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Sometimes you just find interesting old websites (or maybe even webzones) from the day. Like this one.
"Welcome to the STAR FLEET UNIVERSE, where thousands of people boldly explore new worlds and new situations every day.
As is readily apparent, the STAR FLEET UNIVERSE is based on The Original Series of Star Trek, and is produced under contracts with Paramount and with Franz Joseph Designs. While not necessarily "canon trek", the STAR FLEET UNIVERSE is a rich and vast playground, and is more consistent than the literary equivalents. It has to be, since the STAR FLEET UNIVERSE is home to a number of game systems, and gamers tend to get upset if we change the rules, history, background, and technology every time a fiction writer needs a new plot device. We do, by the way, publish a lot of fiction in our CAPTAIN'S LOG series, some of which is regarded as among the best published for this genre."
It is something of a forgotten part of the lore that the Kzin are quote unquote "canon" to the Star Trek universe. As well as the Lyrans which body fucking talks about these days.

And you know it is old school when it is Pre-TNG Klingons.
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My brothers watching the tsams old lore to get some context what I am watching lmao.
My memory is crusty, but Moon did openly back there was good at comforting for abit with Sun.Despite the other negative traits in their sibling status back then(The sticks-).
So Moon did say it was his fault over and over, and saying this wasn't any part of Sun's half in the situation(I'm inspecting old lore okie- Damn I miss them heheh) that has been caused.
But genuinely when Moon couldn't tell shit if it was the one who call you brother is your brother or not.Oh my lords wudcbvdidbc.
Eclipse don't like scooper:3 And I forgot he was more violence handed back then- He wanted to gut Gregory.Bro,he kept killing everyone almost except the murderer(HOW DID DAVIS GOT THAT MANY DETECTIVE ROLES-).Eclipse was a troll,sigh sigh. That is what makes him fun and likable I guess(I forgot,I think back then I did not like Eclipse- Maybe his humour and villain ark but yeah,I grew to like him eventually).
Sun, being so scared back then was pure memories. My brothers know SCP better than me to be honest.I didn't bother with SCP(SCP 087 is everybodys nightmare fr).
I like how Moon said Sun is great and enough at things!Oh lords reassurance, Moon and Sun doing their best<3
Sun:"I will be a great dad!"
*Two years later*
*Dazzle/Evelyn pops up*
#tsams#sun and moon show#the sun and moon show#sams#tsams sun#tsams moon#old lore#tsams old lore#lednet au talks!
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never forget what they took from us
#league of legends#viktor lol#machine herald#im gonna open an archival blog soon for jayvik stuff#old lore#so that vgu huh#neverforget
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we have to preserve the old lore
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"We aren't so different you and I" - Old Corin Reveck to Ekko from "Convergence"

#arcane#arcane league of legends#league of legends#I can't tell you how much I miss the old Corin#Come back#i miss him#Corin#corin reveck#ekko arcane#ekko league of legends#my two faves#Ekko#They could have been friends#Convergence#arcane zaun#arcane season 2#Singed#arcane singed#Old lore
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If Val still abuses Vox like stated in the old lore, would he and Angel be able to relate?
Tw: discussions of abuse
If you weren’t back in the early days of the fandom, back then we barely knew anything about Vox. All we knew was a few limited and obvious things like he was an entertainment overlord and one of the three Vees.
However, one of the things we later learned about him in a livestream is that him and Val are in some sort of relationship and that Val is obviously abusive towards him.
This was a part of the old lore and while I’m sure Val can get violent from time to time, it seems from episode two that this new idea of Vox has a lot of control over Val’s anger and wouldn’t really allow him to crack or break his screen.
But back then we didn’t know this. Remember when we thought Val would be the leader of the Vees?
Considering that we also still thought the Voxtagram stories a were canon and Val is shown to break Vox’s screen often, we had a very different interpretation of him.
And with the popularity of amazing fan song ‘eyes on me’ from paranoid dj that also shows their relationship as abusive at the end of the video, this was all we thought their relationship would be like. (Ok but honestly eyes on me is amazing I listen to it like every week)
Now, how did this relate to angeldust?
We knew a lot more about Angeldust because he is part of the main cast, and when addict released the show was making it very obvious that Val was his boss, abuser, and that hurts and affects him daily.
When the show released we get a sneak peak of how manipulative Val is in episode 2 when he convinces Angel to come to the studio, but it is the worst in the infamous episode.
This episode’s entire theme is about Val and just how horrible he treats Angel and has no regards for his feelings, body, or well being.
I could go into more detail on just how bad Val is to Angel, but that’s a sensitive topic that’s been discussed to death already.
But as we see at the end of ‘poison,’ Vox gives Angel a look that I can only describe as smug jealousy.
Which Vox, I love you, but that is disgusting.

In this frame it’s shown to us that Vox is jealous of Angel because Val focuses a lot of his time on Angel and not him, but… Angel is literally getting raped without his consent?
Vox may be Val’s on and off boyfriend, but he’s very aware of what Val does to his employees, especially Angel. It’s part of why he works with him.
But comparing someone who youre partly letting get abused in your workplace by you’re friend and work partner to jealously because they are getting abused and beat by that person daily to be jealous of because Angel spends more time with Val than he gets to?
I’m sorry Vox, but that sickens me to an extreme level.
Of course I could just be reading to far into that one frame, but in the context of the show Vox is an egotistical overlord who is already shown to not care for his own employees. So why would he care about what Val does to his?… except when they are the source of his anger and time.
Now, theoretically, let’s say that in the new lore Val is still abusive to Vox at times. Ignoring how close they were in the finale song in episode 8.
Val is poison to everyone around him, even the people he’s the closest to.
Would Vox and Angel be able to bond over this? I say no.
Angel is a sinner, which is on the lower part of the class system in hell. It’s normalized that someone like him can be treated however it applies to a contract they signed.
There’s no sympathy for him by others except when they care for him and what it makes Angel do to himself (Husk) or when they know just what goes down in that studio (Charlie)
But I highly doubt Angel and Vox are any sense of close.
Vox mainly works on his floor, and Angel works in the studio. They obviously have met and vox still has that.. *ew* resentment to Angel, but that’s really it.
Now, vox on the other hand, is a powerful level who is on the same level, if not more powerful that Valentino because he’s the leader of the Vees.
Even if Val abuses him sometimes, he’s probably… into that.
Look at that waist and tell me that man isn’t a bottom, you get the point.
Val and Vox’s story hasn’t been told to us yet, but by using background information like a old picture of them from presumably the 70’s and how close they seem, I theorize they met a little after Val died and teamed up to become more powerful. They were a little attracted to one another, but it never did and still isn’t official, even if they look and act gay as hell. (Heh)
So Vox is on the same level as Val and has been close to him for 50+ years. They’ve had plenty of good moments, even if they are both awful people.
Oh yeah, let’s talk about that.
Since Vox is also on the same level as Val, he still is a awful person as well see in episode 2,4, and 8. (His appearances)
Even if he Dosent sexually assault his employees, he still treats them horribly, as does Velvette. I assume this is common practice for overlords to treat their souls poorly, but it’s still not a good practice. I feel bad for the fish guy who had to make angelic security on the spot, he looks as stressed as me.
He hypnotizes people into trusting him and buying his technology, which is just evil businessman behavior. Someone said he reminds them of lord business from the LEGO movie, and I see it.
He is also very petty towards Alastor in almost every way, immediately trying to brainwash his audience to not listen to him.
I’m not saying being petty is a sign of being a awful person, but for Vox it contributes.
There’s the… look in episode 4, which I’ve already discussed, but it’s important to note that Vox is in Val’s studio DURING Val shooting and mistreating his stars.
If he regularly does this is then he is more than aware of what Val does to his employees and only gives them disgusted stares back. Like all he sees in them is what Val sees, useless whores for content.
Which is obviously not good lmao
And then in episode 8 (and partly episode 6 if you look into it)
Vox is shown to have spying technology all over the city which is how he regulates his users behavior. He uses this tech to spy on alastor and the others and make fun of them like he’s watching football.
At the end of the episode, we see him happily dancing with Valentino and Tounge kissing him, showing us even more that they’re in love in their own sick twisted evil way.
Angel on the other hand, is shown to be better.
He’s in a hotel for redemption and throughout the season we see him slowly kicking his old habits like self destruction, drug abuse, alcohol abuse, distancing himself, etc.
(With the help of Husky ofc huskerdust for life)
And by the end of the season we see Angel being a lot more genuine to the others in the hotel and I only imagine he gets better once they find out it’s possible to be redeemed.
Vox is not shown to want to be morally better in the slightest, if not worse.
He wants to one up Alastor, he wants to take over hell with the other Vees, and he will do it however he wants because he’s a cartoon supervillain.
I’m not going to touch on what I Think of Val and Vox as a ship in this but what I will say is that Vox is a cartoon supervillain, doing things that even though horrible in the universe are just seen as goofy to us viewers.
Val on the other hand is scarily realistic, a abuser who manipulates his victims and forces them to have sex for his own benefits. I think that’s the main thing that sets me off for them, even if they are evilly perfect for each other. (So I’m gonna steal vox from Val)
Vox is in a much different position with Val than Angel is, equal to if not above him while Angel is very below him. We see Angel stand up to him in episode 6, but I just know he was beaten the hell out of the next day and broken even further.
Vox would belittle him, so the only way I see the two even talking genuinely is if Angel starts it.
This isn’t like Angel and Husk, where they’re both washed up losers who are going through situations similar enough to bond, there’s an extreme power imbalance that wouldn’t make it as meaningful as Angel and husk’s talk.
There’s an amazing comic, I’ll add it below, but it’s actually what got me thinking about this topic.
If Vox comes out with his screen cracked after Angel was also hurt just to yell at the other becuase he’s ruining their image, then I see this potentially working.
They could share a sweet line like Angel showing concern for Vox’s cracked screen considering that’s his face and it must feel like having you’re skull cracked open. Angel has probably been driven to that level before.
However I have this one image in my head.
If Vox and Angel are both slightly talking and then they both say, “Val can be… rough.”
I think that perfectly shows how different the two’s situations are with him.
Vox would say it all horny with a tint of love to his voice, while Angel would say it actually despaired and quiet. They see Val’s actions differently because they are affected differently by it.
Vox isn’t scared of Val because he is on the same level as him, and I think that’s the main reason to why they wouldn’t kconnect.
Besides, both Vox and Angel are either too egotistical or have too many walls up to have a legit conversation about Val without knowing each other at all.
If anything Vox is only a contribute to why Val focuses on Angel so much, their relationship is toxic af and we see in ep 2 that Val likes to get a reaction out of Vox. It’s sick and twisted but I wouldn’t put it against him to do something like that.
So, in conclusion I don’t think Angel and Vox would be able to relate to each other because their situations and relationships with Val are so different, even if Val lets it out on Vox time to time his main target is Angel. Angel gets hurt almost every day and I’d say Vox only gets hurt every couple months on a really bad day.
We know a lot of the lore has changed since the pilot and the Voxtahram stories most of these claims come from arent even canon, so I probably just ranted about nothing.
Regardless Thank you for reading, and goodnight. If you have any genuine thoughts about this feel free to share in the comments and reblogs, I’m curious.
#hazbin hotel#hazbin hotel angel dust#Hazbin hotel rants#My rants#hazbin hotel vox#hazbin hotel analysis#hazbin hotel characters#hazbin theory#I’ve been thinking way too much about this#tw: abuse#silly tv man#hazbin hotel angst#hazbin hotel fandom#old lore#hazbin hotel old lore#Hazbin hotel pilot#hazbin hotel deep dive#Deep dive#Long post#not my art#Notes ramblings#I can’t stop thinking about this#I might need it in season 2#Hazbin hotel voxval#voxval#vox x Valentino#Angel and Valentino discussion#Sorry for long post but my brain go brr
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Question, is it me, or does Universe(2015-2016) Viktor's lore feel kinda of...rushed, in a sense? Like, they didn't read through the lore he had to decide what stays what remains and decided to just, toss it out altogether and toss together all the ideas they had in draft to turn into a cohesive enough story because they didn't know what to do with him when the OG story was tossed in the can in favour of a blank canvas. Just so they could get another champ slotted into the current version of Zaun as soon as possible while fitting into the archetype of of Tech-Priest inspired Cyborg Scientist. Like it feels like they never went through his old lore to figure out what worked, what could be very easily translated into current Zaun, and what elements to drop like the elements strictly related to the Institute of War. To be honest, he's not the only one, I find that some champs' lore was rewritten for the better, like Poppy, while others feel like their rewrites were rushed out as soon as possible in time for the next Season for the new players. If they gave the champs a rewrite at all. Because, I've been reading through both and just, I don't see why they had to change it completely. He could've been so easily kept intact to what he was while sticking around in Zaun as we know it today. He still could've been with the College of Techmaturgy and honestly, I felt that would've added another layer to current day Zaun compared to what we have today by showing that even if they're not on as prestigious a standing as Piltover, Zaun is still a place just as advanced, to the point where it was the place that gave us, pretty one of the most intelligent champs in the game lore wise. If they really wanted a enemies/frenemies dynamic with Jayce they could've just made him, a transfer student of sorts to Piltover Academy while still keeping Viktor with the College. His situation with Blitzcrank could've gone nearly pretty much completely unchanged altogether. He could've remained the same personality wise regardless, I feel that would've helped keep him cohesive across the board. Especially since as of current, it feels like since 2016 if he by some miracle does appear in Riot's content, it's like someone's continuously flicking the light switch between being the typical Evil to Morally Grey Mad Scientist TM to being a Robotic Saint so fast that it's kind of a pain to properly pin down his characterization. That is if he isn't left in the Neglected Champs Bin altogether until the next time Riot remember he exists. To the point that the moment you think you have Universe Viktor's character pinned down, all the sudden they realize a new thing he's in that contradicts what they gave you before they released the thing and now you're left confused again. Sometimes, even within the same timespan as seen with LoR because the Viktor in the comics for Vi and Jayce, doesn't completely feel like the Viktor you even play as. It feels like he's written by completely different people working off a prompt a majority of the time. When, there wasn't a issue with his personality to begin with, and he still would've been compelling, if not more compelling today in a world where mental health and the issues involving the problematic side of Academia is actually more in the forefront today than it was in 2010. It wasn't that he had a problem back then, it's likely more than not that he was just, ahead of his time, and written in a time period where neither topic weren't as talked about because it didn't have a chance to make a wave on the internet yet. Plus it would've made things A LOT better down the line writing him because then he wouldn't have been on such an odd standing that the writers keep flip flopping all over the place writing him.
His goal could've remained the same completely, just with a mild rewrite to write out the Institution and just simply made him a man who wanted to preserve HIS work by doing that work on HIMSELF due to the trauma from Stanwick, before pioneering it to enough of an extent to where he could safely help others. And that a major chunk on why a lot of people have some animosity towards him is because he's just, difficult and kind of intimidating to read for a lot of people, in combination with the rep he gets from the more fanatical Acolytes and the Piltovan side, and that the more antagonistic misassumptions of him spread and got flanderized overtime. When in reality compared to the rumours he's actually just, a decent guy, it's just that he's just going through shit and has a hard time with people a majority of the time. Only that, others have a hard time even approaching him to see that. There was just, so much potential, and so many a solution already that didn't include rewriting the entire character. But I think a major reason to everything is that they took a change that should've been implemented over the long term to begin with and tried to rush it out as soon as possible for the sake of rewriting and expanding on the world building to give us something new and more expansive. Especially once the game became popular and picked up enough steam to go from what was an indie MOBA into a game that all the sudden ended up with some really big shoes to fill. When, I feel in hind sight, they should've taken their time to readapt everyone in such a way that they could've preserved and refined the pre-existing champs overtime, keeping what to the old fans was still familiar and keeping to their original character in one way or another, while still gradually shifting Runeterra into the open world it is today.
I don't know, just, looking at a lot of the oldies, Viktor included, I feel like they're all victim to what is in hindsight, a giant rush job. Especially considering he's one of the champs that got the shortest end of the stick out of a lot of this. I mean, the most love he's got is from Arcane, but Arcane Viktor is the Viktor specific to Arcane's world, and Arcane's version of Runeterra. He is his own separate character isolated to his own story and should honestly for the most part be treated as such, even as far as I'm concerned and that's the rendition that is personally to me, one of my favourite renditions of Viktor. Strictly talking in game Viktor. Riot did him pretty dirty.
Yeah you're right that the 2016. Universe lore reads like the people tasked with "updating" the og 2011. lore didn't truly understand it, nor did they understand the meaning of elements they introduced in the new version.
Like you mentioned, Zaun was left with having nothing in terms of academic institutions, and as consequence the world feels much smaller because the class conflict, from both cities having their own versions, got squeezed into a reductive cliché with Piltover-Zaun where one side has everything and the other one is just a garbage dump. It doesn't help that the current garbage dump (Zaun) was representing east Berlin, eastern and south-eastern Europe, where I live. It reinforces the silent idea in popculture that people from here do not achieve any academic heights. It reinforces the stereotype that Ekko must choose his family and stay in Zaun, thus not having any access to higher education because all of it is in rich Piltover.
But Riot wanted to forcefully thread this class-conflict into every champion from this region, and this was the easiest way to do it - nuke anything Zaun had and leave them with just envy and hunger for what Piltover took from them.
Another problematic element in 2016. Universe lore that has no place being in Viktor's motivations or behaviour, is that "removing free will for their benefit" moment. In 2011. release lore, Viktor (alongside other students) created Blitzcrank, a sentient being with literal artificial free will, and Viktor fought tooth and nail to try and keep credit for his creation. So for starters, it would be antithetical for him to hate free will (he has one himself). Removing free will is not a morally questionable thing to do, it's straight up evil from the perspective of a person you're trying to save, because you're killing what they even are. But clearly the people doing the lore update deemed this appropriate position to plop Viktor into in order to give him something Jayce could oppose, why, I have no idea. Maybe they didn't understand just how downright morally deplorable this is and how it makes Viktor a terrible person, or maybe they indeed wanted him to fully read as a terrible person who begs for sympathy through the unfortunate events that happened in his life. But what unfortunate events? In the 2016. Universe lore, he got expelled exactly due to his own actions, his attempts at removing free will. I'd say that was deserved.
People love the short story with Naph and point to it as proof that Viktor is a good guy, and in principle I agree that a story of this type is fitting. It's the details that make it unsalvageable yet again - he gives a child mind-altering drugs (children have parents or guardians for a reason) and that nullifies any good advice or kindness he showed to the kid. There's also the frankly inexplicably stupid use of... literally rusted tools to do surgery on his own flesh. ??? He would die of infection. Come on.
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Arcane Viktor on the other hand has the opposite problem - he's forced into augmenting (whichever form it takes) due to his physical condition, and this is a completely different character motivation. He also (it looks like) doesn't rely on science and technology at all anymore, turning into a traditional mage with metal as simply a conduit/material he uses.
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Like you said, the topic of mental health in Academia is now more in the light than it was in 2011, but unfortunately it looks like large corporations still don't deem it "interesting" or "profitable" enough so they replace it with something more often seen. But it's an important topic regardless, and I still like the release lore for a reason.
When Rito was updating lores from 2014. to 2016, it really did look like a rushed job, you may be right.
#thank you for the message#viktor the machine herald#viktor league of legends#not arcane#long post#lore#lore meta#old lore#old 2011 lore#2016 Universe lore#arcane mentioned
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Forgot to add to the last ask- the otter comic says Kraw is a chimera, is that a natural species or are chimeras created somehow? Because otter grandpa said they're sterile and that happens to some non-natural animal combos irl. Also is his brother a chimera as well?
After just finding out about mayv and the way she looks, it made me think that chimeras are made by witches and not a natural species so I'm super curious now because why did somebody do that to those 2 kids if that's the case :(
In Hallowed Carrion chimera/Chimereals happen between two ‘primordial’ species that couldn’t normally mate, but it involves a ‘false uterus’ created by consuming the celestial body’s flesh. With Kraw it was his sea drake mother and Fury father. (They’re considered to be ‘primordial’ simply because they’ve been around for quite some time, live longer and are usually giants. Most modern day islanders don’t believe/know their kind exists, kind of like how we are with modern conspiracies of the ‘megalodon still existing in the marianna trench’).
It is a trait among chimereals that they are sterile. They’re also known by their abnormal growth hormones which causes them to keep growing/evolving for who knows how long. There’s actually a lot of prejudice held against them and they don’t often live in regular society like Kraw does, they’re usually considered dangerous and they’re often loners.
Most of this is only known because of Sylvaine learning about Serkan who is also a chimereal, albeit much older than Kraw. She’s actively studying chimereals through Kraw now. (He was actually very upset to learn he was sterile :(
And I’ve wanted to show more about Titus! It’s hard to balance my attention to everything lol.
Titus is also a chimereal. He was born on a specialized mill where they attempted to breed marine chimereals like him for hunting purposes. Most chimereals that come out of the mills end up dead, malformed or ‘defective’, so he was ‘lucky’. He also would have had the ability to breathe fire, but his flint glands were removed, like declawing a cat. He was kind of mean and he certainly had it harder than Kraw with Mayv. She didn’t even know he could speak when she first got him because his throat was fucked after they cut his flint glands out. He was about 7 when she got him and he was already known to be unruly/uncontrollable in the mill. They would have put him down if Mayv hadn’t come along. She took care of him though despite keeping a firm hand and eventually he came to see her as a surrogate mother.
He definitely got a jealous streak when she brought Kraw home. Mayv would often be fawning over how Kraw “came from the sea, so he would make such a great hunter and how beautiful his colors were and-“ blah blah blaaah. Titus hadn’t even seen the sea until Mayv rescued him, and he thought Kraw was just a little ‘flat-faced softie’. He would often goad him into fights. There’s a lot more to it, but eventually he and Kraw came to find their similarities, mostly through comforting each other through night terrors and exploring the swamps together.
Although Mayv also saw them like her own sons, she often towed the line between training them like animals and treating them like regular children. She was of course still very loving but it was often muddled by her militant expectations of them out on the ocean. Titus and Kraw worked for Mayv as ‘mer-hounds’, which are marine creatures that are trained to effectively hunt and catch mermaids or other large oceanic game, sort of like how some fishermen would use ducks. That was what the mills were breeding marine creatures for.
As of present day, a lot had gone down between Kraw and his brother, and a lot happened where Kraw had to leave the Shades as well. Kraw doesn’t know what’s become of his brother and whether or not Mayv is even alive. I do plan to get into that.
I can show you a sort of wip I have of him, but he might get a bit of a cleanup? Just because this is older art. I had planned to make growth charts for he and Kraw for a while now. Awkward teenage years and such.
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am I the only one missing Seraphine and skarners old lore for how purely fucked up and chaotic it was?
Be skaranar- have your whole ppl wiped out and be the only one left
-meet 19ish yr old popstar using the soul of one of ur ppl as autism headphones
-say nothing

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Rita: Hay Phil did you get my scrip ideas?
Stinky: Yeah I looked them over.
Pizzano: I saw them too, pretty good stuff.
Rita: Cool, thanks dad.
*Everyone stops and stares at Rita*
Rita:...Why is everyone staring at me?
Stinky: You just called Pizzano dad, you said "thanks dad"
Rita: What? No I didn't, I said "thanks man."
Pizzano: Rita do you see me as a father figure?
Rita: No! If anything I see you as a BOTHER figure because you're bothering me!
Yogurt: Hey show your father some respect!
Rita: I DIDN'T CALL HIM DAD!
Pizzano: Aw don't worry Rita, I see it as a compliment.
Pizzelle: It's no big deal, I called my wife "mom" once
Rita: Guys jump on that! Pizzy's got psychosexual issues!
The G: Old news, but you calling Pizzano daddy-
Rita: Hey daddy is not on the table here!
Candyman tied to a chair: But you did call him dad.
Rita: YOU SHUT UP! You've done nothing but lie and cause trouble since you got here!
Candyman: Ok fine, so I was lying about this evening. But the dad thing? That happened.
Rita: AHA! He admits his alibi was a lie! It was a trap! All according to my crazy, devious plan!
Pizzano: I believe you.
Rita: Thank you!
Pizzano: Dear daughter. :)
Rita:...
Pizzano: Wanna talk about it later over a...cup of hot coco?
Rita quietly: I would like that...
#sugary spire#old lore#phil stimpy#pizzelle#pizzano#the candyman#the g#rita spaghetti#incorrect quotes#yogurt the porcupine
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how did sestodra survive decapitation in the old lore
were the vani unable to be killed via head chopping back then
Honestly that was all a HUGE mess and was written before I solidified the species rules and other stuff, i'd just ignore all of it about her until i update her character
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E.L.A wattpad drafts that I'll never finish it istg
Drunk friendship (poth)
"Seriously Palette? Just tell me, what's up with you!" Goth yelled.
"Nothing, ALRIGHT? Just left me alone. I am busy!" Palette yelled back as he keep on walking away from Goth.
"Wait up! Please, Palette. Why are you acting like this?!" Goth continue to provoke Palette and follow wherever he go.
"If this is your stupid puberty then get over it. You're not a kid anymore—"
"THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM!" Palette snapped. "YOU ALWAYS TOLD ME TO SUCK IT UP BECAUSE I'M A BOY!"
"..." She is in disbelief. Palette actually fought back. "But I am not wrong."
He sighed. "Why did I even try..." Palette tear up a little but he quickly wipe it. "Why are you always like this. This world doesn't revolve around you."
"..." Goth sighed, she is very aware of her flaws. "Hey... Let's talk." she tugged on Palette scarf. "You don't look handsome when you're skinny."
Palette always know that Goth is genuine but her ego and pride made him wanting to stay away. He don't want to get hurt again.
"Palette please, I am worried. Ever since that sleepover, you changed into a different person!" She sighed. "Was this because of me? Are you avoiding me because I rejected you?" she asked.
"Stop, don't bring that up..." Palette sighed. "Look, it's not like that. You won't understand."
She won't understand.
Of course she won't understand if you don't tell the truth.
"I am trying to understand." she groaned. "You made yourself looking like you needed help but you don't really want it, do you?" she asked once again. "I'll ask you this. Do you want help or you want to be alone all by yourself."
"I-I..." Palette sighed. "I'm busy." he said as he walks away.
Goth was going to chase after him again but Merciless stopped her by grabbing her sleeve.
"Jeez... Just what's wrong with him...?" Merciless is getting worried for his best friend.
"I'm not sure..." she sighed. "Did you asked Drop what's up with Palette?"
Merciless nodded and say " Yes I did. Drop didn't tell me much though..."
There's a lot of sighing today. Merciless didn't like his friends to fought, he want them to get along until their very last moment.
"Maybe he is just stressed out about his modeling job?" Guessed Merciless.
"That could be it.. Well his agent and everyone in the agency are sucks." Goth rolled her eyes in frustration.
"Yeah I get that."
"..."
"..."
"Do you want to get some ice cream?" suggest Merciless
"Yeah that'll be nice, maybe we should buy one for Palette for a surprise!"
"Oh! That's a good idea!" Merciless smiles and the two of them went to get ice-cream.
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Goth and Merciless bought their ice-cream (with using Lux credit card)
"Palette is in the park right now, let's go." Said Goth.
Goth has the ability to recognize people's souls so she easily can know the person she looking for located.
She opened a portal and went inside it as it brought the two of them to the park.
"Palette!" Goth waves at him.
"dammit, I just need a rest for a day..." Palette muttered to himself.
A prince for a princess (one sided Mercidrop
[Platonic Mercidrop!!!! Or one sided 💀)
Drop is making a drink for Palette. He woke up from a nightmare so Drop decided a warm hot chocolate can help him.
"Brother, here you go..." She gives the drink to him. "Are you alright?"
Palette slightly nodded. He sighed and holding the mug. His hands are trembling.
"Hey, hey... Calm down, you're awake from the nightmares." She patted Palette back. "Do you want a hug?" she asked.
"Yes please..." Palette voice was also trembling.
Something happened in the last timelines, Drop can guessed it.
Deja Vu (Drop)
"PALETTE NO!" Drop screamed in terror.
She woke up from a nightmare again. This time, Palette was killed by Merciless.
She took a deep breath and look around her. It's a room, her room.
"Again..." She sighed trying not to cry but she can't. It hurts to dream about your love one dying again and again.
"Drop, are you alright?" Dream knocks on her door. "Can I come in?" his voice sounds very concerned.
Drop didn't answer but it's actually a sign for 'Yes'
Dream came in and sat next to her bed.
"Are you having a bad dream, sweetheart?" he ask.
"Yeah..." Drop sniffle into tears and hug Dream to find comfort. "It's all the same, Papa..."
White sheep [Merciless Angst]
Merciless just turned 11 this year. That's right, he gained weight a little and Killer was so happy.
Today is his birthday, he hopes for his mother to spend time with him like always. Merciless just finished dressing up himself, Lux bought him new clothes to wear since he can't always wear that torn out shirt.
Merciless quietly walks to the castle hall. The servants are whispering as they are badmouthing him.
"He's still alive.."
"Yeah because Mistress Killer love him so much.."
"If he died sooner, we wouldn't have to suffer."
Merciless pretending not to hear anything. It's the same... The servants mistreated him for being the white sheep of the family. He can't complain, he admitted it that he is one. He look nothing like Nightmare and he look nothing like Killer.
Killer explained that he got his genetic from his dead uncle, Papyrus but Merciless don't really believe it.
As Merciless walks, a servant intentionally trip Merciless and stepped on his hand.
"Whoops, my bad... Useless prince." Said the servant as they rolled their eyes.
Merciless don't need to cry. It's the same as usual. He were mistreated by his father and his mother are stressed about it. He don't want Killer to cry if she ever finds out that Merciless were mistreated by the servants too.
"It's alright... It's just an accident." Merciless forgave the servant. He quickly gets up and ran away. He don't want to be there any longer, he can't. If he did, he'll cry.
Can moon be good? [Old lore E.L.A surprise ending]
{{I am a bad guy... After I tried to kill my little brother.. He forgave me... Right of course he will forgive me. The prophecy is right after all.}}
" Sister lux... Can I come in? " Palette knocked on the door, asking for the permission to enter
" ah yes sure. The door is not locked "
Palette opened the door and peeping before coming in.
He hesitated for a moment but yet let himself calm.
" S-sister! W-well.. I- it have been a few days a-and.. O-our family want to see you! "
He didn't mean to stutter, he was nervous. For the first time in his repeating life, he stuttered to his older sister.
Lux let out a faint smile and stand up from her bed. She walked towards Palette and trying to pat his head but Palette flinched as his eyes showed a horrified expression
Lux clenched her wrist and walk past him
" Merci must miss me alot, "
She walked away leaving Palette alone. It took a minute for him to calm himself down.
He shouldn't be afraid of her. Not anymore... But yet his guts won't allow himself to stay calm
Lux walking through the hall way as she stumble upon Drop. She have tiny plaster on her cheek and her arm is wrapped with bandages.
Drop sweat a bit but bring herself to Lux
" Sister! Even if you are my rival, I still love you! So don't isolated yourself "
" -! "
Drop let an ugly cries and hug Lux as she wiped her face on her dress. Lux only can pat her head and comforted the little one.
She doesn't have the right to say anything after she hurts Drop
#evil lux au#old lore E.L.A#old lore#undertale au#lux sans#merciless sans#drop sans#palette sans#Goth sans#dream sans#killer sans#corrupted nightmare sans#killermare ship child#cream ship child#errorink ship child#afterdeath ship child
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awwwww, what a sweet little girl!, i h0pe n0thing bad happenz 2 her-
aw fuck...-
anywayz yeah az ztated in z0me bitz 0f murder AU l0re, Rita [aka a scrapped sugary spire character I'm zure n0t all 0f y0u kn0w b0ut] iz can0n in my AU
alz0 inf0 0n her can be f0und here l0l:
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What's Drake's old lore like?
To sum it up, he was kidnapped by these ancient beings who did experiments on him, he broke out and escaped into the woods, years later a young wolf girl found him and brought him back to his daughter and she helped him to not kill people because bro was killing people in the woods. The wolf girl belonged to someone who I cut contacts with, so after that, I just rebooted his lore to have less 13-year-old cringe written all over it, lol. I've had Drake ever since I was 13 and that's also when I created his old lore. This Oc, he's been around for almost 7 years now
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Digging up old lore
I’m going through my old sketch books, notes ect.
1. I used to have a group of birds that hunted sparrows. (Sparrows arnt native here, and we had an issue with em eating the chicken feed at the time.)
They were called the SKR (sparrow killing raptors).
One of em (named Kia) was a cunt tho and would kill pigeons, which was an issue cause they were messenger pigeons. This guy would go on to become Daniel Muller, who still gets called Kia.
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The family
Sergej Naletevski, Marija Radajevna-Naletevska and their son, Viktor Naletevski. Viktor inherited facial edges from his mother and structure from his father. All of them have piercing dark eyes and very thin lips.
(The surnames are non-existent, something I tried to make sure. Radajevna is his mother's maiden name. And the second image is based on what actually happened to my parents irl)
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