#stebekah for ts

[kmze]

Thoughts on 4x01 - 4x12 again I wrote a novel. This is probably my least favorite rewatch half since S1 and it's because the stuff I liked I really liked and the stuff I didn't like I really didn't like. It kind of ebbed and flowed for me, I didn't like the first two episodes (they felt weird I don't know how to describe it) but then I liked Connor and the hunters mythology. I liked the Klefan team-up and the hybrid sire bond breaking with Tyler (I liked his plot the most of anyone) and obviously I liked that the show remembered Steroline existed and all the friendship and sober sponsor goodness. But I didn't like when the hunters mark turned to the cure and Silas because I honestly lost the plot on the convolution of that. I loathe LOATHE the sire bond stuff and DE in general and while 4x09 was a highlight the next three brought it back to not enjoying myself as much (I blame the lack of Caroline).

4x01

“I made a choice that I will regret for the rest of my life” see even Stefan knows that was a stupid ass decision!

Not to defend Matt but can the Salvatore brothers leave him alone like damn it’s not his fault. Especially Stefan like projecting much? Damon wanting to kill Matt so badly is tiring like what is even the point?

God the DRAMA over Elena deciding to transition or not became downright annoying.

Bonnie you need to listen to Grams and stop saving these damn people!

RIP the Council you were useful for one day and then you got blown up.

4x02

I don’t really see how the animal diet wouldn’t cause more duress since you have to kill an animal, as opposed to just drinking from a blood bag? IDK Stefan you need to maybe reassess your vampire training manual because this doesn’t seem to be a diet anyone chooses unless they have drinking problem. Plus the dramatics over Elena feeding and possibly killing someone come on man, there’s like six people watching her I think you can all manage if you do it in shifts.

Damn I forgot how hot Conner is *bites fist* and I love that he shots first questions later! Someone who gets shit done and actually shook the table around here!

Tyler is the only one around here actually willing to put himself in danger to cause the least amount of casualties. A motherfucking G!

I’m sorry but Elena told April to remember it was a beautiful service but like it wasn’t! Tyler got shot! I would have included that information.

Why did Damon start kinda breaking the fourth wall suddenly?

Between Stefan starting it off by listing people Damon killed and Elena mourning HERSELF this is the most in sync’ Stelena has been since S2 LMFAO!

4x03

These past few episodes have been so overly emotional and dramatic it’s a bit much for me. I think it’s because the show is making us “feel” Elena’s transition like we’re doing it along with her, but please show I don’t ever want to be forced to relate to Elena.

Klaus getting so excited to try and breakup a high school couple is both sad and hilarious. Like he is glowing at the thought!

Man Rebekah is RUTHLESS!

The motorcycle scene is so bad!

I know I get more of a buzz from this than most but the Steroline scene is really just a nice scene. There is so much self righteousness and postering going around in these episodes and finally someone is like “I need help will you help me” “of course” and it is so nice! Stefan gives her these heart eyes when she says she's good at it because of him that just make me melt. I don't even think it's about the boost to his ego, I think he just really needed to hear that he did something right. This is also such a huge moment in relation to Stefan because it's the first time he ASKED for help with his blood addiction. With Lexi, Damon even Elena they told him they'd help him and they all did a bit but Caroline was the first person he sought out help from. And he trusted her when she said he could come to her whenever he wanted and she wouldn't let him lose control. Because Caroline is a genius at self-control. I always liked how we got the line "you don't have to pretend with me" from Stefan to Caroline in 2x13 and now you see how Stefan starts to learn he doesn't have to pretend with Caroline either.

4x04

Even the voiceover recap is dramatic!!

Stefan’s “we’re not in a fight this is our resting phase get over yourself” comment was hilarious.

How does Caroline not know how hard it is Elena hmm not like she woke up all alone having no idea what was happening to her since NO ONE told her about the supernatural world before that! The only possible information she had was visions of Damon abusing her, raping her and feeding on her! Not like she didn't have to work her ass off to prove to EVERYONE she could do it (only Stefan had some faith in). Then after that she was tortured by her own father despite being "too good at it". Yep no idea how hard it is.

Klaus sitting at the bar with a glass of wine smirking at Rebekah’s failures should not be as funny as it is but I am DYING!

Klaus’ smile when Stefan figured out his motive, what a sap! At least he's using new methods to get his (boy)friend back now. Instead of ruining his life he's like "wanna manipulate people and be shady" the best way to Stefan's heart.

While I do enjoy the Bonnie/Shane storyline (mostly) I am immensely tired at how often Bonnie loses her powers. This never seemed to happened to the witches on TO... and of course we all know why (racism).

Everything about Damon in this episode disgusts me. When he basically described S1!Caroline as the perfect "feeding victim" I wanted to reach through the screen and stake him. Can't even enjoy Bamon crumbs during this time period.

Stefan manipulated Rebekah into giving up all the information after one conversation… I just cannot. If Rebekah wasn’t mostly indestructible there’s no way she’d have lived this long, she will give all her secrets away to the first person who shows her a modicum of warmth.

4x05

Elena is so out of the loop and I love it (because I am a HATER)

I'm glad Bonnie got to just vibe with Shane instead of being forced to help this hostage situation, good for her.

The Hunter plot is good, I do like how they have their own symbols and the tattoo only other hunters can see. It gets a bit too complicated when Silas and the cure get introduced but it was good while it was just about the hunters.

Matt and Jeremey getting April a vervain bracelet THANK YOU!

Farewell Connor you should have been Too-Hot-to-Die!

The cracks in Forwood are starting :( because Tyler is right, Chris was his friend and more importantly Tyler wants to keep everyone safe and values everyone's life not just those he believes are important. But Caroline doesn't believe that, she'll try to save everyone and she'll at least feel bad but she will always save her friends first. There's also the fact that she's already started picking Stefan's side over Tyler's which will come to a head soon...

4x06

Caroline’s grin at tricking Klaus LMFAO

They would make Elena be haunted by her first kill after telling me how SHE JUST CARES TOO MUCH and her compassion is her greatest weakness the last five episodes. I hate it here.

Jeremy being so eager to stake Damon LMFAO!! I mean can you blame him? You know how many problems would have been fixed if they killed his ass.

They make it the Stelena break-up all about Elena's feelings for Damon which... is not the full problem here. If anything the problem is Elena's feelings for Damon mean her and Stefan aren't in sync like they were in S2. Because when SE works it's when Stefan can be the ideal boyfriend who respects Elena's choices and always protects her (at the expense of others if needed) and Elena can uplift that. She'll even remind people of it, like Elijah in 2x19 or when she would remind Damon, like when she invited Stefan into the boarding house first and embarrassed Damon on the condition he follow her rules (and Stefan smiles smugly). I mentioned it in my 2x12-22 recap thoughts how Elena wants to have a relationship with both brothers, but it only works if Elena isn't in love with Damon. Because then the roles don't work anymore, and Stefan has more self respect than Damon and quite frankly has zero interest being a side piece. Because we KNOW Damon will be in love with Elena no matter what like he was in love with Katherine for 145 years (until he transferred that over to Elena) but Stefan can move on (and does fight me).

4x07

When Caroline is talking to Stefan about her disgust at Delena and goes “and you’re you” the way Candice says it and her body language is PERFECTION! You see that small part that feels a tingle for Stefan pop out for a second after she buried it when they became friends in S2 (it stays there until S5 IMO).

Klaus is such a dick lol, he knows exactly what’s going on (that Elena is sired to Damon) and he just gives Caroline another riddle.

Everything with Damon and Elena this episode (most episodes lbr) makes me ill so I'm just going to ignore it :)

The Klaus and Caroline scenes at Miss Mystic Falls are kinda cute, I liked when he was teasing her with the application lol. The hummingbird analogy was kind of like "what TF is he talking about" though. Also why didn't we get Caroline saying if she'd take the cure or not, feels like they purposely wanted to keep that lingering.

I do like how much shadiness is going on this season, like not really knowing Hayley's motives and now we know she's working with Shane. Stefan and Klaus' team-up and how that brought a lot of hostility to the trio and also makes Caroline a more primetime player.

Another precious moment! When Caroline is going on her pro-Stelena rant and she’s like “her and Damon” *shakes in disgust like her whole body icks over the idea* (samsies). Then Stefan does this d’aw look and shy smile trying not to laugh because Caroline is Caroline and just BEING HER makes him forget how crappy his life is.

Now one of my favorite eras begins aka "Stefan and Caroline figure everything out by the fireplace (and fall in love)" era.

4x08

Stefan is being more sanctimonious than usual and if it were any other character than Damon I’d be like "let's not throw stones from glass houses..." But since he’s Damon and he still doesn’t do the right thing after all this, I'll allow it.

The show tried to push the side bond as feelings but like that’s not why the sire bond is bad. It’s the lack of consent because you are forced to act based on what you’re told by one person and it prohibits free will. THAT'S THE PROBLEM! No one thinks Elena didn't have feelings for Damon before she turned we fucking know this.

The scene with Caroline, Elena and Bonnie drinking and partying in the Salvatore living room is very cute and funny and I love it and it sucks that every other interaction between them this episodes fills me with hate. The part where Caroline says "It's not your fault, Elena. Damon took advantage of you!" you really hear the fear in her voice.

Elena is a bit too intrigued watching the hybrids bow to Tyler...

I thought Stefan was going to say "because he's my brother" when Caroline asked how he could trust Damon and how utterly annoyed it was going to make me, his excuse was a least a little better than that. He was wrong of course, because Stefan never learns when it comes to Damon.

4x09

The first scene of this episode is… why? They just established the lack of consent with the sire bond and Damon and Elena are laying on top of a bed together.

Caroline looks ETHERAL (and yes the very petty part of me loves that she gets to look stunning while Elena looks dull and miserable even her hair doesn't pop like it used to *evil grin*)

The way Tyler says "you told HIM" AJSHBCFJSFHJ god I love this scene, and the way Stefan moves in front of Caroline to protect her from HER BOYFRIEND, god I love it. I love when two characters just straight-up do not like each other based on personalities and not plot contrivance. Because Tyler and Stefan have never gotten along and they would never speak to each other if they could help it but they have to, because they both care about Caroline. That's how you do a triangle. Love how Tyler threw in Stefan's face that he already got one of the hybrids killed so he doesn't owe him anything. Sterowood you deserved more.

The Klefaroline stuff is also so great, the little art critic remarks and Klaus saying "you've been dodgy and Caroline's been lovely which I've come to recognize as a tool of distraction" (took him long enough lol). I do really enjoy the Klefan conversation about loneliness (which was what Caroline said about the snowflake) and memorializing their dead. Then the remorse that Stefan and Caroline feel at leading Klaus to slaughter and then cutting to... Klaus brutally murdering 12 hybrids to a Christmas carol. This show!

Watching Tyler find all the dead hybrids... damn I just feel so awful for Tyler. He was just trying to help them and never really wanted to be the alpha and now he has to feel immense guilt over them trusting him.

4x10

I’m sorry Becks but getting mad at Stefan for his dirty tricks girl... maybe stop letting yourself get manipulated ALL THE TIME!

I do appreciate Damon shooting Klaus for Carol.

Man Shane can resist compulsion too why are these idiots still not learning that! Morons all of them.

The prospect of Rebekah ramming the cure down Klaus throat does give me a perverse amount of joy! Really would have loved to see him deal with that predicament MWAHAHAHAAAA!

Stefan is such a drama queen this episode. Look the sire bond is gross and the way Damon is using it to his advantage is gross but like... Stefan is mad at Elena having feelings for Damon because of the sire bond but HE KNEW SHE DID BEFORE HE LET HER DROWN! And again maybe you shouldn't have been so comfortable with your brother being in love with your girlfriend Stefan because it "proved their was a part of him that was human" or whatever bullshit he used to say.

4x11

I do love how sassy Stefan got once he detached from Elena, he’s so much more fun this way!

Even Matt is questioning Elena’s choices about Damon oh how the mighty have fallen!

Sorry not sorry but I’m ready for the Original family to leave for their spin-off. I don’t care enough to even understand their issues now it’s so zzzzzzz, Klaus is the only one who mildly entertains me and that’s only when he’s around Stefan, Caroline or Tyler.

I know he's just trying to aggravate Damon but Klaus saying "Stefan would never dream of hurting Elena" um sir we all know that is not true. You were on the phone with him when he threatened to turn her into a vampire and drive her off a bridge! So much so that you actually stood down!

For someone who wants to be human so bad Rebekah is obsessed with Ripper Stefan and I don't get it! Do you know what Ripper Stefan does to humans? He eats them! And not in the sexy way! I'm also forever over these vampires say they want to be human so badly when they clearly love their vampire powers.

Elena like “wanna commit genocide real quick” girl...

4x12

CTFU at Stefan looking so guilty when Klaus opens the door like he’s been caught cheating!

Two episodes in a row with no Caroline WTF I don’t deserve this!

I know Bonnie’s Dad literally appeared out of nowhere but he’s not wrong in basically everything he’s been saying. She can’t really protect the town like she says when she’s working in vampires' interest. And thank god someone put vervain in the water supply!

It’s kind of sad to watch Bonnie’s parents finally give a shit about her and started telling her to stop putting herself in danger for Elena. Because they are completely right with everything they’re saying and Bonnie just won’t listen now.

The Stebekah 80s “date” does a good job of showing the duality of Stefan. I think he’s being completely genuine in having fun with Rebekah and that it reminded him of his time with Lexi who always made him happy. But he’s also doing this to distract her while Elena and Jeremy try to kill her brother. And I like that he doesn’t have Matt dagger her because she was honest with him and he didn’t want to betray her after she did. But then he manipulates her into being back on his side to get the cure and to not be mad Jeremy and Elena killed Kol. Oh when he’s good he's good.

There’s so many mentions of burning Elena’s house down lol. They couldn’t wait to torch this sucker.

The Klonnie scene where Klaus is like "witch" and she gives him a death glare... they could have been a fire hateship man!

Bonnie’s face was like oooooo watching the triangle drama lol (samsies).

Lines that made me laugh:

Klaus: For future reference, one voicemail is just as effective as nine (this was an ongoing theme with Klefan and it was hilarious)

Stefan: *snaps Damon’s neck* You’re welcome (LMFAO all in the delivery sassy Stefan never leave me!)

[hydesjackiespuddinpop]

So…

I’m gonna be adding some jealous!Leia in this chapter and I’m thinking of how to do it. It may be slightly different than with Jay and Serena.

With Serena, she was reaaaally sad and jealous as you can see here:

And then she tries to play it off and hide in a way that’s like ‘lmao nice to meet you, just here for the ketchup.’

With Nikki, it's a similar reaction, but Leia's a lot closer with her than Serena. With Serena, she is a little insecure since she’s like one of the more popular-ish, more confident girls and Leia feels inferior.

For Nikki/Jay, I’m planning on having Leia reaction to them being similar to Elena’s reaction to Stebekah right here.

Where she’s in shock, slowly turning into raging jealousy. Except Leia would go to Jay’s house similar to how Elena went into cabin with Stefan and Tessa. But the shock value and Nikki answering to Leia just like Rebekah responding to Elena would be there. And then Leia and Jay would have a scene like this (minus the murder references):

And then similar to Elena, Leia’s like ‘Are you doing this just to hurt me? Are you really doing this just to back at me and Nate?’

But then Jay is like ‘You actually think I’d go low enough to intentionally hurt you? I’m trying to move on! What did you expect? That I’d sit around and pine in the sidelines while you’re dating my best friend?’

And then Leia is like "I don’t know how many times I have to say I’m sorry.” But Jay would cut her off and say that she has nothing to apologize for but that he also shouldn’t have to wait around for her either.

Then Leia would be like 'oh shit i made a mistake. i think i lost him.', similar to this:

I just really love enhancing the stelena effects in jeia lmao.

[dobsleyxstelena-blog]

And she would choose Stefan. 

What makes you so sure of that?

Because i would. Any woman would. Stefan is the better man.

[scienter]

I don’t watch Legacies, I decided not to watch anymore JP & KW shows after TVD & TO. I’m still a little bitter that SC didn’t get the happy ending, they deserved it & that was the direction the narrative was heading & it’s obvious they switched it last minute. Anyways, I found out that there was an episode recently that had an AU/fake reality that showed what would have happened if KC got together. I was curious of what became of Caroline in that scenario? I hate KC btw...

Idon’t watch Legacies either so I can’t speak to any Caroline / KCscenes that aired. However, I can say this about KC in general: Ihate extraneous details in stories. I loathe extraneous words, sentences, paragraphs, characters, dialogue, scenes, chapters, and“filler episodes” because they waste time drawing attention to things that don’t deepen characterization orfurther the plot. Extraneous details are filler.  

AfterTVD 5x11 – the episode where Klaus & Caroline had sex in thewoods – Klaus & Caroline became an extraneous detail in eachother’s narratives.  

Theyweren’t vital to each other’s narratives. They no longer revealedanything new about each other. They were never going to end uptogether. So why do the writers keep dragging them out after their narrativetension resolved? (That’s a rhetorical question. We all know why.)

Atthis point, I don’t hate KC. I just don’t like how the ship keepsreceiving so much attention when its become an extraneous detail inthe narrative. 

[hellsbellschime]

I liked the Stefan/Rebekah stuff in flashbacks. The 80s dance had potential, but the biggest problem was that he was using her and in the present it was still about Elena.

I didn’t, but I don’t like Stefan at all. I honestly don’t care to see any of the characters I actually like to get sidelined with characters that I don’t.

[maevelin]

And here comes the necklace!

Which for me it means....ORIGINALS ARE COMING!

- That necklace looks good for a metal that is out there for 1000 years lol

- Elijah might not have recognized it at season 2 but whatever THE ORIGINALS ARE COMING! lol

- And Stefan was compelled to forget that kept a piece of Rebekah Mikaelson with him and passed on to the next woman he fell in love with. (another not well explored story....)

[siobhom]

Prompt: Stefan/Rebekah: They talk about what their relationship in the twenties actually meant to them.

[hellsbellschime]

Sigh... I used to like Stebekah, or at least its potential, before they turned Stefan into such a fuckboy. I think it's pretty bizarre that they're acknowledging it now, TBH. I mean, it could just be a throwaway line in their effort to reconnect the shows, but it could also be pointing to a future merger. I certainly wouldn't mind seeing CH on TVD once again.

I was actually thinking something along these lines too. One mention when Stefan was on TO was kind of weird, but to bring it up on TVD again after years is REALLY weird to me. There are plenty of other ways of reconnecting the shows besides bringing up a years-old romance with a character who left the TVDverse years ago as well, so while I’m certainly not banking on Rebekah coming back to TVD at some point I also won’t be surprised if she does.

[hellsbellschime]

All of a sudden they're also acknowledging Stebekah. Last week Stefan had some comment about how he dated her once, and then this episode he was telling Valerie about how he got stoned with Rebekah. It probably means nothing, but it just jumped out at me because they haven't talked about Rebekah since Season 5 (I think), and Stebekah since Season 4 (and I think the writers often forget they were ever a thing).

Ehhhh, maybe it means nothing, but that’s pretty weird to me.

[kmze]

Why do ppl have this need to see Stefan go vengeful on Valerie for kidnapping Caroline? The anon who said that's not how Stefan expresses love is right. Remember when Rebekah stabbed Elena with a pencil right in front of Stefan while they were still dating and he barely reacted? That was after she drove Elena off the bridge and killed/turned her! Remember when Rebekah body-slammed Elena and Stefan just watched? When Steffie gets vengeful it's never for anyone else, it's always just about him.

Amen Anon I’m not really sure where this mentality came from(especially because out of the three girls Valerie physically tortured Carolinethe least) when in the past with Elena Stefan just sat there and watchedRebekah attack her.

Rebekah throwing a pencil at Elena’s heart right in front ofStefan, I mean he was sitting right there. Besides the fact that Elena hadevery right to want to get back at Rebekah seeing as she’s the one who madeMatt drive off that bridge which ended with Elena dying and turning into avampire. Something Stefan should have been angry about as well since at thetime Elena was miserable as a vampire and Stefan was miserable that he let herdie. Stefan just told Elena to ignore Rebekah and then enlisted Caroline to tryand help him to get Elena to calm down, no retaliation what-so-ever.

The body-slamming incident, even though that happened afterStefan and Elena broke up shouldn’t hold any less weight I mean he seriouslyjust stood there and watched.

Also I see a lot of people focusing on Stefan shouldbe angry because Valerie kicked Caroline in the head but Stefan has no ideathat happened. The only thing Stefan knew about was Valerie putting the spellon Caroline and he DID confront her about that and asked why she did it.

Some people complain about Stefan being kind and sympathetictowards Valerie and some felt he had non-platonic feelings in 7x05 but this ishow Stefan looked at Rebekah in 4x04 when he was still in a relationship withElena.

Furthermore in 4x04 and 4x14 he did the same thing with Rebekah that he wasdoing with Valerie in 7x05 painting himself as the hero saying he wanted to getthe cure for her when it was really all about himself.

I could also add how Stefan easily hoped into bed withRebekah after he lost Elena to Damon or even in S3 when he remembered Rebekahand what he used to feel for her he was clearly affected, he kissed her backpretty effectively. All these things happened when he was still in love withElena but couldn’t be with her (if you want to compare that to the FF because itseems similar to me.)

How about when Stefan let Katherine stay at the Salvatore house when he was dating Elena and Elena was very uncomfortable about the situation. At least with Caroline and Valerie he slept on the couch and made sure to explain to Caroline it was only for one night.

There just seems to be this immunity that fans had in regards to Elena where Stefan didn’t have to “prove” his devotion as much as fans expect it for Caroline. I think some of it has to do with the original set-up of the love triangle and some still focusing wayyyyy too much on Caroline’s “I’m never the one” because a lot of Stefan’s actions are things that have always been canon.

[hellsbellschime]

What did you think of Stebekah?

I wasn’t a fan. Rebekah is probably my favorite female character in the TVDverse, so I’m generally not a fan of her constant chasing after dudes who are totally beneath her.

[kmze]

Hey, I'm just curious but did Stefan and Rebekah love each other at some point? I liked them in S4 and S3. Did Stefan really like Rebekah and vice versa? I know Rebekah wanted to go with him and leave in the 20s but Klaus stopped her. I think they'd be a fun and romantic couple too. Remember their slow dance 80s-esque dance scene in S4? :( I wanted them to hit it off if it weren't for SC

I think Ripper Stefan loved Rebekah inthe 1920s in the way a no humanity vampire could actually love someone, heenjoyed being around her and he was sexually attracted to her but actuallycaring about her is basically impossible without being able to feel compassion.I think Rebekah was in love with Stefan or at least she was in love with theversion of Stefan she met in 1920s Chicago because he was fun. I thinkStefan/Rebekah in present day Mystic Falls never would have gone beyond a“friends with benefits” type of relationship but I do think Stefan liked andcared about Rebekah. I too wanted to see a little Stebekah romance in S4 butmostly because I wanted Stefan to take a break from Elena because she wascausing him nothing but misery and he needed someone he could have fun with.

[scienter]

After reading your Stelena meta pt. 2, I also read the Dawson Syndrome and Pacey Solution article. Then I read the comments and one said the perfect Pacey solution for Stefan would be Rebekah. What do you think about that?

I’m glad you read thearticle. I hoped that someone would.

I read those comments too,and as much as I loved Stebekah (I shipped it) it wasn’t a pairing that made senseto me in the long term. There are a couple of reasons why I think this.

I always got the sense thatRebekah’s love for Stefan was deeper than Stefan’s attachment to her. One ofthe things a couple should have is equal devotion to each other and Stefan justwasn’t that into her. Stefan cared for Rebekah and liked her, but I never gotthe sense that he was crazy about her or that he was going to fall hard for her.I want Rebekah to be loved by someone who is utterly devoted to her and will puther first. Stefan never did that. I know a lot of it had to do with the factthat Stefan was still in love with Elena, but still Stefan has been deeplydevoted to Caroline since season two and I just didn’t see that same devotionapplied to Rebekah. For instance, Stefan tricked Rebekah into revealing wherethe sword was buried and then Klaus daggered her. Although it obviously painedStefan to do that, I can’t imagine that he’d ever do something similar toCaroline, even for Elena. I thought thatthey had a very interesting relationship (friendship?), but I didn’t see it evergoing past “friends with benefits.”

Stefan has serious issues with his blood addiction, and he needshis girlfriend to recognize it as the problem that it is. Rebekah said that oneof the things that she loved about Stefan in the 1920s was that he had noconscience (in 3x16 I think). She didn’t really seem concerned or bothered byStefan’s dark side, and I don’t think that kind of indifference is a good thingfor Stefan (3x03, 3x04, 3x08, 3x16).  Becausewhen Stefan is bad, he is bad. One of the things I like aboutStelena, Steroline, and Stefarine is that they all preferred Stefan with hishumanity on. Even Katherine understood that Stefan was the hero “at his core.”

So while I always enjoyed Stebekah, I don’t see it as the possible“Pacey solution.”

[hellsbellschime]

I actually liked Stebekah in Bekah's 1st epi, in the flashbacks and the I liked that Stefan kept the necklace that somehow subconsciously was a link with Rebekah and his story with her. it was a bit mysterious and hinted lingering feelings from an age full of passion and danger. I also liked the smile he gave her once Klaus returned his memories to him. And then everything went bad and they screwed up all the potential that ship had and turned it to shit and I started even disliking Stefan more.

Eh, I liked that part too, but I agree that afterwards they just kind of muffed it all up pretty hard. I honestly wouldn’t have a huge problem with what Stefan did if they didn’t act like he completely HATED Rebekah, and I think it would have been interesting for him to actually be conflicted about what he was doing for Elena instead.

[hellsbellschime]

I always wanted Stebekah. I liked their 1920s flashbacks and I thought those memories should have had a greater impact on Stefan. I get that he loved Elena and wasn't over her in Season 4, but I really wish we had gotten Stebekah instead of Steroline.

Eh, I didn’t really want Stebekah to happen either. I think it would have been interesting if Stefan had remembered Rebekah and actually had feelings for her that gave him some kind of conflict, but I’m just not into any dudes who aren’t into Rebekah. I’d really like to see her with someone who actually prioritizes her. I agree that Stebekah would have been way better than Steroline though.

[hellsbellschime]

I think Stefan & Rebekah should get the cure. They were the two that really wanted it in Season 4. Damon didn't and Elena decided she didn't want it.

Eh, I think there’s zero chance of that happening.