#so wanted to dig into this

[movedtoferinehuntress]

[ Headcanon ] FAMILY ANCESTRY .

Caitlyn Kiramman by placement and visuals is stated to be a Piltovan 'through and through'. The irony of this is it's the furthest thing from the truth.

While Caitlyn has the title, the money, the status, and the placement nothing within her is Piltovan. Her family ancestry, while they were there during the establishment of Piltover, did not ever really fit into the piltovan standards.

Caitlyn's ancestry in a rough breakdown of percentages is seen as so -> 50% Ionian, 20% Piltovan, 20% Zaunite, and 10% Ixtali. Mixed with the Ionian and Zaunite ancestry is the Vastayan bloodline that is connected to her from both her mother's and father's side.

Tobias Kiramman is part of a bloodline that is pure Ionian. His small village he was a part of rarely had visitors from outside influences, but he met Cassandra when he was visiting one of the larger cities. Tobias's ancestry descends deep into the age of the Vastayashai’rei. His village was known to be home to Vastaya and Humans, but all the humans were gifted with magic. The Vastaya clan was that of Lhotlan when they used to be numerous and wild. It wasn't uncommon for Vastaya to mate with humans, interbreeding between the two that kept this cross of human/vastayan bloodlines.

Tobias is heavily influenced by his culture from Ionia and while he lives in Piltovan, and moved here when he married Cassandra, he does not forget the Ionian ways; including his worship, rituals, and prayers. While he is one of the most influential doctors in Piltover, it does not erase the culture of his past despite how Piltover has tried to assimilate him into the Piltovan way. Tobias provides the primary source of Ionian blood to Caitlyn and much of the vastayan traits she carries due to the Lhotlan bloodline. It's also why she can have the magical ability of empathy due to the natural magic that Vastaya carries.

His family was known as one of the guardian protectors, protecting one of the Guardian Trees in Ionia. Tobias’ family line had a spiritual site where they were deeply connected to a spirit tree, that brought life and water to the land. The people protected the tree and in turn, the tree blessed the line with magic. It allowed the people to connect to nature, bending it to their will and using it to continue to protect the tree. The effects of the magic turned the family line’s hair blue, all variations in connection to the guardian tree was affiliated with.

While Tobias does not have magic, the magic is still within his veins and it in turn, is in Caitlyn. This is why she carries the same genetic color of hair as her father, Blue, due to the connection to the spirit tree and why when the gemstone exploded, Caitlyn’s bloodline surged, like an activation key triggered bringing her empathic magical ability to the surface.

Cassandra is considered to be Piltovan by being born in Piltover, just as Caitlyn; however, the truth of the fact is that everyone in Piltover are not truly Piltovans. Piltover is a melting pot, a place created about three hundred years ago. They are the YOUNGEST civilization among all of Runeterra alongside their sister state, Zaun. This means that everyone who came to Piltover and Zaun are travelers from other locations. The Kiramman bloodline has had nine generations of families which brings mixed ancestry to Caitlyn's bloodline.

The earliest known ancestor in the Kiramman bloodline was named CHIDORI, the daughter of birds. Most Vastaya settled into the region of Zaun, and so Chidori, with her father and mother, settled into Zaun. This was before Zaun or Piltover was ever established, a beginning migration for the bird family to seek out a new home away from Ionia; a place they could call home. Chidori met another Vastaya and they gave birth to CHIZUKI, the daughter of the moon. Chizuki loved living with her parents and working in the mines but she wanted more: she wanted to see the sky, and the moon, and thrive in it. So with her and her mate, they decided to cross the strait of the ocean into the land of Piltover (before it was fully established as Piltover).

Chizuki was around when Piltover and Zaun were established and when relations were good between the two new towns. Piltover and Zaun worked together so it wasn't uncommon for the two people to interact and decide where they wanted to live. It was a blend of cultures before Piltover started to become more greedy and harsh upon Zaun.

CERISE was born to Chizuki, and this is when they settled into Piltover and took up a new name. Due to Chizuki being related to the darkness of the night moon, the beam of the moon's light, being a matriarchy family, and the knowledge and skill to give to humanity, Chizuki took up a last name.

Kiramman.

Kira comes from the root word "Mistress, Lady" along with "beam of light" and "black or darkness". Man is derived from the meaning "person" or "someone" as well as the root word for "hand". So this name Kiramman is meant to be several different concepts. "The light of man", "the darkness of the hand", "Lady Light", and "The Dark Mistress".

Cerise Kiramman, while pureblood Zaunite, was the first woman to become a part of the Piltovan culture and even mated with a Piltovan Vastaya who settled there. Cerise is also the one that set the path for the Kirammans to become the wealthiest, strongest, most powerful house in all of Piltover. Their daughter, CARA KIRAMMAN, was the first-born Piltovan daughter and the first heir to the councilor seat that Cerise was on (as she was one of the founders of the first councilors next to Heimerdinger). This is also after all conflicts began to emerge with Zaun and the sister-states became divided therefore, it was better to 'forget' about the Zaunite heritage despite Cerise being a full-blooded Zaunite. Even Heimerdinger encourages Cerise and Cara to put aside their past and that they need to move forward, progress, away from their savage side, and fully embrace who they are: Piltovans, the keepers of progress and creation.

Cara married an Ionian Man and gave birth to CALYPSO KIRAMMAN and then Calypso after marrying another Piltovan man, gave birth to Charlotte.

CHARLOTTE KIRAMMAN struck back against the concepts of Piltover vs Zaun when she fell in love with a Zaunite. She met him on the wharf of the ocean strait near the Bridge of Progress, and they had secret meetings back and forth. Without her mother's guidance (as Calypso died in childbirth), Charlotte saw no reason not to follow her heart. Despite all the ridicule and actions against Charlotte's behavior, she still married the man she fell in love with and they gave birth to Cora.

CORA KIRAMMAN was the beginning reign of prejudice against Zaunites in the Kiramman household. There was constant strife against Charlotte and her daughter, Cora, who was full of arrogance and a high-horse attitude. Cora refused to even acknowledge her zaunite father (despite looking and acting completely Piltovan, he still had his Zaunite animalistic behaviors). Cora hated Zaunites, hated the city, and hated her parents. The sociopath refuses to dare acknowledge any of them and feels no sadness when she murdered her mother because she wants her out of the way. Cora gave birth to Catherine, and she instilled the same prejudice and hatred of Zaun into her daughter; beginning this drive to erase their own Zaunite heritage and ensure that every Kiramman born would know their place as a Piltovan Heiress and ignore any sort of Behavioral actions that they may gain from their 'tainted ancestral bloodline'. After the birth of CATHERINE KIRAMMAN, Cora even set up an 'accidental death' for her Ixtali husband who was ruled a "suicide" (however Cora had murdered him herself, becoming a black widow of the Kiramman household). Out of anger for Cora (his own daughter) killing his wife and the bitter hatred between the two of them, Leto decided to do what should have been done years ago after the death of his wife. Cora would never go to prison and out of a desire for retribution and anger, he struck out and killed his daughter, because of her actions. In the end, they both died and it was ruled as an animal killing: once again trying to cover up and blame it on Zaun, when it was ultimately Cora's own undoing and what led to her demise.

Left alone with only her devices, Catherine took on this hatred for Zaunites, but not so extreme. Instead, it was simple to perceive Zaunites as not existing and to stay away from Zaun and its brutality. Catherine was so scarred and traumatized from her mother and grandparents' issues that she never truly came to grips with reality. She locked away much of their ancestral information, keeping it hidden from CASSANDRA KIRAMMAN. To ensure nothing like this ever happened again, Zaun must be left alone and they needed not to know they were once Zaunites themselves in their ancestral line. Catherine was a more quiet but firm hand, trying to teach Cassandra and instilling the same prejudices and dislike of Zaun, but more focusing Cassandra on the importance of the council and the rules. It was unfortunately a loveless parent-child relationship, Catherine was scarred after everything that had happened and had never had a chance to process any of it, so she never truly interacted or loved her daughter, only producing an heiress to carry on the council seat. It wasn't long after Cassandra turned twenty-one that Catherine died from a weak heart and came down sick during the winter.

This leaves the story as it was, with Cassandra, a stubborn yet caring woman, trying to take care of her mother who was withering away year by year from depression and anxiety. Cassandra had to take up the position as the leader of the household and became a Councillor when she was barely 18 years old because her mother could not handle it anymore. Cassandra had to grow up too fast, too soon, and too quickly due to her mother's mental deterioration. However, Cassandra took care of her mother, a loving daughter despite how loveless Catherine had been to her. Cassandra had to learn quickly to be stubborn and hardheaded, lock away her emotions, control her enjoyment of danger, and work for the betterment of their family. It's a promise she made to her Catherine, to protect the Kiramman household and ensure it didn't fall. Many of Cassandra's lessons are hard learned and self taught, due to having no direction from her own mother.

And this leads to the birth of CAITLYN KIRAMMAN and where things take off.

[samglyph]

I’m not immune to slasher comedy coming of age musicals. Apparently

[selfindulgentraptor]

Thinking about his wings

[vaguely-concerned]

the fact that iron bull opens his recruitment conversation with pretending he doesn't quite remember the name of the the inquisition's ambassador. Jose-what's-her-name-again. he's just a big dumb jock no thoughts head empty mercenary who likes fighting and drinking don't worry about lil old me inquisitor! I'll hit things for you if you'd like as long as you pay me! ],) and then right after he reveals he's a spy he drops that he knows not only the name of your spymaster and how she operates but also her haircolour. (but like in a safely bro-y way tho! make that fighting and drinking and fucking! I'll be useful to you but in a real meathead non-threatening kind of way I'll be too busy bedding chantry sisters to do any real harm ],) continue to not worry about lil old me inquisitor!)

god bull you're so multidimensionally and fine-tunedly full of shit I love you so much fhdksah

[stuckinapril]

guys does it not scare you that romance is actually dead like even at my age i don’t see anyone else having those whirlwind romances and just having fun w it. it all feels so trite & transactional

[kazieka]

one of the dumb things i like about flight rising is that you can just dissolve familiars for alchemy ingredients. like what the fuck. some nice centaur comes out of the woods like “I Have Seen Your Deeds And I Submit Myself To Your Clan To Learn About You” and youre just like fantastic. get in the cauldron

[jicklet]

Ember and Wade in Elemental (2023)

[lazylittledragon]

i'm sorry but "He likes digging holes" had me ROLLING that's so funny

he's OVERSTIMULATED

[wanologic]

vlad met him there via helicopter

[hinamie]

atla!au designs part 3 !! one of these things is uh. not like the others

first year trio gojo/choso/nanami

[stellas-and-tonitruses]

Everything we know about Project Apple (and, by extension, Anya's past) thus far

thought i'd compile all of that now while endo's on break Just In Case the next chapter happens to start anya's backstory (i don't Think it will but endo likes surprising us LSDFKLFS)

important disclaimer that project apple and the organization in charge of anya's experiments have not been confirmed to be related! there's evidence that they have things in common, in particular employees, but that's our only real connection between the two thus far. still! worth looking into

more under the cut!

so, starting very strongly with the very first mention of anything related to the project: anya's introduction in chapter 1

despite her being a main character, we know very little about her past at the moment, and this little blurb at the beginning makes up a very big portion of what we know.

things to note here:

as an experiment, her name was "Test Subject 007". important to note that the notation differs between her and bond: she was Test Subject 007, bond was Subject 8, no zeroes in there;

she had been made thus by accident, the phrasing itself implying quite heavily that she was just a normal child before said accident (but this is the translation! i don't know japanese so i can't cross-reference with the raws to clarify if the phrasing changes anything, but the fanbook uses the word "gained" to describe her powers too);

because her mind-reading is an unintended consequence, that means the scientists were presumably not, at least initially, trying to achieve cognitive enhancements in humans, and were instead trying to achieve something else, whatever that might've been;

she escaped from the facility and then moved from institution to institution, looking for a family.

so, crucially, through this little introduction we learn that there is an organization, government-funded or otherwise, that is or was conducting human experiments for unknown purposes. we also learn that whatever family anya had prior to being involved in the experiments is more than likely unreachable, at least as far as she knows, and so she has settled for finding a new family to take care of her instead.

in terms of the facility itself, here we see they clearly drilled it into her that she can't ever reveal her secret (and the darn plush is there too -- in the anime it's even more emphasized, as you can see in the gif i made)

through her reminiscing though, we get our very first look at the scientists that were in charge of her! they're in the gif above but here they are in the manga too. it's so interesting that the anime actually shows their eyes behind the glasses though, fascinating choice.

the insistence on world peace is important, as it explains her own personal obsession with it and shows that it's not just because of twilight's own focus on preserving the peace. i also don't think twilight ever really talks about "world peace," only about "preserving the current peace between westalis and ostania" -- anya seems to be the only one talking about WORLD peace (even in the very first scene where either of them mention it in proximity to each other in ch 1, loid says "understanding the other party is the first step towards peace" and anya's interpretation is "understanding me makes world peace?") but take this with a grain of salt because i might be wrong! going through every single mention of peace in the story just to fact check this one little trivia fact is a bit much i think so i'm not doing it JSDFKLSD

but yes

remember mr hair strand and baldy, we'll see them again. not her though, ig she wasn't in charge of bond

now, fast-forwarding to chapter 19, we finally get a name and a premise for the experiments:

"but oana," you might say, "this is talking about animals only! how do we know it's the same project as anya's, which involved human experimentation?"

i don't think it is, is the thing! i think it's related to the experiments anya was a part of, which is evidenced by the same scientists being featured in project apple too, but there's more going on that we don't know about. there wouldn't be such adamancy on keeping the two separate in every official mention of them if they were just the same thing, imo!

back to the evidence, we learn that the project, conducted and funded by the previous ostanian regime (meaning donovan's related to it one way or another, since he was prime minister), was marked by franticness and desperation -- a prime place for accidents like anya's telepathy and bond's future vision.

we also learn that the project was sacked by the new administration and that the former test subjects ended up on the black market.

(this makes it very important, imo, to learn when anya escaped the facility vs. when the project was sacked. it's clearly no longer in function, but while we've heard nothing from them thus far, i'm willing to bet the shady dealings around the desmond group are NOT related to the war, as W.I.S.E. has been led to believe, but rather to reignite project apple. that is speculation however so i'm going to refrain from theorising much on why the desmond group is focused on acquiring pharmaceutical companies!!)

ok speculation tangent over, back on track

so, that's already a decent amount of info! but moving to chapter 22, when bond is finally home, and we finally see some familiar faces

behold! baldy and mr hair strand!

and 2 other guys we don't know but will see again in another bond flashback!

that's 2 out of the 3 scientists we've seen thus far from anya's own time as subject 007, confirming that there IS a connection between anya and bond's experiments, regardless of whatever the project anya was a part of might've been named.

this is also the chapter in which we learn that bond himself was subject 8 (or, if we take it from the fanbook, subject #8. still, diff notation from anya!)

in chapter 31, we learn an interesting tiny piece of trivia. we don't get any further info on it, but it IS mentioned as something that is known by W.I.S.E.:

ostania is rumoured to have done human experimentation! and W.I.S.E., and by extension loid, are aware of that.

do i know how them knowing may be important later? not really!

the next droplet of info we get is in chapter 40. we see that project apple had collaborators that are still functioning unhindered.

of course, born industries is only rumoured to have been involved with project apple, but regardless of whether or not they actually were, the rumour itself implies that the project likely pulled scientists from various other companies' R&D departments.

(this makes the desmond group's acquisition of glooman pharmaceuticals shadier, but anyway)

as a side note, twilight is emoting so much at just his wrong assumption that bond is seeking revenge against the scientists. imagine how he's going to react when he finds out about anya JKSDFKLFSD

and now aaaaall the way in chapter 58, we see the bald guy who anya also knows, the two scientists from bond's previous flashback, and one whole new guy!

and thus ends our current knowledge of it all!

the only other thing worth discussing is anya's knowledge of classical language

but plenty people have already discussed these scenes, especially recently, so here are some links: 1 | 2 | 3

the only thing i can add is that i'm fairly certain that classical language is a lot more likely to be latin than old english, because it's a very common language to learn in school (in europe at least, and ostania is based on east germany so it makes sense to me. i learned mandatory latin in school for a few good years too, even if i wasn't that good at it lol) and because one of the most common modern usages of latin are in medicine and science, it would make sense that she'd be better at it due to exposure.

a possibility is also that the scientists would think in latin to conceal their thoughts from her, and that's how she ended up learning so much. she's not fluent in latin, she's just well acquainted and that cicumstance would explain the how.

BUT THAT'S SPECULATIONNN

also i don't think "ANIA" is an acronym, nor do i think anya's been misspelling her own name out of lack of knowledge. "ania" is a polish diminutive of anna and an alternate transcription of Аня, so i think it's far more likely that anya isn't ostanian or westalian than it is that her name comes from an acronym.

now,

TL;DR!

what we know about project apple (and the "mysterious organization"):

project apple was funded and conducted by what appears to have been donovan's regime and, from what W.I.S.E. knows, aimed to create highly intelligent animals for military purposes;

W.I.S.E. is aware that ostania is at the very least rumoured to have dabbled in human experimentation;

the project is presumably no longer on-going, though it is likely there are efforts behind the scenes to revive it;

it is rumoured but not confirmed that project apple had collaborating companies that are still functioning perfectly fine;

the same scientists who were in charge of bond were also in charge of anya, signalling that there is a very significant connection between project apple and the "mysterious organization;"

based on what they were telling anya, they were/are very focused on "world peace";

their experimentation methods include but likely aren't limited to electrocution.

and what we (vaguely) know about anya that relates to this:

she is at the youngest, 4 years old, and at the oldest, 5 nearing 6. we don't know her real age, all we know is she definitely lied about being 6;

she is very fixated on specifically world peace while twilight is focused on peace between ostania and westalis. the scientists are the very first we see talking about this, so it's likely their fault;

she is unreasonably well acquainted with classical language;

she has escaped the facility at LEAST 1 year ago;

and, one tidbit from the fanbook (page 29): "Anya has been reading minds for as long as she can remember," implying that her memory of a life before the lab is muddy at best and absent at worst.

that's all we know that i know of!!

if you got this far, thank you for reading :D hope any of this was interesting or sparked any theories >:] have a good day!

[maomango-doodle]

"And I hope you die, I hope we both die."

(Lyrics : No children by The Mountain Goats)

[tanglepelt]

Dpxdc 177

Danny and Damian are twins. Danny was killed by Damian obviously. The normal only one heir business.

When he was put into the pit. Either by a guilt ridden Damian or Talia late in the night. He vanished. Natural portal whipped him away. Right in the path of Jack and Maddie. They adopt the little 8 year old who has no memories of his past.

Normal stuff happens. Danny dies a second time becomes a halfa and befriends cujo.

Now cujo loves Danny and loves to visit him. Too bad cujo gets Damian confused with Danny. But hey. He had two people now. Double the pets.

One day Danny is playing with cujo and cujo unannounced decides his ppl need to meet.

Danny was clearly confused. First where is he? Cujo that was completely naughty behavior. Then there was a dude staring at him. A doppelgänger? Another clone? Like this dude looked nearly identical to him besides the eyes.

Now Damian. Damian recognizes Danny right away. Now he likely thinks this is a clone or something.

[wildgeese98]

It's kind of unfortunate that the only bit of characterization for original! Elias that's widely talked about is him being a stoner. It's true that for a long time that's literally the only thing we got. One funny throwaway line. But we do learn a bit more in mag 193 (one of my favorite s5 episodes incidentally) and it makes him a much more interesting and tragic character.

Elias was an aimless rich kid trying and failing to live up to his father's high expectations for him. He was raised to believe that he deserved success and power simply because of the family he was born into. It's implied that this alienated him from his peers leaving him incredibly isolated. It probably also meant he didn't have a lot of control over his own life, following the path he was expected to rather than what he acctually wanted. Even before being marked by the Eye he probably felt like was constantly watched and judged, and found wanting.

The statement draw heavy parallels between original! Elias and Jon. In fact the line between them gets very blurred as Jon "plays" Elias in the statement and Elias's VA plays Jonah in the body of James Wright. Jon and Elias are both parallels and opposites. They were both marked and drawn to the Institute by that mark.

Elias had the conviction that he was destined to be important and he was right the most perverse, twisted way possible. He was only ever there to be used and used completely. To the point were he ceased to be, leaving only his body to puppeted by Jonah.

Jon had no such conviction, and yet he became literally the most import person in the world. But that was only after being moulded and completely reshaped by Jonah. He in a way lost almost as much autonomy and control of his body as Elias did. Though he at least got to keep his mind, for the most part.

This has gotten away from me a bit, but the point remains. Elias, like a lot of TMA characters, is a fascinating person who we only get to see brief snatches of. I think about him a lot. I especially think about how horrifying it must have been to realize, for the briefest moment, that his mind and body were being completely taken over, right before his consciousness was snuffed out.

[lgbtiwtv]

GODDD louis and identity!!!!!! he’s always performing he’s always repressing and vampirism didn’t free him from a damn thing he’s the breadwinner, the favored son, the gentle hand, the kind word, the black sheep, the outcast, the lover, the father, the brother, the mourner, the saint, the vampire with the guilt that weighs him down that pulls him under and makes him beautiful and yes he’s drowning but at least he’ll die human even that creates another layer between himself and the rest of the world and he literally can’t go on like this so. so

[charlie-rulerofhell]

Pick up the pace, pack up the gear Gimme some face, a souvenir Here come the gays, here comes the fear Now we're having fun