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loganslowdown4 · 4 months
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Logan: Ok, I got a box. You’re each going to put something you love or hold most dear inside for the time capsule
Roman: Can I put Patton in the box?
Logan: No.
Virgil: Can I put Patton in the box?
Logan: N-no, wha—
Janus: Can I—
Logan: NO ONE IS PUTTING PATTON IN THE BOX
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sanders (a)sides spoilers!!!!
WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE NEW EPISODE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AS AN ANALOGICAL AND MOCEIT SHIPPER I AM ABSOLUTELY LOSING MY SHIT OHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGODOHMYGOD
THE WAY VIRGIL MADE LIKE A PUZZLE TYPE THING FOR LOGAN BECAUSE HE KNEW HE WOULD LOVE IT??? OH MY GOD
THE CARD THAT JANUS MADE FOR PATTON 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 IM SO HDKDKRKDKKDKFKEKRKRNEOEOEOIFPWIFOEJFKSORKDLKDDK
THE END CARD WITH NICO????? I ACTUALLY SCREAMED /POS
THE WAY JANUS AND REMUS TRIED TO RILE LOGAN UP TO MAKE HIM ANGRY IM GONNA LOSE MY MIND HELLLLLLOOOOOO???????
THE WAY VIRGIL KNOWS ABOUT THE INSIDE JOKE BETWEEN JANUS AND REMUS WITH HOW MR FUZZY WAS MADE AND HIM HATING THAT HE KNOWS ABOUT IT OH MY GOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDD
THE WAY THOMAS SAYS “YOURE DOING GOOD LOGAN” AWEEREEHRHEHEHHDJEHRJEIRKRJEJRJ IM GONNA SOB AND CRY AND HEAVE ON THE FLOOR AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND AND—
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funnyshapedpuddles · 3 months
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hi I'm late but here
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unhappy late birthday janus, i hope it was terrible ;)
anyways Patton made the hats.
if you're wondering where Remus's hat is, we dont talk about it.
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let-roman-bite-someone · 10 months
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virgil, janus and remus meets up once a week to compete and see who has the best Villain Laugh™
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sillysymbol · 4 days
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found a mr bungle cover of whip it devo MY LIFE IS COMPLETE
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lovecorepatton · 6 months
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i hope patton is ok forever. she deserves it
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exsqueezememacaroni · 10 months
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Maybe Im just missing something but I straight up didnt understand Pattons name for over a year.
Not like pronounciation or anything, but because my writing obsessed ass couldnt process why Morality was named after Pathos. Yes hes emotions right but if his main thing is Morality why on earth isnt he Ethos, since Ethos is literally to appeal to a readers sense of right and wrong.
I still do not understand but I have just accepted it.
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soysaucevictim · 1 year
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I guess I feel like sharing those other pictures I took when I finished that set of bags I made for my set of Crofters jars.
(Warning for some grief talk in the read more segment to that post.)
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nandysparadox · 7 months
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ok im tired of not seeing my own poll results 😭 ill vote for the one i think is losing the worst so it doesn't mess with it too much
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raccocoo · 1 year
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I'm actually really romantic. I'm kind of emo. I'm actually really conservative— in thought. But you know I'm a millennial, so I don't really like being put into a box. I can't explain, but if you get it, you get it. If you don't, you dont.
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beauty-and-passion · 2 years
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Losing My Motivation: creating logically
Hello dears and welcome to the first name reveal of the show.
From now, things will start to change. These characters, who were just figures for funny sketches, will now become something more.
Using a nameless figure is one thing. You are not so fond of it and why should you be? It's just a figure. It's a bit like thinking of a new story and starting to imagine your character. Or drawing a random person. They are just a human-shaped thing, a plot device. You have no affection for it.
But as soon as this human-shaped thing gets a name, you start to care. This is not just a plot device anymore: this is something important. This is something you made.
I am sure this is what happened to Mr. Sanders too. Once he gave a name to his characters, they became something more. And so, even the setting in which they were used became something more than just "funny sketches".
I think this is the moment when Thomas and Joan started to think about a real, continuative plot. Maybe they still didn't have in mind everything that would've happened, nor that they would've added more Sides... but I am sure they started to think about it.
But let's not get too ahead of ourselves: let's focus on this episode first. There is not too much, but what we have is quite important.
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Over Perfectionism
Let's recap the episode: Thomas didn't prepare anything for the new video, because he didn't feel motivated enough. So his Logic decided to question why this is happening and find the culprit. Of course it's the Side who likes detective stories to do a little investigation.
The first suspect is Anxiety but, aside from being his usual self and openly admitting he is the one who makes Thomas avoid everything (as we saw in FWSA), he's not the real culprit here.
And so, we moved to Creativity. And, for the first time, we mention one of his big issues: perfectionism.
[Thomas]: I mean, basic ideas are one thing, but a good idea is what I struggle with. [Princey]: Well, if it’s not a perfect idea, it’s not good enough. You don’t want to put out anything but your best.
We will see the consequences of this way of thinking in a couple of episodes, but I am sure you can already imagine how heavy this way of thinking is on Roman.
Unlike Remus, who just creates whatever he wants and is happy like that, Roman wants to make the best thing ever, every time. If it's not a perfect idea, it's not even worthy of attention.
This is a common problem every artist faces, especially the young ones. I know, I still face it from time to time. We feel we cannot create something ordinary and boring, we should do the best thing EVER, no matter how long we have to wait for the right idea. And that leads to not creating at all, because we keep waiting for that miraculous, perfect idea to fall upon us.
Roman will realize it in a couple of episodes: for now, he says "ah yes, I shouldn't be so picky" - but he will quickly forget what he learned and come back being pickier than ever. Very human, very understandable (you can't pretend to change right after realizing what you did wrong) and the perfect excuse for another episode centered around the issue.
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"The whole vision of the creating process"
[Morality]: It’s just that when I think about "making a video", it’s just this weird, mushy vision. [Thomas]: Well that’s not... good. [Morality]: It’s almost like the whole vision isn’t there to begin with. [Logic]: Well, yes, we established that in order to have a vision for a video, we need to encourage creativity to come up with a basic idea. [Morality]: NO, I mean the whole vision of the creating process! [Logic]: What? [Morality]: This whole time, we’ve been trying to get at the root of what causes procrastination. I think this could all be really helped by... [Thomas]: ...making a plan to AVOID procrastination.
Have you ever stopped thinking that the episode in which we learned Logic's name isn't about something strictly logical?
When we learned Creativity's name, we were talking about the creative process. When we learned Morality's name, we had a very important episode about Thomas' birthday, growing up and how important Morality is. When we learned Anxiety's name, we learned a lot about him, his roles and how he's actually a good boy.
Same goes for Deceit and Dark Creativity: we learned Deceit's name, after he clearly proved he's more than an evil, deceitful snake. And we found out Remus' name in the same episode in which we learned the importance of this kind of dark creativity.
But when we learned about Logic's name, the episode wasn't about studying or the importance of math or Thomas' career as chemical engineer or anything else strictly logic-related.
We learned his name in an episode in which we explore the importance of logic in the creative process.
Think about the structure of the episode. What did Logan do, when Thomas couldn't find the root of his problem? He did an investigation. And he didn't do it with formulas and math, but by playing the role of a detective and putting on a little show. In other words, he created an art form.
I find it immensely important that the same Side who will blame Thomas for wasting years of chemical engineering and pretends to not like art so much is also the same Side who used art to solve a problem. Once again, it reminds me of his playlist and especially the song Art Is Dead: on a superficial level, the song was mocking the artist. On a deeper level, the song was an ode to art.
We will see a lot of this duality in Logic. He hates art and yet, he uses it. He pretends to be logical all the time, but he actually uses creative mediums. He doesn't want to be an artist and yet, he is and he will always be a fundamental piece of the creative process.
Which piece? The foundation. The one who creates something stable, from which Creativity can bloom. The one responsible to build the "whole vision of the creating process", as Morality said.
It's a fundamental job and yet, we still have not seen him and Creativity talk about it. Logic himself treats his role almost like a desk job, rather than something much freer and creative. He doesn't even acknowledge how much he should be involved in the creating process in general - not just as the foundation, but as the final tester too.
I definitely hope we will see this come up again during his arc, because it connects very well with two other issues Logic has - i.e. his neglected feelings and his inability to be listened to. And I kinda hope the importance of his role will become more evident, thanks to both Creativities, not just one of them.
In case it wasn’t clear enough, yes, I really, really want them all to cooperate.
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Morality is clever, proof #325
[Logic]: Another case closed! And it's all thanks to a brilliant deduction... from Watson. [Morality]: -back to normal getup- Who? [Logic]: -back to normal getup- Never mind...
When even Logan himself admits Morality is clever, then we can be sure he really is clever. Maybe he won’t act like a clever guy, but he truly is.
( Support me on Ko-fi )
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Dare I say it
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Wilbur at Grian
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remus-thecreative · 2 years
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lol we hope patton expresses more and more negative emotions! let him be fucking angry, passionate, etc OPENLY. he hasnt just been repressing himself all the other sides (besides remus maybe) and so many fans have intentionally and unintentionally been repressing/disapproving of anything thats not Happy Pappy Patton or Sad But Still Harmless Patton. his past passive aggression was literally bc he felt like he couldnt be anything remotely "evil" fuck he turned into a giant frog monster due to that and yet!!! the second he voices his opinion in a way thats not kissing ASS. fans call him a master manipulator.
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fatliberation · 7 months
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they have a point though. you wouldn't need everyone to accommodate you if you just lost weight, but you're too lazy to stick to a healthy diet and exercise. it's that simple. I'd like to see you back up your claims, but you have no proof. you have got to stop lying to yourselves and face the facts
Must I go through this again? Fine. FINE. You guys are working my nerves today. You want to talk about facing the facts? Let's face the fucking facts.
In 2022, the US market cap of the weight loss industry was $75 billion [1, 3]. In 2021, the global market cap of the weight loss industry was estimated at $224.27 billion [2]. 
In 2020, the market shrunk by about 25%, but rebounded and then some since then [1, 3] By 2030, the global weight loss industry is expected to be valued at $405.4 billion [2]. If diets really worked, this industry would fall overnight. 
1. LaRosa, J. March 10, 2022. "U.S. Weight Loss Market Shrinks by 25% in 2020 with Pandemic, but Rebounds in 2021." Market Research Blog. 2. Staff. February 09, 2023. "[Latest] Global Weight Loss and Weight Management Market Size/Share Worth." Facts and Factors Research. 3. LaRosa, J. March 27, 2023. "U.S. Weight Loss Market Partially Recovers from the Pandemic." Market Research Blog.
Over 50 years of research conclusively demonstrates that virtually everyone who intentionally loses weight by manipulating their eating and exercise habits will regain the weight they lost within 3-5 years. And 75% will actually regain more weight than they lost [4].
4. Mann, T., Tomiyama, A.J., Westling, E., Lew, A.M., Samuels, B., Chatman, J. (2007). "Medicare’s Search For Effective Obesity Treatments: Diets Are Not The Answer." The American Psychologist, 62, 220-233. U.S. National Library of Medicine, Apr. 2007.
The annual odds of a fat person attaining a so-called “normal” weight and maintaining that for 5 years is approximately 1 in 1000 [5].
5. Fildes, A., Charlton, J., Rudisill, C., Littlejohns, P., Prevost, A.T., & Gulliford, M.C. (2015). “Probability of an Obese Person Attaining Normal Body Weight: Cohort Study Using Electronic Health Records.” American Journal of Public Health, July 16, 2015: e1–e6.
Doctors became so desperate that they resorted to amputating parts of the digestive tract (bariatric surgery) in the hopes that it might finally result in long-term weight-loss. Except that doesn’t work either. [6] And it turns out it causes death [7],  addiction [8], malnutrition [9], and suicide [7].
6. Magro, Daniéla Oliviera, et al. “Long-Term Weight Regain after Gastric Bypass: A 5-Year Prospective Study - Obesity Surgery.” SpringerLink, 8 Apr. 2008. 7. Omalu, Bennet I, et al. “Death Rates and Causes of Death After Bariatric Surgery for Pennsylvania Residents, 1995 to 2004.” Jama Network, 1 Oct. 2007.  8. King, Wendy C., et al. “Prevalence of Alcohol Use Disorders Before and After Bariatric Surgery.” Jama Network, 20 June 2012.  9. Gletsu-Miller, Nana, and Breanne N. Wright. “Mineral Malnutrition Following Bariatric Surgery.” Advances In Nutrition: An International Review Journal, Sept. 2013.
Evidence suggests that repeatedly losing and gaining weight is linked to cardiovascular disease, stroke, diabetes and altered immune function [10].
10. Tomiyama, A Janet, et al. “Long‐term Effects of Dieting: Is Weight Loss Related to Health?” Social and Personality Psychology Compass, 6 July 2017.
Prescribed weight loss is the leading predictor of eating disorders [11].
11. Patton, GC, et al. “Onset of Adolescent Eating Disorders: Population Based Cohort Study over 3 Years.” BMJ (Clinical Research Ed.), 20 Mar. 1999.
The idea that “obesity” is unhealthy and can cause or exacerbate illnesses is a biased misrepresentation of the scientific literature that is informed more by bigotry than credible science [12]. 
12. Medvedyuk, Stella, et al. “Ideology, Obesity and the Social Determinants of Health: A Critical Analysis of the Obesity and Health Relationship” Taylor & Francis Online, 7 June 2017.
“Obesity” has no proven causative role in the onset of any chronic condition [13, 14] and its appearance may be a protective response to the onset of numerous chronic conditions generated from currently unknown causes [15, 16, 17, 18].
13. Kahn, BB, and JS Flier. “Obesity and Insulin Resistance.” The Journal of Clinical Investigation, Aug. 2000. 14. Cofield, Stacey S, et al. “Use of Causal Language in Observational Studies of Obesity and Nutrition.” Obesity Facts, 3 Dec. 2010.  15. Lavie, Carl J, et al. “Obesity and Cardiovascular Disease: Risk Factor, Paradox, and Impact of Weight Loss.” Journal of the American College of Cardiology, 26 May 2009.  16. Uretsky, Seth, et al. “Obesity Paradox in Patients with Hypertension and Coronary Artery Disease.” The American Journal of Medicine, Oct. 2007.  17. Mullen, John T, et al. “The Obesity Paradox: Body Mass Index and Outcomes in Patients Undergoing Nonbariatric General Surgery.” Annals of Surgery, July 2005. 18. Tseng, Chin-Hsiao. “Obesity Paradox: Differential Effects on Cancer and Noncancer Mortality in Patients with Type 2 Diabetes Mellitus.” Atherosclerosis, Jan. 2013.
Fatness was associated with only 1/3 the associated deaths that previous research estimated and being “overweight” conferred no increased risk at all, and may even be a protective factor against all-causes mortality relative to lower weight categories [19].
19. Flegal, Katherine M. “The Obesity Wars and the Education of a Researcher: A Personal Account.” Progress in Cardiovascular Diseases, 15 June 2021.
Studies have observed that about 30% of so-called “normal weight” people are “unhealthy” whereas about 50% of so-called “overweight” people are “healthy”. Thus, using the BMI as an indicator of health results in the misclassification of some 75 million people in the United States alone [20]. 
20. Rey-López, JP, et al. “The Prevalence of Metabolically Healthy Obesity: A Systematic Review and Critical Evaluation of the Definitions Used.” Obesity Reviews : An Official Journal of the International Association for the Study of Obesity, 15 Oct. 2014.
While epidemiologists use BMI to calculate national obesity rates (nearly 35% for adults and 18% for kids), the distinctions can be arbitrary. In 1998, the National Institutes of Health lowered the overweight threshold from 27.8 to 25—branding roughly 29 million Americans as fat overnight—to match international guidelines. But critics noted that those guidelines were drafted in part by the International Obesity Task Force, whose two principal funders were companies making weight loss drugs [21].
21. Butler, Kiera. “Why BMI Is a Big Fat Scam.” Mother Jones, 25 Aug. 2014. 
Body size is largely determined by genetics [22].
22. Wardle, J. Carnell, C. Haworth, R. Plomin. “Evidence for a strong genetic influence on childhood adiposity despite the force of the obesogenic environment” American Journal of Clinical Nutrition Vol. 87, No. 2, Pages 398-404, February 2008.
Healthy lifestyle habits are associated with a significant decrease in mortality regardless of baseline body mass index [23].  
23. Matheson, Eric M, et al. “Healthy Lifestyle Habits and Mortality in Overweight and Obese Individuals.” Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine : JABFM, U.S. National Library of Medicine, 25 Feb. 2012.
Weight stigma itself is deadly. Research shows that weight-based discrimination increases risk of death by 60% [24].
24. Sutin, Angela R., et al. “Weight Discrimination and Risk of Mortality .” Association for Psychological Science, 25 Sept. 2015.
Fat stigma in the medical establishment [25] and society at large arguably [26] kills more fat people than fat does [27, 28, 29].
25. Puhl, Rebecca, and Kelly D. Bronwell. “Bias, Discrimination, and Obesity.” Obesity Research, 6 Sept. 2012. 26. Engber, Daniel. “Glutton Intolerance: What If a War on Obesity Only Makes the Problem Worse?” Slate, 5 Oct. 2009.  27. Teachman, B. A., Gapinski, K. D., Brownell, K. D., Rawlins, M., & Jeyaram, S. (2003). Demonstrations of implicit anti-fat bias: The impact of providing causal information and evoking empathy. Health Psychology, 22(1), 68–78. 28. Chastain, Ragen. “So My Doctor Tried to Kill Me.” Dances With Fat, 15 Dec. 2009. 29. Sutin, Angelina R, Yannick Stephan, and Antonio Terraciano. “Weight Discrimination and Risk of Mortality.” Psychological Science, 26 Nov. 2015.
There's my "proof." Where is yours?
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cryptotheism · 1 year
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One of the funniest things I ever saw was "nerd comedy night" at a local improv theater. Stay with me here. This place was DEAD. I think I was the youngest person there by 20 years. Maybe 12 people in a theater I've seen packed with 200.
It was one guy, and his openers. One of the openers was his kid. He introduced himself as a "corporate comedian" as in, when a corporation needs entertainment at a convention, he gets called.
This dude was the definition of what Patton Oswalt called "Funny, but whatever." Like, 90% of his jokes were recycled from shitty animated cartoons your mom would send you on Facebook back in 2013. Very "Aren't public bathrooms shitty?" Type stuff.
But I was fucking DYING the whole night. Not because the jokes were any good. They weren't good, but they weren't bad either. They were just nothing. I fucking loved it. Every single punchline was just an utter nothing burger of dead air, and he just kept soldiering on. Man put his whole pussy into it, and god bless him for it. Like this dude knew he was bombing, but that didn't stop him for one second, he slammed every ounce of charisma he had into
"Hey why don't the air dryers in the bathroom ever work?????"
SILENCE.
But what really fucking got me, what really fucking got me, was the bit before his closer. Everyone who knows stand up comedy knows you save your funniest bit for last. It's one you have down pat. You put your worst but right before it. If this dude was doing what he did on purpose, he would be a genius.
He put his whole pussy into the setup, nail the turn, and then lose confidence like 80% of the way into the punchline.
"nothing in the bathroom works! Nothing! Except for the sensor that flushes the toilet! You relax for two seconds and it's shooting water at your butt! That thing works too damn..., Uh, well. Heh. Haha. Heeh. (Mutters) it works too damn well, uh, folks."
Shit killed me. I was genuinely laughing so hard I think it confused the poor guy. I hope he knows that I still use that take today, and I think back to him every single time I do.
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