#redemption hans

[gunslingersandothersins]

Going back through my recordings and realized I captured a movie scene during one of my rides

[johanna-swann]

I was hesitant to even bring this up because I don't want to be that white queer woman who downplays racism, but on the other hand I'd love some input on this from non-white Bucktommy shippers or people of colour who are neutral about Tommy. How am I gonna learn if I don't ask?

Okay, so this is what I see from my limited point of view on the show and fandom:

According to the haters Tommy is a raging, irredeemable racist.

Tommy in canon made one joke about mistaking Chimney for a delivery boy 20 years ago.

And I'm not saying it wasn't a racist, inappropriate joke because it was. But is there no a middle ground between "perfectly innocent cinnamon roll who never did anything wrong in his life" and "irredeemably evil villain"? 20 years have passed and Chimney thinks Tommy is quote unquote "so cool!"

Am I the one who's totally off saying Tommy wasn't as bad as a lot of people are saying?

[princess-ibri]

The Wicked Prince

Chapter 1 : Part I

Beginning

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[thedesertpenguin]

Instead of redemption I think Hen and Chim are going to whack Gerard with a Looney Tunes-eque mallet

[dromaeo-sauridae]

sum arfurs and a screenshot redraw idk i just need to figure out how to draw bgs

[theweeklydiscourse]

Tbh I’ve never really viewed Han’s death as an insurmountable moral obstacle in Kylo’s redemption arc. This could be because I personally don’t have many strong or passionate feelings about him as a character, but I also think that from a story perspective, it’s because his death has a relevant narrative function for Kylo’s character arc.

The fact that the movies take the time to show the viewer his guilt and turmoil over the event, telling Rey that he didn’t hate Han, Snoke berating him for being so shaken by it, these are clear examples of his progression towards redemption. Especially considering that Han had already forgiven his son for killing him and his death acted as a symbolic gesture to give him a push in the right direction. Because it was precisely Han’s death that was the catalyst for Ben’s development in the subsequent movies. I guess I just don’t really see it as a huge deal, Han died loving his son and what better way to honour his sacrifice than for it to eventually culminate in his son returning back to the light?

[jackwhiteprophetic]

Do you guys think Maddie got to keep any of the pictures of all three Buckley siblings together or did her parents take that from her as well? Or maybe their parents never even took pictures of the three of them.

[wintersovereign]

Hans Redemption: A Lesson On Love

I often see people who aren’t fans of Hans being shipped with Anna or Elsa asking how anyone can stand writing it. It seems so toxic. He tried to kill them. Well, @umbravirtus and I have been talking about the subject for YEARS and we've come to the conclusion, it all comes down to love. Love and all of its forms is a central theme of Frozen. There's a whole song about it. People make bad choices when they're mad, or scared, or stressed. But throw a little love their way and you'll bring out their best. Giving Hans plots that center around his redemption through love and forgiveness doesn't excuse his actions. Quite the contrary. It forces him to take accountability, reflect on them, and feel remorse. It's acknowledging that people who experience childhood abuse and do bad things as a result of that trauma are not morally flawed. These plots are about that character's journey of making the right choices, taking accountability, and healing so the cycle of abuse stops with them. We see these arcs in fiction all the time and they're often loved by the same people who seem to despise helsa and hansanna. My question is why? What makes him any different than any of those other characters? Seeing characters being given not only forgiveness and love despite their awful actions is catharsis for us. We need to know that when we do bad things, we're not bad people. We all make mistakes. We all do things that hurt others, we are imperfect beings and we need to know that there is always an opportunity for us to do the next right thing.

[juliet25blog]

Disney I'm BEGGING you to bring back Hans for Frozen 3, AND THIS TIME WITH A REDEMPTION ARC

[pirate-of-the-southern-isles]

Hans: ...before we start, may we lay down some ground rules?

Olaf: Sure?

Hans: Are you going to hit me with that stick if I answer wrong?

Olaf: ...no? Why would I?

Hans: Thank you, I just wanted to be sure.

Very helpful tutorial on the sea: https://youtu.be/aZzxFr5tQ_w?si=kdvGfwLlu6JZj80f

[iambellarose1816]

Me wanting Santino and Idina to sing a duet for F3 🥰🥰🥰

[mlmshipbracket]

ROUND 1: POLL #11

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[princess-ibri]

The Wicked Prince

Prologue Part II

Shorter one this time but hope ya'll enjoy!

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[kittyandco]

breathes in

okay. i have literally never seen anyone advocate for hans' potential redemption because he "never did anything wrong," or solely because he was abused and therefore free of all blame (and yes, his abuse is CANON), or ESPECIALLY because he's hot. ever.

what fans are saying is that they want someone who's been hurt by the people who should have been protecting him and raising him and loving him finally achieving some kind of freedom from such deeply ingrained trauma, beginning by making amends with the people he hurt. his reasons are inarguably linked to his past; he didn't decide to commit attempted regicide and treason out of nowhere, and we know that. he saw it as an out. a desperate, last-ditch effort.

we want to see him move on. because, decidedly, he was not dealing with what he went through in any meaningful way. he was pursuing something that he thought would free him from constant inadequacy, but it was only reinforcing the same hierarchy that, in part, pushed him to this point. he wanted to achieve some semblance of freedom by escaping the southern isles, and he felt that this was his only way... but in many ways he would be living in the shadow of his family. he'd be proving that power & status is all that matters, no matter the cost, like his family (especially his father) taught him.

he's been treated as nothing more than a servant, a doormat, an easy target. why would he suddenly stop believing these things about himself the moment he became king? that's just it: if he takes the steps to redeem himself in some way, he may be able to break free of this self-image. he can be better than his family, and especially his father, who he doesn't want to become but whom he is dangerously close to becoming.

and in a film like frozen, where "letting go" and acknowledging your pain head-on, seeing hans actively not do these things, rather painting over it all with power and status, hurts a little. if you relate to any of the characters in any capacity, then you probably understand the hurt that comes with denying your feelings, your experiences that got you here, all your traumas and fears, and how quickly it can spiral. how it can turn you into a different person entirely, often a person that you don't like being.

that's what hans represents for so many people. for many, he's what we could become (hence why he's symbolic of the evil mirror from the original tale). but he also represents protection in an unsafe situation that you feel that you cannot escape. he blends in easily with any situation; he had to learn this for his survival. all we want is to see a reality where he doesn't have to do any of this anymore, just like we wanted to see elsa free of the fears of herself and her surroundings that held her back, and it begins with him being honest about what he did and trying to make amends.

i could go on and on about the ways i personally relate to him. but these are just a few examples and how redemption plays a role.

this is not "apologia." (i know it's coming.) this is simply an explanation as to why people might connect with someone like hans and would want to see him heal. in a film about healing relationships with oneself, a redemption arc would fit right in, and would show people that it's never too late. elsa & anna don't have to forgive him, but the fact that he might be able to try to seek forgiveness and a brighter fate is enough.

you don't have to sympathize with him, or even empathize with him. you can say he belongs in the trash can forever for all i care. but don't misrepresent our wish to see someone we connect with improve meaningfully and the reasons why we would want it.

[tiredcowgirls]

Bi Han headcannons!

Growing up he was distant and rarely spoke but he was still very kind and gentle to his brothers. It wasn’t until after he started killing and his mothers death that any of the kindness in him died.

Although Kuai Liang and Tomas also grew up under their fathers strict training. Bi Han had it worse to the point of abuse. Letting his father die was easy for him and something his brothers would never understand.

Doesn’t care about his appearance or health as long as it doesn’t get in the way of training or fighting.

Eats very little. Just enough.

When they took Tomas in he was very young and obviously hurt he required a lot of attention which only made bi han resent him as he thought he had it easy compared to him having to almost die for someone to notice.

Black and white thinking. You’re either a weak nobody or someone strong worthy of his respect.

Doesn’t like music or alcohol or gambling. He thinks they are useless and just a distraction from his goals. He also considers people who consume said things to be stupid.

I think this kind of thinking is common with abuse victims when you have a more violent parent and a more passive one you look at the passive one as your savior or as the good one because technically they are not hurting you. Bi Han had this relationship with his mother.