#dunning kruger effect

[odinsblog]

Dunning-Kruger effect 🤝 racism 🤝 anti intellectualism 🤝 misogyny

[korrasera]

Misconception: Dunning-Kruger Effect

The Dunning-Kruger effect isn't what you think it is:

It doesn't mean what everyone tells you it means.

It doesn't mean that stupid people think they're smart.

It doesn't mean only stupid people demonstrate it.

It means that the less you know about something (yes, that means you; you and me and literally everyone) the more likely we are to overestimate how much we know about something.

Every time you pickup a new skill or start learning about a new topic, you'll be right there with everyone else, overestimating your understanding. It's okay, it's part of the learning process.

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Some bonus friendly advice:

There's no such thing as stupid people.

People can be ignorant jackasses or completely arrogant jackwagons, but stupid isn't really a thing that exists. It's just a way to judge people for being different or for not knowing something someone else considers necessary.

Anyone trying to sell you on a theory that requires you to see other people as stupid is someone you shouldn't listen to.

[wildeasteroid]

I've always been aware that I'm a fairly smart person, but it's never been reflected in my grades or personality due to undiagnosed adhd. my friends always joked that I was the dumbest person in the group, and I enjoyed that dynamic for a bit. I think that it came from the fact that I've always been the class clown and have always wanted people around me to laugh and think I'm funny, so I adapted the personality of "the dumb friend", even though I, in reality, was smarter than my friend group. I think it also originated in autistic traits that I have (I've yet to be diagnosed with autism), I can have a hard time understanding social cues, which my friends found funny and categorized as traits that made me "dumb".

between the ages of 13 and 19, I had a best friend. we went to the same high school and studied the same programme. we were both adhd kids, wild as hell and we matched each other really well personality-wise. neither of us had any aspirations beyond high school. we studied a programme that was designed for us to start working directly after graduation, which I did. we had fun, but she always had an underlying tone of being an arsehole to me; she would always make fun of me when I said something she couldn't understand -- the dunning kruger effect.

after getting my adhd diagnosis at 17, I became more and more interested in these "bigger" questions, so to speak; do we really have free will? or; if I never have children, a line of thousands upon thousands of people who have had children just ends with me. I talked to my best friend about these things, which of course I would, she was my best friend, we told each other everything! she would always look at me and call me an idiot and weird.

fast forward to the summer of 2023; she cut all lines of contact after I told her to not be a dick about someone in my (kind of) family passing away. she didn't like this person, and couldn't for the life of her understand why I was sad about it. I haven't been in contact with her since.

fast forward again to 2025; I'm now studying my first year of university and next year I'm going to major in philosophy and the history of ideas. as far as I know, she is on sick leave and has no aspirations of ever getting a job (she has been on sick leave for "depression", but has never once made an effort to get better, in reality, she is just lazy and doesn't want to work). I'm not a person who thinks about "revenge" or karma, but I think she finally got her karma. and I'm so glad I'm no longer weighed down by someone who only wants to see me fail.

[religion-is-a-mental-illness]

"A false conclusion once arrived at and widely accepted is not easily dislodge; and the less it is understood, the more tenaciously it is held." -- Georg Cantor, German mathematician (1845-1918)

[hicapacity]

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elegyében pállott, ápolatlan mentálhigiénia mocsarában dagonyáztatott, habzó szájú kisebbség megerősítésre vár.

Irányítóik alantas hatalomvágyait kiszolgálva kényszerítenék saját igénytelenségüket a teljes magyar népességre.

A tudatlanság, a tájékozatlanság, a torz valóságérzékelés - és a kormánypárt igényeinek megfelelően sekélyesre gyalult moralitás szellemében nyílt erőszakra uszított szavazótábor toporzékolása borítékolható a következő mintegy másfél évben, és akàr mégtovább!

Orkán Viktor és felheccelt csőcseléke még nem végzett!

Amint az jól látható, a suttyóképzésben és erkölcstelenítésben határ a csillagos ég!

Az arroganciára idomított és kellő mértékben fanatizált fasisztoid csoport kész átlépni a törvényesség kereteit, hisz a kormány támogatja ezt!

NE legyenek kétségeink, hogy a kognitív torzításban lubickoló, felajzott horda - vezére jelére várva készül törni, zúzni!

Mindezen tények tükrében Magyar Péter mellé szervezett testőrséget javaslok, de minél előbb, annál jobb!

[donotdestroy]

“Not knowing the scope of your own ignorance is part of the human condition. The problem with it is we see it in other people, and we don't see it in ourselves. The first rule of the Dunning–Kruger club is you don't know you're a member of the Dunning–Kruger club.”

— David Dunning

[shotbyshe]

Words of the Day

gawp:

To stare stupidly or rudely; to gawk.

Look with amazement; look stupidly.

urchin:

A playful or mischievous youngster; a scamp.

A sea urchin.

A hedgehog.

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which people with limited competence in a particular domain overestimate their abilities.

more layman's definition: the tendency of people with low ability in a specific area to give overly positive assessments of this ability. This is often seen as a cognitive bias, i.e. as a systematic tendency to engage in erroneous forms of thinking and judging.

arpeggio: a type of broken chord in which the notes that compose a chord are individually and quickly sounded in a progressive rising or descending order. Arpeggios on keyboard instruments may be called rolled chords.

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'Urchin' is what Noodle was called in Wonka.

Suga spoke about attempting to do an arpeggio at his concert when his guitar string broke.

[odinsblog]

In the darkest chapter of German history, during a time when incited mobs threw stones into the windows of innocent shop owners and women and children were cruelly humiliated in the open; Dietrich Bonhoeffer, a young pastor, began to speak publicly against the atrocities.

After years of trying to change people’s minds, Bonhoeffer came home one evening and his own father had to tell him that two men were waiting in his room to take him away.

In prison, Bonhoeffer began to reflect on how his country of poets and thinkers had turned into a collective of cowards, crooks and criminals. Eventually he concluded that the root of the problem was not malice, but stupidity.

In his famous letters from prison, Bonhoeffer argued that stupidity is a more dangerous enemy of the good than malice, because while “one may protest against evil; it can be exposed and prevented by the use of force, against stupidity we are defenseless. Neither protests nor the use of force accomplish anything here. Reasons fall on deaf ears.”

Facts that contradict a stupid person’s prejudgment simply need not be believed and when they are irrefutable, they are just pushed aside as inconsequential, as incidental. In all this, the stupid person is self-satisfied and, being easily irritated, becomes dangerous by going on the attack.

For that reason, greater caution is called for when dealing with a stupid person than with a malicious one. If we want to know how to get the better of stupidity, we must seek to understand its nature.

This much is certain, stupidity is in essence not an intellectual defect but a moral one. There are human beings who are remarkably agile intellectually yet stupid, and others who are intellectually dull yet anything but stupid.

The impression one gains is not so much that stupidity is a congenital defect but that, under certain circumstances, people are made stupid or rather, they allow this to happen to them.

People who live in solitude manifest this defect less frequently than individuals in groups. And so it would seem that stupidity is perhaps less a psychological than a sociological problem.

It becomes apparent that every strong upsurge of power, be it of a political or religious nature, infects a large part of humankind with stupidity. Almost as if this is a sociological-psychological law where the power of the one needs the stupidity of the other.

The process at work here is not that particular human capacities, such as intellect, suddenly fail. Instead, it seems that under the overwhelming impact of rising power, humans are deprived of their inner independence and, more or less consciously, give up an autonomous position.

The fact that the stupid person is often stubborn must not blind us from the fact that he is not independent. In conversation with him, one virtually feels that one is dealing not at all with him as a person, but with slogans, catchwords, and the like that have taken possession of him.

He is under a spell, blinded, misused, and is abused in his very being. Having thus become a mindless tool, the stupid person will also be capable of any evil – incapable of seeing that it is evil.

Only an act of liberation, not instruction, can overcome stupidity. Here we must come to terms with the fact that in most cases a genuine internal liberation becomes possible only when external liberation has preceded it. Until then, we must abandon all attempts to convince the stupid person.

Bonhoeffer died due to his involvement in a plot against Adolf Hitler, at dawn on 9 April 1945 at Flossenbürg concentration camp - just two weeks before soldiers from the United States liberated the camp.

—Dietrich Bonhoeffer’s Theory of Stupidity

[religion-is-a-mental-illness]

"Even more dangerous than ignorance, however, is a fallacious certitude, which can afflict people at all educational levels and all IQ levels. While we may not see our own fallacies, the saving grace in this situation is taht we can often see other people's fallacies much more clearly - and they can see ours. In a world of inevitably fallible human beings, with inevitably different viewpoints and different fragments of consequential knowledge, our ability to correct each other can be essential to preventing our making fatally dangerous mistakes as individuals, or as a society." -- Thomas Sowell

[adultlearnersallegedly]

The Supremely Confident Student (aka: The Untouchable Genius)

Over time, I’ve noticed that students fall into sub-categories. Some are curious explorers. Some are cautious improvers. And then there’s this one: supremely self-confident, positively oozing arrogance, and brimming with self-importance. You can smell it on the application form.

They’ve never done distance learning before—but how hard can it be? After all, they once taught themselves macramé from a YouTube short and now they’re basically a craft deity. No experience with the subject matter? No worries! Their natural brilliance will obviously carry them. They didn’t ask for advice about what level to enrol on, because they don’t need advice. Advice is for peasants.

But then…reality bites.

The feedback is in. It’s not a glowing ode to their greatness. It says things like: “Resubmit required,” and “Please refer to the brief.” Cue existential meltdown. Except—hold the self-reflection. Because if their work is bad, it can’t be their fault. No, no. Clearly the course is flawed. The tutor? Incompetent. The materials? Impossible. The very fabric of reality is conspiring against their genius.

Psychologists call this the Dunning-Kruger effect—a cognitive bias where people with low ability at a task overestimate their own skill. Or as I like to call it: “The moment someone who’s never parallel parked before declares they’re ready for Formula 1.”

This student type is exhausting. They don’t want feedback, they want applause. They won’t adjust their submission—they expect you to adjust your judgment. And if you don’t? Well clearly, you are the problem.

Teaching them is a bit like trying to iron a shirt while it’s still being worn by a cat: stressful, painful, and mostly futile.

But hey, at least they’re confident.

[daftnerd]

I think it's not that you're actually getting worse but more the dunning kruger effect. But if you power through it, it gets better.

please please please please reblog if you’re a writer and have at some point felt like your writing is getting worse. I need to know if I’m the only one who’s struggling with these thoughts

[ilpensierononlineare-10]

Illudersi di essere Esperti - l'Effetto Dunning - Kruger

L’Effetto Dunning – Kruger è una distorsione cognitiva e nasce da un pregiudizio cognitivo legato alla presunta “superiorità illusoria” personale e quindi dall’incapacità di riconoscere la propria impreparazione e mancanza di capacità in un particolare campo di discussione o materia. 

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[newristics]

The Dunning Kruger Effect is when people who don't know something or are incompetent in it will overestimate their capabilities.

[rosie-dear-rosie]

Mentally, I’m here

[fromkenari]