Satine Kryze should not be a sympathetic character.
A complex and tragic one? Sure. Every day of the week.
But she did not 'have a point', neither in-universe, not outside of the sw framework. She isn't a hero, neither of her own story, nor of someone else's. There is no way she wasn't a tool. You should not look at her and think 'this woman has done nothing wrong and what ultimately happened to Mandalore was to no part her fault'.
Because guys. Friends. Strangers on the interwebs.
Pacifism doesn't work.
And it certainly wouldn't have worked in motherfucking Star Wars – the 'wars' is literally in the title – for a system or series of systems who wanted to stay neutral.
YOU DON'T STAY NEUTRAL FOR LONG BY JUST SAYING 'YEAH, NO THANKS <3' TO A LARGE-SCALE CONFLICT.
source: I am Swiss, we've looked at this in history class. Extensively.
Satine was a dreamer (thanks Obi-Wan) who was allowed to keep her delusions because they actively benefitted Palpatine's plans. And that's something you can quote me on. There is literally no other reason (apart from supremely bad writing but we'll leave that aside here) for her and her little friends' 'Alliance of Neutral Systems' or whatever to be allowed to exist.
Not that they were neutral in any way, shape or form, by the way.
So yeah sorry to the Satine stans, but you're idolizing a character that was written exclusively and specifically for Obi-Wan's manpain and who, in-universe, was a supremely bad politician. Because the level of mental dissonace needed to factually be a Republic System, have a seat in the fucking Republic Senate, rely upon their military for aid while actively proclaiming that All Violence Is Bad And Barbaric one sentence later AND THEN CLAIM TO BE NEUTRAL IN THE WHOLE CONFLICT – it's just mind-blowing. Even moreso that people actually look at this character and see something aspirational in her.
Again, I'll gladly dissect her character any day of the week. She is fascinating because of all the implications her existence as a head of state carries with it, as well as her deeply complicated family history and her relation to mandalorian culture.
But it just grates on me personally that that all gets ignored in favor of her being some sort of icon of white american saviorism (bc that's literally what she is) and her objectively bad political takes being treated like they are the only correct stance to be taken during the Clone Wars/Mandalorian Civil Wars.
If you think pacifism works and actually lets you stay neutral, I desperately urge you to open a history book. Because those two are mutually exclusive. Especially in the scenario that Star Wars paints.
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realized there wasnt a variant of a system pride flag with the interlocking venn digram symbol that doesnt have horendously ugly colors sooooo here this;
Edited from the white, orange, and black 3 stripe DID flag but in this case idrc what kind of system chooses to use it. The colors don't mean anything spesific other than being associated with the flag it's modified from. interlocking diagram I think is fairly self explanatory. *tosses flag at you* go forth.
if anyone uses this credit unnessecary. i though a design of this already existed and was surprised when I couldnt find it anywhere.
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Wednesday spoilers: even though what ill say has been said already but I need to finally let it out.
again these are just some of my personal thoughts and what I think!
I'm so happy alot of ppl agrees the the "two main possible male lOvE IntERest" had little to no chemistry with her.
but first,
I'll start with everything I like:
I love everything in the show except the "love triangel romance/ romance in general" that they pushed unto Wednesday. it doesn't rlly add anything. Tyler would have had more impact if he had been a platonic trustworthy friend.
i love the Christina ricci's character was the real villain. that's a really nice bow on everything.
I love we actually saw alot of The Addams Family Dynamic in the show! like in this rendition and universe ykyk. Also always great to have more Gomez and Tish and they're relations with the town and Nevermore.
ofc how could I forget, Jenna Ortega's performance was phenomenal. I really did like the casting.
ofc wendays and enid's dynamic was everything I expected and more. everything about them I loved.
I hope we get to see more bianca bcs I'm curious to her and wendays more chilled rivalry/frenemies dynamic will be like. now that bianca don't really give a shit about xiaver. (hopefully. yall are too good for that boy. that boy needs therapy.)
Enid is literally a Walking Queer Allegory. I said what I said.
wenday and Thing are everything to me. we day's friendship with Eugene to me as well.
oke. now my complainly part/things j wished that happened instead and parts that made me say "that could've been written, chosen better.."
I've TRIED to be unbiased while watching, mostly in the "romance aspect". and I think they should've really just focused on its being about Platonic relationships yk.. they like, they didn't even have a ball to drop Yk. Like you expect Me to believe these wet limp dick white boys are gonna be.. WEDNESDAY ADDAMS 'S.. Potential.. love interest..?? youre joking.
the most annoying part about this was both Xiaver and Tyler were so... fucking entitled. like, WOW. a Girl wasn't mean to you and spoke to you with very basic surface level human decency!
Xiaver, just has a Resting Bitch Face. He didn't do anything wrong but like he's still shithead. And was annoying. (to me)
Tyler, I really wanted him to be the MLM Best Friend :(
but nay, I was wronged ofc. Tyler at first didn't really bother me as much. first few episodes, HE'S JUST SOME WHITE GUY. then it progresses He Annoys Me With a Burning Passion.
especially, That's ONE SCENE. THE "YOU'RE GIVING ME MIXED SIGNALS WEDNESDAY WHERE DO I STAND@!?#?#!@????" OH PIPE DOWN YOU ONLY GOT UR DATE IDEA BCS ENID DID THAT BIRTHDAY PARTY.
my thoughts were like: there's no way. Wednesday liked this boy. she's be manipulated and gaslit.
And yeah Last few Episodes I was correct. it gave me more reason to hate Tyler's ass and I think he should've been brutally murder yk.
I love hunter doohan's performance though, thanks for taking one for the team King <3 He played the bland straight white boy monstour murder.
Now, Enid and Ajax. they were fine.. Ajax is the basic textbook goofy, nice guy who does weed, that just has madusa snake hair—
and omg I laughed so hard when he stoned himselfed like that, it's so perfect and stupid that a teenager with that ability would have the happen to them. it was so fucking funny to me.—
they're relationship is so shallow and mid to me idk. I mean, they do act like a typical teenage het couple.
it's just that, Enid liking a boy who she barely talks obsessesing over him but then also when she got stood up by him. Enid started liking another boy that she just talked to sharing same interests but mostly again just very bare minimum.
I'm not saying she's a shallow person, more say.. yk just a subconsciously finding and filling that, " you have to have a nice boyfriend bcs that's how the world is supposed to be " box...
in short yk, compulsory hetero normativity.
like cmon.. WHAT DO YOU MEAN UR MOM WANTS YOU TO GO TO "CONVERSION CAMP" ? WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHEN YOU WANTED HER TO ACCEPT YOU AS YOU ARE? WHAT DO YOU MEAN YOU WOLFED OUT JUST IN TIME YOU WANTED TO SAVE WEDNESDAY? what do you mean you didn't run into ur bf's after something traumatic but instead run into ur roommates to give her a hug like she'll never let go?
yeah. basically most of my complaints are in the romance. it's Criminally hetero. and I've dealt with alot of hetero relationships endgame media that would have made more sense and thematical it was queer.. augh. I'm gonna watch warrior nun.
I genuinely hope they were very intentional with writing Enid and Wednesday literally the only one with romantic tension and queer subtext..
like, cmon. Wenclair has paralleled Gomez and Tish so much in this show. be for fucking real.
okay that's it. most of what I've said has been said. last thing I wanna say is thank you for your time and effort to read this and.. Wednesday is both queer coded and autism coded.
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a lil rant
general TW before reading, it's a bit of a sob story but I need to get it out
It's very hurtful to see SO many anti-endos say "I dislike endos because they are always xyz" and generalizing this entire group saying we take away resources for traumatized systems, invade their safe spaces, and tell them hurtful things (like threatening or insulting)
because a lot of us don't do any of those things, but it seems like quite a few anti-endos feel the need to call out endos on these things they assumed they have done simply because they are an endo system
This generalizing needs to stop, especially for systems like mine who are mixed origins. No, we do need our trauma resources, we are traumatized and we aren't taking up your resources, we are using the resources that we need too
We have OSDD-1b and understand the crippling difficultly that comes with our disorder and how important having resources, but telling people that are trying to find ways to cope with their situations that they are not valid and not worthy of trying to help themselves is not helpful for anyone
Having DID/OSDD exclusive spaces is awesome and can be super helpful for many different reasons like sharing struggles and resources, but we don't see how anti-endo spaces are at all helpful
Like we said before, we have OSDD-1b, however I myself am an endogenic headmate, I was NOT formed from the systems trauma and was instead formed by an alter within our system with a role to help us better function
Excluding our system, other mixed origins system, and pro-endo traumagenic systems from these DID/OSDD spaces is restricting their access to these resources that they need too!
Not understanding endos or questioning endos is a normal thought process for one who isn't endogenic or educated on endogenic systems, and in fact it's great to do your own research and come to your own conclusion rather than conform to what everyone around you thinks
However to conclude within your head that endos are all terrible people who "steal" resources and invade safe spaces is jumping to a very big conclusion
Again, it's ok to be endo neutral or to question/not understand, but to attack, demonize, slander, and harass endo systems, endo safe spaces, and endo supporters isn't a positive thing
Nobody is perfect, not everyone agrees with everyone, but by no means is bullying acceptable
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boundaries are important, i'll give you that.
breaking boundaries is not good. forgivable if by accident, harder to forgive if on purpose. we do personally agree that if it's correcting misinfo (in a calm and civil manner and not explicitly or even implicitly malicious) it is alright.
now, you cannot define someone's opinion of people based on their interaction boundaries. you cannot define a whole group of people as bad, if some of them break boundaries.
respecting boundaries is important. respect in general, is important and a norm.
do not be a bitch to each other.
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yknow those ostensibly feminist arguments about women "turning into men" or "acting like men" or "adopting masculine values" instead of embracing their femininity and upholding their feminine values as if the former is behavior is well within the confines of patriarchy while the latter isn't
my question is what ARE those feminine values? where did they come from? because unless they're let's say something essential to women they must have a history, they must've come from somewhere at some point. and where and when is that if not the very same institutionalized patriarchy which needs men AND women to act upon and in turns needs men AND women to perpetrate it? doesnt this make them as much as masculine values a product of patriarchy and so equally patriarchal? if not in and of themselves then certainly as the two distinct and complementary sets of "masculine values" and "feminine values"
if we say that going to work vs staying at home are the patriarchal paradigm then staying at home certainly inst inherently less patriarchal and more feminist than going at work. of course each of those behavior is patriarchal insomuch as it is part of the paradigm, so women doing one or the other is kinda irrelevant as long as the goddamn paradigm continues to exist.
so why do some feminists complain that women act the way the patriarchy typically wants their men to act ("mannish"/"unladylike") and that they should instead act the way the patriarchy typically wants their women to act? like hello do we hear ourselves?
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