#the troy story epic saga

[max-nolastname]

any media I can relate to black sails is part of the black sails cinematic universe

[stranger-detective]

In honour of the end of the first act:

[generouskittentidalwave]

Please gods I'm on my last nerve

Me: "Wow, as a greek buff it warms my heart to see a new telling of Odysseus's tale in the modern era, as a form of a musical no less. It's so good :DD"

Meanwhile you fuckers in every comment section I am forced to bare witness to: "Well Eurylochus actually did nothing wrong it was all Odysseus's fault" "Odysseus gave his name to the Cyclops" "Odysseus should've never assumed a leader's position" "Odysseus-"

Me: "...."

Me: "Come here, yes you there reading this tumblr post who also listens to Epic the musical. Listen to me closely, VERY closely. If you become TOXIC like the percy Jackson fandom can be, like these commenters here, I will PERSONALLY grab your neck WITH MY BARE HANDS through the screen and TIE IT around YOUR HANDS AND FEET like a CARTOON so you will *NEVER* BE ABLE TO MAKE STUPID COMMENTS LIKE THAT IN YOUR LIFE *AGAIN*

[viaviv124]

My point stands, why the fuck did they go to the lotus island? I'm genuinely curious lol there was no reason to sail out this far if they wanted food and they were near a shore the entire time.

So may i suggest an alternative route:

Even if they didnt fish and insisted on hunting on land, there's some land right there. I will die on this hill that they could've been home in a few days max if Odysseus just put his braincells to work lol. Diomedes got home in 4 days so what stopped Odysseus?

[ka1purush]

Remember Them,

Remember Us,

Remember ME!

This took me almost 9 hours to make, please show it some love 🥹

[sweetpondduckling]

My friends did an Epic improv performance for me yesterday. It was fucking epic

[niyana-the-ambiguous-mobian]

(*Edit* I meant to say at least the songs that came out so far since it hasn't been fully complete yet 😅)

(Ended up having to put the Polyphemus and Survive songs together due to the polls having limited spaces and that they take place in the same scene for the musical itself)

[clockwork-stars]

Okay no one asked but Epic Sagas ranking (not at all objective, it will change in a week when I will go down)

The Underworld Saga

The Thunder Saga

The Troy Saga (I still like it so much <33)

The Ocean Saga

The Circe Saga

The Cyclops Saga

[rosapiike]

If you're looking for a mentor,

I'll make sure your time's well spent

Vs.

You're not looking for a mentor

I'm not looking for a friend

[kateweathermachine2]

HOW DID I NOT KNOW UNTIL NOW (in the MIDDLE of the Wisdom Saga stream) THAT IT WAS STRATEGIES AND NOT TRAGEDIES

AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO THOUGHT THAT

[generouskittentidalwave]

What it's like reading about the Odyssey in a nutshell:

"Hah! looks like some karma coming towards Odysseus for his actions, the guy had it coming"

"Okay, I think that's enough"

"Yeah hahah okay but seriously please stop"

"That's enough consequences-"

"I think he's got the point-"

"This is starting to become overkill-"

"For god's sake leave the poor man alone!"

"Now that was just unnecessary!"

"OKAY STOP-!"

"STO-!!"

[causalityparadoxes]

Was listening to EPIC like hmmmm some of this feels off... only to realise they'd remastered/redone the first 2 sagas and I was in fact listening to entirely different god damn songs!

After looking into why, good for them! 1000%! Love the new versions! But also... does anyone have good quality mp3s of the original albums...? 🥺👉👈 please hit me up. I wanna still be able to listen to the og versions too

[fluffypotatey]

me listening to "Remember Them" knowing damn well what Odysseus is going to do: NO! DON'T GIVE HIM YOUR NAME! DON'T TELL THE CYCLOPS, ODY

[wordswhisperinthedark]

NEXT INSTALLMENT LET'S GOOOO🎉🎉

[bloodyshadow1]

It's weird to see people complain about Zeus' portrayal in Epic, the wisdom saga. Like they act like he wouldn't blast athena with lightning because she's his 'favorite' daughter.

He literally threatens her in the Iliad that if she disobeys him and goes to the battlefield of troy, he would wound her in a way that would take 10 years to heal. He's a shitty dad, sorry, it's not villainizing Zeus to have him portrayed as he is in mythology, in the saga before the Odyssey, 10 years before Epic would have taken place.

Greek gods are shitty and complex, I don't get why people don't get that. Yeah it's an adaption in a world that doesn't have the same morals as when the story took place, it's gonna be different. every greek god has been villainized in an adaption, it's gonna keep happening, zeus is easier and it was his time again, but it happens to all of them

[specialagentartemis]

Re-listening to the Troy Saga and. I know we dunk on Polites a lot for his "greet the world with open arms" attitude coming immediately off a ten-year war but also. Listening to it again is making me go. He knows what he's doing. It's deliberate, it's conscious. "You can relax, my friend." "I know that you're tired of the war and bloodshed / Tell me, is this how we're supposed to live?" The war is over. Let it be over. We're going home. "Look at how you grip your sword; enough said." You're carrying the war with you. Don't bring the pain and death and fear and grief of the war home with you. You don't have to keep being like this. It's over. Greet the world with open arms; the war is over and we can start over. We don't have to approach the world like we're at war with it anymore. Isn't that better, that we don't have to anymore? Can't you let it be better now?

(Yes, this is a very modern mindset about war, not a Homeric Greek one. Epic is a modern story. Deal.)

So when Polites dies, it's not just the death of Odysseus's hope and optimism and moral compass, personified; it's the death of the option to let it be over. It's the death of his ability to Just Go Home. Especially as Polites's death leads directly to Odysseus's response ("The next time that you dare choose not to spare, remember them... remember us... remember me.") "Open Arms" really contributes in setting up the thematic throughline of mercy vs. ruthlessness, kindness vs. violence, but more than just making a moral argument for mercy and kindness, it dangles the hope that the ruthless, violent attitude that won the war can be put away, and Odysseus won't need it anymore. And then, well, that hope gets very violently taken away.