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While it’s never been publicly confirmed,
it’s highly likely that the Seventh Inspector returned Dynamo to Greenwich long before his trip to Earth where he reincarnated into his eighth incarnation.
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nixtorr · 1 year
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eight and liv but they enable eachother’s murderous tendancies instead of their actual dynamic
#eighth doctor#liv chenka#eight and liv but eight is the same eight who would have killed davros gladly if they were the only victims in terror firma#eight and liv but eight takes more traits from caerdroia’s the nasty one#eight and liv but eight resembles the eight who was like ‘give me the code and i shant break your arm’#gets the code and whomps the guy’s head against a wall in vanishing point#eight and liv but eights character actually makes sense to be like that after de1#im sorry but eight is rarely an optimist. he is however a hopeful realist#‘despair accords with reality but i insist on hope’ and such#he KNOWS the universe is full of evil but#his hope never stops him from doing horrible things. like killing the clock faced people in anachrophobia#in de1 he is faced with his despair after the death of lucie in the face of ww1 and the daleks and the fake reality made to please him#and when he thought molly had died when she fell. he still had hope. he still climbed back up. but he was still ready to jump back down#with the risk of death#he was going to go to the end of the universe to look for hope. he hurt the tardis and himself for it.#thats all good. thats sexy. but why after all that is he so horribly an optimist#why does he believe that the eleven can change after he's been like that since his second incarnation. lumps of rock evolving into flowers#the only nice incarnation of his being the eight but he was like that since he was born and he was obviously struggling#why does he treat dickbag landlord from better watch out like he has any empathy in him before hes literally dragged to hell#anyway. bitchier eight and bitchier liv i think theyd be great together#actually. the amount of bitch liv is is great already
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gallifreyanhotfive · 9 months
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Random Doctor Who Facts You Might Not Know
The Doctor has been known to keep a teddy bear in his pocket.
The Master's first TARDIS (Lolita) is the Doctor's TARDIS's twin.
The Eighth Doctor once had sex with a sentient planet.
Machiavelli, Richelieu, and Robespierre were all just different aliases for the immortal Hades.
The iceberg that the Titanic crashed into was actually the Monk's TARDIS.
Also on board at the time were several incarnations of the Doctor, the Decayed Master, Jack Harkness, John Hart, Ace McShane, and Bernice Summerfield.
The First, Fourth, and Fifth Doctors were all in London around when the Great Fire started in 1666.
The Eighth Doctor was briefly engaged to Queen Edith but ran away before the wedding.
Consecrated planets, moons, and asteroids cannot be mined under Galactic Law.
The Doctor used to make up imaginary enemies to play fight when they were a small, lonely child. One of these enemies was called Mandrake.
The Sixth Doctor once went back in time with Peri to kill a baby who would become an evil dictator but could not go through with it.
After Nyssa tried to fix the chameleon circuit, the TARDIS took the shape of a whale.
Tegan Jovanka is the Earth Ambassador to Gallifrey.
The First Doctor participated in a riot and became wanted by the CIA two days before running away from Gallifrey (although some sources dispute this).
While the Ninth Doctor witnessed Kennedy's assassination, the First Doctor witnessed McKinley's.
The First Doctor has been repeatedly eaten and regurgitated by a whale before.
Marilyn Monroe married both the Eleventh Doctor and King Henry VIII, who fathered Elizabeth I, who married the Tenth Doctor, and he had also been married to Amy Pond, who was also the Doctor’s mother-in-law through River Song. Talk about a confusing family tree!
The First Doctor fed a snapping wart fowl to Valyes's summer project, and Valyes has had a grudge ever since.
The Eighth Doctor once demanded to die naked upon being sentenced to execution.
All righty, folks. I'm very tired! Good night. I may add more later.
Part 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 37, 38, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 45, 46, 47, 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55, 56, 57, 58, 59, 60, 61, 62, 63, 64, 65, 66, 67
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natequarter · 15 days
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obsessed with the idea of time lords' individual incarnations being shaped in large part by the circumstances of their regeneration, and the idea that regeneration is traumatic for all time lords. i actually really dislike the take that the doctor is the only time lord significantly messed up by regeneration. it's death! death is an act of change. the doctor is frequently extremely messed up by regeneration because it's in dangerous circumstances and they don't give themselves much time to heal, but like. case study 101 for fucked up regenerations: andred. he kills another time lord to save his life, then immediately impersonates the man he killed. born in a morgueitis. he's dead from the very beginning and he's pretending to be dead the whole time: andred is believed to be dead and torvald is dead, but andred is alive and having to pretend that torvald is not. etc. or missy: she literally has to orchestrate her own death to survive. actually, most of the master's body swaps probably go a long way towards explaining... that. or the eighth doctor. born in a morgueitis strikes again! who am i? dead from the very beginning, doomed to fight in a war that can have no end other than his death or his species' death. or romana: regeneration is ultimately, if not brought on to avoid permanent death, an act of suicide. regeneration is fatal! it offers rebirth, but it is a violent act of change. it can only ever be death or suicide. act like it.
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What if after Peaches has her 8 kids she gets killed by the celestial realm or something, and there's nothing the Sun family can do but wait for their mother/wife to be reincarnated, which leads to the whole 'Monkey King meeting his Peaches again after hundreds of years due to MK' situation? How would that situation change with the babies being around, desperate to see their mama?
Sorry for the multiple asks! Feel free to ignore them if it's too much or uninteresting.
oh man. that'd be an awkward family reunion, considering she won't remember any of them.
also the destruction wukong would cause to the celestial realm after they murk his wife? astronomical. and his first three kids are old enough by then to join in, and they do so eagerly.
so to start, the sun kids are all basically grown by the time wukong finds mk, with seventh and eighth being around ten years old in demon age. the siblings more or less welcome the new addition with open arms, though some more than others.
mk grows up surrounded by siblings, and oddly enough, is better adjusted socially because of it? while the influence of some of them may be questionable (cough second third fifth cough), for the most part his family is his safe place. he'd probably be a smidgen less dependent on his friends because of it. he's also less defensive and scared than the version of him without siblings.
however, the subject of their mama is one that mk is woefully left out of. he never got to meet the original reader, and his siblings (except hua and chāo, who were a bit too small to remember her clearly) don't talk about her much. mk has gotten jūn and zíhào to talk about her a little bit, but da xia just gets defensive and refuses to entertain the subject. xīnyi also deflects whenever reader comes up. the only ones willing to give mk any sort of backstory are jiāo hui and xuě fēng. those two, along with hua and chāo, are his closest friends.
in the case of mk going to the human world, i imagine wukong being slightly less reluctant to let mk go, if only because he knows that jūn, jiao hui, and xuě fēng hang around the city as well, so mk would have support. wukong would still make mandatory home visits though, since he knows his kids might not be telling him the whole truth when they report on their baby brother.
as for the event of meeting reader; wukong almost cries, seeing her again. his first interaction with her new incarnation is...softer, more subdued. reader feels a little bad for him. he seems so withdrawn, he must miss his son. she's less suspicious of him because of his attitude.
wukong doesn't know what to tell his children. their mother is reborn, but she isn't their mother anymore. she won't know any of them. he doesn't want to put them through the pain of seeing her if she can't greet each of them knowing who they are.
however.
there might be a way to reawaken his wife and mother of his children. she still exists in the soul inhabiting this new body, he just needs to bring her back to the forefront of their consciousness. he'll tear apart heaven and earth looking for a way.
cue angst and fear, and a fun time for mk trying to keep reader a secret from his more volatile siblings. zíhào, da xia, and xīnyi would likely just kidnap reader for their father if they knew, thinking, similarly to him, that they can bring back the spirit of their mother.
also, macaque has been freed by now (it may or may not have been jūn and xuě fēng who removed the seal on his mountain), and is close friends with reader. in this case, jūn warns macaque of his father's plan to try and bring back the previous reader, so he has more time to plan on how he's gonna save her.
macaque has missed the smile on reader's face, her jokes, her sass...she's much like she was when they were on the journey together. he doesn't want her new, free incarnation to have to live as a prisoner to the monkey king's sick idea of love.
he failed her all those centuries ago. he won't fail her again.
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(also, the reason none of the other kids can weild a magic staff, but mk can; half humanity. at least that's what wukong figures it is. his kids are all almost as strong as him, so that can't be why they can't lift it. must be magical bullshit, he thinks.)
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Lord Krishna ॐ Talon Abraxas
Lord Krishna is one of the most popular Gods in Hinduism. Krishna is considered the supreme deity, worshipped across many traditions of Hinduism in a variety of different perspectives. Krishna is recognized as the eighth incarnation (avatar) of Lord Vishnu, and one and the same as Lord Vishnu, one of the trimurti and as the supreme god in his own right. Krishna is the principal protagonist with Arjuna in the Bhagavad Gita also known as the Song of God, which depicts the conversation between the Royal Prince Arjuna and Krishna during the great battle of Kureksetra 5000 years ago where Arjuna discovers that Krishna is God and then comprehends his nature and will for him and for mankind. In present age Krishna is one of the most widely revered and most popular of all Indian divinities.
Each incarnation of Lord Vishnu on the Earth is with a purpose and to accomplish some definite tasks. Lord Krishna came to the Earth to kill king Kansa and to relieve the people of Braj from his torture and tyranny. Later Krishna participated in the events of the Mahabharata and Lord Krishna’s participation had profound effect on the Mahabharata war and its consequences.
Names of Krishna
The name Krishna originates from the Sanskrit word Kṛṣṇa, which is primarily an adjective meaning “black”, “dark” or “dark blue”. The waning moon is called Krishna Paksha in the Vedic tradition, relating to the adjective meaning “darkening”.
As a name of Vishnu, Krishna is listed as the 57th name in the Vishnu Sahasranamam. Krishna is also known by various other names, epithets and titles, which reflect his many associations and attributes. Among the most common names are Mohan “enchanter”, Govinda, “Finder of the cows” or Gopala, “Protector of the cows”, which refer to Krishna’s childhood in Braj (in present day Uttar Pradesh). Some of the distinct names may be regionally important; for instance, Jagannatha, a popular incarnation of Puri, Odisha in eastern India.
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jokerlennon · 8 months
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loving this "eighth doctor adventures" thing this doctor guy is fascinating it's crazy that they didn't even start the books with his first face tbh... i wish there was something about his previous incarnations maybe a tv show or something idk
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cantsayidont · 9 months
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August 1984. This won't change anyone's feelings about cult movie perennial THE ADVENTURES OF BUCKAROO BANZAI: ACROSS THE EIGHTH DIMENSION one way or the other, but if you're wondering what the hell the deal is supposed to be with Buckaroo Banzai and his team, the answer is, "It's an obvious pastiche of the pulp hero Doc Savage."
Launched in 1933, Doc Savage was one of the leading adventure heroes of the pulp magazines. Doc (whose full name was Clark Savage Jr.) was scientifically trained from childhood to the peak of human perfection, singularly adept in everything from mechanical engineering to medicine to martial arts. He had a secret headquarters called the Fortress of Solitude and a whole array of specially designed vehicles and equipment, but he was also a public figure, with offices in the Empire State Building. Doc had a team of eccentric, highly specialized aides — Monk Mayfair, Ham Brooks, Renny Renwick, Long Tom Roberts, and Johnny Littlejohn — who each had a particular skill and a couple of distinctive personality traits (for instance, Monk was a skilled industrial chemist, but also an "ape-like" brute with a ferocious temper). They were sometimes aided by Doc's cousin, Pat Savage, who was almost as capable as Doc, although he tried to keep her out of the fray because she was (gasp) a girl.
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This was a fairly common pattern for pulp heroes. For instance, the pulp version of the Shadow (who was distinctly different from the radio incarnation) relied on a whole network of agents, some appearing only once or twice, some recurring across many of his published adventures. From a narrative standpoint, the agents and assistants had two principal purposes: The first was to offset the rather overpowered heroes — pulp heroes didn't necessarily have superhuman powers, but even those who didn't tended to be preternaturally skilled at nearly everything, so it was convenient to limit their direct involvement in an adventure to crucial moments, and let the assistants (who could be much more fallible) do much of the legwork. The second object was to beef up the characterization. Doc Savage was morally irreproachable as well as absurdly multi-talented, so there wasn't a lot to be done with him character-wise, while maintaining the mystique of a character like the Shadow required him to remain a fairly closed book.
Although the pulp heroes were a huge influence on early comic book superheroes like Superman and Batman, some of these conventions didn't translate well to other media: In a 13-page comic book story or half-hour radio episode, having too many characters was cumbersome (and expensive, where it meant hiring extra actors), and comic book readers normally expected to follow their four-color heroes quite closely, even before the breathless internal monologue became a genre staple. So, Superman inherited Doc Savage's Fortress of Solitude, but not his "Fabulous Five" assistants, while heroes like Batman and Captain America generally stuck with a single sidekick rather than a team of aides. Even the late Doc Savage pulp adventures (which ended in 1949) de-emphasized the assistants to keep the focus more on Doc himself. Ultimately, the pulp heroes didn't really have the right narrative center of gravity for visual media, which is why they've become relatively obscure, despite repeated revival attempts. The 1975 Doc Savage movie with Ron Ely, for instance, was a notorious commercial flop, and elements like Doc's childishly bickering assistants seemed odd and dated, even taking into account the film's nostalgia-bait '30s period setting.
What BUCKAROO BANZAI tried to do was to bring that old pulp hero formula into the modern era with a big infusion of '80s style and humor. Like Doc Savage, Buckaroo is a wildly gifted polymath (in the opening scenes, he rushes from performing brain surgery to test-driving his Jet Car through a mountain), so famous and important a personage that he puts the president of the United States on hold, and he surrounds himself with an array of brilliant, eccentric aides with silly nicknames who play in his rock band when they're not fighting crime or doing advanced scientific experiments.
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Alas, judging by the poor box office returns, general audiences were no more amenable to the '80s version of this formula than they had been to DOC SAVAGE: MAN OF BRONZE nine years earlier, even with the 1984 film's extraordinary cast and memorably witty dialogue. Granted, even many of the movie's most diehard fans are baffled by the convoluted plot — a crucial expository scene where the leader of the Black Lectroids (Rosalind Cash) explains much of what's going on is nigh-incomprehensible without subtitles or closed captioning — but beyond that, THE ADVENTURES OF BUCKAROO BANZAI is essentially an extended riff on a particular slice of pop culture that had long since dropped out of the public consciousness, which is both part of its charm and also its commercial undoing, at least as mainstream entertainment.
(Also, if you're wondering, yes, the TOM STRONG series by Alan Moore and Chris Sprouse is also an obvious Doc Savage pastiche, although at least some of its plot and character concepts were probably retoolings of unused ideas from Moore's earlier Maximum Press/Awesome Comics SUPREME series, which was an extended pastiche of the pre-Crisis Superman.)
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Aziraphale & Eddington.
Neil has confirmed us that David Tennant *actually* exists within the Good Omens universe. Thus, we may assume that the whole of his filmography, except for Good Omens, also exists. We may assume as well that Aziraphale has more or less followed Doctor Who over the decades, and that somehow, with time, the actor of his favourite doctor earned an eerie similarity to Job. But this isn't about him, right now. This is about his son in law.
I would like to think Aziraphale did enjoy the utterly handsome Eighth doctor, ending up glued to the screen and getting deeply excited about this incarnation. He probably got upset because of his only appearance on TV, but would still be delighted to see the series coming back to the BBC in 2005. The Ninth doctor may have appeared a bit tough to him at first, but there was something deeply endearing about him. Maybe it was the way he rocked that leather jacket, or his sense of humour, or his bravery, or his charming accent... He never really knew, but it was sad to say goodbye so soon again. "Who will be the new doctor?" He thought to himself. "Will they be blond? Taller? Will they wear a vest? A bowtie perhaps?". When the young man appeared on screen before Rose for the first time, Aziraphale was left completely mesmerised. The young man was... Different. He had slightly long hair and, honestly, he really liked how the leather jacket suited him too. Once the credits rolled, he found out his name: David. "Oh, that's a lovely name," he thought to himself. "That's the name of a king!".
He followed his seasons very carefully, blushing with his cheekiness, chuckling with his jokes, and loving how adventurous and fair the man was. Thanks to Crowley, he even dared to go to "the videoclub" and rent some of his earlier works. Oh, how handsome the man looked in The Last September, what a dear he was in Takin' Over the Asylum, how lovely he was in Duck Patrol, and what a cocky detective he was in Blackpool... Although, he admitted not being too focused on observing his labour as a detective there. The young man was rather handsome. Aziraphale flushed, could this be love? How silly of him! Falling in love with an actor! He was an angel! Which, inherently, also meant he was born to love. Maybe, just maybe, it wasn't something bad. It could be silly, of course, but forgivable.
One afternoon, Aziraphale went to the videoclub on his own, and found a movie he hadn't checked out yet. Einstein and Eddington, a scientific movie it was. The young man looked wonderful in those glasses and stunning sandrift linen suit. Humans may say one mustn't judge a book by its cover, but this dvd already seemed perfect for him! Thus, the angel rented it and decided to treat himself with the film. He laid on his white cream sofa, got under his soft tartan blanket, and pressed the play button. A smile came across his face when he saw the man in those light refined clothes. What a delight to the sight that was.
The angel felt it deeply when he learnt that Eddington was in love with a man he couldn't have, but his heart did not only wrench there, no. It was when he saw the man stand before the orrery when things got clearer. He had to pause the video. Aziraphale got up and sat close before the screen, brushing his fingers against the image. "Crowley..." He mumbled. The only thing in his mind was the image of the spectacular ginger angel he met, in their neat white dress, creating a whole universe in front of his eyes. The way their thin fingers moved, the eagerness in their voice, the dark greenish of their gaze, way more breathtaking than the vastness of hues of the newborn nebulae. And when the blond saw, further on, the physicist crying desperately for his vanished love in the wide green garden, his heart shattered into shards.
He would not admit it, but he did not watch the movie just once that night. Not twice either. Eddington was just like his dear boy, not specifically the angel, nor specifically the demon. It was him. With their curiosity, and their passion, and their deep care, and hunger for answers and justice. He felt warm tears threatening to fall from his eyes and his mind started wandering. Because, what if. Just, what if Crowley had ever felt like Eddington? What if he was worried that one day he would never see his angel again? What if there were feelings trapped in his chest he feared never being able to express? Would he be like the astronomer and, once again, question God for her ineffable decisions? It took Aziraphale a good while to get away from the screen, from that eerily familiar image fueling his heart. It took him days for his sorrow over the fictional Eddington's life to lighten, after being the root of many, many wondering.
The next time the angel met his partner, he was certainly still caught up in his thoughts. The demon noticed, so he decided to ask him about his series and that actor that had truly drawn his attention. He didn't really know what he saw in him, but it didn't take much to notice the pure bliss in his blue eyes when he told him about his character's adventures. The way his words flowed in excitement and his hands often moved around to help with it. The angel was finally enjoying himself in something else than books and occasional music, and seeing him so cheerful did really brighten the demon too.
"How are things going with your binge watching? Have you gotten your hands on another series, or...?"
Aziraphale slowly lifted up his head and stared nervously into Crowley's eyes. He did not know what to say, how could he put into words his worry? Even worse, how to explain where all this came from? The ginger would probably laugh. Worrying that deeply about a character? A movie character? The angel got dewy-eyed. Please no, not in front of him, not like this, he prayed. The demon frowned, he sensed there was something his beloved couldn't easily tell.
"Aziraphale? Is everything alright?" The ginger asked softly. The principality breathed deeply and finally, managed to speak, as he fiddled with his vest.
"I- I just watched a movie, a sad one I must say. It made me think." The demon hummed, and answered.
"I get it. It's understandable, and if that David guy is really that good as you say, I bet his acting can move tons of people." Aziraphale's gaze brightened, he couldn't believe what he had just heard. "I mean, I can see him being very talented. From what you've told me, the man does really have a range for acting. That's always important, to be able to adapt-."
"You really listened." Crowley was about to keep on rambling when he saw the angel in awe.
"Well, I have ears, what else am I supposed to do with them if its not listening?"
Tears fell off the angel's eyes. Crowley did not hesitate to get closer, inviting him into his arms. In a matter of seconds, the blond was in his embrace. He hugged his Angel tightly, and let him cry as much as he needed, caressing his back. He could not help but mutter in a caring tone.
"You and your stories, Angel."
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Krishna
Krishna (Krsna or Hari Krishna) is a major god of the Hindu pantheon and considered the eighth incarnation of Vishnu. He is perhaps the most popular of all the heroes of Hindu mythology. Krishna's adventures appear in the Mahabharata, Bhagavad Gita, Harivamsa, and the sacred texts known as the Puranas where he is described as the Supreme Being and creator of the universe.
The most ancient tales of Krishna in sacred texts involve his adventures with the Pandava princes whilst later, stories accumulated over the centuries which describe his eventful youth, when Krishna used his proficient weapons skills to good effect to defeat a host of fearsome enemies, demons and monsters.
Family & Adventurous Youth
According to tradition Krishna belonged to the Yadava - a pastoral race - and the god's birth is picturesquely described in the Mahabharata. One day Vishnu, the great Hindu god pulled two hairs from his own head, one white and one black. The black hair was planted into the womb of Devaki, a princess of the city of Mathura, and so Krishna was born into the Pandava family, his earthly father being Vasudeva. Unfortunately for Krishna his mother's brother, Kamsa, had been warned that Devaki's eighth child would kill him, and so Kamsa determined to murder the eighth child, a crime he had already carried out seven times before Krishna was born. Fortunately, Vasudeva took the precaution of hiding Krishna in the remote village of Vrindavana where the boy was brought up as a simple cowherd (in this guise he can be referred to as Govinda). There he spent an idyllic childhood and stirred the hearts of many gopis or herd-women with his dark good looks, playful charm, and mastery of music and dance.
Thus the story of Krishna contains a double concealment - Krishna is both a god disguised as a mortal and a prince disguised as a commoner. Accordingly, the myths contain many metaphors of disguise, such as a spark within a pile of ashes or a mighty sword in its scabbard, and these hint at Krishna's dual purpose as the punisher of human deeds but also as a bringer of enlightenment.
Krishna's foster parents at Vrindavana were Nanda and Yashoda, his sister is Subhadra, and his brother Balarama. Krishna's favourite consort was the cowherd woman Radha (or perhaps even his wife if they married in secret, as some sources claim). Tradition has it that the god actually acquired 16,108 wives and fathered 180,000 sons. Queen Rukmini, an earthly form of the goddess Lakshmi, is considered Krishna's second most favoured wife after Radha. With Rukmini, Krishna had a son, Pradyumna, and a daughter, Carumati.
Krishna was involved in many escapades in his adventurous youth. Notable amongst these are his various killings and thrashings of prominent enemies such as the ogress Putana, the giant bull danava, the giant snake Kaliya, and the king of the Hayas (horses). Also swiftly dealt with was the scheming tyrant Kamsa – after whose beheading Krishna established himself as king of Mathura. Krishna slew many demons and demon kings: Muru and his 7,000 sons, Pralamba – who Krishna beat up using only his fists, Naraka – son of the Earth and who had accumulated a harem of 16,000 captured women, and the sea-demon Pancajana who looked like a conch shell and who lost his magic shell to Krishna which the hero carried thereafter and used as a trumpet. Krishna also found time to lift the mountain Govardhana to foil a terrible deluge sent by Indra, to conquer Saubha, the floating city of the Titans (daityas), got the better of the sea-god Varuna, and even managed to steal the divine discus possessed by the fire-god Agni. Against mere mortals Krishna also wreaked havoc amongst the Gandharas, Bhojas, and Kalingas, amongst others.
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The Inspector has a history of attention-deficit disorder.
He/she tends to be distracted by shiny objects (if not sexy people).
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Doctor Who - Eighth Doctor Guide
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This incarnation first appeared in the 1996 movie ‘Doctor Who’ in which was, at the time, an attempt to bring the show back while trying to bring in American viewers. It was a total failure and the show would only come back on TV in 2005 with the new series. However, these were exciting news to the expanded universe: the Eighth Doctor opened a door to explore new and imaginative ideas in this second half of the wilderness years (as we call the show hiatus from 1989 to 2005).
Virgin Books would lose their license to Doctor Who and therefore their publication of the Seventh Doctor books, at the time the only continuation to the show we had, stopped. Instead, the Eighth Doctor Adventures were released, a book series focusing on the adventures of the Eighth Doctor with new, original companions. And, five years later, Paul McGann would once again step into the role in Big Finish.
These guides include only tv, books and audio stories, but this time only I will make an exception: we’ll include the Doctor Who Magazine Comics too. You totally should give these comics a chance for other Doctors too, but Eight is getting special treatment because the Magazine did its own thing with him just as the other media. It has four well defined narrative arcs/”seasons” and introduces their own original companion. So let’s start!
INTO THE COMICS
‘Season one’ – Adventures with Izzy
[ ] Endgame
[ ] The Keep
[ ] A Life of Matter and Death
[ ] Fire and Brimstone
[ ] By Hook or by Crook
[ ] Tooth and Claw
[ ] The Final Chapter
[ ] Wormwood
[ ] Happy Deathday
This season picks up a plot point from the Seventh Doctor DWM’s comics regarding a recurring villain, but you’ll understand it fine enough even if haven’t read what came before. This is collected as The Eighth Doctor Comics Strips volume 01, as that edition has a summary of what you need to know. Otherwise, it’s a perfect jumping point. The Doctor meets Izzy Sinclair, a young girl from Stockbridge that helps him fight the Toymaker when the elder god takes control of the town, quickstating a long road of self-discovery for Izzy.
‘Season two’ – Continued adventures with Izzy, plus Kroton
[ ] The Fallen
[ ] Unnatural Born Killers
[ ] The Road to Hell
[ ] TV Action!
[ ] The Company of Thieves
[ ] The Glorious Dead
[ ] The Autonomy Bug
This season is collected as The Eighth Doctor Comics Strips volume 02 and introduces a temporary companion I love: Kroton, the good Cybermen. It also has one of the best Master stories ever. It also features the only other proper Grace story ever since I think they just ignored the copyright issue and used her anyway.
‘Season three’ – Continued adventures with Izzy
[ ] Ophidius
[ ] Beautiful Freak
[ ] The Way of All Flesh
[ ] Children of the Revolution
[ ] Me and My Shadow
[ ] Uroboros
[ ] Oblivion
This season is collected as the Eighth Doctor Comics Strips volume 03. This season finishes Izzy’s story while also introducing the next companion, Destrii. It also has one of my favorite Daleks stories.
‘Season four’ – Solo adventures, then joined by Destrii
[ ] Where Nobody Know Your Name
[ ] The Nightmare Game
[ ] The Power of Thoueris!
[ ] The Curious Tale of Spring-Heeled Jack
[ ] The Land of Happy Endings
[ ] Bad Blood
[ ] Sins of the Father
[ ] The Flood
This season is collected as the Eighth Doctor Comics Strips volume 04. For the most part it shows the Doctor rebounding from his goodbye to Izzy (platonically, I see their relationship as paternal), kinda trying to find a new companion (he is pathetic in The Nightmare Game) and dealing with solitude. Then the story picks up when he is reunited with Destrii and they begin travelling together. It has a great Cybermen story.
INTO THE BOOKS
‘Season 01’ – Adventures with Sam
[ ] The Eight Doctors
[ ] Vampire Science
[ ] The Bodysnatchers
[ ] Genocide
[ ] War of the Daleks
[ ] Alien Bodies
The Eight Doctors is a terrible first book, just skip it and start with Vampire Science – which is much better. There is a certain character there who was supposed to be Grace but then they couldn’t use her because of copyright and I do think knowing that gives an interesting perspective to the book. Alien Bodies (great, too) starts a story arc about the War in Heaven. Or, simply put, a much more engaging time war done in the books years before the TV series ever thought about it.
‘Season 02’ – Continued adventures with Sam
[ ] Kursaal
[ ] Option Lock
[ ] Longest Day
[ ] Legacy of the Daleks
[ ] Dreamstone Moon
[ ] Seeing I
‘Season 03’ – Continued adventures with Sam
[ ] Placebo Effect
[ ] Vanderdeken’s Children
[ ] The Scarlet Empress
[ ] The Janus Conjuction
[ ] Beltempest
[ ] The Face-Eater
‘Season 04’ – Adventures with Sam and Fitz
[ ] The Taint
[ ] Demontage
[ ] Revolution Man
[ ] Dominion
[ ] Unnatural History
[ ] Autumn Mist
[ ] Interference – Book One: Shock Tactic
[ ] Interference – Book Two: The Hour of the Geek
‘Season 04’ – Adventures with Fitz and Compassion
[ ] The Blue Angel
[ ] The Taking of Planet 5
[ ] Frontier Worlds
[ ] Parallel 59
[ ] The Shadows of Avalon
[ ] The Fall of Yquatine
[ ] Coldheart
[ ] The Space Age
[ ] The Banquo Legacy
[ ] The Ancestor Cell
‘Season 05’ – Exiled on Earth
[ ] The Burning
[ ] Casualties of War
[ ] The Turing Test
[ ] Endgame
[ ] Father Time
[ ] Escape Velocity
Following the ending of The Ancestor Cell, there is this smaller story arc with the Doctor stuck on Earth for plot reasons I will not elaborate because I don’t want spoil it too much.
‘Season 06’ – Adventures with Fitz and Anji
[ ] EarthWorld
[ ] Fear Itself
[ ] Vanishing Point
[ ] Eater of Wasps
[ ] The Year of Intelligent Tigers
[ ] Dark Progeny
[ ]  The City of the Dead
[ ] Griim Reality
[ ] The Adventuress of Henrietta Street
‘Season 07’ – Continued adventures with Fitz and Anji
[ ] Mad Dogs and Englishmen
[ ] Hope
[ ] Anachrophobia
[ ] Trading Futures
[ ] The Book of the Still
[ ] The Crooked World
[ ] History 101
[ ] Camera Obscura
[ ] Time Zero
‘Season 08’ – Continued adventures with Fitz and Anji, joined by Trix
[ ] The Infinity Race
[ ] The Domino Effect
[ ] Reckless Engineering
[ ] The Last Resort
[ ] Timeless
[ ] Emotional Chemistry
[ ] Sometime Never…
‘Season 09’ – Adventures with Fitz and Trix
[ ] Halflife
[ ] The Tomorrow Windows
[ ] The Sleep of Reason
[ ] The Deadstone Memorial
[ ] To the Slaughter
[ ] The Gallifrey Chronicles
INTO THE AUDIOS – THE MAIN RANGE ERA
‘Season 01’ – Adventures with Charley
[ ] Storm Warning
[ ] The Sword of Orion
[ ] The Stones of Venice
[ ] Minuet in Hell
[ ] Solitaire
[ ] If I Should Die Before I Wake
The Eighth Doctor joined Big Finish a little bit after Doctors Five to Seven, but it was still quite early when their main releases were ‘just’ a monthly two-hour long story in the style of the classic series. We call this range of releases the Main Range. As the current Doctor at that point, having McGann back in the role was obviously a novelty and he was instantly joined by India Fisher as Charlotte Pollard, Edwardian adventurer.
Solitaire and If I Should Die Before I Wake are not main range releases but I do think they fit tonally well enough with theses stories and therefore I don’t think there is any problem listening to them here.
‘Season 02’ – Continued adventures with Charley
[ ] Invaders from Mars
[ ] The Chimes of Midnight
[ ] Seasons of Fear
[ ] Embrace the Darkness
[ ] The Time of the Daleks
[ ] Neverland
[ ] Zagreus
This finish the story arc of Charley’s life as was set up in Storm Warning. It all culminates in Zagreus, which is also a 40 years anniversary story of the series. Romana and Leela, former companions of the Fourth Doctor, reappear at the end of this arc and their interaction starts a spin-off just about them in Gallifrey – a series also called Gallifrey. I will not elaborate on it in this post, but let it be noted it happens.
‘Season 03’ – Adventures with Charley and C’rizz
[ ] Scherzo
[ ] The Creed of the Kromon
[ ] The Natural History of Fear
[ ] The Twilight Kingdom
[ ] Faith Stealer
[ ] The Last
[ ] Caerdroia
[ ] The Next Life
Also known as the Divergent Universe arc. It continues at the point Zagreus ended, with Doctor exploring a brand new universe – but there is something disturbingly wrong there. He and Charley are joined by a new companion from this universe, C’rizz.
‘Season 04’ – Adventures with Charley and C’rizz
[ ] Terror Firma
[ ] Scaredy Cat
[ ] Other Lives
[ ] Time Works
[ ] Something Inside
[ ] Memo Lane
[ ] Absolution
[ ] The Girl Who Never Was
The end of this era of Eighth Doctor audios. A goodbye to C’rizz, but a see you soon for Charley. There is a huge cliffhanger at The Girl Who Never Was that is continued on later releases – look at ‘beyond the Eighth Doctor’ if you wanna know about that, but ONLY if you are fine with being SPOILED. Again: THERE ARE SPOILERS THERE.
More from Charley and Eight
‘Season 01’ – The Further Adventures of Charlotte Pollard
[ ] The Mummy Speaks
[ ] Eclipse
[ ] The Slaying of the Writhing Mass
[ ] Heart of Orion
Specifically, this was one single released of four one-hour long stories that are set during the first story arc of Charley in the Main Range. So, certainly before Neverland but you could argue about the when specifically. I like to put it between Minuet in Hell and Invaders from Mars. But why didn’t I put it there, then? To be honest, it’s because I don’t think they fit tonally with the Main Range adventures and therefore it will break immersion if listened then. They are much, much closer to the new who style and just don’t capture the era, for me. So, listen to them as an extra to Charley story, when you miss her.
‘Season 02’ – Adventures with Charley and Audacity
[ ] The Devouring
[ ] The Great Cyber-War
[ ] Twenty-Four Doors in December
[ ] The Empty Man
[ ] Winter of the Demon
2023 saw the Doctor being joined by a new companion, lady Audacity. The first release, which included the first stories in this season, had a cliffhanger that placed them as the Doctor was still travelling with Charley, in their earlier days. So this is also a season that happens during the first story arc on the Main Range, but I wouldn’t place it there because not only it’s still happening, being published, but also because it’s better if you listen to it as its own thing already having the knowledge of how Charley’s story originally developed.
Beyond the Eighth Doctor
‘Season 01’ – Adventures with Charley
[ ] The Condemned
[ ] The Doomwood Curse
[ ] Brotherhood of the Daleks
[ ] Return of the Krotons
[ ] The Raincloud Man
[ ] Patient Zero
[ ] Paper Cuts
[ ] Blue Forgotten Planet
I already WARNED you of the SPOILERS. So, at the end of The Girl Who Never Was, the Eighth Doctor and Charley are separated. He thinks she chose of leave him, and she thinks that he is dead. She is isolated in a terrible situation and sends a distress signal, hoping that someone will rescue her. A TARDIS arrives and she thinks Eight is alive and came for her, but when she enters, she finds an unexpected face – the Sixth Doctor. And they would have a handful of adventures together, as listed here.
‘Season 02’
[ ] The Lamentation Cipher
[ ] The Shadow at the Edge of the World
[ ] The Fall of the House of Pollard
[ ] The Viryan Solution
But Charley story doesn’t end with Six. They do eventually part ways, as told in Blue Forgotten Planet, but Charley got her own spin-off that continues from there. There have been two seasons since then, but the story is unfinished: there is a third series that should be released at some point to wrap the story but we haven’t gotten any news from it for a long, long time.
‘Season 03’
[ ] Embankment Station
[ ] Ruffling
[ ] Seed of Chaos
[ ] The Destructive Quality of Life
THE CLASSICALS
‘Season 00’ – Adventures with Mary Shelley
[ ] The Company of Friends
[ ] The Silver Turk
[ ] The Witch from the Well
[ ] Army of Death
The Company of Friends is a ‘special’ Main Range release as it’s the only audio story that features the Eighth Doctor exclusive companions from other medias. It’s four half-a-hour story: the first with Benny, former companion of the Seventh Doctor. The second have Fitz and the third have Izzy. And then there is the fourth one, that shows the Eight Doctor meeting Mary Shelley. She wasn’t a companion, but would soon become one as a trilogy featuring their travels together would be released in the Main Range.
These stories happened before Eight meets Charley and honestly could be listened at any point, but I put them here, after Charley, because I do think it’s a better experience to enjoy the Eighth Doctor main range era in the order the stories were published.
INTO THE AUDIOS – THE LUCIE MILLER ERA
Beginning 2006, it all changed for Eight. His stories were probably the most popular of the Main Range – much because of the novelty of exploring the Doctor that never had anything on TV – and so he got his own range. The Main Range was now only for Doctors Five, Six and Seven, and ‘The Eighth Doctor Adventures’ began. But it was also 2006, Doctor Who was back on TV. And much because of that, this era is structured more alike to a new who season than classic.
You can jump into this era without any prior knowledge of the Eighth Doctor if you want to.
‘Season 01’ – Adventures with Lucie
[ ] Blood of the Daleks [two-parter]
[ ] Horror of Fang Rock
[ ] Immortal Beloved
[ ] Phobos
[ ] No More Lies
[ ] Human Resources [two-parter]
Notably, Horror of Glam Rock starts a ongoing arc through the seasons about Lucie’s aunt Pat.
'Extras Season’ – Continued adventures with Lucie
[ ] The Dalek Trap
[ ] The Revolution Game
[ ] The House on the Edge of Chaos
[ ] Island of the Fendahl
This was actually a release called The Further Adventures of Lucie Miller, four one-hour stories that makes a small season. It fits the tone of the era very well and it happens relatively early in her timeline, so if you want to listen to it between seasons 1 and 2, you can. The finally feature the Fendahl, a villain from Classic Who, so it’s a good idea to check out Image of the Fendahl from the Fourth Doctor era if you want more context.
‘Season 02’ – Continued adventures with Lucie
[ ] Dead London
[ ] Max Warp
[ ] Brave New Town
[ ] The Skull of Sobek
[ ] Grand Theft Cosmos
[ ] The Zygon Who Fell to Earth
[ ] Sisters of the Flame/The Vengeance of Morbius
The Zygon Who Fell to Earth is part of the aunt Pat story arc. The finale features Morbius, a villain from Classic Who, and it’s a good idea to check the Fourth Doctor story The Brain of Morbius if you want more context.
‘Season 03’ – Continued adventures with Lucie
[ ] Orbis
[ ] Hothouse
[ ] The Beast of Orlok
[ ] Wirnn Dawn
[ ] The Scapegoat
[ ] The Cannibalists
[ ] The Eight Truths/Worldwide Web
There are plenty of villains from Classic Who this season. You don’t need to watch any of their original stories to understand theses audios, and this is valid for the previous seasons too, but as I said if you want more context… You can watch The Seeds of Doom, The Ark in Space and Planet of Spiders.
‘Season 04’ – Adventures with Lucie and Tamsin
[ ] Death in Blackpool
[ ] An Earthly Child
[ ] Situation Vacant
[ ] Nervermore
[ ] The Book of Kelis
[ ] Deimos/The Resurrection of Mars
[ ] Relative Dimensions
[ ] Prisoner of the Sun
[ ] Lucie Miller/To the Death
Lucie’s era ends with a bang. Death in Blackpool is a Christmas special that wraps up the aunt Pat storyline. In An Earthly Child, the Doctor is reunited with someone from his past. Then, the rest of the season deals with Lucie and Eight’s friendship and how they are dealing with everything that happening recently, while also introducing new companion Tamsin Drew.
INTO THE AUDIOS – THE BOXSETS ERA
With the end of Lucie’s era, the publishing format shifted again. Now, the stories were released four at a time, as a boxset. These stories also build up bigger arcs, in sixteen parts, and therefore should be listened sequentially: Dark Eyes, Doom Coalition, Ravenous and Stranded. You can jump into the Eighth Doctor audios with Dark Eyes, but it’s better appreciated after listening to Lucie’s era.
‘Dark Eyes’ – Adventures with Molly and Liv
[ ] The Great War
[ ] Fugitives
[ ] Tangled Web
[ ] X and the Daleks
[ ] The Traitor
[ ] The White Room
[ ] Time’s Horizon
[ ] Eyes of the Master
[ ] The Death of Hope
[ ] The Reviled
[ ] Masterplan
[ ] Rule of the Eminence
[ ] A Life in the Day
[ ] The Monster of Montmartre
[ ] Master of the Daleks/Eye of Darkness
Liv Chenka is a character introduced in Robophobia, a Seventh Doctor story that you can listen to if you want more from her, but isn’t necessarily needed here. It’s good, though. She didn’t become a companion until reuniting with the Doctor, this time Eight, here in Dark Eyes. This season explores a temporal conflict between the Daleks, some Time Lords and an enemy from the future, the Eminence. It’s not part of the Time War, tho.
‘Doom Coalition’ – Adventures with Liv and Helen
[ ] The Eleven
[ ] The Red Lady
[ ] The Galileo Trap
[ ] The Satanic Mill
[ ] Beachhead
[ ] Scenes from her Life
[ ] The Gift
[ ] The Sonomancer
[ ] Absent Friends
[ ] The Eighth Piece/The Doomsday Chronometer
[ ] The Crucible of Souls
[ ] Ship in a Bottle
[ ] Songs of Love
[ ] The Side of Angels
[ ] Stop the Clock
Molly’s story wraps up during Dark Eyes, but Liv goes on a companion. She is then joined by Helen, introduced here in The Red Lady. This season is full of time lord political conflicts and if you have watched New Who you’ll notice River Song is a recurring character.
‘Ravenous’ – Continued adventures with Liv and Helen
[ ] Their Finest Hour
[ ] How to Make a Killing in Time Travel
[ ] World of Damnation/Sweet Salvation
[ ] Escape from Kaldor
[ ] Better Watch Out/The Fairytale of Salzburg
[ ] Seizure
[ ] Deeptime Frontier
[ ] Companion Piece
[ ] L.E.G.E.N.D.
[ ] The Odds Against
[ ] Whisper
[ ] Planet of Dust
[ ] Day of the Master
This season deals with a terrible fairy tale from the Time Lord’s past that seems to be real. Liv reunites with her sister Tula in Escape from Kaldor, and then spends one year with her before the Doctor and Helen pick her back. This is que start point to a spin-off, The Robots, which explores focusing on her and Tula during that one year. I will elaborate on it later on.
‘Stranded’ – Continued adventures with Liv and Helen, joined by Tania and Andy
[ ] Lost Property
[ ] Wild Animals
[ ] Must-See TV
[ ] Divine Intervation
[ ] Dead Time
[ ] UNIT Dating
[ ] Baker Street Irregulars
[ ] The Long Way Round
[ ] Patience
[ ] Twisted Folklore
[ ] Snow
[ ] What Just Happened
[ ] Crossed Lines
[ ] Get Andy
[ ] The Keys of Baker Street
[ ] Best Year Ever
Stranded picks up where Ravenous ended: the TARDIS have been damaged and now the Doctor, Liv and Helen are stuck for one year on Earth while it heals. And so, they start their lives in a house the Doctor used to own in Baker Street, but are met by unexpected neighbors. This season starts very slice-of-live/sitcom-like, kinda, but then evolves in a temporal conflict.
‘Season 05’ – Continued adventures with Liv and Helen
[ ] Paradox of the Daleks
[ ] The Dalby Spook
[ ] Here Lies Drax
[ ] The Love Vampires
[ ] Albie’s Angels
[ ] Birdsong
[ ] Lost Hearts
[ ] Slow Beasts
It’s the current era. Big Finish is still releasing Liv and Helen stories, but they are not the only ongoing story arc for Eight (see: Audacity; and the Time War). However, things changed a bit. They are still released in boxsets – with three one-hour stories rather than four -, but there is no sixteen-parts epic anymore. They are just standalone stories that starts where Stranded ends.
Spin-off – The Robots
[ ] The Robots of Life
[ ] The Sentient
[ ] Love Me Not
[ ] The Robots of War
[ ] Toos and Paul
[ ] Do No Harm
[ ] The Mystery of Sector 13
[ ] Circuit Breaker
[ ] A Matter of Conscience
[ ] Closed Loop
[ ] Off Grid
[ ] The Janus Deception
[ ] The Enhancement
[ ] Machines Like Us
[ ] Kaldor Nights
[ ] Force of Nature
[ ] Face to Face
[ ] The Final Hour
As I said in the Ravenous section, there is a spin-off about Liv reuniting with her sister Tula that is set during Escape form Kaldor. They are both from Kaldor, a planet from the Classic series, and to better appreciate what this spin-off is doing I recommend watching the Fourth Doctor story The Robots of Death. And, why not, listen to Robophobia, which itself is a sequel to The Robots of Death.
INTO THE AUDIOS – THE TIME WAR
And of course, we have stories with Eight set during the Time War. We can divide it into eras: the first four boxsets, when he is travelling with the new companion Bliss; and the current releases, with him travelling with Alex – listen to Lucie Miller season 4 for more context – and Cass. Yes, Cass from the Night of the Doctor. How that’s possible given the circumstances of that story have not yet been fully explained, but of course it’s safe to assume it’s the War’s fault.
‘Season 01’ – Adventures with Bliss
[ ] The Starship of Theseus
[ ] Echoes of War
[ ] The Conscript
[ ] One Life
[ ] The Lords of Terror
[ ]  Planet of the Ogrons
[ ] In the Garden of Death
[ ] Jonah
‘Season 02’ – Continued adventures with Bliss
[ ] State of Bliss
[ ] The Famished Lands
[ ] Fugitive in Time
[ ] The War Valeyard
[ ] Palindrome
[ ] Dreadshade
[ ] Restoration of the Daleks [two-parter]
The Valeyard is a villain from Classic Who. You’ll get more out of The War Valeyard with more context – so watch season 23, Trial of a Time Lord, or simply know that he is a “version” of the Doctor from the future that encapsulates everything bad and evil that exists in the Doctor.
‘Season 02’ – Adventures with Alex and Cass
[ ] Meanwhile, Elsewhere
[ ] Verpertine
[ ] Previously, Next Time [two-parter]
[ ] Nowhere, Never
[ ] The Road Untravelled
[ ] Cass-cade
[ ] Borrow or Rob
OTHERS
The stories ‘Day of the Vashta Nerada’, ‘The Sontaran Ordeal’ and ‘The Silent Priest’, all of them featuring monsters from New Who, are set during the Time War. However, the Doctor is travelling alone and they are all standalone stories.
There are plenty of ‘short trips’, short stories set in the Doctor Who universe, featuring the Eight Doctor. Both in prose and in audio. I did not include them in this guide, and they are not really essential, but they can be good. So, listen or read them if you ever miss a companion or the Eighth Doctor.
ABOUT THIS GUIDE
I will be updating the guide as new stories are released. I will also do one for each classic Doctor, at least, at some point.
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intuitive-revelations · 4 months
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Now that Shalka!Doctor has been acknowledged in the show, I am 100% back in on my old theory that he:
a) is a post War in Heaven Ninth Doctor (linking with his intended backstory with the Time Lords in the matrix),
b) is the same incarnation as the "Cabinet of Light" Doctor, with the Eighth Doctor being the one who was betrayed and shot in the back,
c) erased himself in restoring Gallifrey / splitting the timeline from the War, but due to the intricate timelines is kinda remembered by the Doctor as another life within Eight's lifetime. This is also why he shows up in With All Awry / Now or Thereabouts in the Eleven Day Empire with the post Ancestor Cell amnesiac Eighth Doctor and the post Time War Ninth Doctor.
(Weirdly this is also very similar to the recent fate of the Nicholas Briggs Doctor - what this means, I don't know. It's interesting that this may be a pattern that repeats: the Briggs!Doctor erases himself to bring back Gallifrey, the Shalka!Doctor erases himself to bring back Gallifrey... if they hadn't managed to 'trick out time' this would have been the fates of the New Who Doctors too in Day of the Doctor... erasing themselves to give their wartime incarnation a new future...)
While I'm all in that he links somehow to the post-War universe, this does leave us in an awkward position where his exact existence depends not just on exactly how that happened, but also leaves us with the question of where exactly he emerges from the whole mess.
My original interpretation was that he was simply a post Gallifrey Chronicles Ninth Doctor, who was later erased restoring Gallifrey,
But I also really like the idea that the Jacobi!Master seen in Scream of the Shalka is the "same" incarnation we meet in the Time War / Utopia, even if his history might be quite different. Compare this with the post biodata virus Fourth Doctor, who was born under very different conditions, but is still effectively the incarnation we know. While this works extremely well with the interpretation that Romana III / Trey's Gallifreys are one and the same and the War started not during the Grey Eminence erased VNAs!Romana Presidency, but the delayed BF!Romana Presidency, it does somewhat clash with my original idea.
Assuming their timelines sync up (which tbf isn't necessarily the case, especially as the War Master has been zipping his way all over the timeline - plus we have the 'child' War Master to account for) this would seemingly place the Shalka Doctor MUCH later in the timeline: nearly to the point of Night of the Doctor (or at least around the time of the current Eighth Doctor audios), with the Android Jacobi!Master still succeeding Macqueen.
But as far as we can tell, Shalka doesn't really fit with the future Doctors during the War (the ones leading up to the Relic anyway, though we may also need to note the rejected "The War" novel that would have featured COFD!Thirteen too). I guess he could emerge from one of the other(?) alternative Eights, like "Grandfather Paradox" or the Infinity Doctor? This does somewhat go against the idea of him still being part of the Doctor's history though.
Hmm....
I guess for now, my interpretation has to be that the Shalka!Doctor is indeed post-EDAs, and the Shalka!Master is a remnant of the War, from the Doctor's future, with the timelines indeed still being out of sync? This does at least continue to work well with the idea that Gallifrey is still around in the post Ancestor Cell Eighth Doctor's "present" but he's still living in the unerased War timeline - so the Shalka!Master is native to the post-War universe, but the Shalka!Doctor is not.
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gallifreyanhotfive · 1 year
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How I differentiate the different incarnations of the Doctor
First Doctor: old man goes around kidnapping teachers and getting into fisticuffs
Second Doctor: funny guy has the hots for a Scotsman
Third Doctor: gay fashion icon likes science and martial arts
Fourth Doctor: yep that's an eldritch horror
Fifth Doctor: single father struggles to make queer children get along, falls on the ground several times while trying
Sixth Doctor: gay pride flag is a bastard to people as a self defense mechanism but actually cares a lot
Seventh Doctor: man commits atrocities while teaching young women life lessons
Eighth Doctor: constantly having the worst day of his life, but at least he probably won't remember it!
War Doctor: older man becomes more and more tired of being alive
Ninth Doctor: sir please save some PTSD for the rest of us
Tenth Doctor: gradual moral degeneration combined with constantly remembering past trauma
Eleventh Doctor: baby eldritch abomination really shouldn't travel without his parents
Twelfth Doctor: badass communist rockstar says fuck the police
Thirteenth Doctor: covers up trauma with dinosaur bandaids they give out to children
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Uh, no. Don't even try that. The Doctor has seen Susan again. It happened a few times. He met her in his first incarnation after leaving her in the 22nd century in "The Five Doctors". He would remember that. And the Eighth Doctor met her several times, even getting his great-grandson Alex Campbell killed. The War Doctor apparently meets her in an upcoming story. And yes, by the Fifteenth Doctor's time, he has had children, which was in his past. It happened. They've probably all died, except for Jenny.
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adventure-showdown · 10 months
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TOURNAMENT MASTERPOST
synopses and propaganda under the cut
Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways
Synopsis
Separated and with no TARDIS, the Ninth Doctor, Rose, and Jack have to fight for their lives on board the Game Station, but a far more dangerous threat is lurking, just out of sight. The Doctor realises that the entire human race has been blinded to the threat on its doorstep, and Armageddon is fast approaching.
Propaganda no propaganda submitted
Night of the Doctor
Synopsis
Still trying to skirt around the edges of the Last Great Time War, the Eighth Doctor is forced to fully join the conflict by the mysterious Sisterhood of Karn. Killed while trying to save a woman who hates him simply for being a Time Lord, the Doctor gets to choose what his next incarnation will be like. He arranges for a warrior... but makes the darkest sacrifice of his life in order to be reborn.
Propaganda
We get to see eight regenerate, he got like five more minutes of screen time, what more could you ask for (anonymous)
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