#emotions vs logic

[tears-that-heal]

Dear Lord, Save Me from Myself. 😵‍💫

Philomena arrived this month as something fierce than usual. For about 4 days now, she’s caused me to suffer from severe stress, anxiety, anger and easily agitated. What’s even worse is how much it has affected my loved ones. In the mist of it all, I sincerely have very limited self control of my emotions. Normally I’m the total opposite, I’ve strived most of my life to learn how to best manage and care for my emotions well. This means little when you have PMDD; premenstrual dysphoric disorder. Having your emotions and etc. being mostly influenced by your biology and not your logical reasoning. Sounds super frustrating and hopeless, uh? So within years pasted, I’ve learn that I can basically become like Gloomy Bear. This only happens rarely now since I receive some medical treatment to help me manage my hormones and symptoms. I still hate it when I become this other person cause I can hurt the people I love. 😭

I still look like the sweet and kind person I really am on the outside, but Philomena (aka PMDD) brings out the super uglies from deep within. 😖 I loath her with passion!

JESUS, Please Take it Away!!! Free Me Of This Madness. 😫

*To clarify, the character “gloomy bear” is physically abusive to his human owner. This completely does not reflect myself. That includes whenever I’m having my menstrual cycle or not. Gloomy bear is only being used here as an extreme visual example of how I personally think I might be externally perceived by others. PMDD would be under the label of an “invisible illness/disability”. Plus, it’s an uncommonly known disorder. Which concludes that it’s commonly misunderstood and easily not believed to exist, a very similar mindset toward “mental illness” in general.

MAY is Mental Health Awareness Month

[dex1o]

"Despite everything, it's still you."

"...is it really?"

[0vergrowngraveyard]

i will forever be on my “tails and infinte could’ve had such a good hero-villain dynamic in forces if the player character didn’t take over tails’ role” bullshit

[bumblingbabooshka]

[Tuvok & Janeway: Control, Distance, Duty & Connection.] Sources: St Voyager Transcripts / Mitski 'First Love Late Spring' / Disco Elysium

[krashlite]

I p I promise I’m not trying to vilify c!Scott but so many problems keep leading back to him the more I analyze this goddamn series and I’m shaking him around like a goddamn ragdoll Sir why are you Like This

Edit: in trying to unpack why he’s like this I went down a very parasocial rabbit hole so I’m j I’m just gonna put that one back in the box actually

[timelyicebook]

Book and Icy: Logic vs Emotion

i think it's interesting how book and ice cube complement each other with their contrasting views. you would think that icy would be the most aggressive one because of her passion for revenge and book being more calm and collected because she is book smart but it's the opposite.

one of these examples is when book was fighting coiny in bfdia 11. while book takes action into fighting coiny, ice cube stays in the corner and tells book to stop fighting since violence is not the answer.

i believe this is because book and ice cube respond to contrasting reasonings. book responds to emotion. book feels and cares deeply for herself and others that she considers friends. book is a very kind character and her beliefs into protecting her friends and herself is what allows her to take action. she's confrontational because she feels strongly. she is someone that sticks strongly to her values and acts upon them. she does not tolerate being disrespected and stands up for herself, boldly vocalizing her opinions. all of these feelings culminate into letting emotion guide her.

thiss could also explain why she was so aggressive with her opinion that taco abandoned team bleh. all of her aggression towards taco is formed on the emotional belief she will be abandoned again. adding with the fact with book's mistreatment in freesmart, book's emotions are so strong, that it causes her to lash out on others and cloud her judgement.

ice cube on the other hand is not confrontational despite being vengeful. ice cube actually functions with logic. she is the one to stay out of a fight if things get heated. and as seen in bfdia 11 when she tells book to stop fighting as violence isn't the answer. it's also interesting that ice cube does not actively try to seek revenge, only enacting it when the opportunity is given as seen when she pushed leafy off the cliff and used her face elimination prize on pin.

in contrast to book who actively uses emotion to guide her, icy is more rational. because icy is not confrontational she is often silent when drama arises, especially when book was ranting about taco "abandoning" team bleh. she is also silent about book's rant with taco as she remains neutral and won't let herself get into unnecessary drama. she doesn't speak up about taco but neither does she speak up about book. icy only steps up to speak for herself if she gets mistreated. and even then icy is never the one confront the root problem itself, avoiding it if possible and that is what makes her hold a grudge. she avoids talking with book about the problem instead of addressing it.

when icy speaks up for herself, it's blunt, honest, and straight to the point. like in bfb 13 when she directly tells book to let her think for herself. another example is in bfdia 11, when she was not afraid to stand up to flower and call her ugly. or in bfdia 5a when she directly tells pin that she wants to go to match's party with her own volition.

because of these contrasting responses, they complement each other well. you could say that both of them are the voices of reason in freesmart, icy and book both balancing each other out. book speaks up for others if she feels that one of her team members are mistreated. she constantly defends ruby and icy and she is willing to include and help others if needed. she is the one to ask if they should save gb, tb, and rocky from evil leafy and insisted on including firey and gelatin to freesmart. book is the one to suggest going back to icy's team after she started crying that her team members left her.

icy balances book out through logic. besides telling book to stop fighting coiny in bfdia 11, she is also the one to tell book that including firey and gelatin was not a good idea as she suspects them of ulterior motives. icy also complements book with her street smarts to book's well book smarts. she is the one to come up with plans to help freesmart win like when she tampered with yellow face's earphones, bending the eiffel tower to paint it pink, and figuring out how to use her ugly face into a beautiful face.

it's so interesting how both book and icy hate being mistreated but they follow completely different responses. book sticks to her core beliefs which allows her to defend and help others but eventually clouds her judgement . icy is the opposite as she calmly stays out of trouble and focuses more rationally on helping the team and avoiding conflict. at the same time, it also doesn't help her properly resolve tensions and conflict.

nonetheless, this is what makes them such a good duo. book can defend and protect ice cube as she values friendship while also reasoning with emotion. icy can tell book bluntly if something goes wrong or let book know she doesn't like what she's doing. it's because of their different responses that causes them to fall out as icy does not approve of book speaking for her.

but this also lets book acknowledge her faults. while gaty may have been the one to call out book, it was icy's argument that made her realize about what book did that went wrong. in fact, because icy directly told her that she did not like the way book was treating her, icy was the one that made book realize her actions did not protect her interests which is what ultimately led her into changing to be a better person.

[petorahs]

holyfrick. wait. kaveh. he's kinda so relatable to me

i didnt expect his character stories to hit so hard 😭 i get the feeling that they really put in the effort to weave his viewpoints and why they both work and fall apart. I feel like he's also the dev's take on art in an increasingly capitalistic environment + artblock... its all so wordy and poetic i kinda love him.

more of my faves from his lore:

A person who wished to ascend to the garden of heaven upon steps made of thin air would inevitably plant their feet on an empty stair and fall to their death. As a genius, Kaveh longed to belong in a crowd, subconsciously fearing separation from it — this was the difference between him and Alhaitham.

People should not give up, for even if they are doing good in an attempt to make up for something, the results will still have meaning for some. Even if he could not enter that promised land of his ideals, that did not mean the radiance and the attraction of such a realm should be denied.

Page 31: Some academic notes and architectural drawings. Postscript: "Our views are aligned, and they are complete." This line has been struck out. "Our views are contradictory, but it is through contradiction that more speculation and philosophy may be born." This line has been retained.

[tablefourtyone]

I can't find anywhere, any source, any mention of Kaveh being the Dionysian to Alhaitham's Apollonian.

Here you go.

[starlytenight]

Love is a need

[brookheimer]

do i post my long explanation of empathy vs sympathy re: roman tonight or is that just excessive

[harurio]

guardian ep5

@oneiro-nautical i hope you are having a lovely day

shades of the distinctly green bathwater in secret of the valet

'move out of the staff dormitories' 1) the staff live in dorms? 2) i sense an opportunity for cohabitation/forced proximity..........

lin jing is so funny i love him

oh okay shen wei has a house. that uni must pay him real good

this is just like on supernatural

the butler did it.

get that old man's ass shen wei!!! (nonsexual)

phone convo! in spirit they are both lying in bed kicking their feet twirling their hair. i can tell. i miss having a landline my parents had one in our old apartment and i still know its number by heart

two babies in this photo plus one grumpy old man

okay i will not laugh, i won't, but the kid turning from a poorly animated water figure into just some dude and the old guy whooshing around like the flash is kinda getting me

i'm sorry i know and respect that they're trying to hit these emotional beats but something about it just isn't working for me this ep i'm struggling so hard idk why it's so funny

YES almighty zhao yunlan step in and save us from the rest of this fight scene

hiiiiiii shen wei we have not seen you in foreverrrrr

ooh cool first glimpse of the underworld. looks kinda like the burial mounds in the untamed except lower budget. love the color scheme

zhao yunlan shuffle-jogging along is kinda cute

shen wei your sleeve garters are KILLING ME you're such a fucking nerd (salivating) (who said that)

(zhao yunlan said it that's who)

now look at this.

a baby

hmmm a locked room mystery! exciting! i like how they're overlapping mysteries in each episode, keeps us on our toes

i have romance on the brain, i keep seeing opportunities that a bl would take and run with (caretaking, cohabitation, etc) and that's not what this story is primarily about, it's a supernatural/crime drama with a homoerotic subplot. so i gotta be patient to see more weilan interactions. i'm excited to see how the pieces of the big story start coming together though!

[bosquedemel]

the twists and turns on foundation 1x09... god i love a convoluted story

[narryffdreaming]

one of the things i struggle the most when it comes to my brain is the fact that im too logical for certain things and therefore i can't engage with the things most people around me seem to care about.

for instance, if i don't like an artist, i don't consume that artist. i don't care about that artist. i don't worry, nor think about that artist — unless, for some reason, they cross paths with something i care about. that's my "logical" reaction. so whilst people around me engage and have fun "hating" on someone, i genuinely (GENUINELY) don't understand the fun in that or why someone would waste so much time over something they don't care about (?). which is why im always bored reading things online and don't really interact that much with (basically) anything.

same goes for gossiping. if i don't know the people my friends are talking about, or if im not somehow affected by whatever happened, or if none of my friends are somehow affected by it, i genuinely couldn't care less about whatever or whoever. because, again, my "logical" reaction is "why will i bother with something i don't care about?". so whilst my friends have long conversations about what happened to x and y, and whilst everyone in town knows everyone and everything, im always the person who doesn't know who X is and doesn't have an opinion about whatever happened to them bc... who cares? yknow? idk them, so idk. i don't care. whatever.

and in the end, it's just like that for everything. people will complain at work about things that i'll find a logical explanation for, and so i don't feel like complaining about it at all. or i'll see something on tv and roll my eyes bc i already know someone wrote that in a very specific way and chose that exact sad song just to make people emotional, and won't be able to emotionally involve myself with whatever im watching. and etc etc etc.

then of course, that doesn't mean im not empathetic or i don't care about anything... i just simply have a different pov over things. and maybe i'll care about that conversation everyone's having, but my approach to it will be different.

and trust me, this awareness of being too "logical" instead of "emotional" doesn't mean i think im better. tbh, it's one of the things i wish i could change bc it socially sets me off a lot of times. bc either a) people think im boring for not engaging with conversations or b) i engage with conversations and end up too exhausted for pretending to be something/someone im not. so i can never win.

anyway i personally don't like the word neurodivergent but in the end, no matter how we call it, the point is that it blows my mind how much these disorders can set us apart from most people simply because we can't understand/internalize/react to things the same way. idk it's been a long day im tired my brain is tired. idk if it makes sense haha. anyway. anywayyyyyyy.

[bumblingbabooshka]

Tuvok says that Vulcan children are very well behaved and have a lot of emotional control by the time they’re ~elementary school aged which makes sense but also makes me want to see what a Vulcan toddler or kindergartener acts like since they can’t be reasoned with as well (can’t really meditate) + are babies and also brimming with near irrepressible violence/emotions.

Vulcan toddler is just quietly accompanying their parent along on an errand. They stop and point to a toy of some sort and ask politely if they can have it. Their parent explains that they have enough toys at home. The toddler immediately throws the tantrum of the century. Just turns into an absolute wild animal in their rage. Other Vulcans are just like “aaa I remember when my children were that age” but any aliens around are like “oh my god is that thing OK??” I imagine even older Vulcan children would have issues with emotional control given that they’re also children! Though they’d of course know they needed to control themselves and behave...sometimes you just slip up. Vulcan children are playing together harmoniously. Then one breaks the established rules of the game. “I made contact with your arm. You are now the chaser.” “You did not make contact with my arm. I dodged your attempt.” “You dodged unsuccessfully. I made contact with your arm.” “I did not.” “You are cheating.” “I believe you are the one cheating.” And an adult has to rush over as one pounces on the other and they both begin screaming and clawing at each other’s eyes. The rest of the children are watching with interest or perhaps grabbing implements to assist their friend.  Little lapses in emotional control would probably be common until they reached like....highschool age. I can imagine an eleven year old Vulcan hearing they can’t sleepover a friend’s home and immediately shattering a vase before apologizing and cleaning it up.  It also seems like bullying would be very prevalent on Vulcan. Spock is canonically bullied frequently and it seems natural that Violent, Extreme Emotions in teenagers would lead to that kind of behavior which isn’t outwardly unacceptable (like crying, laughing, etc) but still satisfies an illogical desire towards cruelty and establishing dominance.  Vulcans schools probably have so many ‘Bullying Is Illogical’ seminars that do nothing and everyone makes fun of behind their teacher’s backs. Two Vulcan teenagers bullying each other, trying to see who has the more emotional reaction. If you cry or get mad you lose. Only babies cry and get mad...seems pretty illogical(cringe).  Vulcans seem to be very focused on respectability so I’m sure that as bloodthirsty teens there would be a lot of accusations and rules...if you hang out with X then Z,H and Y won’t talk to you. If you apologize too soon then they might accuse you of behaving too emotionally and gossip about you...if you don’t apologize at all they might accuse you of behaving too emotionally and gossip about you. It’s very stressful. Tuvok also said when he was a teenager in that one flashback that he was ready to fight over the girl he had a crush on (saying he’d “issue a challenge” or something) so I’m implementing that into my personal understanding of Vulcans...like adults do NOT want these kids to fight but amongst other teens they’re like:  “Seynar is my boyfriend.” “I disagree. He sat next to me during meditation three times this week.” “Only because I was absent.” “Then he is fickle and will be mine soon enough.” And then they challenge one another to a secret duel after school. Dueling to the death is very cool and grownup v_v (teens rarely die from such duels though bc either the other teen stops or someone told an adult). It makes sense to me that teenagers with violent urges would fight one another in a way that they consider acceptably adult. (mimicking the marriage ritual thing or even pon farr...romantic and cool.) Imagine being a teen Vulcan and your crush starts hinting that they have another person who might be interested in them....hmmm.....and you know you’re gonna have to duel for them or lose em. Such is life. Vulcan teens seem like they’d either date a lot (emotional whims) very non seriously (because they’re all betrothed) or date not at all because they’re gonna get married to their betrothed anyway. Loving someone other than your fated match is probably a pretty big trope in Vulcan romance stories...or maybe the opposite? Like someone bad tries to steal your heart but you remain resolute and return to your fated match as is logical. Anyway all this to say that I think Vulcan children and emotional control is something that’s fun to think about. Especially regarding how Vulcan children would act around adults vs other children. Vulcan child to adult: I will do my best to get along with my sibling. (2 seconds later once mother has left)  Vulcan child: You may play with the red toy. If you play with the blue toy I will harm you. Bodily. Meanwhile their older sibling is rolling their eyes like ugh....threatening violence is for babies....now to prepare for my logical and very adult duel for the love of my life whom I have known for three months. v_v

[dykearthurmorgan]

i'm just saying if joel had let the fireflies kill ellie, that would have made him a worse person in my eyes.

anyone with a child who would willingly let their kid be butchered is worthless. any parent who wouldn't fight until they died to get their kid out of that hospital is a piece of shit and coward and i truly believe that

the only reason people are debating the ethics of it is because majority of people in joel's shoes wouldn't have been able to make a difference. they would have been forced to stand by while it happened. joel's the villain because he'a uniquely equipped to tear thru that hospital

in another universe, ellie's mother lives just to helplessly watch her friend sacrifice her daughter and there would be no debate about who was right or wrong. genuinely tell me if there was a screaming mother begging for her daughter's life while her brain was removed people would be having the discussion of 'is joel in the right'