#specifically bc of magolor but-

[starflungwaddledee]

starflung's 2023 advent 4/8 🔔 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 🔔

a festive selection of little guys! the one on the end is plushie magolor specifically, showing off his early christmas present headband 🎄🔔

[cloud9v]

[ceragolor]

Magomarch Day 25: Dangerous Dinner

Feels like home...

[gemapples]

not spoiling (major) specifics with the magoland novel but im just gonna say it's looking VERY very good so far

i am praying so hard that they don't fuck magolor up at the end again and i will genuinely be so disappointed if they make him the antagonist bc of this, kirby even mentioned that if magolor fucks up again he'll beat him up LMAO so magolor Is already perfectly aware of this these chapters have made it seem like he genuinely just wants to apologize and be friends with everyone i really hope this is finally the start of his novel redemption arc

[mistilteinn-magolor]

hey guys do you wanna see old doodles that range from 6 months to a year old?? no?? well sucks to be you i guess

under the cut we fly

we got:

the first time i drew taranza over a year ago!! also WOW i could not draw magolor- tho tbh i still like the ranza except for a few things lol

return to dreamland 11th anniversary art! traditionally bc i didnt trust myself to finish a whole digital drawing in a day lmao

an iono!! actually this is the best iono ive ever drawn i think... SHES SO HARD TO DRAW HELP

stuff went down in a gc with irl friends... yeah

susie tells penny that her name is a currency

insert cash or select payment type

VERY old but also no context. Except that i found a comic by @/daily-magolor where magolor accidentally said two things at once

yes i know the proportions fell off a microwave and died help-

umm also old but me and my mom were watching tangled and uh. i started making the characters into kirby/pokemon ones... this is based on that scene in the ugly duckling where rapunzels hair is like going through many mens hands or something

n from pokemon was rapunzel (it really fits haha-), magolor was flynn i mean eugene for some reason?? oh yeah because they both stole crowns- and dmk is no specific dude haha

um no context from an old comic except its the best comic ive ever made

also yes it was mainly kirby fhghfgfgf this was when i was going from pokemon brainrot to kirby brainrot haha

this is one of my favorite things ive ever drawn. enjoy

annnnnd last but not least a 2 imager yay!! tbh i dont even remember the context for this one...

ghetsis bad dad

[desultory-novice]

hi. uh. i have recently heard that marx, in the original japanese translation, is implied to have just. always had his powers??????????? this is. so so strange to me. bc of. yknow. similarities to Things In RTDLDX. as well as void termina having similar wings ???????? like ????? it makes so much more sense that he wished to rule popstar so nova granted him the powers so he'd have the capabilities to overthrow anybody who stands in his way (except kirby of course) AND NOVA WAS MADE BY THE ANCIENTS !!! SO!! THE SIMILARITIES IN His POWERS MAKE SENSE!!

is this. unfortunately true? :') and.. if so.. where does it say this and how.. and.. why.. ough ough ough ouhg...

(sorry if you're busy, this is just on-par with Magolor's bombshell of "actually im not from halcandra lmfao" and COMPLETELY shattered everything i thought i knew and i dont know how to find anything about this that better explains it!!)

So, I'm probably the biggest "Marx got his powers from Nova" stan in the fandom (?) and I am more than happy to talk about this! (While noting that, even though I believe in it now, and have "evidence" for it, I accept that things change in Kirby. Until it does, ala "I'm not really from Halcandra," I remain staunchly Nova-Wings)

Anyway, since you said the original Japanese, I went ahead and compiled EVERY line of dialogue relating to Marx in Kirby Super Star / Super Star Ultra! All re-translated by yours truly!

Let's see what it says!

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[Instruction Manual]

"The sun and the moon got in a big fight, and now night and day in Dream Land are all jumbled together. Marx the Magician has told Kirby this can be resolved by linking up the planets in the vicinity of Pop Star and summoning the giant comet. What will Kirby do?"

[Opening Cutscene]

"Hey, hey, hey!" / "You want the sun and moon to make up, right?" /"Then you ought to make a wish on the comet, Nova, located in the furthest reaches of the galaxy!" / "But don't go thinking it'll be as easy as all that!" /"To summon Nova, you need to link up all the nearby planets to gather enough energy!" /"It'll be a long journey, but hey, do your best!" /"After all, everyone's counting on you. Good luck!"

[Cutscene 2]

"READY >" / "I WILL GRANT JUST ONE WISH OF YOURS... >"

"Then... I want Pop Star to be all mine!"

"OK > 3 2 1 GO! >"

"I did it! Just like I hoped!" / "The sun and moon fighting? You going on a journey into space?" / "All of it was my part of my perfect little plan!" / "Anyway, Pop Star's mine now!" / "Now I can play all the tricks I want! Sorry not sorry!" (1) / "Ho ho ho ho ho! O ho ho ho ho ho!"

[Starship - Pause Screen]

"The Starship was created with the power of the stars!! Fly, toward Nova's core. Put a stop to Marx's ambitions (2) then have a good meal and a nice nap."

[Starship - Pause Screen - SDX version]

"The light of the Milky Way (3) has gathered and when it cleared, the Star Ship was there. Destroy Marx's ambitions with this!"

[Marx - Pause Screen - SDX version]

"Marx has revealed his true intentions. In order to protect Pop Star, it's time to Fly! Kirby of the Stars!"

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I think the issue here is that last part:

"Marx has revealed his true intentions."

Because the bolded text can also interpreted as "true self" and that (plus its usage in other games) has led people to think it is explicitly referring to Marx's exterior. Now, the reason I translated it as "intentions" above is because 正体 can refer to character as well!

Just as an example, when Magolor grabs the Master Crown and reveals his ambitions, you (assuming you were Meta Knight, as he's the only character who would talk like this...) might say to him 「正体を表したな! 」 ("So, you reveal yourself!") even though we know that Magolor's boss form isn't his true form, it's just a transformation.

I'm not here to lecture everyone that this word HAS to specifically be referring to Marx's intentions. The point I want to make is that it is debatable. And it is probably going to remain debatable until Marx makes another appearance and HAL Labs has reason to clarify whether its one way or the other.

(For those who believe Marx's winged form to be his true form, I'd love some theories on why he resembles the Master Crown, Dark Nebula, Void Termina, and other Ancient Artifacts! I really hope we start getting more Marx + Ancients theorizing down the line... Even as a Nova-Wings stan, I'm very interested in this line of thought!)

But, speaking of, I'm such a sap for the Nova-Wings theory I'm going to end this with one more piece of evidence he wasn't born with them...

When you "defeat" Marx, it is visibly only his wings that go haywire. This is another, not often discussed thing that Marx and Magolor have in common. Sure, the fight with Marx doesn't have the cinematic direction that RtDL does, where you can see when using the Ultra Sword that Kirby is striking at the Master Crown, not Magolor, but take that in mind and go backwards. You can assume it is the same with Marx as it was there, because Marx is not yet physically injured, from what we can see.

Ignore the quality. You can watch a non-"upscaled" version for yourself on Youtube and see that his wings start flashing red while lightning arcs across them while he has an expression of shock, not hurt, on his face.

Again, I beg you to remember how the non-cutscene part of the fight ends. Marx stops for just a second mid-air, looking like he's covered in electricity, before his wings cast off stars and start to malfunction, send him rocketing off the screen in the wrong direction. He leaves the surface of the moon (4) while his wings continue to carry him further and further away, out of control until he crashes into Nova.

You, Kirby, didn't technically "defeat" Marx. Like Magolor, who was modeled so closely on him, Marx was yet another victim of an Ancient Artifact going haywire.

And maybe more than we think?!

...But I'll talk about that in another essay I'm working on: "Theme Parks, Mischief, and Corrupted Wishes"

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(1) Marx says "Please forgive me!" or maybe "Pweeeeaswe forgive me" if we're going by intent. Basically, he says he's sorry, but the tone he takes makes it particularly snide + cutesy.

I chose "tricks" not mischief because Marx is very particularly speaking about teasing pranks and jokes. I feel like mischief could be read to mean more and the fact that Marx has such simple ambitions leads into the topic of my follow-up essay.

(2) I mentioned this in another post, but the text uses さっさとhere which ostensibly means "quickly" but is used to diminish the task in question. Kirby is treating stopping Marx not as a thing that needs to be rushed�� because everyone's in great danger but more like because its a nuisance and he needs to get his rest.

(3) They use "Milky Road" in Japanese, which is interesting because the space through Another Dimension is often called "Another Dimension Road." Using Milky Way implies Pop Star is in our universe, but that's what its localized as, so!

(4) Probably it's because of the hearts on his wings, but I've always wondered if Marx's defeat wasn't a subtle reference to Cars' defeat from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. (Is that a MF Jojo's reference?! XD )

[fawfulydoo]

do you guys think my take on marx and kirby is believable in terms of their personalities? i was just thinking about it and i know marx is just kind of part of the main group ig and is friendly with all the main people now despite never been given a proper redemption arc like what happened with magolor so im like. indecisive about if me portraying them as sort of enemies (or more specifically kirby dislikes him bc he tricked him and marx teases him because kirby bc that’s just how he is) is realistic. like i know kirby is supposed to be naive and is sort of “the embodiment of friendship” but i’m also thinking about the fact that kirby is an emotional character that can easily lose his temper. i’d like to hear y’alls thoughts on this because i’m all about getting characters right, even in fan content so if i ever do more with them i’d want to portray them right.

[fecto-forgo]

my toxic trait is i go to make a tier list but i keep adding more and more and more and more tiers n then ive used up all the damn tier colors again.nyways rambles

-dont ask me to explain susie/zan my bestie mentioned it once n i thought it sounded cute then i thought more abt it n was admitted to an asylum for developing a new mental illness over them but i have aphasia i unno how to explain it listen it just works ok

-i am only capable of truly liking doomed ships n foil ships n oddly specific crackships.alas why every tier after sectonia/taranza is not an actual ship i have

-metadedede to me is like.sorry beforehand but its kinda like when a show has a straight ship thats quite cute so you dont actively ship it but you do think "aw thats sweet :)" when you see stuff of them.sorry for claiming theyre similar to a straight ship again

-carol/leon is that too but slightly less effective bc theyre not as established as meta n dedede

-i dont ship ribbon/adeleine but a mutual does so its the best of the ships in the yellow tier btw

-i think magolor should just be stuck forever to be platonically obsessed w chilly who doesnt want to be bfffffs w him.he doesnt even know what that is.that or rly fucking dramatic relationship drama theres no way magolor washes the dishes.n i want a damn latino novela w 300 capítulos of metasusie not working out.

-i dont get the knight ships or why theyre so popular at all but again im legally not allowed to judge most ships

-marx is like.12 to me kirby will grow up to be a dense aromantic (they already r but the wording sounded funny) (THO i do think ribbon n prince fluff liking them one sided-ly has great comedic potential).elfilin is beyond the need of romance.also hes too dumb anyways.also bandee isnt aro but he lowkey hates most of the star allies hes not gonna date marx lmao.n ngl i never even thought of bandee n sailor even knowing each other.i dont know why i put the two enemy knights there.

-i refuse to have in depth thoughts on the mirror world lore bc hals gonna debunk all of it anyways but the little i do have.girl youre not dating d minds little dedede puppet who runs on pure rage lmaooooo

-remember the toxic dysfunctional yaoi from the kirby anime.yeag.

(og tierlist post btw i got shy for putting it in the reblogs u_u)

[fullmoonfireball]

What if magolor got sent to the pikmin planet during the events of pikmin 3 after magolor epilogue

this is.. so specific, i cant help but feel like you've already got ideas about this brewing in your own head, anon. i'm kind of just picturing the koppaites assuming he's an enemy and pelting him with rock pikmin, personally.

anyways, since my answer here isn't too in-depth, i feel like i should mention that when i was still getting into Pikmin, i DID have the thought to draw epilogue!Magolor being followed around by some peaceful Dupas like they were pikmin, bc i thought it'd be funnie

evidently, i kind of got swallowed too quickly to actually get around to doing it though-

[of-dream-land]

For this post ... If you haven't been asked yet, Magolor ~

YESSSSS omg this is perfect bc i have a LOT of hcs about magolor

attraction headcanon: i see him as pansexual !! leaning maybe a little more towards guys though

gender headcanon: i think he just doesn't rly care about that. like he says he's a guy out of convenience but i don't think he cares or thinks about that too hard

a ship i have with this character: oh boy. oh MAN. i have quite a few ships with magolor LOL so ill just go through all of them and explain my reasoning behind them i guess?

magoranza: GRAHHHHH.... i love them a lot. i think its my number one ship w him. i like to think that its smth that happens very gradually too. maybe they don't really like each other at first/find the other a little annoying but then eventually they get closer and catch feelings idk.... i like to imagine them as part of the same best friend group (w marx and susie too) so they get to spend more time that way since theyre together more often. also i just think they contrast each other nicely!! like ally who turns out to be an antagonist + antagonist who turns out to be an ally....auauauau

magochilly: THEY'RE VERY CUTE...!! its a little particular tho bc i dont necessarily like/agree w the way it was portrayed in the manga (making magolor this obsessive over chilly is very weird and creepy) but i think the fandom version of magochilly is adorable so im choosing to make my own too. i kinda just see them as magolor being all loud and open abt his love for chilly and chilly just being a little shy abt it but reciprocating when its just the two of them bc hes not used to pda and all... idk!! its very sweet to me

magoroach: so like. this one kind of started as a joke LMAO,,, the little animation scene in the main menu of star allies where daroach steals the lor and magolor runs after him kind of defined their entire relationship to me ngl LOL. like, magolor is a snarky piece of shit but daroach is someone an even BIGGER snarky piece of shit and i think thats smth magolor doesnt expect so he gets riled up p easily by him. i dont rly ship it that seriously tho i mostly see it as like,, smth they just Have eventually but its never that serious

magometa(?)/metalor(?): i dont know the ship name but LMKSDJJSDKL THIS SHIP IS FUNNY TO ME bc i already have a hc that meta knight fucking HATES magolor after the events of krtdl, so their rs to me is basically just the "you should be addicted to shutting the fuck up" "you wanna fuck me so bad it makes you look stupid" meme. again more of a joke ship that i plan on making very specific fanart of eventually but i dont rly ship it that seriously

thats all for the ships. ahem. back to normal business

a brotp i have with this character: MARX!!!!! i think marx and magolor are best friends but in the way that they can't stand each other. they hate each other but they're always together. they enable each other. they bring out the worst in one another. if one of them died the other probably wouldn't care. they complete each other they start shit together they-- YOU GET ME. i love them. best worsties. worst besties. etc etc. i could talk abt their dynamic all day they mean so much to me

a notp i have with this character: m*rxolor im sorryyy (censoring so it doesnt end up in research tags)... there's nothing wrong w the ship! it's just not my cup of tea bc i see their rs as strictly platonic. also obvious one but him and kirby bc kirby is a child and i hc magolor to be a young adult so.

a random headcanon: i like to imagine that magolor has more cat-like attributes that arent just shown on his appearance. like he probably has a cat tree in the lor that he just uses for fun. he reacts to lasers the same way cats do. he probably purrs idk? if u dangle smth in front of him he'll stop what he's doing to catch it

general opinion of this character: I LOVE HIM I LOVE HIM SO MUCHHHHHH he might be my current fav character of all times :] he's so fun and cringe (lovingly) and loveable!!! he makes me very happy. i could talk abt him for hours i could draw him for hours i could watch video essays abt him and abt kirby's return to dream land for hours too he is my everything my little meow meow my nyagolor (heart emoji) (heart emoji) (egg emoji) (gear emoji) (cat emo

[vaugarde]

in my kirby verse im trying to figure out how taranzolor can work (because i cant get over ships i liked when i was 14 lmao) since in this taranza finally makes progress in moving on after the events of TKCD (which is a LARP session gone wrong here) and in that game and star allies they bond while magolor is trying to improve himself as a person and i imagine it was initially formed on a shakier foundation? bc magolor was a better person by TKCD albeit traumatized from the events of RTDL, but yknow he still was a fuckhead and liked to mess with people and a part of him did still crave to be something more and felt aimless and meaningless without something like the master crown to run after, and i think taranza would have seen sectonia parallels in that and basically just went “i can fix him”. and its like taranza trying desperately to keep his new friend/crush from destroying himself with power and greed and an outside force tearing his body apart like sectonia did (even though ironically he is also carving out his own destruction by focusing so hard on the past).

except they both need to be fixed they both need a therapist but like AFTER they get the therapist magolor learns to be satisfied with where he is and how to cope with what happened, taranza learns to move on and not punish himself constantly for what happened with sectonia and not focus so hard on the past when he has his whole life ahead of him. and they realize they still have their futures and decide... maybe they can figure it out together if they don’t have much else (at that specific point)

[cricktoon]

Those Kirby screenshots are from the Return to Dreamland remake (specifically Merry Magoland), actually! Magolor sadly isn't in Forgotten Land despite how cool it would have been :(

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA tysm for letting me know!! I'm just getting back into Kirby after like 10 years of not playing it bc I could never afford the games, so I'm quite a bit behind on the times!

[opal-owl-flight]

Did Meta’s little conspiracy theory about Magolor stay within the Star Allies ranks, or did he manage to get it spread around Dreamland? If it was spread that’s going to make things so much worse for Maggie.

I am HOPING that it stays within the ranks!!!! I honestly havent thought much about this aAkzjJSJSK

Most people in Dreamland dont see Mags in the best light. He still causes a lot of trouble with anyone he doesnt really consider close…

If this conspiracy manages to leak out, Mags is going to be so cast out by the towns and such. But I dont think he cares too much. He can always just sneak in to steal what he needs or whatnot. Who are these people again? Doesnt matter. The only reason he kind of respects them at all is bc the rest of the Allies cares so much about them, and because they praise and shower him with attention/gifts when he does something for them!

Hes…yet to really acquire that selfless attitude.

[salted15]

i drew a human for the first time in a while

i dont like the arms imo

[nyaagolor]

Decided to overanalyze the Magolor Soul original pause screen despite not knowing a word of Japanese because hell yeah. DeepL and Jisho my beloved. Stuff under the cut bc it got long

Original Text: クラウンのもつ むげんの力に 支配された、哀しき姿… もはや彼がクラウンそのもの。 憎悪と 執念にとらわれた マホロアの魂を、ときはなて！

My best educated guess at a translation, edited for flow: Magolor has been possessed by the limitless power of the Master Crown. This miserable form... Magolor has become one with the crown and is no longer himself. His soul is taken prisoner by hatred and obsession-- set his spirit free!

Detail stuff with highlights on specific words:

クラウンのもつ むげんの力に 支配された

"The crown's limitless power possesses (him)"

もつ - To hold / maintain / possess

むげん - infinite / limitless / eternal

力 - Power / strength / ability

哀しき姿… もはや彼がクラウンそのもの。

"A miserable form... One with the crown, he is no longer himself"

哀しき - When referring to a person it means miserable / sad, when referring to a situation or action it's closer to lamentable / deserving of sympathy

憎悪と 執念にとらわれた マホロアの魂を

"Magolor's soul is held prisoner to hatred and obsession"

しゅうねん - obsession, tenacity, occasionally grudge

ぞうお - hatred, loathing

とらわれた - To be captured by / to be taken prisoner by / to be made slave to / to be seized by / to be swayed by

魂 - spirit / soul

ときはなて！

"Set him free!"

ときはなて - release / free (it)

[waddledeeimages]

I will make a specific post about these later but I think abt the waddle dee figurines from this set all the time but they're literally impossible to find on their own. :( I'd buy the full set and then sell the rest but it's such a risk and investment if it doesn't pay off bc they're spensive!

[ID: a photo of a variety of Kirby figurines from a set. it features magolor with pumpkin soup, meta knight with a chocolate cake, marx with an ice cream sundae, bandana dee on a pie, waddle doo and cracko on a bun, Kirby in some fruit tea, king dedede and a waddle dee on a bowl of ice cream, and Kirby on a blueberry pie with a kracko. End ID]