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scarletwandas · 7 months
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𝐇𝐚𝐩𝐩𝐲 𝐈𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐧𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐚𝐥 𝐖𝐨𝐦𝐞𝐧'𝐬 𝐃𝐚𝐲! ft. women of The Vampire Diaries Universe
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fandoms--fluff · 6 months
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Crushing Hard
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Hybrid female reader x Hope Mikaelson (+mikaelson family & caroline)
Summary: Hope has a massive crush on you, a girl who basically nobody knows anything about. And her family comes for a surprise visit, yay.
Warnings: swearing
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Hope has been a little obsessed with you, she admits it. She can't help but be attracted to you, you're crazy hot, not afraid to speak what you think, and your personality is amazing. And has she mentioned how drop-dead gorgeous you are?
The only setback is that you hate the school and basically everyone in it.
"You're drooling" Josie whispers into her ear. Hope snaps out of it, and brings a hand up to the corner of her mouth to find out it's completely dry. She rolls her eyes and looks up at Josie, frowning.
"Oh, you're crushing hard. Sorry for interrupting your daydream, but I'm pretty sure your family is here," Josie tells her, looking between Hope and some of her family.
"There are a bunch of newer kids this year, but still a lot of the older ones. I try to make the environment around here fully positive and happy." Caroline explains to the family. An amused snort comes from the couch a couple feet away.
"And you don't ever take a break" You glare at her. All their heads turn towards you. "This is y/n, one of the older students. I believe she came here a couple months before Hope did." Caroline sighs.
"You must be delusional because I did not come here willingly. You forced me. And still force me to be here every fucking day of the year" You stand up, crossing your arms, fury evident in your tons and stance.
"Werewolf?" Kol's the next one to speak. "I don't know, what do you think?" You snap at him before turning back to Caroline. "And that's the other thing, I've been here for how many years, and no one still knows what I am"
"You won't tell us" Caroline points out.
"Well, I would think considering you're apparently an expert on supernatural beings, and run a damn school for them, that you or anyone here would be able to tell like that" You snap your fingers at the end.
Klaus steps forward, not liking the way you've been talking to Caroline. "Oh, don't even start" You roll your eyes before he can get a word out.
"What?" Hope snaps her attention to her friend before looking in the direction Josie was a moment ago. To her surprise, her Dad, Mom, Auntie Rebekah, Uncle Kol, and Uncle Elijah are standing across the room, chatting with the headmistress, Caroline and you?
Oh no, Hope thinks to herself before getting out of her seat and quickly walking toward the group with Josie right behind her.
"Dad! What are you guys doing here?" Hope goes up to her father. "We came here for a surprise visit, but caught up in the wonderland tour," Kol told his niece, glancing at Caroline then at you.
You still have your arms crossed, leaning most of your weight on your right leg, making your left hip slightly pop out a bit more than the other.
Hope tries to keep her eyes off of you, not wanting her family or you to notice.
"Oh, nothing. Having a splendid fucking time!" You tell her in a fake cheery voice. You start walking away, "I like your shoes" you tell Rebekah before walking out of the room, your high heels clicking strongly as you do.
"She's mean..but sweet? I don't know" Caroline shakes her head. "She's like Katherine. I like her" Kol answers, smirking.
"Kol." Elijah says sternly to his little brother as Klaus galres at him.
Hope just stares at the ground, not wanting anyone to notice the flush that appeared on her face. "You okay Sweetie?" Her Mom asks. "Mhm. Uh I'm glad that you guys are here, but Josie and I have to finish a project. I'll, uh, catch up with you later" Hope tells them quickly before practically dragging Josie out of the room with her.
"What was that?" Josie asks her as Hope paces around Josie's room. Lizzie is planning a dance somewhere outside with a huge binder.
"I don't know, but now im pretty sure my family kost likely doesn't like Y/n. And if somehow my delusional relationship with her actually freaking happens then there's no point becuase there's a big chance my dad will get protective and ban her or kill her or something. Wait can she even die? I don't know, there's no way she can't die, right? Oh that would suck I'd she died before I can even make a move, or who am I kidding there's no way that's gonna happen. She probably hates me anyways. God, I'm so pathetic" Hope rants to her best friend.
"Okay, okay, calm down. You're not pathetic. You're just overthinking this way too much. There's no way Y/n hates you, I don't believe she does" Josie places her hands on Hope's shoulders, making her stop moving around.
Hope let's out a breath she didn't know she was holding in, then sighs, "I'm sorry."
"Nothing to be sorry for" Josie smiles.
You walk into the dining hall, only to be met with the same group of people. "Fucking great" you practically growl, rolling your eyes. You go over to the table lined with food and grabbed a piece of garlic bread.
As you're about to take a bite of it, a voice sounds. "Are you sure you're supposed to be eating that? It says no one is to touch the food" Elijah nods to the sign standing before the long table of food.
You glance at it then shrug, "Well too bad, I'm hungry and they don't exactly have any blood beside from fucking Thumper and Bambi" you take a bite of the garlic bread.
"So you're a vampire" Rebekah says. You twitch your eyebrow up, a smirk playing at your lips.
"Depends how you perceive it" you walk over to them, your eyes turning yellow and veins appearing under your eyes.
"A hybrid" Hayley's eyes widened a bit. "Did Hope turn you?" Klaus asks, not remembering himself ever turning you.
"Seriously? You think I'd let a girl who has a crush on me, sire me? I don't think so" you cross your arms.
"Crush?" Kol asks, knowing Hope has only told him about her crush on you. He wonders how you found out, cause there's no way his neice would've told you. Especially considering the interaction earlier today.
"Not that hard to figure out. Especially when her eyes are always on me, not the chalkboard in class" you cross your arms. "Oh, and Katherine was basically my sister, so that was a compliment back there" you smirk.
"Wait, if you're that old, what are you doing here?" Hayley asks.
"Well I'm pretty sure then Caroline would hate me more than she already does, then tell Damon and he would try to kill me, but it would end up with his head cut off his body and then Elena and everyone, and personally I don't have any fucking time or want for that. Though Damon being dead would be a bonus. So mind as well make some people, aka, Caroline miserable for a bit" you pop the rest of the garlic bread in your mouth.
"What? You still have that sappy crush on her?" You tease Klaus.
You turn around and walk out of the room. As you turn the corner, you run into Hope. She looks if you had a word, sheepish.
You sigh, realizing it, "You've been here the whole time, haven't ya?" You crossed your arms.
"Uh, yeah. Sorry," She turned before walking as fast as she could away from you. She had come down here to find her family, and instead heard you talking to them again and couldn't help but eavesdrop on the conversation.
She can't believe she's been so stupid. There's no way she's ever had any chance with you. And your acknowledging about her crush on you was just the cherry on top. She wishes she was anywhere but here now.
You look up, quietly groaning, not wanting her to find out like that. Both your age (well, sort of) and the knowledge of her crush.
You vamp in front of her in a split time of two seconds. "Look, I get it, I'm just some stupid girl who has a crush on a girl or woman I don't know! who's way out of my league. No need to rub it in my face!" She exclaims, trying not to let any tears cloud her vision.
"Hey! You're not some stupid girl, okay?" You tell her before she tries to walk away from you again. She lets out a harsh breath before looking up at you from the ground.
"And I'm not trying to rub anything in your face. Yes, I know you have a crush on me, but I don't want you to think anything bad about that. I'd never use it against you or make fun of you for it, or whatever you think I may do." You run your hands through your hair to keep it out of your face.
"And I've never thought about you in that way before, but I can say that I don't hate you as much as everyone else here," She snaps her gaze from the wall to your face, not expecting that. To have that said to her from you is basically like a simple 'I love you' to someone a person may have known for a while. It's also a really big compliment coming from you.
"So there's that" You walk closer to her before pressing a kiss on her cheek. You walk away, up the stairs to your room as Hope stands there frozen. That's one of the best solutions that could have happened at the moment, and she's practically screaming with joy on the inside.
She brings a hand up to the cheek you kissed and gently grazes her finger against the spot.
Her family then also comes down the hallway and up to her. "What happened, Sweetie?" Her mom asks, noticing her reddened face.
"Oh, n-nothing," She tells her, trying her best to hold back the grin that she has on the inside.
Kol looks from her hand placement and reddened face to her excited stance, putting two and two together. He catches her eye and smirks before mouthing 'good luck'.
That just makes her blush more than she already is if that's even possible.
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hyperactivewhore · 1 year
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Some people have this weird fixation about making Klaus choose Caroline over Hope, especially in fanfics. I’ve seen fics where Klaus abandons Hope, or kills Hayley for disrespecting Caroline, or just ignores Hope in favor of Caroline. Like some people forget Hope’s his daughter - of course, he’s going to choose her over everyone. I think any decent parent would choose their child over a potential girlfriend/boyfriend. And Hayley is Hope’s mom, a very important person in her life. I don’t think Klaus would kill Hayley unless she posed a threat to Hope or if she tried to take Hope away from him. Honestly, I don’t think he would even tolerate people openly disrespecting Hayley in front of Hope, regardless of who it was.
Another thing that I’ve noticed is how people are so determined to make Klaus a father figure to the twins, particularly Lizzie. I’ve read a fic in which Klaus clearly and openly favored Lizzie over his own daughter - which would never happen. I think that if Klaus and Caroline actually did end up together, he still wouldn’t be that present in the twins lives. Since he is overprotective to the extreme, I think that he would hold some resentment over how the twins treated Hope in their younger years. He’s petty enough to hold a grudge against a kid. And anyway, I don’t ever see Alaric allowing Lizzie or Josie to get close to Klaus, no matter what Caroline says.
I don’t know… it’s just weird that people keep diminishing Hope’s relationship with her own father to benefit their ship. Sorry for the rambling.
People fail to remember that Klaus is his own person and not an extension of the ships they like, and that ship half of the time is klaroline because they are obssesed with making him her personal puppy, as if that ever happened in canon.
Granted, Klaus said a few nice things to her and did like two good things to make Caroline not feel so guilty about wanting to fuck him, but other than that there's no way he would ever seriously chose her over his family, especially his own daughter. He chose to save her over Rebekah back in Mystic Falls because his sister is immortal, Caroline isn't.
I've never actually read long klaroline/klamille/klayley fanfiction. Sure, I use to read some oneshots from time to time because they have really good writing, but this fanfics I'll talk about best used to show up while I was in the klaus or mikaelson tag and I used to take a look because I was curious. It has some wild elements, that's for sure.
I've seen a lot of fanfics where they make Caroline some weird ass hybrid/tribrid that manages to be a werewolf, witch and vampire all in one and it's like wtf. They complain constantly about Hope's existence because she breaks canon and yet they make this baby vampire the biggest Mary Sue ever. Yes, the producers created Hope because they wanted to create their own magical baby like Renaissance from Twilight, but they make a fool of themselves by making Caroline be anything but a vampire. Caroline was incredibly mean and a complete hypocrite as a human and don't bring me the "she was insecure and always in Elena's shadow" because I'm insecure too and that doesn't make me be a bitch to the people who love me. Klaus was always threatening her whenever she spoke in a way he didn't like, and that was when she was already the "sunshine vampire" people claim to love so badly, so people who think he would even let her live if he met her as a human are laughable.
Klaroline shippers are so pressed about Hayley being Hope's mother, I can't even tell you how many posts, videos and weird fanfics I've seen of Caroline being her mother and being the "Mikaelson's light". I've said it a lot of times, but the Mikaelson wouldn't like Caroline at all: Rebekah and Hayley were constantly slutshamed by her, Elijah hates people who insult/hurt his family, Kol was literally killed by one of her best friends and he would not be okay with that, Finn couldn't care less and Freya probably just heard bad things from her, if she even knew about her existence. And in top of that, Caroline literally threw a party when she thought Klaus died.
When they have any Mikaelson or Klaus, especially Klaus, kill Hayley, I just lose it. Why the hell would Klaus ever do that? He literally lost his mind when she died, he was a mess and they don't even want to admit he loved Hayley: new flash, he did. She was his family, the mother of his daughter, probably his best and only friend and he loved her. Not in a romantic way, but they still get pressed because how dare Klaus have feelings for anyone other than their queen Caroline.
Also, their obsession with making Caroline be called queen? It's creepy and weird, it must be really annoying for them that Klaus only called Cami and Hayley a queen. Those two girls were a thousand times closer to be considered family by him than Caroline ever could, and his siblings did care for those women too.
This reminds me of a really good point in klaroline fics: if Caroline is the one pregnant with Hope, Klaus will react a lot better. I just can't see this, Klaus’s daddy issues are literally the main point of his character. He hated Mikael as much as he desired his love, he always yearned for one of his parents to care and no one did: Mikael, because he was a piece of shit, Esther, because she was terrified of her husband and there's literally no other reason in canon that explains why she allowed Mikael's abuse and Ansel, because he was forced to stay away and was killed twice. That isn't gonna change just because he got Caroline, sorry to tell you.
I can see him reacting less murderer and less threatening. Alkaline covers this so well and it's one of my favorite Klaus fanfics, if he has a romantic relationship with the woman he got pregnant he wouldn't tell the witches to kill her and their baby, but I do think he would still think at first she cheated, not only because of his paranoia but also because he is supposedly incapable of having kids.
The whole Lizzie and Josie thing is really a good point! I agree, Klaus would never favor the twins over Hope or even Marcel. Those are his kids, he raised them and he never met Josie and Lizzie until they were like what, twelve? Thirteen? He even said people needed to ask him permission to even talk to Hope, he would 100% hold a grudge against the Saltzman twins for being mean to his daughter. I also think that the whole "Klaus would like Lizzie more than Josie" is because physically and in terms of personality, Lizzie is the one that resembles Caroline the most. So when writers have him openly prefer Lizzie isn't only weird, it has some uncomfortable pedophilic vibes.
I've only seen klaroline and some klayley shippers say that about klope, how he would love x girl more than Hope and etc. I hardly doubt they even remember canon Klaus, just their fanfic version because if Klaus ever had to chose he would always chose his daughter. I've also seen, in a lot of fanfics, not only klaroline ones, how Klaus would love more or completely ignore his oc kid (they also have Hope he a complete bitch from the start, even if it's her seven years old version) and it's just strange. There are a lot of reasons why Klaus and Marcel didn't have a stable relationship, mainly all the bad blood between them and the fact that Marcel was already grown up by the time they met, but he never hesitated to put himself in danger for him. Klaus even refused to kill him, knowing he was endangering Hope. I just can't see him ignoring his kid, especially if he got to actually see him/her grow up.
This is not bashing to the writers btw! Sorry if it came out like that.
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iamyouknow-yours · 11 months
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Marcel is a Mikaelson. He does not have to call himself a Mikaelson as he is fully within his rights to denounce the very toxic family but he is one.
I hate the way the show treated him, I hate the way the characters treated him, and I hate that he is involved with Rebekah. I hate the way he and Hope are only kinda sorta siblings.
1. The show:
So we know Julie Plec is very much a white liberal. We know this. We know she has sexism issues, we know she has racism issues (black women will save us all, really Julie????). I don't know which of her multitude of biases made her (and the rest of the writers) think that the way they wrote Marcel and the Mikaelson's relationships with him, was normal (or like normal in the context of the show). But boy howdy.
The plantation house. We're just going to have the Mikaelsons move into the house where Marcel was owned as a slave????? That's what we're gonna do?????? And where his abusive biological father lived and y'know, abused him. Fucking what the fuck?? I feel like this just epitomises the way the show treats Marcel.
2. The characters:
The family never treats him as part of the family unless they want something from him.
They did not raise him as a son and it is weird and terrible and he was a child!!!!! Why did you adopt him if you didn't want a child???
Why is Klaus so scared of having Hope if he's already had a child?
Why does Klaus treat Marcel the exact same way Mikael treated him just because they're not blood related?? (if they actually explored this it could have been interesting but no they just only half treat Marcel as a Mikaelson).
YOU'RE TELLING ME THEY DIDN'T CHECK?? THEY DIDN'T CHECK HE WAS DEAD????? Not once in the 80+ years did Klaus or Elijah go back to New Orleans or even send someone to fucking check that his SON was really dead??? Didn't think to do that???? No???
3. Rebekah:
Oh my god what do I even say about Rebekah?
They could have at least made her be daggered for the time when he was a child and only meet him when he was already an adult and a vampire because that way she's only technically his aunt and not a full fucking adult who saw him grow up!!!!!!!!
Hope:
Idk man, they were siblings. Let them be siblings. The whole thing in Legacies where the Mikaelsons just kind of left Hope alone? Weird. Bonkers. Batshit. I know it's because they couldn't get the actors but maybe think about that before writing your fucking show my guy.
Or in TO where Hope was just left alone and Klaus was not there as a dad for like 5(?) years.
Hayley was the only good parent on The Originals or Legacies canon, fight me.
(side note, you're telling me Caroline would leave Alaric, Alaric, an alcoholic, vampire-hating, weirdo (Caroline and Alaric being romantically involved briefly WAS WEIRD GUYS, WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK HE USED TO BE HER FUCKING TEACHER) in charge of the school for supernatural children??
You're telling me she left him in charge of parenting Lizzie and Josie?? Yeah okay sure.
And look how well that turned out. Locking teenagers in goddamn prison worlds, excellent headmastering there Alaric well done. And just swell parenting of the twins. Favouring Hope over them at all times and letting them bully each other weirdly for years and allowing your mentally ill children to just get more mentally ill from your parenting. Great moves. Very good.
Okay Legacies rant over)
Yeah okay my whole rant is over I think.
TL;DR: Marcel deserved better.
(and so did the kids on Legacies.)
Also PSA, the only reason I have so many feelings about this is because I like the freaking shows okay? I like the characters (except Alaric and Damon and the ones we're supposed to dislike like Mikael and Esther).
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countrymusiclover · 25 days
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61 - Leaving Worries Behind
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Part 62
Family is More than Blood
@melvia-ito @vavafaure1994 @kmc1989 @tallrock35
“You guys know why we’re here?” Alaric, Caroline, Lizzie, Josie and I all walked up to the armory doors that were currently locked by magic. Jacob was watching my kids and Andrea back at the house. “Because there’s something inside this building that is really important that we need. The only problem is these doors are locked. So we’re gonna need your help to open them.”
Caroline was bent down to be eye level with her two daughters and Alaric was standing on the other side. “You wanna know something cool. You two are special because you two are the keys. Let’s play a game. Everyone put one hand on the door.”
“Oh yeah. There’s definitely magic inside there.” I gasped with my hand turning red, beginning to siphon some of it already off the door.
Caroline gave me a half look shifting her attention back to her daughters. “Remember Amy’s birthday party. I took away your goody bags and what happened?”
“I hurt you.” Lizzie replied.
She nodded, blinking through some tears. “Yes, because I took something from you. Now would you feel if someone tried to take me away from you?”
“Mad.” Josie answered.
“Sad.” Lizzie added on.
She gave them a weak smile while I stood over the two young girls standing in front of my knees. “Yeah me too. And if we don’t get inside of here. That might happen. I might never be able to see you, hug you or tuck you in at night.”
“They’re doing it. They’re siphoning.” I whispered to her and Alaric seeing their tiny hands turning red and I felt most of the siphon magic being taken out of my reach before the twins gasped stepping away from the door slightly exhausted.
Alaric picked up Josie in his arms and Caroline had Lizzie when they got up from the ground and walked inside until Caroline saw me standing in the doorway with some tears welling in my eyes. “Raelyn, what’s got you upset?”
“I can’t help but think I should have done better when I had the Coven leader magic inside my veins. I should have gotten some of Jo’s blood before she died and saved them from the Merge.”
She sent me a gentle smile knowing how I felt about her daughters having to still do the merge when they turned 22. “You did what you could for your own kids at the time. Besides, nobody knew Jo was pregnant at the time.”
“I know. I just-“
She switched Lizzie onto one arm touching my shoulder with her freehand. “Don’t feel too guilty. You did the best you could. Plus I know you’ll do whatever you can now to keep them safe.” I sent her a smile watching the blonde vampire walk inside the armory and I vamped after her knowing she was always right about that.
The car we were in quickly drove past the New Orleans road sign. Nik and I were debating on taking some time for ourselves given how things were going so well back home. Sitting in the passenger seat eyeing my husband from the corner of my eye. “What’s that smirk for, Nik?”
“I think I should be asking what is running through that beautiful head of yours. I know you’re still thinking about the school and everything. So tell me, love. What are you thinking?” Klaus glanced in my direction with a smile on his face.
Running my hands through my hair I dropped them down into my lap. “Okay so hear me out on this. But I’ve been thinking since everything we’ve changed at the school has been working, why not create another one with the same layout. Like a European branch possibly.”
“I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. You are brilliant, Rae Rae.” He moved one hand over resting it on my thigh sending me a cheeky grin. “So where do you want to go first on our little getaway trip?”
Placing my hand over his on my knee. “I don’t know, Klaus. You’ve been everywhere in the world compared to me.”
“Well there’s England, Hawaii, Barcelona, Greece or even Japan.”
I giggled blushing at my hybrid husband. “Klaus, stop. You spoil me too much.”
“I have no issue with doing so - why’s Elizabeth calling you?” He smirked fondly at me.
My phone began ringing where I saw it was a video call from Lizzie and Josie who I had asked to pick Henrik up from Mystic High while we were out of town. Josie scolded her sister who was driving Daemon’s old car they had gotten for their sixteen birthday. “Aunt Raelyn, I can’t believe she is calling you about this. It really isn’t her business when she’s out of town.”
“That’s exactly why she needs to know so she’s not shocked later on.” Lizzie looked over at her sister before she flipped the video around showing me a girl with her Raven black talking with son a few feet in front of them outside the school doors. “Do you see what I’m talking about now, Auntie Rae!”
Klaus briefly took his attention off the road. “What is Elizabeth freaking out about this time?”
“Is that Stefanie Salvatore?”
Lizzie flipped the video screen back on herself. “Yes, it is! When I knew he was dating a human I never thought it would be Damon and Elena’s freaking daughter.”
“If that girl breaks his heart I will boil her bones.” Klaus growled under his breath tightly clutching the steering wheel in his hands.
Rolling my eyes I knew his protective side would never go away no matter how old the kids came to be compared to our ages as vampires. “I appreciate your concern, Lizzie. But I’m sure everything will be fine between them. I know Elena means well and she makes Damon’s good side come out. So their daughter will be their goodness combined together.”
“That’s what I was trying to tell her but she wouldn’t listen to me and called you and ignored my thoughts.” Josie pushed her body into her sister’s side so she could be seen on the video call with her.
Lizzie gasped at her sister until I waved bye to them, seeing we were getting closer to the airport and they needed to get back to helping people at the school. “Okay girls as much as I would love to continue this conversation I have to go. So do me a favor and take good care of the school for us till we get back.”
“Where are you two going? I thought you were coming back home.” Josie tilted her head to the side.
I shrugged my shoulders, waving bye quickly before they could say anything more to me or my husband. “We’re taking some time away from the school - oh I’m sorry we’re at the airport gotta go.”
“Aunt Raelyn-“ Lizzie got cut off when I hit the end call button.
Klaus chuckled, shifting his gaze over to me. “Luckily they won’t stay mad at you for long.” I nodded my head in agreement sliding my phone back inside my jacket and just looking out at the road ahead of us, enjoying that we were taking a break.
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melxhunter · 1 year
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In a relationship <<<<<< in love with fictional characters
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heartcutie212-blog · 7 months
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Does anyone know of any Vampire diaries Fanfics with a supernatural broker like someone to procure objects like daylight rings, moonlight rings, etc?
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darkphoenix180 · 1 month
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lesbiansaltzman · 1 year
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TVDU SHIP BRACKET
ROUND 3, BATTLE 56: Steroline VS Hosie
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Caroline: Nice work, Hope.
Hope: Thanks mom.
Super Squad: *staring at Hope* 😳
Hope: …The last person still staring at me is going to lose a limb. 
Kaleb: You just called Caroline mom. You said ‘thanks mom’
Hope: What? No I didn’t. I said ma’am. I said ‘thanks ma’am’ 
Caroline: Do you see me as a mother figure Hope?
Hope: No. If anything I see you as a bother figure. Because you’re always bothering me.
Penelope: Hope! Show your mother some respect!
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deafchild2000 · 2 years
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We were robbed of a Tyler Lockwood/Lizzie Saltzman relationship
Let's be honest here: if Julie Plec wasn't an idiot - and Caroline's pregnancy still happened - there is NO way Tyler wouldn't have been something to Lizzie and Josie's lives.
Now, I get it. People grow apart, relationships change, and we can all agree (especially his stans) that Tyler Lockwood needed to get his ass out of Mystic Falls! But let's be honest, while Tyler may have moved on from Caroline - it shouldn't mean he didn't have some relationship with her kids.
What do I mean? Case in point: Tyler knew or had some relationship with the Gemini Coven and its prominent family, the Parkers. He faced the Travelers, the Gemini's enemies, and saved Liz Forbes (Lizzie's surrogate grandmother & namesakes) from being possessed by a Traveler at the cost of being possessed himself. Not to mention, he knew about the Merge and protected his deceased then-girlfriend (Lizzie and Josie's aunt Olivia) from her coven and helped her grief when her twin brother, Lukas, died in the Merge with Kai to protect Jo. And as he worked with the Armory, he probably knew a lot more stuff.
In essence, Tyler had a good chunk of personal history he could have shared with the twins.
Furthermore, if you look at Legacies as a whole, Lizzie had gone through a lot of things Tyler went through:
Heightened emotions & prone to anger - Bipolar Disorder and Anger Issues
Felt unloved and/or betrayed by their fathers - Alaric Saltzman & Richard Lockwood
Used or disrespected by loved ones
Former bullies turned friends with their victims
Misunderstood with few willing to see past their personas - MG & Matt/Jeremy
Popular students in school
More than willing to get involved in school activities
Loyal to their loved ones and friends
Always trying to change and be better people
Unhealthy coping methods - Sex, drinking, and breaking things (interchangeably)
Undeniable love/appreciation for Caroline
Taken advantage by vampires/adults older than them (for Tyler, Klaus, and Kelly Donovan - for Lizzie, Sebastian)
Willingness to do anything and risk their lives for their friends
Easily accepted their Hybrid statuses despite the circumstances of their transitions
Been sire-bonded to a Mikaelson (Klaus/Hope)
(Above) Broken free from their sire bond (Klaus/Hope)
Sought out to get justice for their hurt/dead parent (again by Klaus/Hope)
Learned to move on passed revenge
There's a lot more if you keep digging, but it says a lot about how similar they are. And while Lizzie did get the better end of the stick with Hope, it says so much just how much Lizzie has gone through and - if done right - how much Tyler could have been an important figure to her, helping her work through her darker moments because HE'S BEEN THERE!
(And let's be honest: Tyler survived casual abuse and manipulation from Richard Lockwood, shadiness from his Uncle Mason, and slavery from KLAUS MIKAELSON! With all that and his ability to see the truth - you know he would be a foot away from beating Alaric's ass for being a shitty parent. Like Lizzie, they had also been through similar events, and Tyler would call out Alaric's BS parenting!)
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tvdupolls · 5 months
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darlingmurdock · 1 year
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unpopular opinion but i think at the end of caroline’s journey, she should have became human…. and i know it sounds odd but it makes sense in my mind ?
i honestly think caroline completely thrived as vampire but inside her heart when she became a mother; is when she would have been better as human!
vampire taught her about her own skin and being her own person but being mother taught her how short life is and for me that is when being human would have been better for her !
when lizzie became heretic is good for her but there is still that pain knowing josie won’t choose that type of life (i don’t see josie choosing to be vampire tbh) anyways then everyone she knows is growing old or they are either dead…
her mother, stefan, tyler (we can not lie she cared for him after everything they been through they stayed as friends) then enzo and klaus are all gone….
bonnie, elena, damon, matt are all growing old !!
she is always been attached to her humanity but is no lie she gets that from being protective over the people she loves the most !!
i feel like if caroline did go back time with her girls somehow she would have stayed human and moved far way living the calm life of morality with them.
maybe even marrying someone and having her own kids while growing old and being content with her life…
idk that’s just my opinion what do you all think?
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hyperactivewhore · 1 year
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It's 2023 and people still believe Klaus loved anyone more than Hope, aka the one person who made him feel unconditional love and is canonically, said by him, a lot of characters and the producers, the person he loved and cared the most about.
Is the same with Hayley towards Hope, and Caroline towards the twins.
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iwasborn-tobeblue · 2 years
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Multifemale - I am your mother first
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countrymusiclover · 4 months
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54 - Start Thinking With Your Head
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Part 55
Family is More than Blood
@melvia-ito @vavafaure1994
Alina’s pov
Sitting in the corner of the living room coach in the school building. I set down on the furniture with my arms crossed over my chest in a huff. “Lina, please talk to me. Say something to me.”
“What do you want me to say, dad?” 
He stood across the room from me staring at me. We hadn’t talked since the incident between my mother and what she nearly did to me and Jackson. “Anything is better than this dreadful silence.” 
“You want to say something about the fact that you let someone else take over my mothers body and allowed her to nearly torture me and my husband.” 
He slumped his shoulders. “It wasn’t on purpose, sweetheart.” 
“No it just means you were letting your cock think instead of your heart!” I snapped back at him, flashing my werewolf eyes. 
He pointed his index finger at me. “Don’t use that tone with me!”
“Are you afraid that someone else is going to challenge you? That someone finally has the guts to tell you that you let your own children be hurt specifically by their own mother.” 
My father vamped forward but I didn’t get out of the chair I was sitting in. “I am your father. You will not speak to me in that way.” 
“One of us needs to be clearly because you aren’t seeing the signs right in front of you. Our mother is being suffocated by her own dark side.” 
Covering my face with my hands I grumbled. “I have no clue how we can fix this.” 
Footsteps came down the staircase where we turned our heads seeing Lizzie holding the crystal prism that would show a subconscious version of yourself. “This isn't anything like defeating the Hollow, Uncle Klaus.” 
“I'm aware, Elizabeth. So give me a solution to bring her back.” 
Pushing myself up from the chair stomping past my father. “Actually dad I think it’s best if you remain out of this unless we absolutely need you.” 
“What!” He flashed his wolf eyes at me. 
“Dad, I know you're upset but it makes the most sense. You are emotionally attracted and you already let this dark magic twist her mind. You were supposed to be the stronger one and be there for her. Help her fight her demons, but that isn’t the case. If we want our real mother back we have to refuse your help.” 
“Alina! You can't do this-”
“Ossox.” My father attempted to move forward, clearly angry about what I was saying to him but I cut him off, flicking my wrist conjuring a spell to knock him out on the floor. 
His body collapsed onto the wooden floor at our feet seconds before we heard someone else coming up behind us. “Okay I found Andrea, Hope and Missy.” 
“What do we do about him?” Lizzie tilted her head to my fathers body.  
Josie answered, holding a spell book underneath her left arm. “Dad said he’d watch him and make sure he doesn’t do anything if he wakes up.” 
“Okay then let’s get this thing started before we lose my mother to her dark self.” I declared knowing we would soon run out of time to save my mothers life for the second time. 
The three of us returned back to the mansion seeing that aunt Freya standing in the middle of the empty living room. My mothers unconscious body was laying at her feet. Her arms, legs and hair all sprawled out in different directions. “There you three are. We are just waiting for the others to get here.” 
“What about the rest of my aunts and uncles? Are they still in town until we sort this out?” I questioned seeing it was just her there which was odd since dad had mentioned that the rest of his family had come out of concern for her. 
She responded simply. “I told them that there wasn’t much they could do. But your auntie Bex informed me that they were all just a phone call away.” 
Lizzie and Josie moved away from me forming a circle of candles around my mother. Josie laid the book she carried in down on the nearest table. “Did she text back that she was on her way?” 
“She?” I knitted my brows together hearing the front door handle rattling until it opened and some black heels stepped inside the mansion. 
“Long time no see, little Alina.” 
I grinned walking over to the blonde vampire and she hugged me back with the same enjoyment. “Caroline. Ohh I didn't know you were coming to help.” 
“You're mother is one of my best friend’s. I'll do anything to bring her back.” 
Lizzie pressed her hand on the book whispering and lighting the circle of candles. “Incendia. We should be ready to go. Freya will be the look out so that if we need to end the spell we can.” 
“I think we're ready.” Josie replied, flipping through some pages holding her sister’s hand. Caroline and I stepped in the circle around my mothers unconscious body and the pair joined us leaving Freya on the outside. 
Caroline glanced at me, squeezing my hand in hers. “I'll do a head dive on her. You kids just need to keep her dark consciousness away from her normal consciousness.” 
“We understand.” I close my eyes, chanting softly under my breath. “Pontem praesidio. Anchora-” 
“Pontem praesidio. Anchora immortalibus. Per mental mi heavy for anmina. Pontem praesidio. Anchora immortalibus.” The signal vampire watched the three witches beside her chanting before the candles shot up into the air and everyone inside the circle suddenly collapsed onto the floor. 
The next time I flicker my eyes open I see a room full of mirrors and all of us standing in the center of them where they surround our group. Slowly glancing around I heard footsteps coming towards us where I saw my mother come around the corner. “Mom, is it really you?” I asked, searching her gaze that met mine. 
Her familiar eyes locked onto mine with zero darkness visible in them. “Alina, it’s okay. It’s me. But she won’t stay down for long.” 
“Aunt Rae, we are here to bring you back.” Josie sent her a half smile. 
My mother’s whole body shook before the glass room turned into full black darkness and we saw another figure appear behind her. “Did you really think that your family could do anything to stop me? I will always be a part of you.” Dark Rae stands in front of my mother grabbing her by her hair holding her against her chest. 
“Mom!” I cried out in fear. 
“Agh!” She winced at the grip she held on the heretic. 
Caroline glared at the dark witch. “She is nothing like you. She’s good and loving. She’s stronger than you think she is.” 
“Ha! She gave up her magic because she was too afraid of it. I would never do such a thing. She has been hiding behind a fake mask, pretending to be tough and purely good.” Dark Rae chuckles dryly at the four of us. 
Lizzie glanced at her sister. “Can we blast her now?” 
“It’s not that way, Lizzie. This is like how I was with Dark Josie. It’s a mental game.” She explained to her. 
Dark Rae gripped my mother’s shoulder with her fingers turning red where she siphoned off of her and lowered her down onto her knees. My mother winced glaring up at her darker self. “I already gave you control. So what more can you want from me?” 
“You foolish heretic. I want you to be completely gone. Giving me control isn’t enough when I know this side of you still exists.” Her dark side smirked. 
Caroline stepped in front of me grabbing my mothers attention. “Raelyn, listen to me. When I turned off my humanity I was terrified of disappointing my moms legacy and disappointing myself most of all. So I know that you are terrified that this side of you is the stronger side. But you have always been the strongest person I have known with or without your secret dark personalities.” 
“She’s not smart enough to believe what you’re saying. She was afraid of her own magic, afraid of herself with no humanity and now the darker part of her witch side.” Dark Raelyn chuckles, finding the blonde vampire's words to be ridiculous. 
Josie steps away from her sister getting the closest to the dark witches body. “You’re right she was afraid of her darker selves. But she doesn’t have to be anymore.” 
“Josie - she’s too powerful.” My mother sniffed through tears. 
The siphon witch bent down to be eye level with her, reaching her hand out for her to take. “That’s what I thought when I let my darker self take over my body too. I thought that being strong meant being like Kai and I also thought I would hurt Lizzie. Until I realized that I can be more powerful and be good.” 
“But what if she takes over. What if I let my other side on and only make things worse?” Mom asked her with a nervous breath. 
Caroline vamped beside her daughter. “That won’t happen.” 
“We are never going to let that happen, mom.” I joined the pair grasping my mothers freehand in my own. 
Josie locked eyes with her. “Because we are your family, always and forever. You have shown all of us that you can be powerful and have light and darkness inside of you. Both sides are a part of you Aunt Raelyn.” 
“You’ll fail. You aren’t able to defeat me.” Dark Raelyn declares in my mothers ear before my mother spun around and grabbed her in a choke hold by her neck facing her darker half. 
My mother glared up at her, throwing her down onto the ground and hovering above her dark self. “Actually I can defeat you. Because you are a part of me.”
“I am the stronger version of you!” Dark Rae growled. 
My mother dug her fingers into the dark witches neck showing her fangs to her snapping her neck. “I’m the stronger one of us!” She rose to her feet facing us before darkness surrounded us.
Shooting upright in a sitting position on the wooden floor I glanced around to see everyone else was waking up. “Mom?” I noticed that she was still laying on the floor unconscious causing me to rush over to her on my knees. 
“Alina?” Suddenly her fingernails gripped onto my closet wrist when she finally opened her eyes. 
I sighed in relief helping her sit up so we threw our arms around each other. “You’re okay - you’re okay.” 
“Alina!” We barely separated from the embrace hearing my father’s familiar angry voice coming throughout the boarding house. 
Aunt Freya turned her head in that direction slumping her shoulders. “At least your father will be happy she’s back safely.” Rolling my eyes I just hoped he wouldn’t let the dark side of her control him. 
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