I made helpful diagrams to elaborate on the chaos situation I sort of touched on here for my au
Brother Group One:
(Shanks and Buggy both consider Ace a younger brother, but they themselves are not brothers)
Brother Group Two:
(Self explanatory. We know this trio)
All Together:
(I'm obsessed with this chaos)
As you can see, Ace is simultaneously oldest middle and youngest. He has the range.
That is all, thank you, goodnight
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Stephanie: So. You, my kinda, sort of big sister, are engaged to the sort of adoptive brother of your sort of adoptive daughter, who's also the sort of adoptive son of our sort of old boss and the sort of adoptive brother of my brooding jerk ex-boyfriend, whose sort of family sort of loves me more than they love him?
Barbara: Maybe it's unnecessary and, frankly, impossible to neatly categorise everything.
Stephanie: Says who?
Barbara (smirking): You know, by your logic, when Dick and I get married, this would make Bruce your kinda, sort of, sort of father-in-law by extens—mph!
*Stephanie slaps a hand over Barbara's mouth and collapses over her lap*
Stephanie (eyes squeezed shut): Ew-ew-ew-ew-EW!! Stop-trying-to-put-a-label-on-everything!! What's-wrong-with-you??? Babs!!! Stop-talking!! STOP IT!!! NO!!! *shakes head aggressively* AAAAHHHH!!
Barbara (smiling with her eyes): Thhts mh ghrl... *pats Steph's back*
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it’s very important to me how my therapist (attachment trauma specialist) who works with a lot of adoptees and ffy is also obsessed with supernatural. and agrees that jack is not adopted, and it’s important to his storyline that he isn’t. it’s so frustrating trying to explain to people that adoption isn’t about ‘what’s in their hearts’ or some other bullshit, because adoption isn’t about love, it’s a legal process that tfw don’t partake in. they never try to to erase his lineage or require it for there to be love. jack keeps his last name! jack has a picture of kelly at his bedside! jack gets the freedom to meet his first family, including lucifer! he gets to make his decisions about that even after he argues with cas about it! he is not adopted y’all just don’t know how else to describe their relationship because of the romanticization of adoption in ‘found family’ media and the fact that most non-adopted people have no idea what adoption actually is.
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While I was reading your slider oneshot for the third time (sooooo good btw, i cant say enough how much i love your writing), I kept thinking about Ice and Sliders conversation about Carole-[“Me and Carole?” Ice said, thinking it over. He smiled his bitter, bashful smile— “Yeah, we might’ve worked out, once. I won’t get into the details. We tried it out. But I don’t think the timing was right.”]-What is Ice referencing here?? Is he referring to when Carole kissed him? Or did I miss something (entirely possible tbh)? I really felt like Mav when I read that scene ["What do Admiral Kazansky and Carole Bradshaw get up to when he doesn’t know about it?"]
The parallel of Mav being [redacted] with Goose and Carole liking/loving/pining for Ice. Wow! So deliciously complex. What an interesting little love square they have going on. Bradley and his four parents.
But man...Carole really is such a tragic figure in both canon and your fic. But I really really love the depth of emotion that you give her in the glimpses that we get. Her relationships with both Mav and Ice are so interesting and layered. They just feel very real. I really really loved the gimpse of her point of view you gave us in the Dad!Ice fic (the half empty box of cigarettes!! I still think about that)
this is such a sweet ask. thank you. yes he was referring to her kissing him (not really “trying it out,” to be fair, but he’s also trying to “prove” to slider that he’s still interested in women, so he’s using even the most tangential of evidence and holding it up like “see? See? not gonna give you all the details but Trust Me bro we tried it out😎”)
& also here’s from my notes in my printed-out copy of my fics from last OCTOBER (whoa). Referring to the scene in the hospital when Carole gives ice & maverick the instructions to pull Bradley’s USNA app & suggests she & ice have discussed it previously (they haven’t).
Carole is pretty much the only person who is around both Ice & mav enough to know the truth of who they are. (Slider also recognizes this— “ice let Carole Bradshaw see his happiness but not slider… :( que cruel”. And the whole “she is literally the only camera capturing icemav’s happiness on film for the historical record” section of slider
.) And Carole therefore is the only person to whom ice quite literally cannot deny that he & maverick are together, because she… has eyes. And is their best friend. and they’re raising her kid with her. So that sets her up as like a confessional character, in that ice HAS to be truthful with her in a way he isn’t with anyone else, including… his literal boyfriend maverick. so it’s a pretty easy leap for Maverick to be like, It’s a given that ice does not honestly want to be with me, a man -> but he is honest about his feelings with Carole, a woman who has expressed interest in him, behind my back (“what do admiral Kazansky & Carole Bradshaw get up to when he doesn’t know about it?”) -> Omg they’re having a heterosexual emotional affair. Which, like, they totally might be? which is why i keep going back to the *possibility* that they might have worked out once, had it not been for the simultaneous timing of ice falling in love with maverick, since ice is also Bradley’s no. 1 dad figure in my story. Which slider points out.
From a heterosexual family planning perspective, ice & Carole together just kinda makes sense. In a way that everyone in the story recognizes, for better or worse.
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i feel like fandom people love to put characters into archetypal family roles, especially like "adoptive parent", and it's so fucking annoying because half the time the characters in question are not parental at all, and should not under any circumstances act in a parent capacity. they just have a meaningful intergenerational friendship/mentorship and that's inconceivable
it's worse when the younger character has a canon family that's actually decent. the idea that an adult mentor should only function as a replacement for or extension of the family is so perverse. you familypilled fascists
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Here’s my season five theory:
Mike is Vecna’s main target (like Max was)
This leads to: the audience realizing his internalized homophobia, El finding out about his feelings for Will, and Will tapping into his powers
I also think since they’ll be pairing up characters again, Mike and Will are going to be paired together so Will can watch Mike and ensure that he’s safe
And I also am seriously considering them pulling a Deadlights parallel (in IT, Bev gets taken by Pennywise, thrown into the air in the same way Vecna does to his victims, Ben kisses her and it saves her) where Mike ends up in Vecna’s lair and we get a little Upside Down kiss moment that helps pull him out of the trance
Because: Vecna is all about self-hatred. He targets people who are depressed and feel guilty and who hate themselves. Mike accepting himself would be the key to defeating Vecna in this scenario. It fits in perfectly with every “moral message” this series has shown so far
That’s why I think it’s crucial that he is targeted by Vecna, because he’s such an insular character that only Bylers acknowledge the possibility (and likelihood) that he’s queer and has feelings for Will. Vecna is the perfect way to make these internal feelings shown on the screen
And remember the piggyback?
I think that, somehow, Will is going to learn how to do this as well. And he’ll see what Mike is going through and will then realize that it’s safe to tell him how he feels and the truth about the painting (if he hasn’t already at that point). I think this visual will also be the way that El begins to put the pieces together. I actually wouldn’t be shocked if she realized this before Will and tried telling him
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the way that Will and Mike’s queer experience is written differently. Like both of them are struggling with their sexuality but it’s not the same way. One is about forced conformity and the other about alienation.
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