people before, but dating him has exposed me to mega rich people.... It's been an experience.
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To the left is our synastry chart, and to the right is our composite. For those who don't know, synastry is how our charts blend together, the composite chart is the chart for the relationship itself.
It appears his sun lands in my 6th house, which makes sense, cuz he's helping me heal and get solid ground. My sun touches his 9th house, which I guess adds up, cuz I feel like I'm expanding him intelectually. My moon in his 11th house makes total sense, bc of my 11th house stellium, and the fact that I speak french and mandarin is very fascinating and beneficial for him.
As for the composite, our sun is in aries.
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this adds up. we've traveled a lot, and our relationship has been pretty fun so far. Oddly, our composite sun is in the 8th house, which is the natal sun of the guy I fell in love with this summer. so it seems the universe is saying something.
I'm definitely getting into my more spiritual, psychic, intuitive side. I saw both men in a dream, before I even met them. I talk in a post about the dream about 8th house man, but after all that bullshxt went down and I was so depressed in july, I had a premonition dream that saw Mr. Mouse.
In the dream, which felt like I was watching a movie in the theaters, was me walking around a very wealthy, well decorated home. I was in a room with no walls, and I was older, and a priest. I thought the dream was telling me that I would be old and wealthy, but then the priest part didn't make any sense. Why would I become a priest? Turns out Mr. Mouse went to seminary to be a catholic priest, and the house I saw was his mother's. The second floor doesn't have windows.
So I've seen both men in a dream. That doesn't help me too much with making a decision. Haha.
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These are some of our synastry aspects. The key aspect is positive, and helped me gain clarity on why exactly we are together. We have an age gap, and I hate the way people look at us in public. But I'm also in love with summer boy and hoping he'll come around.
The sexual magnetism is very true. We have so much sex and we don't seem to grow tired of it, yet at least lol.
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murdoc astrological analysis
one day i decided to enter murdoc's birth data to see if his chart would be accurate. to my surprise everything shown fit him like a glove.
here is his chart:
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there is the sun's square within minutes to the uranus-pluto conjunction in the 10th house which sticks out immediately. first of all, it should be noted that the sun square pluto aspect, especially with pluto in the 10th house which typically represents the father on the parental axis, is a strong signature of issues with the father, especially one that is disempowering in some way. this aspect rules the 1st, 4th and 10th houses, so it impacts the way he presents himself, his home life and his career. chiron is conjunct saturn in the 4th house which indicates a wound related to authority in the home life, most likely the father, and black moon lilith is in the 4th house as well which indicates some kind of uncertainty about the mother or home life or a mother who was absent in some way, which the most extreme manifestation of would be maternal abandonment.
one thing of note is that his chart is completely fire void. with elemental voids the person is lacking the quality of that element but often times there is some kind of extreme overcompensation for it. with fire, he has a lack of self confidence that he overcompensates for in an extreme way. his mc is in leo though, so he maintains a public image of self confidence and egoism. neptune is in the 1st house, and being 10 degrees away from the ascendant it could be viewed as in a wide conjunction, and this indicates deception in the way of self-presentation. being unaspected it's an unconscious but strong influence, and it rules the 5th house, so there is deception in self-presentation in the realm of creativity (includes artistic expression and sex/sexual identity). neptune in the 1st house not only indicates deception to others but also self-deception. his moon is in capricorn which indicates ambition and a need to be some kind of authority, although being in an earth sign it is a more slow and steady, saturnian kind of ambition rather than passionate and fiery.
with the ascendant in self-protective scorpio and the moon in emotionally guarded capricorn, this is the chart of someone who is guarded and secretive. the moon is in the 3rd house of communication and thinking and there is a stellium including the sun and mercury at home in loquacious and heady gemini, so this is clearly someone who is sociable and/or has a lot of scattered mental energy. but mercury which is the disposer of that gemini stellium forms an exact square with saturn. this aspect can indicate someone who is careful about how they communicate and what they reveal to others, or someone who often kicks themselves after conversations because they said something they regretted, revealed too much. mercury also forms a quincunx to the moon, which indicates a compartmentalization of feeling and communication; lack of communication of emotional states. and then you have the north node in the 7th house in taurus which means this person's soul mission is to learn to trust other people in relationships. basically, talk about your feelings, goddammit!!!
sun square uranus/pluto along with father issues also indicates someone who is very independent, possibly pathologically. this is someone who does what they want without regards for what others will think and doesn't like to submit to the will of anyone or anything else. since the uranus/pluto conjunction is in the 10th house this is most evident in the career realm, with a propensity for power (pluto) and innovation (uranus). the moon is out of bounds which indicates an inclination for breaking off from society in some way. clearly this is not someone who is by-the-book or colors within the lines, although this type of person would be quite difficult for others to deal with. mars is unaspected in the 7th house, so there is a strong need for constant action and aggression that manifests in the realm of relationships, but since it is unconscious the person feels that it is never really fulfilled despite being obvious to others. it rules the 6th house of work and cooperation. and going back to that north node in the 7th in taurus, all of this indicates someone who needs to learn to cooperate with others.
as there is a lot of information in a horoscope this does not cover everything, but it is the parts that stuck out to me the most. i might do a follow-up on the other members or even transits and progressions. i think it is fascinating how this works for a fictional character. it makes me wonder what the mechanisms behind astrology really are.
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Yeas babe about the stellium post...
People always think that you're a solid person you know what to do, you're determined and have strong boundaries but in fact on the inside you feel just like a misfit who's struggling between two personalities always from one extreme to another... You always have self-dubious tendencies but at the same time you're actually know yourself better than anyone does... And like your idea is I guess really a fact that all your life feels like focused on just a specific area for me it's the 10th house... And everything both the bliss and the curse occurs in 10th house themes. So much empty houses and sincerely you be feeling like "why can't I share the same preferences and interests with others?! Why does it have to feel like I'm in a tunnel vision like all the time??". Nevertheless, I love this edginess and polarity🖤🖤🖤
My sweetheart knows everything about me 🖤🖤🖤 Yes, I always feel like I'm juggling two personas, and I'm always having an identity crisis, but I also believe that only I understand myself better than anybody else, regardless of how excellent others are at reading other individuals. Furthermore, while it is true that you should not overidentify yourself with your natal chart, the fact is that many individuals study and utilize their natal chart superficially. The idea is that many individuals do not live their houses to their full potential. The signs are very simple to understand and to relate, but houses are far more convoluted. In the sense that you are born to master the houses in which your planets reside, it is not as natural as having the characteristics of a sign. This is why empty houses aren't an issue because you already know how to navigate them, but occupied houses are challenging to use in your favor. This is why people with a stellium in a house have such internal struggles; they understand better than others that they must put in a lot of effort to master and use the themes to their advantage; if you're not willing to work through it, you'll feel like you're drowning and being overpowered by the house themes and events. This sense of isolation and lack of connection with people can be bothersome at times, but at the end of the day, I'm used to obsessively caring about only a few topics in my life, which can be exhausting at times.
About 10th house stellium:
A stellium in the 10th house frequently signifies a strong desire and purpose for professional accomplishment. Individuals that are extremely driven to attain their objectives, earn recognition, and make a big influence in their chosen industry may be highly motivated. A stellium in the 10th house indicates a natural drive for leadership roles and the urge to exercise power or influence in one's work. These people may have excellent leadership characteristics and succeed in managerial situations. The 10th house stellium indicates that the individual values their public image and reputation. They may be worried about how others see them and try hard to establish a beneficial reputation. This stellium can imply a variety of abilities and skills depending on the planets involved. Individuals with various interests or who excel in several areas may be more versatile in their professional options. A stellium in the tenth house might represent a great desire for achievement and recognition. These people are frequently extremely driven, concentrated, and eager to put in the required work to attain their objectives. While a 10th house stellium might bring tremendous prosperity, it can also bring obstacles. As their employment targets might absorb a significant amount of their time and energy, the individual may be motivated to perpetually prove themselves and may struggle with work-life balance.
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ah yes my presence has been requested but like…… do u wanna know sexually, romatically or just in general???? jaehyun is…. smthin else LOL like he gives me idgaf vibes but also gives me like ultimate form of romance vibes….. maybe its bc hes an aqua sun but has a taurus moon and pisces rising…. but he also has an aqua venus so likely he would make u chase him lol. def the type to pretend he isnt THAT interested and in all realness probably thinks that open affection and trusting others doesnt seem that safe…. like on one hand hes rly a romantic guy but can also be detached and/or unpredictable!! he has a leo lillith which is insane to me and tells me alot abt him actually, very provocative and visually and sexually appealing (as we all know LOL what a man) hes an aqua stellium which literally just means Emotionally Stunted and Hates Everyone and hes actually rly introverted and easily annoyed by ppl, does not like talking abt how hes feeling (wow an aquarius not liking their own feelings??? shocker) his taurus moon and pisces rising combo r what make him a romantic, w his taurus moon in the second house he tends to only rly entertain/make the first move in a relationship only if hes sure the other party likes him first lol. hes actually very dependant on positive feedback and often looks for admiration but hes also very capable and loyal which is so sweet :,) on the neg side tho w his moon square venus his emotional and romantic needs can actually cause tensions,, and he may not know what he wants. bc of his auqa venus he can come off as stand-offish, is threatened by restrictions of any kind, and will also need his own space. unfortunately, (this is NOT a reflection of him at all, just an observation of this placement in his chart.) he could have affairs, as it is hard for him to define his own boundaries and can get hurt in love very easily. marraige may not be for him, tbh. long distance relationships may seem more attainable or desirable to him tho!! v uncomfortable w grand shows of emotions. hes honestly very open-minded and sees the world the way he wants,, n both his appearances and mannerisms make him quite intriguing to others. (bc of his pisces rising!! honestly not surprised that hes a pisces rising bc he has a v piscean/water sign face/look) sexually hes actually rly more likely to be more into unconventional things, i think. in sex i dont THINK he has a chance of being submissive, if at all. he’s dominant for sure, but not in the way johnny or yuta are. jaehyun idealizes sexuality and love, but hes actually rly rly passionate. i def think hes into your basic rougher kinks: choking, biting, scratching, etc. probably enjoys a bit of slapping, maybe degradation too. could probably into pet play. (puppy moreso than kitten, imo) following on that, probably is elated to let other nct members see you like that. would probably have you sit at his feet in lingerie w your tail and ears, a pretty collar and leash attached to your neck while he has company. it brings out that obsessive need for him to control, and absolutely drives him nuts (especially knowing in the back of his mind that you love and trust him so much that you would let yourself be put in this situation in the first place and enjoy it just as much as he does). i dont think he would ever share, tho, or let anyone watch him fuck you. he seems more like someone who would enjoy sir and master more than daddy when it comes to titles. wants to hear you vocalize everything. affirmations, answering his questions, dissatisfactions, everything. i dont think he’s loud. probably more likely to grunt and growl, and maybe youll get a deep, languide moan when he cums. i do think he’s into somnophilia, the idea of you giving him that level of control, letting him use you like a fleshlight probably rly, rly gets him going. a TEASE. im not a jae bias, but thinking abt him pressing you into the matress w his hand on the back of ur neck and just lowley telling u how bad he wants you, teasing abt how needy u are for his dick. (continuing in another ask lol rip)-🪐
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is probably into non-con and honestly, more likely to be into dubcon as hes probably a horny ass bitch. could be into period sex, knife play, and asphyxiation play. would absolutely be the typa man to push your face into his pelvis while you suck him off and plug your nose. thrives off the choking noises you make and the whimper you let out when you pull off his dick and he gives u a lil slap on the face. i feel like jae is on another level when it omes to being freaky, you just have to drag it out of him. theres alot of layers to this man and honestly if you want a relationship w him be prepared to put in WORK lol bc (based on his chart, ffs dont attack me for saying this) any type of insecurities where you get jealous/defensive will probably make him vanish into thin air. will probably let problems sit and rot before confronting them. will be more likely to walk out than to fix things unless hes like RLY in love with you. like i said, be prepared to put in work lol. jaehyun is an enigma but he has such potential to be an incredible partner, lover, and best friend. (also this is the first time im ~actually~ looking at his chart lol dont @ me if some things r wrong or off!!!)
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Amanda Young: 
She searches for balance in her life but rarely finds it, often swinging between extremes. She’s spent most of her life trying to hide herself. She’s perennially terrible at it, but she still tries. More likely to be stubborn or overly critical than out right aggressive or snide. She loves to root for the underdog but has trouble believing in her own abilities. Her sense of justice is likely wildly skewed but she still seeks it out. People rarely take notice of her in daily life, and she can feel ignored because of it. She’s more fun and dynamic than she seems on the surface a lot of the time. That’s only because she can be very picky on who she opens up to. She tries to intellectualize her emotions but has a hard time with it, as if the separate parts of her refuse to work together. She’s a quick study, her intelligence can’t be oversold here, but it compounds her sensitivity to the opinions of others in a way that can become very confusing. Being comfortable is more important than anything else to her, however she’s far more likely to leave her comfort zone for other people than for herself. Enjoys putting her all into something, even if she frequently feels like it isn’t enough. 
She’s cautious in love, though when she settles on someone she can romanticize and idealize her partner and the relationship itself. She needs someone she can trust completely. She berates herself internally for not being better, so she’d likely take even small criticisms harshly. She can actually be a very fun person to be around! She’s very playful once she lets her guard down and likes indulging in every pleasurable and romantic. Incredibly loyal, almost to a harsh detriment. She spends a lot of emotional energy on deciding on someone, so it's hard for her to let go once she’s decided. It might take her a while to get used to having another person in her space. Doesn’t like feeling jealous or having her efforts go unnoticed. She may not be perfect, but she’s incredibly loving and dedicated.
Main Placements: Libra Sun in 4th House, Leo Moon in 3rd, Cancer Rising, Scorpio Venus 5th House, Virgo Mars in 4th House, Scorpio Jupiter in 5th House, Taurus Saturn in 11th House (retrograde), 4th House Stellium, Virgo Lilith, Pisces North Node 
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In a word, observant. Between his natural curiosity and constant self monitoring he tends to notice the small things that people do. He knows how he comes off to people, and he uses it to his advantage. He has the remarkable ability to work through almost anything. He’s got a lot of pain under the surface, and it’s under the surface because he takes such care to not show it to anyone. He feels like one big contradiction, keeping things professional and at arms length despite being so keenly interested in the deeper meaning of things. He’s not naturally aggressive, but can absolutely be cold or harsh. Very protective of people he cares about, almost to the point of annoyance. He absolutely hates it when other people underestimate or undersell his intelligence, though he would never be the kind of person to come right out and say it. He doesn’t like change but desperately needs it in his life. The best thing for him would be to learn to be less rigid and more introspective. After all, he’s not how he is because he wants to be, he’s like this because he has to be. 
A bit shy romantically. He’s not used to being able to express himself authentically in romantic situations, and it really shows. Despite that, he does love deeply. Surprisingly tender and caring. If he’s serious about someone then they’re going to get a whole side of him that almost no one else has gotten. He’s loving but he does need his space. His emotions are very tangled due to him neglecting them. Sentimentality runs deep with him, and is unlikely to throw something out if it has tender feelings connected to it. He doesn’t have time for people who are always down on themselves, as it goes against his own nature too strongly. He may also simultaneously find himself attracted to and looking down on people he considers strange. Maybe it’s because he loves control too much and finds them more chaotic than he can handle. Even if it takes a while for him to open up, it’s more than worth it.
Main Placements: Leo Sun in 7th/8th House, Scorpio Moon in 10th, Capricorn Rising, Virgo Mercury in 8th house, Cancer Venus in 6th House, Cancer Mars in 6th/7th House,  Part of Fortune in Aries, Saturn in Pisces 2nd House, Virgo Pluto in the 8th House, Sun square Moon 
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{ JOSH HEUSTON, 21, CISGENDER MALE, HE/HIM } Is that NATHANIEL SHAW? A JUNIOR originally from SAG HARBOR, NY, they decided to come to Ogden College to study UNDECIDED on an ATHLETIC SCHOLARSHIP. They’re THE BRUISER WITH A SOFT CENTER on campus, but even they could get blamed for Greer’s disappearance. 
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THE ESSENTIALS
Nathaniel Shaw hates rich people. Raised in a poor family, by an on-and-off single mother thanks to his absentee father, he had to work for every single cent he’s ever had. He dealt with this with bitterness and resentment, choosing to take it out by punching whoever pissed him off, getting into fights and trouble more often than not as he was growing up. With his athletic talents, it was enough to get him a scholarship to Ogden, but not enough that he’d ever get the chip off his shoulder about being the poor kid around the unbelievably wealthy. He’s over-sensitive, withdrawn, and tactless, but if you get on his good side, he may just allow you to share his weed and show that underneath that, he does have a pisces stellium, and does in fact have feelings beyond just letting them get hurt so he can start hitting people.
CHARACTER INSPIRATIONS
ryan atwood  (the oc) - billy dunne (daisy jones and the six) - nate macauley (one of us is lying) - marcus baker (ginny and georgia) -  jj maybank (obx) - william magnusson (skam) - tim riggins (fnl) - jess (gilmore girls) - matt murdock (daredevil) - johnny castle (dirty dancing) - the ninth doctor (doctor who) - roy kent (ted lasso) - the hound (game of thrones) - diego hargreeves (the umbrella academy) - john bender (the breakfast club) - alex karev (grey’s anatomy)
TV TROPES
BRUISER WITH A SOFT CENTER - dark and troubled past - the stoner - byronic hero - abusive parents - disappeared dad - fish out of water - scholarship student - the casanova - jerk jock - delinquents - book dumb - tall dark and snarky - sour outside sad inside - hidden depths 
OGDEN COLLEGE 2022-2023
Major:
Engineering Undecided
Extracurriculars:
Swimming, Crew, Boxing Club
BASIC INFORMATION
FULL NAME: Nathaniel Shaw
NICKNAME(S): Nate, Natey (only from his younger sister, if anyone else calls him that, they’re consenting to be punched in the face)
DATE OF BIRTH: march 23rd, 2001
AGE: twenty-one
ZODIAC SIGN: aries sun, pisces moon, aries rising, pisces mercury, pisces venus (in retrograde), aries mars. have fun!
OCCUPATION: ????????????? part time pool boy, illegal street fighter. idk beyond that
HOMETOWN: sag harbor, ny/melbourne, australia
NATIONALITY: american and australian dual citizen
ETHNICITY: a white man?! no!.gif
LANGUAGE(S): english
GENDER & PRONOUNS: he/him
SEXUAL ORIENTATION: straight, to make it worse
RELIGION: definitely an atheist
POLITICAL AFFILIATION: i don’t think he has political opinions other than eat the rich
RELATIONSHIP TO GREER: he was the Morrison family’s pool boy out in the Hamptons lmfao 
PHYSICAL INFORMATION
FACE CLAIM: Josh Heuston
HEIGHT: 6′5″ 
EYE COLOUR: green
HAIR COLOUR + STYLE: dark brown, worn long-ish like this or maybe occasionally…..like this (yes, the mullet, sorry)
ACCENT + INTENSITY: Australian - it comes and goes with how strong it is. He lived in Melbourne from age 3-15, so it’s definitely there, but it also is faded at this point, especially on certain words, though it can definitely come out stronger as well
TATTOO(S): here
SCAR(S): probably a lot
PIERCING(S): one in each ear lobe - wears a plain gold hoop in them
GLASSES: yes, a la this photo, but he doesn’t wear them 99% of the time. is this man just wandering around blind? very possibly
CLOTHING STYLE: honestly i imagine a lot like Jacob Elordi’s more lowkey style which is cool - something like this, this, this, this, or this. def including the rings too 🥲
PERSONALITY
MBTI TYPE: INFJ
POSITIVE TRAITS: passionate, loyal, independent, honest, brave
NEGATIVE TRAITS: all of them. over-sensitive, short-tempered, aggressive, pessimistic, cynical, crass, withdrawn, resentful, impatient, reckless, (overly) competitive, attention seeking, tactless, brash, intense, aloof
GOALS/DESIRES: (suicide tw) literally nate barely even wants to be alive, so no, he doesn’t have any goals
FEARS: turning into his father
HOBBIES: ….smoking weed, contemplating the misery of his existence, punching people in the face, fucking bitches and getting money (except the money part because he’s poor), playing the guitar/lowkey fucking around with music production
HABITS: his habits include smoking a joint daily, punching whoever pisses him off, scowling when people speak to him……there’s probs more but that’s what i got tbh
SMOKES? weed, constantly.
DRINKS? most definitely
DRUGS? has dabbled, but will certainly get worse if the plots i want work out
HOW THEY EMBODY THEIR TROPE:
Nate is the BRUISER WITH A SOFT CENTER because, at the end of the day, he is far more sensitive than he will ever let on. Everything hurts this Pisces moon, even as he glowers and glares, and yes, punches his way through them. He’s quick to react with anger - which often translates into violence - all while hiding how things are constantly hurting him. It’s easier to ignore it, because there’s nothing he can do. It’s just the hand he was dealt. And if he’s good at anything (which he still thinks may be debatable), it’s throwing a punch.
EXPANDED PERSONALITY:
Most of Nate’s personality is negative. Even what could be a positive trait (such as competitiveness, honesty, sensitivity, intensity….) he tends to turn it up to 1000 until it’s damaging. But honestly, most of it just negative to start with. He’s very withdrawn and broody, spends most of his time and interactions just glowering at people, and yet has an extremely short fuse, so will go from no reaction to swinging in the blink of an eye. he basically throws tantrums like a toddler, albeit a very large, 6′5″ toddler who actually knows how to fight.
However, he is extremely loyal if he decides someone is worth it - spoiler alert, most people aren’t - he will be there for them in the best way Nate knows how. Still tactless, but like, he tries his best. Basically his way of showing emotional support is being like so, uh, you wanna smoke a joint? Because at the end of the day, Nate is not very smart. Emotionally, or in a book smart sense. He can come off a bit of a himbo, just with his attempts to be charming and flirt with women (when he wants to). Plus he’s hot. And he knows it. And isn’t afraid to use it.
When it comes to women (ladies, please run), Nate likes to be pursued. He hates having to make the first move - probably due to of feeling like he isn’t worth it, more on that below - and he will flirt, charm, seduce, but when it actually comes down to it, he wants the other person to make that final leap. Some sort of validation or something. He likes when girls pay attention to him, and tries to coax it out of them. However, he also has a lot of resentment towards his mother for chasing after his father and bending over backwards to try to make things work, so he also loses interest as soon as a girl is too interested. And when he loses interest, he won’t say anything, he’ll just ghost or cheat. The only kind of confrontation Natey boi is good at is one that involves his fists.
His default way of connecting with people is...well, sex. Nate has no examples of a healthy emotional relationship, and he isn’t good at making friends, so typically, when a girl wants to get close to him, he fakes intimacy with his head between their legs, making them feel like they have him because he’s sleeping with them. Like he’s open and connected to them just because they boned. In reality, it’s just his way of avoiding the emotional intimacy he’s petrified of, because he knows it’ll come back to hurt him. The only downside to all that is the rare times he does want to emotionally connect with someone, he has no idea how to. All he knows how to offer is his body, really. 
Nate’s very dry, prone to swearing (he did grow up in Australia), and his sense of humor is very deadpan. If you actually talk to him, you realize there’s a lot of sarcasm in his cynicism, put the issue is that he’s extremely withdrawn from most people, and honestly doesn’t even see the point in having conversations with them. He also uses this to hide a lot of his fundamental insecurities - he genuinely feels like he’s not going to amount to much, mostly because he’s been made to feel that way. He acts brash and confident, but he really does struggle with feeling like he’s worth anything. It’s part of why he gets so over-competitive, because he wants to prove he’s good at something.
CONNECTION IDEAS
CONNECTION PAGE TBD 
always down to brainstorm and put nate into anything that would fit !!
RELATIONSHIP WITH GREER:
When the Shaw family moved back to Sag Harbor from Australia, where Nate’s mother grew up, they instantly realized they were not on the same class playing feel as everyone else. They had never been wealthy. Four children and barely steady incomes from their parents - when they were even together - guaranteed that. The kids all realized pretty quickly they were going to have to get jobs, especially now that their father was completely out of the picture. Nate ended up working for a few families who ‘summered’ (god, he hated that word) nearby, working as a pool boy. One of those families…yeah, you guessed it, was the Morrison’s. Greer took interest in the pretty Australian pool boy who was her age, inviting him along to join some of the parties she and her friends had, despite him being her family’s staff. No way was that going to end badly.
Also, they may have hooked up a time or two their senior year of high school. But that’s irrelevant.
FAMILY
family page tbd
SOCIAL CLASS: lower class
FATHER: Luke Shaw (Bradley Cooper)
MOTHER: Ella Shaw, née Finnegan (Minka Kelly)
SIBLING(S)? 3 - older brother; Liam Shaw (Steven R. McQueen), older sister; Melanie Shaw (Alycia Debnam-Carey), and a younger sister; Quentin Shaw (Emily Carey). Plus one surprise half-sister; Navy James (Kendall Jenner)
CHILDREN? do not let this man reproduce no matter what you do
BIOGRAPHY
Nathaniel Shaw is the 3rd of four children to a very unhappy couple. Ella was twenty, and Luke, her very new Australian boyfriend - a deadbeat musician who wasted any money he got on drugs and alcohol - was twenty-seven, when they got pregnant the first time, and spent the next five years popping out four children. Ella was from Sag Harbor (aka the Hamptons), and she planned on raising her children there, but when Nate was three years old (Finnegan, the youngest, was two), Luke decided to go back to Australia, not giving many fucks if Ella and his children came with them. Ella, having felt like the last seven years of her life would be a waste if she let him walk away, despite their tumultuous, on and off again relationship, picked up the four kids, moved them to Melbourne with their father, and married him. Even married, they broke up a lot, Luke going off and disappearing for months at a time. Ella was inattentive, cold, and distant to her children, even though it never managed to extend to their asshole of a father. All of her emotional output was in that relationship, and her four Shaw siblings ended up holding themselves together to raise each other.
When Nate was fifteen, after twelve years in Australian, Ella decided she had enough, moved back to Sag Harbor, and immediately began the process to divorce Luke. The sibling’s were all shocked, a move around the world confusing enough when you’re a toddler, but nearly impossible for teenagers. Especially for lower class teenagers moving into a place like Sag Harbor, where people - the people who actually lived there - were comparable to them, but there were mansions worth millions of dollars, celebrities, and whole shit ton of wealth that came there to vacation. Nate took the move the hardest, and he started getting into a lot of fights while refusing to adjust. Nate and Liam had always had a rough relationship, and brawled as siblings do, though they tended to get more violent - egged on by their father, who could contribute little, but could contribute how to throw a punch.
After a few months, one of his fights ended up constituting as assault. It was bad enough, and the other kid had no chance to get any fighting back, so Nate ended up in juvie. He had no idea what he was going to do - he knew his mother couldn’t afford to pay for a lawyer, and he pretty much resigned himself to staying in there for however long he got sentenced for. Luckily, the charges were dropped, which would make you think would scare him straight - perhaps get him to stop fighting, but no such luck. Instead, all through high school, Nate had a bit of a reputation. He was a stellar athlete, particularly in swimming, but even more than that, he was spectacular at kicking someone’s ass.
That reputation quickly got him an invite into an illicit fighting ring, which, as you can imagine in the Hamptons, ended up having a lot of money thrown around as bets. Did he enjoy making these rich kids even more money? No, he didn’t. But, he was a surefire bet to win. And what that meant was that he got a cut of the money for himself too. And as desperate as Nate was for money, that was worth it. Plus, the fact that he had no healthy emotional outlet, well...fighting with people was a good way to let it all out. But it got him a reputation for being dangerous, and it got the Hamptons vacationites intrigued to say the least. So he started getting a lot of invites to hang out with them, to go to parties, to be part of the in crowd. When rich kids - like Greer Morrison - were in the Hamptons for the summer, or sneaking out there during various other vacations to party with no supervision, Nate (and often his siblings) would be invited along. And for the first couple years being in Sag Harbor, as a sophomore, a junior....he was fine with it. But as he got older, as he got more aware of the opportunities they would always be presented that he would never even get a chance to sniff at, he grew resentful, he grew bitter, and he grew to hate them. 
All of that came to a head early in the fall of his senior year, when they were having a back to school party in a home that was still being built, music blasting and copious amounts of drugs and alcohol. Of course, young and feeling invincible, no one ever expected for them to be caught. But they were when they accidentally threw a still lit joint out, setting the house ablaze like it was kindling. Honestly, at that point of construction? It basically was. And every single kid there - except for Nate - had rich, influential parents who pulled strings to get them out of trouble. Except for Nate. And he took the fall for it, almost ending up in serious trouble, until he threatened to rat out one of the kids who was there with him. Who’s parent happened to work in law. Then, mysteriously, the trouble mostly went away. But it was still known that he had burned that building down, and invitations from the top schools that had been courting him disappeared, Nate suddenly faced with the sobering realization that he may have completely fucked up his future, because he didn’t have the connections that the rich brats visitng the Hamptons did. 
It infuriated him. Enough so that even though he had been dating one of the rich kids - Parker, a senator’s daughter - for over a year, he had no qualms about ghosting all of them after the party, bitterness coating his every thought and opinion towards the rich kids he had previously tolerated. And while his partying may have gotten more under control - slightly, just due to the lack of access - his fighting got worse. There were multiple times where he was almost caught, almost in serious trouble, but everyone managed to cut him a break. They felt for the Shaw kids, especially Nate, with his talent and yet no parent to support him, and the fact that he had almost ruined everything with a stupid party. So his teachers and even a cop or two, cut the kid a break, knowing - hoping - that so long as he got through this last year of high school with his nose relatively clean, he’d be able to get out of town with a scholarship.
And he did end up getting a scholarship. He got a full ride to Ogden for his athletic talents, and even though it wasn’t the type of place he wanted to be, knowing the crowd of students would be much like the ones he grew up seeing descend on the Hamptons every summer, he went anyways. Did the scholarship come through thanks to some strings pulled, hoping his mouth would stay shut about the arson he didn’t commit? Maybe. But he had no other choice - it’s not like he could pay for college on his own.
SOME FUN FACTS
yes, nate has jacob’s real australian accent
worked as a pool boy and mowed lawns and shit during the summer once he moved back to the Hamptons as a teen to make some extra cash, so rubbed shoulders with a lot of rich kids, which just made him more bitter about all of it
he did in fact sleep with several milf housewives while he was doing above jobs
he is basically ryan atwood and i regret nothing
he came to ogden as a freshman in college, but is very much behind in his schooling - as in, he came as an engineering major (why? no idea - think someone told him too and he was like, well, i have no hopes or dreams of my own, so y not), failed a bunch of classes, and then ended up switching to an undecided major for his junior year...so is he going to graduate on time? absolutely not
plays the guitar and piano and likes to fuck around with music production in his free time - his father is a musician so his lack of acknowledging this/sharing this/actually allowing himself to enjoy it is due to his ~daddy issues~
here’s his pinterest it’s not a good one but alas it’s a bit of somethin somethin
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Cancer New Moon!
Leo Season!
Venus Retrograde!
Damn, it’s been a while. I feel like I say that every time I post but I have not been very active on social media, so I suppose it’s true.
How is everyone feeling? Weepy? Revolutionary? Caught in the wind? Because, honestly, same boo, SAME!
We are coming out of a particularly strong New Moon in Cancer and heading straight into Leo Season, North Node in Aries and Venus Retrograde in Leo… that is a LOT of fire, and fire in very impactful areas of our lives.
I love my Leos, almost as much as they love themselves, and no hate to my Cancerian peeps, but I already have too much water in my chart (hello, Scorpio stellium), so I always look forward to this particular zodiac seasonal change. I think Leo popularity, or at least their reputation, is built on two parts: their ability to be their own best hype-men and the fact that they are “fun” fire signs.
Leos tend to take charge even when they’re not outwardly doing so. Let’s be real, have you ever met a Leo that didn’t do exactly what they wanted to, regardless of what anyone else said? If you have any doubt, believe me, one of my kids is a little lion and I am EXHAUSTED.
That being said, this upcoming Leo season is going to give us all a much-needed boost and revitalize any stagnant energy. Combine that with the Nodes shifting, as well as Venus going retrograde in Leo and we have a 1 2 3 punch of pure fire.
No, your ex is not going to call you (unless that really is a relationship that needs to be revisited, but more on that in a sec), no, your computer isn’t going to go haywire. Not all retrogrades are “bad,” and not all retrogrades are the same. Yes, communication does get a little funky when Mercury goes rx but that’s to be expected, since Mercury rules communication, ideas, Gemini, and Virgo (think Swords or Spades). Venus, however, does not.
Venus is relationships, not just the romantic kind, sensory pleasures, matters of the heart, Libra and Taurus. So, you may find yourself feeling extra cute or spending a little too much during a Venus rx, and this particular transit is no different. Take it from someone who just chopped off all their hair (or at least 12” of it) and cut someone out of their life.
SNIP SNIP is the overriding theme, and that’s not just in ref to the hairdresser’s scissors! If someone is holding you back, not helping you grow, unhealthy or toxic, you will find yourself cutting them out of your life, or at least the urge to do so will be STRONG.
I’m not saying you should completely change your aesthetic and start blocking people, but if the temptation to do so arises, take a moment to ask yourself why, and go from there. I strongly caution against being impulsive, because in my experience it leads to trouble, but I also urge people to listen to their gut. North Node symbolizes our destiny, personal growth, where we look to access the tools to help ourselves achieve our goals in this lifetime. So, if all of a sudden you feel the need to end a particular relationship (again, not just romantic), ask yourself why, and analyze it. Has this partnership been bringing you down? Have you felt increasingly stagnant? Unhappy? Do you feel as if you’ve lost yourself? Alternatively, this transit can also serve as a beacon that shines on positive relationships and help strengthen them. Have you and your significant other braved choppy waters and come out the better for it? Have you completely changed up your style and felt revitalized and reborn? Do you all of a sudden know what your life’s mission is? FANTASTIC!! Embrace it and enjoy!
Think of this past Cancer season as The Hanged Man, and now we are the Death card; first suspended in meditation, and now abruptly cut down from the tree and making the necessary changes to better ourselves.
Themes: ✂️snip snip✂️
Be mindful of: Overspending
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HELLO HI I FORGOT TO ANSWER THIS thank you for sending numbers in 😭
2. what’s your feel-good movie?
i think it's unfortunate that this is my answer in 2023 when the author is garbage and a terf, but it is harry potter. that series was such a huge part of my childhood, it was my first fandom, etc. i learned so much from it, and it helped me through so much. i have never tried to defend any of its critiques because they are all completely valid, and i support anyone and everyone who boycotts the series, whether they once loved it or not. if i was a better person, i would be able to do that too. but i just can't. it means so much to me. and it makes me so fucking sad how many trans fans of harry potter have been alienated or hurt by that fucking woman's actions. anyway, not a feel-good answer to a feel-good question LMAO
5. who do you feel most you around?
LMAO this one is... really hard 😂 i have a gemini stellium, and the two-faced stereotype is inaccurate and misunderstood, but... it does come from somewhere. i feel like different people bring out different facets of myself. and i feel like myself with a lot of very different people. i'll reframe this question in a way that makes more sense to me, but it might just be semantics: i feel most comfortable around my best friend. she allows me to be my most vulnerable and knows me very intimately. she sees a lot of parts of me that i'm very ashamed of, and she doesn't make me feel ashamed for them. she helps me through a lot of those things, and i don't feel the need to be anything around her. we match each other's moods and feelings very well.
13. what's your comfort food?
bitch, it's a 10-piece mcnugget meal from mcdonalds. i wish it was something else, but it's just not. HAHAHAHAHAHA
thank you thank you thank you for sending this in!!! it made me so happy to get this
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