#rtte spoilers

[msnewobsessioneveryweek]

THE GENERATOR TOOK STOICK'S HELMET-

Race to the Edge season six spoilers

[000marie198]

Dagur: "And you carry-! A shield?"

Hiccup: "Yeah yeah. Just a shield. Just a plain old shield."

Dagur: "Very... ornate. My sister had one just like that."

In RTTE, when Heather is reminiscing about what she remembers of her birth father, she mentions about the shield, saying something along the lines of, "He would sometimes let me play with his shield".

And during her flashback, we see her playing with said shield and Dagur running around being his deranged self in the background.

I find it endearing how that shield is the one thing both siblings recall vividly from when they weren't yet separated.

[karamina]

HTTYD Villian Poll (SPOILERSSS!!!!!!)

Not sure if this one's been done before, but I am curious. Post additional options in the comments.

[processing-toaster]

i cannot begin to describe how angry dagur’s shaven face makes me

[flirtycrab29]

he may have brought back a centuries long dead plague to capitalize off of the cure, but damn he babbygirl!

[hmmithinkimanartist]

Did you know that there are very few art with Throk?

So Ulyana got to the island of Caldera Kei when she was 16 years old. She is a year older than Hiccup and the others.

[httyd-dump]

This might Just Be Me but like i really like the jokes about hiccups leg in rtte. Its not really Bullying, and i feel like all of their characters just wouldn't work if it was never acknowledged, because None Of Them could realistically go more than ten minutes without cracking a joke about it

anyway this is my first post enjoy my Autism Thoughts

[hiccbae]

Snotlout, entering the clubhouse while Hiccup and Astrid are setting the table: Hiccup, you cooked?

Astrid: How did you know it wasn’t me?

Snotlout: There’s six people in the Edge, and you’d be my tenth guess.

[its-raining-tonight]

HTTYD Race to the Edge season 5 episode 13 (Sins of the Past) SPOILER

I'm watching rtte for the first time, yesterday I watched the season 5 finale where we find out that Heather had a dragon eye lens with her since the beginning in her belt

I cannot tell you how dumb I'm feeling since yesterday, how did I spent 5 seasons WITHOUT NOTICING IT?? No fr, I had to go and see if it was really there since season 1, and it was-

It's still bugging me help

[ashleybenlove]

Murtagh goes to a place where Galbatorix killed the leader of the Ringers 100 years prior and is very upset and Thorn takes offense when Murtagh sounds okay with the possibility of never being born.

"I chose to hatch for you, Murtagh. I do not wish for another."

[coldstrawberryenemy]

Can everyone just agree Snotlout was absolutely in love with Thor Bonecrusher?

[000marie198]

He was still deranged before the redemption arc but you can't tell me that isn't a touch of concern there

[evilwriter37]

If I had a nickel for every time one of Alfred Molina's characters turned to good and sacrificed themselves in the end, I'd have two nickels. It's not a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.

[howtodrawyourdragon]

You know, when the Sky Torcher got killed by Jörmungandr at the end of season 7, with the sound of bones snapping and everything, but then it turns out in season 8 that he was "almost killed", I was a little annoyed. (There wasn't even a plot reason for him to survive)

But then I just rewatched season 6's Webs' Masters, an episode in which two Deathgrippers (you know, two "evil" dragons) got killed because something bigger ate them, the episode takes place in the Giant's Realm.

Just like with the Sky Torcher, it happened offscreen, there was a juicy snap, but unlike the Sky Torcher, they don't come back.

These ^^^ are the faces of dragons and their riders who just saw two dragons get munched and crunched by something really big the second they dared to take flight.

Like Alex states; "it sounded like granola cereal."

I find it's interesting that both this episode as well as the episode in which the Sky Torcher got "killed" were both written by John Tellegen, the man who famously wrote the Hiccup whump episode, Midnight Scrum.

He also co-writes season 8's Of Gods and Monsters, which is the episode that kills Sledkin. This means that every episode with a death was written by good old John Tellegen. (The other co-writer is FM De Marco, who wrote episodes likes Buffalord Soldier.)

I think the Sky Torcher was meant to die, but that there might've been some pushback, which lead to the reveal in season 8 that the Sky Torcher somehow survived getting crunched by Jörmungandr.

[chitaayakuqing]

Vigcup is just the HTTYD equivalent of Blackice.

[arcadialedger]

What does canon mean?

Ah, my sweet summer cherub. You must be new to fandom spaces. Don’t worry, I’m here to help you with all of the lingo!

Canon as a fandom term comes from the literary canon, or the set of texts we as a society consider classics/ “high literature”. The concept of the literary canon and whether or not we need to expand it is highly controversial (especially when discussing including more works by women, people of color, queer folks, religious minorities, and other marginalized communities).

Canon in the fandom sense is HIGHLY complicated, as it is a spectrum and the lines get blurry real fast. Essentially, canon means it is official, or in the text from the actual creator/ author. In other words, not fan theories or fan creation. In the age of spin off comics and books with varying input from the initial creator of a property, however, and of social media, what is canon has become very complicated (as I stated above), as things are being confirmed by creators on social media, or in spin off/ merch material, outside of the main body of the series, book, film, etc. This is especially common when it comes to creators confirming characters as queer on platforms such as Twitter, but aren’t confirmed to be queer in the context of the main story.

Take Lilith Clawthorne from The Owl House, or Wendy from Gravity Falls. Lilith was confirmed to be aro ace in an interview/ side material from the show, whereas Wendy was confirmed to be bi on Twitter by series creator Alex Hirsch, I believe.

To what level is these characters queerness canon, when it’s not in the main text of their respective shows at all? And this leads to discussion of what it’s acceptable to ship. General Amaya was confirmed to be a lesbian outside of the main show, and there was controversy towards her still being shipped with a male character. This was confirmed three seasons in with people having shipped her with this male character from day one, as they have a sweet friendship. It’s easy to see how some would wish for it to go the friends to lovers route. However, Amaya is a lesbian. It’s obviously not okay to ship her with a man, right? But what about those who are casual fans of the show and don’t know that Amaya is a lesbian, because they’re not involved in fandom spaces on Twitter? This begs to differ the question— how canon is Amaya being a lesbian, when it’s not even said in the show itself? Sure she’s with a female character romantically in season 4, but for all casual viewers know she could be bi+. The general consensus? If you know that Amaya is intended to be a lesbian, it’s probably not good to ship her with a man.

With canon bi characters like Wendy or Sasha Waybright from Amphibia it’s a bit easier, as bi+ people can be shipped with anyone without it invalidating their sexuality. But what about Lilith Clawthorne, who shouldn’t be shipped with anyone given she’s aroace? What about people who don’t know about that, and ship her with another character in The Owl House? How canon is her aromanticism, when it’s not stated in the show?

There are other examples of what is canon getting complicated outside of sexuality confirmations or headcanons (headcanon= something a fan considers canon in the text until proven wrong, in which case it becomes fanon, or “fan canon”— something a fan wishes was canon). Just look at the How to Train Your Dragon shows, which have gotten completely out of the hands of the original directors and creators behind the films. The original Cartoon Network series can be read as canon, as nothing contradicts the films. However, Race to the Edge and the subsequent shows CANNOT, as they blatantly contradict the films and main text. This is why spin-offs from varying creators under the same IP get so tricky. Race to the Edge has… some continuity from the original series, and at best can be read as “mostly” or “partly” canon, but there are blaring contradictions. It’s definitely not entirely canon— maybe only in its little HTTYD alternate universe it created.

Then you have stuff like The Dragon Prince, whose spin-off material is unquestionably canon and entirely by the original creators— to the point where the novelizations and comics are almost essential reading to understanding the main show. For example, there is a line in s4 that will leave you scratching your head wondering what it means unless you’ve read the novelizations. A huge part of the main couple (Rayllum)’s arc in s4 is entirely based on what happened in the graphic novel Through the Moon.

So, when I say that Sokeefe became canon, I mean they as a couple became official within the context of the Keeper of the Lost Cities series. At least, I presume that post is what this ask was inspired by. KOTLC is a little simpler, as there’s a book series and that is it, no spin-offs or subsequent material. What’s canon is as simple as what Shannon Messenger wrote in the books, compared to what a fan might write in their fanfic.

I hope this helps, as complicated as the answer was, and that you have a better understanding of what canon means after reading this! If you’re still confused don’t worry— hang around Tumblr or other fandom spaces online for a bit and you’ll see it used so often you’ll get a sense of the context and when/ how to use the term.