#living together before marriage

[fighting-these-demons]

Divorce Saga Domon - A Haunted Honk Prequel

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This is an idea for a fic set in an Alternate Universe involving Queer Non-Canon Relationships between the characters of the series.

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Ended up outlining a completely different fic as a Segway for an explanation instead of making progress on the Royal Flush Haunted Honk AU's Clown Motel Fic like I wanted to but uh....

For y'all's review for the AU: A Prequel Outline - Divorce Saga Domon

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Hey real quick - I'm thinking of maybe changing the timeline to 2 years post canon as opposed to 3 years and change post canon.

The reason being: I had a thought that this scene could either be part if the fic or if it's getting to big then it could be a stand alone tie-in prequel fic as part of this AU but - like

Immediately Post Divorce Domon Needs Space and runs off. As one does. And he runs to Earth because he just wants to Get Lost for a while.

He has Argo smuggle him out to avoid detection.

Argo has Andrew help stow Domon in a storage hanger of a Neo Canadian supply ship that's returning to the US - they have trade often enough and share agricultural resources - which leads to Domon ending up in New York when he hits Earthside pavement.

He's privately worked on his English the last couple of months and after being dropped in New York with a different hairstyle, outfit, and accent he's unrecognizable. 

He considers making his way west to get some solitude in the wilderness, but something about that initial plan feels off now that he's on the ground.

Chibodee is also Earthside for a special series of prize fights aimed at raising charitable appeal for the US in the eyes of Neo Americans.

Domon decides to hit up Chibodee for a fight on a day between matches hoping it'll clear his head and give him the clarity to decide on a course of action. What ends up happening is an unexpected heart to heart via blows and a breakdown.

Domon is happy for Rain and Kyoji, and he knows it's not true; but he feels like he lost a piece of himself when his relationship with Rain fell apart.

Domon's instinct is to run after that but Chibodee knows this city and Domon doesn't hide out for long before Chibodee drags him back to his place to stay and just "Chill out and breathe. You don't have to be anyone but yourself here. You can take as long as you need to find out what everything changing means for you." Friends and teammates stick together.

So Domon spends a few weeks with Chibodee sparring and hanging out in New York. Chibodee does a frankly awesome job at containing his feelings because he's focusing on Domons feelings and being a good friend first and foremost. Whatever he's feeling can wait until after Domon is done going though it.

There's a bit of a twinge in Domon's heart as he leaves that he can't really place.

After he returns to Neo Japan and gets settled back into life with his family, The Dreams start.

They're mainly set in New York. Small things first like noticing Chibodee's smile and his eyes. Then sparring sessions that begin to turn lurid.

He thought these kinds of dreams would stop after he was married.... he doesn't know what to do about this.

I just figure it gives more clarity and sense of time for the journey from Comphet Marriage Dissolution to Feelings to Confession. Idk.

But I got stuck on a bit and then had this thought and needed to get it down before I lost it and it was so long it made sense to make it its own post as opposed to several replies.

The Maize and Clown Motel will probably still be 3 years and change post canon for clarification.

@thedragonchilde @amplexadversary @youreaclownnow

[sanctity-in-sexuality]

Can I also add that the taboo around sex makes forming healthy views on same-sex attraction basically impossible?

My parents were TERRIFIED of The Gay, and were even more terrified when I moved to California for work. It was weird, and very freeing, to be around Catholics who didn't get immediately uncomfortable whenever the existence of gay or lesbian couples was mentioned, and it made me realize how weird a lot of smaller Catholic communities can be about it.

I know it's sort of a given on the Tumblr Catholic community, but purity culture does a horrible job of preparing people to love and minister to those who don't fit in the mainstream.

My parents are the same way, lol. When I first got my job, I mentioned to them that one of the attorneys I work for is gay, and they became very distraught about how terrible that was. I think a lot of the older generation forgets to think about LGBT folk as being otherwise average people they'd meet on the street. They're not turbo-sinners.

The way I explained it to my parents is that the normalization of LGBT culture in our generation is akin to the acceptance of divorce in theirs. Although my parents understand divorce/remarriage is sinful, they grew up at a time it was being normalized; they would never ostracize or treat differently someone who's remarried after divorce, even though it would scandalize their parents, because they were used to encountering it and recognized the people behind the sin. Whereas now, they're scandalized by The Gays much like their parents were by the normalization of divorce; they're not used to encountering it and thinking of them as otherwise ordinary people.

[the-way-astray]

breaking my silence to say: T4T ALDELLA

[scoliosisgoblin]

doodles and some lore. I'm tired.

[juminies]

hi! omg thank u for giving the translations! i also thought it might be a lost in translation thing but ur right it’s just as vague in korean??? and i think so too, considering how’s he usually so blunt and straightforward the way he was skirting around the subject is a bit ???

though i just had a thought… i remember reading that in the original version, the jumin gay “jokes” are about him being a wizard - referencing a meme about virgin men who turn 30 suddenly gaining magical powers? idk if it’s legit because i don’t know korean but i saw it mentioned a few different times by a few different people… if it was true and we take the option that he hasn’t had any prior relationship experience as the truth this might be a possible explanation for his vagueness: i was thinking that since mc has the option to play along with these “jokes” & jumin’s feeling these new unfamiliar feelings for her… he dances around the subject because, although he usually doesn’t care about such things, the constant roasting has probably affected him subconsciously and he sees his inexperience as a bad thing. he might think that telling mc the truth might give her a bad impression of him but he also doesn’t want to outright lie to her so being vague is the safest option

also ur right, considering how hurt he was with the whole sarah debacle, it makes sense that chairman han probably hasn’t done something similar to him before. i never thought about it that way!!

the uni experience thing… if he ever did date, he’d probably have done it during this time but i feel like it’s unlikely due to the points in the previous ask. the sleeping with someone i can’t see happening at all for a few reasons: he’s always going on about the no living together before marriage thing, even with mc who he loves he wants to wait, he mentions he’s conservative, and him hating his father’s womanizing ways leads me to think he would steer clear from anything casual. also, with all the women who have been making inappropriate advances towards him throughout his life and him having nightmares about it… i can potentially see him not feeling comfortable enough to want to experience physical intimacy unless it was with someone he trusted and felt safe with, especially for his first time… and he mentions rika being the first woman in his life he felt comfortable around…

honestly with how often it’s mentioned that jumin not’s interested in women or relationships and jumin himself straight up saying he hates women, i personally don’t think he’s let himself get close enough to a woman to have any romantic or sexual experience at all, like i deadass don’t think he’s even held hands in a romantic sense

i think ur “come meet my friend and his daughter” theory seems to be the most plausible! it’s the least contradictory with the other information we’ve been given. it’d work around the jumin not being interested in women or relationships … by having chairman han getting jumin to come along as a kind of casual get together and then making himself and his friend scarce, leaving jumin alone with the daughter. it’d also explain the bit about him saying that he doesn’t even know if he can even say he saw them.

anyway that is a lot of writing over like 2 sentences said by jumin lmao but it’s fun to theorize

also i am HERE for the chairman han post, that man needs a good slandering!!!

to clarify, I have always thought that he's a virgin prior to meeting MC! I agree he does not at all come across as the casual type for a plethora of reasons, most of which you mentioned already. it seems that he puts quite a lot of weight on wanting sex with MC to be right, too, whatever that means to him. I think most theories for why he would not be a virgin are kind of absurd hahah. I have seen people imply that he was sleeping with women to get them to sign contracts which.. no comment. he was just being handsome and charming.

I mainly mentioned university as a possible (albeit unlikely) scenario because it's the one time in his life we know practically nothing about, and Jumin being abroad for his studies dually makes it the perfect time to make bad and/or out of character choices. curiosity is a very big part of Jumin's personality and so while I don't personally think it happened I do think if he was hypothetically to have slept with someone at any point it would have been as a one-time, rather literal experiment at nineteen or twenty. written results afterwards and everything. it would also give him psychic damage.

I do also agree he probably sees his lack of inexperience as a bad thing, honestly, which is sad because it's definitely not :( he seems a little self-conscious generally when it comes to MC, hyperaware of himself and how she might perceive him. he says himself it's unlike him to care about what other people think, and I think it's actually very cute that he gets a bit frazzled by it all. I love him so much.

[countess-of-edessa]

not to be rude @ my fellow catholics but it’s dumb as hell to hear about all the "strategies" people should be employing to avoid sleeping with their boyfriend/girlfriend/fiancés. like obviously avoiding the physical act of premarital sex is important but if the only way you were able to avoid it was by only meeting in public before 6pm with three witnesses and you never brushed hands that says a lot about your ability to discipline yourself. what are you going to do once you’re married and there are still times you should not have sex? you should not want to have premarital sex because (1) against God (2) against the salvation of the individual you are supposed to will the good for. acting like you have to construct an obstacle course between the two of you to avoid falling into sin is like not stealing from a store because the salesperson followed you around the whole time. good for you but also work on yourself

[hecatesbroom]

I just watched that s7 episode where Rose, Dorothy and Sophia will have to move out if Blanche doesn't make them co-owners of the house and oh.... oh my god. I knew Blanche's grand gesture would hit hard, but Dorothy's talk to Rose before then?? Giving her an excuse for why she has to say, only to shrug that off and softly tell her the truth ("we love you") and proceeding to tell the permit guy that they're family!! They love each other so much & they can't be separated!! Rose's face throughout the whole thing!! It's so much

[fideidefenswhore]

Culpeper had intimate access to the king and was well placed to provide Katherine with information about her husband's health and his ever fluctuating moods. More importantly, Culpeper could warn her of any indication that Henry was angry [...], could listen out for any gossip about her, and report on speculation that her husband was considering repudiating her in favour of Anne of Cleves. Throughout Katherine's queenship, this topic would surface time and again, to her consternation and grief.

Katherine Howard: The Tragic Story of Henry VIII’s Fifth Queen, Josephine Wilkinson

[betelgeusing]

marty hart's cyclical return to praising family as THE thing that keeps a man grounded, stable, and happy (specifically in pointing out that rust DOESN'T have a family) even as flashbacks show him spiraling into jealous macho violence as he lies to, mistreats, and destroys his family over the course of multiple affairs (by which he deliberately steps outside of and away from his family despite his wife's best efforts to get him to reconnect and step up to be the family man he sees himself as)

vs

rust cohle's repeated excoriations of the idea of individuality and personhood and the stupid self-centeredness and entitlement that comes with saying "I, a human being, matter to the universe, and the things I do matter", an ideology he carries for years and waxes poetic on for his interviewers as late as 2012, even as he obsessively works himself to the bone to get justice and resolution for the victims he's assigned and ultimately to protect children from the powerful and dangerous people who want to brutalize them

[the-pirate-captain]

This has been bugging me for a while now, so:

About a month ago, I started working with a new employee. I work in a lab and my main analysis that I run is a two-person job, so I work with this guy between three to four days every week. The other day (or two) I run a different test, but I'm currently working with another analyst so she can take over that test once I leave (I'm getting married and moving soon). Anyway. A week or so after new employee starts, I'm running my secondary test with the other analyst, and the lady in charge of lab safety comes over to check the gas tanks or something. Safety lady is probably late-forties; I know she has teenage kids and maybe one in college. She starts talking to the other analyst, who is a few years older than I am, and also engaged. I don't particularly pry into other people's personal details, but she's volunteered that she and her fiance are living together and don't have a wedding date set but "maybe two or three years from now." Anyway. Safety lady then addresses me and says, "You're working with the new hire, huh? How's he doing?"

"Oh," I say, "He's been great! He's learning fast, and in a few more weeks he'll be up to speed."

"Oh nice," says safety lady. "Plus he's cute, riiiiiight?"

So let's see. What I'm thinking is, that's a weird thing for a middle aged woman to say about a younger employee who's probably younger than her own kids. I'm thinking, I really don't have a particular opinion one way or the other about his appearance. To be honest if I saw him outside the context of work I don't think I'd recognize him. I'm thinking, gosh you know I love my fiance so much and he's the handsomest guy in the world and I don't really care what anyone else looks like anyway. I'm thinking, I really don't want to say anything about my new coworker's looks at all. What am I supposed to say? "No I think he's ugly." Hmmmm maybe not. I'm thinking all this, and what I say outloud is,

"I'm getting married."

To which safety lady and other analyst respond with *concerning* conviction, "Oh but that doesn't mean you can't think he's cute!" and "Well sure you can't touch but you can still look!"

"Yeah," continues the younger woman, "you're getting married but that doesn't mean you're dead. You still have eyes. That's what I say to my fiance. You still notice when someone else is attractive."

And that. Really. REALLY. Bugged me.

I did not say anything else. Safety lady and other analyst moved on and the day continued and I never said anything else to them about it.

But what I SHOULD have said was,

Actually, marriage *is* a living death. It's a death to self. It's sacrificing my life so my spouse and I can find new life in Christ. So don't try to cajole me into objectifying another person just because you don't understand that marriage is a sacred covenant. I may not have said the vows yet but I fully intend to, and to say them with my whole heart, and what God has joined together no man shall put asunder.

Anyway.

[coridallasmultipass]

A thing I just thought now: "Oh, wow, it was less than 8 years? That's a really short time to know anyone before getting married."

The punchline is that I'm aromantic.

[mitochondriaandbunnies]

I do not know how to feel about the fact that I just wrote 35 pages of My Two Dads fic

This seems like a new level of depth to the questionable decisions I've made in my life, but I'm going to choose not to unpack any of that

[stuck-in-the-ghost-zone]

OH GOD THE SET IT OFF CONCERT IS IN LIKE 5 DAYS. OH MY GOD

[juminies]

Feel free to be more specific/explain your reasoning in the tags or replies if you want to (especially if you think it's less than a month are we talking 2 days or 3 weeks)

Everything vaguely timeline related from Jumin AE below if you want to use it to inform your vote

[sick-as-a-dog]

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[mythrae]

I spent a good portion of this weekend with my bf’s family and his dad let it slip that he’s waiting for my bf to propose