Go then if you must, but remember, no matter how foolish your deeds, those who love you will love you still.
- Sophocles, Antigone
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After reading Medea—Im not saying she’s right but I’m also not saying she’s wrong…
The fact I’m reading Jason and the argonauts after is going to ruin my perception of him.
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okay so whats the context of that Herakles quote you reblogged tho
Howdy anon.
I’ll start by adding:
TW/CW: suicide mention. Child death mention.
Also spoilers for the play Herakles if you want to read it.
Herakles is a play by Euripides. It’s a Greek Tragedy with a focus on Heracles’ 12 Labors (mainly his journey to the Underworld to capture Cerberus)
Anyway.
Heracles is hated by Hera since he’s Zeus’ son. She curses him with madness like 3 or 4 different times in his mythology. This tragedy shows her sending Heracles into madness where he believes he is slaying the king who forced him into the 12 Labors.
After his rampage he regains lucidity and learns he’s slaughtered his wife and kids.
The quote in question:
Theseus: Stop. Give me your hand. I am your friend.
Herakles: I fear to stain your clothes with blood.
Theseus: Stain them, I don’t care.
This dialogue happens as Theseus is trying to console Heracles and convince him not to unalive himself. While really tragic it’s also a sign of Theseus’ kindness or simply his loyalty to Heracles (who had pulled Theseus from the underworld earlier in the play)
In Ancient Greek society killing your family or “kindred bloodshed” was like one of the worst things you could do. Still Theseus remained by Heracles’ side, and even gives him hospitality in Athens and half of his wealth.
The play ends with Heracles deciding not to die while leaning on Theseus as they head to Athens.
Sorry for all the text. But this play is emotional! Felt like it needed context as to why it’s both tragic and profound that Theseus said this to Heracles.
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Heracles:
What is it, little brother?
Dionysus
I can't explain.
But still I'll try to tell you in a riddle.
Did you ever feel a sudden urge for soup?
Heracles:
Soup! Yowee! Ten thousand times so far.
Dionysus:
Have I made it clear, or should I try again?
Heracles:
Not about the soup, I fully comprehend.
- Aristophanes, Frogs, Line 60
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Need more people to appreciate i get to perform lobotomies with my hobby
Anyway if you needed motivation to get into theater (and especially Greek theater) this should be it
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So I'm new to this but it's just songs? No acting or scenes? Or even dialogue??
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τοιοῖσδε χρησμοῖς ἆρα χρὴ πεποιθέναι;
κεἰ μὴ πέποιθα, τοὔργον ἔστ᾽ ἐργαστέον.
πολλοὶ γὰρ εἰς ἓν συμπίτνουσιν ἵμεροι.
Must I trust in these oracles?
Even if I do not, the deed must be done.
For many desires dash together into one.
[Aeschylus, Libation Bearers, line 297-299]
τοιάδ᾽ ἐξ ἐμοῦ
ὁ τῶν θεῶν τύραννος ὠφελημένος
κακαῖσι ποιναῖς ταῖσδὲ μ᾽ ἐξημείψατο.
ἔνεστι γάρ πως τοῦτο τῇ τυραννίδι
νόσημα, τοῖς φίλοισι μὴ πεποιθέναι.
He was aided by me in these things,
and yet the tyrant of the gods repaid me
with a malicious reward.
For somehow this malady is ever present in tyranny:
not trusting those dear to you.
[Aeschylus, Prometheus Bound, lines 223-227]
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Greatness brings no profit to people.
God indeed, when in anger, brings
Greater ruin to great men’s houses
— Euripides, Medea (transl. Rex Warner)
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coloured old drawings of some characters in my mind while reading Euripides' version of Elektra! from early December 2021 oh my gods
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