Just a pattern in dazai as a strategist
Well, now that I've read @sorcerersandskillusers 's amazing post (if some of you still haven't, READ IT or you won't understand this one), I've come to think of how asagiri really likes to make card symbolism for the place that a character will take in a battle and in the story in general. (Talking of this, I wanted to make a theory based on it but still can't figure out which card game the Meursault arc could be).
Anyway, in dazai's case, that change between the king of club and eight of heart (the leader mori wanted to make him become and the the person who is centered on his relationships he is now, thanks to oda and chuuya even if he didn't make anything voluntarily) is kinda like a pattern with dazai.
I don't think it's just a before/after thing. Sometimes, he still acts like a leader, which translates into a king card (even though it resembles more the king of spade than the club one as this post shows). And well, oda says it : dazai changed the king with an eight of heart, but brought the king back afterwards.
Also, maybe the reason oda doesn't know where that cards come from it's because it's something within dazai that changes when this happen (of course in terms of symbolism).
In each battle he is at first in the center of all the plan and places the pons, create occasions, and at some point he places himself in a situation where he can't do anything and all that follows is on the connections/ relationships he has with his allies. He places everything on this trust (first with chuuya, the with oda and now in approximately any ADA member, akutagawa and now sigma).
We've seen it multiple times already:
(⚠️15, Stormbringer, dead apple, the day I picked up dazai and dark era spoilers, for those who haven't read the light novels⚠️)
In fifteen, he literally abandon in the middle of the fight against Rimbaud for a moment, is inactive and then it's revealed by chuuya that everything goes as dazai planned it.
In Stormbringer whith the final not so final fight with all the ability users, he is indeed the gamemaster. But becomes a simple spectator when verlaine turns into guivre, and then mori convinces him to save chuuya and he elaborates a new strat for chuuya to save yokohama.
In the dragon head's conflict part, when he places the microacope hint in a conversation with chuuya and then go to the enemy and get captured. After that he waits for chuuya to take the hint and come save him, even though he can free himself alone.
With oda, he planned all situations but ended up letting oda save the day each time (the day I picked up dazai side A, and against a mimic member in the allyway, when he pushed the sniper to shoot him). It applies even for the tiniest of things...!
Obviously how he trusted that chuuya would come and rescue/punch him as the sleeping beauty after he took the poison in dead apple.
Even how he put everything in sskk and kyouka's hands to handle Francis and the fall of Mobydick, even though we know afterwards that he planned it all with ranpo and is therefore the king of clubs but inactif in the 'actual' battle, so somehow simultaneously the eight of hearts.
and later, still trusting sskk with the poison master in the cannibalism arc, before he tries to catch Fyodor...
Yeah, in EVERY fight, dazai chooses to let the people he trust be the key element to his plan and he just watches it unfold as an eight of heart, before it's revealed he was the one that made everything happen the way it did, and was leading everyone in the shadows.
And since the day I picked up dazai was made for the beast movie, meaning when the Meursault arc had already debuted and was probably thoroughly planned in Asagiri's head, I think it will apply in the Meursault arc too. No, I don't think... I'M CERTAIN it will. It's not because dazai is an eight of heart right now that it means he won't come on top at the end
Thanks for reading my rumblings y'all, hope it makes sense at least... ( ;∀;)
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I’ll be writing a critique of the way Blitzø and Stolas’ relationship was handled more at length, but I wanted to stop and take a moment to look at this scene from the new episode, “Full Moon”:
This is the sort of power and control that Stolas has always had over Blitzø.
It does not matter that Stolas has never threatened to take away the Grimoire before, or that they were “friends” as kids, or that he offered Blitzø a few months off, or that he’s been nice to Blitzø in the past, or that Blitzø actually does have feelings for Stolas.
When you are in a situation where you cannot say no at the risk of losing your livelihood, you cannot give true consent.
This is the very BASIS of their relationship. It has always been the basis of their relationship—a quid pro quo relationship where Stolas holds all of the power.
I have seen countless people go over and explain in great detail why the full moon deal was not truly coercive, or a quid pro quo situation, or how it was completely consensual.
And it’s just not. It is sexual coercion where Blitzø cannot give meaningful consent. Because if he refuses Stolas, he’s at risk of losing everything.
I want to clarify that my criticism here isn’t with this writing decision. I’m not trying to say anything along those the lines of “because this fictional character did a bad thing the story is bad and people who like the character support sexual coercion!!” That’s not what I’m saying at all.
I am bringing all of this up because my criticism is not of this writing decision, but because of the framing of the Full Moon deal and of Stolas and Blitzø’s relationship.
The narrative often frames Blitzo as if he is the one who has wronged Stolas by not prioritizing Stolas’ feelings and needs above all else. Or, it frames both Stolas and Blitzo as being equally in the wrong for the conflicts in their “relationship”.
This framing, and the extent to which fans try to justify it as being ANYTHING other than what it actually is—Stolas coercing Blitzø into a relationship where he has no power and is at the risk of losing his livelihood—is baffling to me.
This framing, coupled with the writer’s absolute refusal to ever have Stolas held accountable for his actions (including Stolas still not actually apologizing for the situation he put Blitzø into—he acknowledges that the relationship being transactional is wrong, but does not acknowledge that he was wrong to coerce Blitzø into that relationship. He says “…it isn’t right…it never was”, not “What I did wasn’t right, and never was”) is why I can’t consider St0litz to be just a “complex” or “messy” relationship.
It don’t think it can be, because it’s not a relationship. Not a real one. It’s a transaction, where Stolas treats Blitzø like a sex object. And whether that was the intent or not, Blitzø’s reaction above and saying that he would do anything to keep the grimoire makes it really hard for me to see St0litz in any other light.
As a final note, I’m not saying that you can’t write dark relationships, or have complex and unsympathetic protagonists. You can ship whatever you want! You can have characters that sexually coerce and abuse others, you can write every dark and twisted thing your mind can come up with.
But it’s very clear that Helluva Boss’s writers want to frame Stolas as being the wronged party, and the one who we are supposed to sympathize with—and you just can’t have it both ways.
You can’t act like you’re writing a complex love story between two very complicated and real people, when the relationship that you’re describing is so utterly one-sided and unbalanced.
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