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#this does not mean i will not write him romantically with chloe there has just got to be major plotting
percentstardust · 2 years
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now that i think about it, my lucifer will actually not want to be with chloe anymore since mine is always looking to gain free will from god. he would find out from his brother chloe was made for him and then he would just.....not want to be with her. he has feelings for her but god has yet again used his will to interfere in his life. he does not want that. he loves chloe but he won’t be with her because god did this and he cannot get past it.
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PROPAGANDA
CHLOE BOURGEOIS (MIRACULOUS LADYBUG) (CW: Child Abuse)
1.) Girl was done so dirty… She was starting to develop and could’ve had a redemption arc and then they made her even more one-dimensional than she was at the start, dumbed her down, and the creator on twitter claimed she was never abused and that she never cared about her childhood friend, only his status. And in a scene that thankfully got cut by editors, her father was going to disown her, adopt her sister instead (who is like a “nicer” replacement for her) and pass Chloe onto her abusive mother.
And then a male character gets introduced who is also at first an antagonist with a backstory that gets revealed later, also a childhood friend of the same character, but it’s acknowledged that he got abused by his parent and he gets a redemption arc and a romantic subplot and a spot on the hero team (which Chloe was excluded from because she was irresponsible with her power and revealed her identity publicly… Except he also did that)
This show is about girl power btw.
2.) Chloe was done so fucking dirty. So basically, the creator of the show (Thomas Astruc) created the character in the first place as a stand-in for his childhood bully (red flag no.1) Because of this, any development that she as a character got from the other writers (and it was a lot) got retconned, just because he hated her. Other, objectively much more evil, (male) characters (the main villain!) were portrayed as more sympathetic than her, because god forbid a hurt, abused, emotionally immature, unloved little girl be portrayed as anything other than an unlovable, unforgiveable unchangeable demon. Also she’s obsessed with clothes, shoes and handbags, because she’s a mean girl, don’t you see, so obviously the nice girls (who don’t wear makeup while Chloe does) are better than her.
3.) Stuck up spoiled rich girl is treated as worse than the actual villains of the show. At some point we get a glimpse into her awful traumatizing home life and she starts to be redeemed, but the second something doesn’t go her way she backslides and is suddenly even more evil and dumb. Also her father is incredibly neglectful but it’s portrayed as her somehow abusing him into doing what she wants and he’s so sad about his awful evil daughter. He gets a redemption arc but never actually becomes a better father. She’s seen as unfixable.
CHI-CHI (DRAGON BALL)
1.) okay so to start at the beginning, she was introduced as a young kid but they put her in a super revealing bikini styled outfit. pretty sure it was supposed to be armor too, so besides just being a disgusting design choice even in-universe it’s impractical. but besides that she was pretty charming as a kid, she was cute and funny and pretty tough, and had a cool gimmick in her blade/ laser helmet. even when she reappeared in late Dragon Ball, she was a bit abrasive but was overall rational and kind. she was strong enough to make it into the World Martial Arts Tournament, one of only 16 to qualify.
but come Dragon Ball Z and on, she’s reduced to just a shrill, nagging, aggressive wife and mother. all she gets to do is cook, worry, and berate her husband and sons. her physical strength is only used so she can comically hit Goku. sure its played for laughs, but he’s shown to be afraid of her. I only recall her leaving her house once or twice in DBZ. just the worst mother character stereotype, with nothing left to make her likeable. she’s portrayed as irrational but despite her aggressiveness, half the time her wants are completely reasonable. can’t blame a woman for not wanting her husband to die every other day!! her writing us ass but I still love her and she deserves better!!!
2.) So in Dragon Ball she wasn’t the BEST character to start out with. Toriyama hasn’t ever been the best at writing women or not making stupid fucking sex jokes about them. So she had to deal with that. The outfit she wore as a kid was… NOT GREAT. Let’s say that! Then in late Dragon Ball her entire character revolves around Goku and trying to marry him, which she gets by tricking Goku and getting beaten by Goku in a tournament in one hit. Not off to a great start. Then Z started and Toriyama just… gave her an ENTIRELY NEW new personality, and that new personality was just a stereotype of a tiger mom. Regardless of how correct she might’ve been about letting Gohan fight (and she WAS completely correct, he was 5-6 for a HUGE chunk of Z) the narrative frames her as a hysterical and unreasonable woman nagging at the menfolk and not letting them do things. So naturally people hate her without even considering why she’s upset because the story itself frames her as in-the-wrong. The whole franchise also just forgets that she’s a martial artist and never has her DO ANYTHING.
This is only scratching the surface, there’s a LOT more because the franchise is like 40 years old and we’d be here all day.
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3.) GODDDD okay so full disclosure i guess shonen is such an easy pick but like. out of every shonen wife she was and is THE most hated by the narrative and creator (maybe tied with sakura omfg). shes always made out to be a beast, got her fighting skills shafted after she got married, was always played like she was hysterical for worrying about her kid dying in battle, and not to mention the creator actively HATES her. like toriyama just straight up hates writing her. its bad. its really bad. shes just “bitch wife” but for no reason :(
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purrincess-chat · 1 year
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I’ve seen that you’re a Swiftie and I was wondering, which album do you think each of the MLB characters are? Like if you had to assign an album to one character, out of the most relevant characters in the show I guess 👀
Okay, I had to think about it, but I think I got it. So, I couldn't think of other important characters that fit into some of the eras, so I ranked Marinette, Adrien, Ladybug, and Chat Noir separately, so here we go.
Marinette: Speak Now
She just gives lost in her head fairytale vibes, dreaming of romance and sparks flying and perfect scenarios. I also think she would absolutely stand up at Adrien and Kagami's arranged wedding and sweep him off his feet. And he would be here for it.
Adrien: Lover
Baby boy just wants love so bad. He is absolutely the type to swoon and sigh over his lover and write sappy poetry about how he wants to marry his beloved and live a very normal, mundane life together.
Alya: folklore
So, this one was tricky because aesthetically, I was thinking Red, but Alya has been in a committed relationship for 4 and a half seasons now, so I couldn't see her singing Taylor's quintessential break-up album. folklore, on the other hand, is a bunch of made up stories, and given that Alya is a journalist and a writer, I think she thrives off telling other people's stories. It just seemed like a perfect fit. Plus invisible string for her and Nino? Adorable!
Nino: 1989
I knew this one almost immediately. Just absolute party vibes. He's here for a good time. Nothing but bops.
Kagami: evermore
I also knew this one pretty quickly. Sad girl vibes. Baby just wants to live her life. Also gold rush? willow? "Wait for the signal, and I'll meet you after dark?" Feligami? Hello? Plus, right where you left me for the first portion of s5 where she's still torn up about her feelings for Adrien, but he's moved on with someone else? She wrote this album.
Felix: Reputation
Rep is my favorite album, and I think it fits Felix quite well. On the surface, he's very rough and aggressive and villainous, but underneath when you get to know him, he's actually very sweet and romantic and well-meaning. He's just been hurt by people in the past, so he had to do some shady shit to overcome all of that and carve his own happy ending. Plus, homie literally does not have the greatest reputation right now in canon.
Zoe: Fearless
Zoe was one I hesitated to include bc she's newer to the show, but they did kind of elevate her character in Kwami's Choice, and I felt like Fearless would be a good fit for her. Just someone who has been hurt before, but who's finding herself and learning to be more carefree and open.
Ladybug: Midnights
I went back and forth with Marinette/Ladybug on several albums because I feel like she is the most developed of all the characters, so she could relate to really any album, but I picked Midnights for her because Midnights as a concept is about the things that keep you up at night. Your past, your mistakes, your insecurities, your intrusive thoughts, the weight of the world. And I felt like Ladybug embodied that, especially after this season. Plus, she is the literal Mastermind, and Sweet Nothing is absolutely for her and Chat Noir post Strike Back coming into this season. "And the voices that implore, you should be doing more, to you I can admit that I'm just too soft for all of it." Hello? Also, I've always kind of had Would've, Could've, Should've in my head for her, not from a romantic standpoint, but from the standpoint of someone who has had their childhood ripped away from them because of a grown ass man.
Chat Noir: Red
This one I rolled around on, but hear me out. I feel like Chat embodies this album in a somewhat ironic sense. Red is a break-up album, but it's also kind of fun and tongue-in-cheek. I can see him singing We Are Never Getting Back Together to LB who is like but we never even dated bro wtf? Red is dramatic AF at times, and I feel like Chat would have a good time with it.
Chloe: Debut
Chloe was another one I hesitated to include, but I couldn't think of anyone that truly embodied Debut more than her. There are some truly shady and angry songs on Debut, plus the whole concept of directly writing people's names into songs where you trash talk them seems like a very Chloe thing to do. And Picture to Burn (homophobic version)? "There's no time for tears, I'm just sitting here planning my revenge." "My daddy's gonna show you how sorry you'll be"??? Absolutely Chloe.
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omniishambles · 11 months
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SHIPPING INFO // ANSWER THE FOLLOWING FOR YOUR MUSES SO PEOPLE KNOW HOW SHIPPING WORKS ON YOUR BLOG.
tagged by: @countlessrealities // tagging: @imjustanauthor, @multipleoccupancy​
WHAT IS YOUR OTP FOR YOUR CHARACTER(S)?
In regards to ships I’m currently writing:
Fish Lecter/Monet as written by @imprvdente and Abel Gideon because these two truly give me full brain rot in every single universe they collide in. The different dynamics they have in each verse while still being so damned perfect for eachother, I simply can’t.
Crowley as written by @collidingxworlds and Aziraphale, because Scotty has such a unique and detailed take on that silly demon that smashes every other version out of the water, quite frankly, and my Aziraphale is completely smitten with him and him alone.
I’m a very very selective shipper so I truly adore all the ships I’m currently writing and developing, but these two in particular are very much ride or die for me.
Kinda generically I’d say Will Graham & Hannibal Lecter, Gillian Foster & Cal Lightman, Effie Trinkett & Haymitch Abernathy, Peeta Mellark & Katniss Everdeen, Morticia & Gomez Addams. I’m lucky enough to be exploring some of these with Scotty and Chloe currently!
HOW LARGE DOES THE AGE GAP HAVE TO BE TO MAKE IT UNCOMFORTABLE?
I’m relatively chill with age gaps, though I think if there’s gonna be one, I’d rather the youngest muse was 25-30 at minimum. As long as there’s no serious power imbalance, I think we’re pretty much good?
HOW FAR DO STEAMY MOMENTS HAVE TO GO BEFORE THEY ARE CONSIDERED NSFW?
As soon as we reach the point of clothes coming off and everyone getting a little too excited for public display, that’s when a fade to black rolls in. I do find it amusing to play Fade To Black chicken and see how far a scene can be pushed before it goes under the veil, but I’d never write anything explicit on the dash. And writing actual NSFW content is something I left behind many many years ago. I actually find it more enjoyable to rile the muses up and join them again later.
ARE YOU SELECTIVE WHEN SHIPPING?
Very much so, yes. I’ve had some pretty disappointing experiences in the past which has led to that. And I guess I really struggle at times because I hate disappointing other people in regards to ships, I know what that feels like, so if I’m unsure I can tend to shy away or turn down ships. Because I don’t want to agree to something which fizzles out for me and leaves the other person hanging, especially if they were getting really invested (which also makes me wary of suggesting ships myself too! And this is one reason I don’t just ship at the drop of a hat).
Which is a pain because I’d enjoy more ships, tbh, but I have to feel really comfortable with the mun and have a very particular vibe with their muse and be able to see/feel a vibe between that muse and mine. I also write a lot of flirtatious muses, such is my curse, because flirtation doesn’t mean a ship is gonna happen but a lot of people think it does. And I need chemistry across the board. I need muses who have That Something and muns I’ve got a really good rapport with. It’s essential.
Once I’m in the right ship though I tend to be extremely loyal to it and often find it very difficult to imagine my muse shipped with any other! Some muses have multiple ships but that’s a pretty rare thing for me tbh.
But TLDR: Yes. Very selective.
WHO ARE OTHER CHARACTERS YOU SHIP YOUR CHARACTER WITH?
I don’t know how to answer this really with multiple muses lol. I think it could be fun to explore a poly ship one day but alas, with my weird shipping hang ups I don’t know if I’d get there. That’s something I’ll have to work on to get more generally chill about shipping one day.
DOES ONE HAVE TO ASK TO SHIP WITH YOU?
It would need to be discussed or the idea floated by me. Depending on how I already feel about the muses and their relationship, I’d then decide if I’m open to exploring something more romantic, but that would still depend on the chemistry of the muses as we went along! If they’ve only been talking for five minutes then I probably won’t feel it, I usually need a lot of warm up time if I’m honest, but sometimes a ship will just kick down the door immediately. Again, I can be shy/wary of trying for ships if I’m not sure about the chemistry between the muses, so it’s usually best to ask me once they’ve had a couple of threads together!
ARE YOU SHIP OBSESSED OR SHIP MORE-OR-LESS?
While I do love the ships I’m currently writing and tend to be obsessed with those I’ve already got established, romantic shipping is not super important to me. There are so many other dynamics I’d like to get more opportunities to explore, like siblings and found family (I fucking LOVE found family). At the moment after a lot of bouncing around, I’m at the ‘romantic shipping is prioritized for mains’ stage which means that if anybody is getting a ship from me, it’s probably one of them. But if the chemistry is right in all the places it needs to be, then I might be open to shipping with other writing partners.
WHAT IS YOUR FAVOURITE SHIP IN YOUR CURRENT FANDOM?
I kinda already answered these at the top! Add Percy Jackson and Annabeth Chase to the list too seeing as I’m currently writing a lot of PJO threads haha.
FINALLY, HOW DOES ONE SHIP WITH YOU?
Patiently? XD I think one of the most important things when it comes to shipping for me is that the muses need to be able to do things together. By which I mean, they need to be able to have multiple kinds of experiences together, there needs to be scope for them to get into a lot of different situations in which we can explore their dynamic further. Like, for example, my ship with Mycroft Holmes as written by @governmentofficial​ and Count Dracula, we created a verse specifically for Drac where he can cause the most havoc in Myc’s life but they do more than just sit and talk. They go on assignments together, Dracula has to deal with Myc’s demons and Myc has to deal with the fact that Dracula is a demon. There’s a lot to their dynamic that can be explored in threads. And when they do sit and talk, the conversation is engaging and lively and usually causes trouble. That’s the kind of chemistry I look for in all my ships.
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temporalbystander · 1 year
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So. I feel it goes without saying but I may as well, if you're using this as a rundown of the episode... Why? I'm really not that entertaining that I add... Anything to the show. Just watch the show.
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Umm.... What? Again. What the hell happened in the last two episodes for this line to make sense? Marinette has done nothing but accept help from her ever growing group of friends when it came to hooking Adrien. The problem was always Marinette dropping the ball when it came to talk to him. Unless you're going to write out why Marinette is the way she is and hand it to him? I don't see what you can do in this situation.
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.... Refer to my earlier comment. This is different from the previous plans... How? I don't mean to pick on Marinette but she's been the failing point in every one of these plans. The only time something like this came close to working was when she had to sub in for Chloe because Nino is a better director than he is a writer. Do like the transition though. Done the same thing twice now and it works.
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Yeah. Marinette is not happy about this development. Not that I blame her. Honestly the two are kind of already together at this point, do they need to keep coming up with these contrived plans to force Marinette closer to him? I get that it's supposed to be some kind of exposure therapy but it really doesn't seem to be working.
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... okay no. Just no. This? This is beyond ridiculous. I'm not rewinding the episode but Alya said earlier "he knows you love him, you know he loves you." If Alya knows that, everyone knows that. As far as I'm concerned that's mission accomplished this lot should be out. Unless they're planning romantic dates there should be no more of this "will they, won't they" anticipation. Newsflash it's a won't they. Why? Because you idiots still don't seem to understand how Marinette caves in front of an audience! And since when did Max and Kim care? Is it another kwamis choice addition? As far as I knew these two weren't even aware of the romances of their classmates.
I know that they are all invested and so on but we got the appropriate reaction in determination when Adrien asked Marinette out. Hell I think we as the viewers are even more invested in this whole thing because we know the potential consequences and have a deeper understanding of Adrien then anyone else does. Maybe it's because I'm pissed about missing the moment they learned the truth but this has just killed any interest I've had in the rest of this episode.
Maybe I'll feel more up to it tomorrow. But for now? I'm leaving this stupidity here.
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You would think with Adriens upbringing that he would be able to take “no” with less salt. His dad, Nathalie, even the Gorilla constantly saying no to his requests. Why does Ladybug, someone who’s basically a work friend, owe him a “yes”?
yeah like? idk why he has no problem with hearing 'no' from authority-
hang on. i just had a thought while i was writing that.
ok. ok. so, Adrien gets told 'no' by: daddy dearest, Nathalie (gabe's right hand), his teachers, and the Gorilla. and (for the most part) he respects that.
Adrien gets told 'no' by: Plagg, Maribug, Alyabug, Nino, Chloe, Bunnix. so what does he do? he suddenly doesn't know what 'no' means.
now, going back to my first line, I think i know why.
Adrien accepts 'no' from authority. people who have power over him in some way.
Adrien refuses 'no' from his peers, coworkers and Plagg. people who don't have power over him.
basically, Adrien refuses 'no' from the likes of his peers or Plagg, but especially Maribug, because they don't have authority over him. if (if) my suspicions are correct, this means a) Adrien doesn't respect 'no' from someone who has no power over him AND b) Adrien believes he has the power. he believes he is in charge, or the authority in the dynamic.
and like, i can see where it could come from. like, most of the authority figures in Adrien's life are the "if you don't respect me as an authority I won't respect you as a person" so i can see him, in not wanting to be "powerless" deciding he was gonna be the powerful one in his new relationships. but like. that's fucked up.
if his mentality is like that it is Not Good. like. i don't think Adrien respects Maribug. i really, really don't. he doesn't respect her as "an authority" because that'd mean she has power over him, and he doesn't respect her as "a person" because well. why should he when he's in charge?
it's fucked up and i hate it and @ whoever decided Adrien's behaviour is romantic: meet me in a dark alleyway. and make arrangements for your funeral.
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anxresi · 2 years
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Hmm Imma take a minute to answer this post...
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It’s not ‘bad’ characters I don’t appreciate, its ‘bad’ writing. If you want the audience to think Chloe’s evil, I dunno... maybe not make her such a great superhero, don’t have her show her emotional side to demonstrate she has a conscience, don’t let her have so many close relationships with people she genuinely cares about, don’t give her two sh*tty parents so that people will sympathize with her behavior, but most of all... DON’T MAKE HER 14 YEARS OLD! 
Generally, children that age aren’t ‘evil incarnate’, a fact that Thomas seemingly wants us to forget in his disturbing grudge against a teenager and in the disgraceful bio written for her on the official Miraculous website. Compare her entry with Hawkmoth’s, and you’ll probably come away thinking she’s the spawn of Satan and he’s just a mild-mannered guy with a totally plausible reason for causing city-wide terrorism. In fact f*ck it, I’m gonna post the pics again...
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Spot the difference. One is full of barely-hidden condemnation and spite, the other... just a standard description (it doesn’t even mention his terrible parenting, talk about a whitewash!) In fact, by implying that Gabriel is threatening murder and mayhem in Paris because he wants to ‘bring his wife back to life’, the one who wrote it is almost giving him praise for his inexcusable actions. ‘Oh, you were responsible for nearly 100 incidences of violent possession and manipulation, as well as almost bringing the entire country to its knees, but you did it all for your comatose lover! Ssoooo romantic! All charges dropped! In fact here... take this medal, a million euros, the key to the city.....’
You might thing I’m joking, but when you read and re-read those two passages, who can possibly say? No chance of ANY redemption for Chloe, she’ll ALWAYS be a brat (apart from the plentiful moments in the first three seasons when she wasn’t) and then later they introduce a ‘perfect’ half-sister for her to show her newly ramped-up horrible attitude in an even starker light. What a lot of nice people Zag has working for them; that they would choose to downplay a murderous madman’s actions in favor of hyping up a troubled teenager’s angst so that SHE becomes the ‘lost cause’. Not the career criminal. Bless their hearts.
So, yea. I appear to have gone off track a bit here in my lengthy tirade, but the bottom line is: you CANNOT give a character like Chloe all this fascinating complexity and these sympathetic moments so we feel for her plight, and then do an about-face and expect us all to hate her indiscriminately! And then compound your error by suddenly making her a MUCH more horrible individual in S4 even compared to S1 to emphasize the new dynamic, as if we have such bad memories we’ve forgotten all her development the past three seasons which has just been unceremoniously dumped. If she’d been an ‘evil’ character from the start and consistently stayed that way throughout, I think MAYBE you’d have a point. But we all know that consistency is not something this show does, and by giving us a relatable and interesting character for the vast majority of the show, then pretending none of that ever happened and she was ‘bad to the bone’ and shallow all along ain’t gonna wash I’m afraid. Lastly, giving her superhero role and best traits to a ‘surprise sister’ introduced from nowhere only adds insult to injury. 
Enough said. F*ck this show. I mean that with utmost sincerity. Ciao. ^^
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spectral-kitkat · 3 years
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Miraculous Rant.
Where the hell do I begin…
Season 1:
The show was decent in season 1. Some episodes were just mindless filler and probably weren’t needed in the grand scheme of things but they helped us get introduced to the characters, we got to know the plot and the world our characters inhabit. It was good. The love story between Adrien and Marinette was cute and off to a touching and fluffy start.
Season 2:
This season was immediately better than season 1. It had character development, it went more into detail about the lore surrounding the Miraculous and we got to learn more about our characters and their families and the villian’s motives. (HM really went from “I wanna destroy the world” to “I wanna wake my wife from the coma she’s in”).
We got to see new heroes which was fun! We got new characters like Luka and Kagami.
The season finale was epic! The Miraculous team all taking down all the previous villains in the show was awesome. At the end we even got Mari kissing Adrien on the cheek. It was great! (Even though it clearly reset itself in season 3 cause it’s never mentioned again)
I really enjoyed season 2 and it’s probably my favourite out of the 4.
Season 3:
Season 3 was kinda good and kinda bad. We had some great episodes but this is where the show took the wrong turn.
Marinette lost some of her character in season 3. This was the start of her descent into being the Queen of Mary Sues. It’s also where she was crowned the Queen of Stalkers! Her character took a fucking nose dive in this season. We had so many moments that just creeped me the fuck out.
1. The ENTIRETY of Puppeteer 2 🤢🤢🤢 I could not stand that episode. When we reached the dreaded statue scene I physically had to pause it like 10 times. That scene takes about 3 minutes to watch… it took me about 20. I cringed so fucking hard because of the secondhand embarrassment I was feeling. That was not sweet, it wasn’t romantic, it wasn’t the least bit cute… it was a train wreck! It was creepy and stalkerish and it’s a wonder Adrien even spoke to her again after that atrocity!
2. LB delivering the present in Chat Blanc. Two words: STALKER BEHAVIOUR!!! I genuinely could not believe my eyes when I saw LB run her hand across everything in his room and then actually SNIFF Adrien’s pillow. Like WTF!!! 🤮 I’m pretty sure whoever was responsible for that scene clearly thought it was the equivalent of when someone gets their S/O’s jumper or something and it still smells like them. But this turned it up to the nth degree and way passed the line of sanity.
Adrien was extremely under-utilised in this season. He didn’t really do anything. The only episodes we got about him didn’t really focus on him. ‘Felix’ whilst focusing on Adrien’s family didn’t really feature him. ‘Party Crasher’ while a beautiful mess was more about Mari trying to get into the party than the party itself. ‘Chat Blanc’ again focused more on Mari trying to fix her mistake.
We got even more heroes in season 3, not in the right order but they were there. It was fun seeing everyone’s transformations.
Season 3 was also the season of destroying redemptions. The big one obviously being Chloe. Season 2 was setting up this amazing redemption for her and before it could go anywhere it was wiped off the face of the earth during the finale (and don’t worry we’ll get to that dumpster fire later). Gabriel also had any remaining sympathy ripped away from him. How did the guy who stopped Gorizilla from letting Adrien die when he only thought he was CN go from that to using his son like fucking baseball in Chat Blanc when he knew his son was CN. Like I knew you were a shit father but you still cared about Adrien in some way shape or form but after that episode I can see I was clearly mistaken!
Before we get to the finale I want to talk about probably my 2 least favourite episodes from this season: Desperada and Reflekdoll
Desperada:
I fucking hated this episode! The only good thing was Luka getting to be Viperion, other than that this episode was awful!
Marinette was a selfish cringey bitch. Completely ignoring Luka to gush about Adrien to Jagged. Brushing Luka off as soon as Adrien turns up. Immediately cuddling up to Aspik and flirting with him when she needed to focus on the akuma (something which she has told CN not to do many times before)
Adrien, I love you kid but Jesus Christ you were a dumbass in this episode! Aspik’s design was terrible! Aspik himself was awful. I know Adrien tried his best but dude you were given the Black Cat miraculous for a reason! He shouldn’t have tried to be Aspik but even when he did he should’ve called it quits after like 5 resets not 25,913 times.
The only person with a brain this episode was Luka. So well done guitar boy, gold star!
Reflekdoll:
This episode was annoying! It was basically the start of the Marinette can do no wrong streak! When they have to swap miraculous I was happy cause it meant we got to see new outfits and see how they each handle the different powers. It would also serve as a way to get LB and CN to see what their partners role is first hand. Until we actually get to it…
LadyNoire is of course amazing and needs no introduction to using this new miraculous that she’s never used before. She’s cocky and confident and basically just LB in Chat’s costume with his powers.
Mister Bug on the other hand is just useless. He struggles with this new miraculous (like anyone would!) and is stupid and goofy. He has to rely on LadyNoire to solve the lucky charm. They swapped miraculous so shouldn’t that mean that Mister Bug should get the lucky vision and the creative powers that the earrings give him.
Overall Reflekdoll is awful. It was shitty writing and the start of Adrien getting the short end of the stick.
And now the season 3 finale… Just what the fuck. That is my only reaction: what the fuck!
Chloe you poor fucking child! What did they do to you!!! So much potential SQUANDERED!!!!
What was the point in bringing in all these different superheros with unique skill sets, costumes and transformations if you were just going to immediately reveal them to the main villian so they can’t be used again. That’s stupid! If you wanted the shock value that is “Oh no HM knows some of the heroes identities!” Then keep it as only some. Have like Max, Kim and Kagami outside trying to find somewhere to hide but unfortunately they get hit. Or Nino and Alya are hiding but the windows open and they get hit. Have some of the heroes hide so they’re fine! Taking away every ally of LB and CN’s was a stupid move! (Even if they wanted Alya to become a spy have her as part of the like 4 that get revealed or something, it’s not that difficult)
Season 3 was 50/50 for me
Season 4:
So I know season 4 isn’t even halfway through yet but so much is wrong with this season already that I need to vent!
So my biggest problem with this season of Miraculous: Tales of Ladybitch and Rena Rouge, I mean Rena Furtive… shit, Chat Noir! Is that CN is basically pointless! Adrien has been flung over a rainbow and is only remembered when he’s needed as
1. Marinette’s love interest
2. Someone for LB to shout at
3. A plot device
He has basically been sidelined. Partners my ASS!!!
Adrien is being blown off by pretty much EVERYONE! It’s coming to a point where this poor sweet summer child is going to crack! And it is not gonna be pretty… I definitely feel like the writers are leading up to a big fight between CN and LB which will probably end with Chat Blanc 2.0.
I REALLY HATE MARINETTE/LADYBUG!!!! In Season 3 I said it was the beginning of her descent, well in season 4 she’s done it. She’s descended, she has hit rock fucking bottom. She is so unlikable I don’t actually care about her as a person. She has entered full blown stalker territory it’s only a matter of time before she starts killing people for even looking at Adrien! Not to mention that Miss Mary Sue here can’t do anything wrong! She never has to suffer the consequences of her actions, she is always perfect no matter what she does… it pisses me off!)
She’s the Guardian now big whoop. I know what it feels like to be stressed and under pressure so I do understand why she needed to tell someone about it all. I just don’t see why that person had to Alya! Especially considering she has someone by her side every akuma attack going through pretty much the exact same thing. I know she’s worried about CB happening again but as I said before the more she leaves him out the more she is actually pushing that to become a possibility! Plus it makes sense for them to reveal their identities now since LB is now the guardian it’s probably a good idea to know who holds the cat miraculous, she knows everyone else’s identities!
Even if she didn’t want to tell CN her identity she could still explain the situation to him. If she didn’t want to tell him anything (which she doesn’t anyway) then instead of Alya she should’ve talked to Luka! Her boyfriend for all of half an episode (thanks writers…). He’s so sweet and caring and clearly loves her so much! If she wanted someone to confide in then why not choose the person you clearly wanted to date but couldn’t because of that very reason! (Yeah I know it’s kinda a moot point now since Luka knows both identities but still). He wanted to try and comfort her so it would’ve been the perfect moment for it. That way you could still date him and he’d know why you had to suddenly leave dates halfway through! But no break the boys heart instead!
Adrien and Marinette were both such fucking idiots in the first 2 episodes. Like why would you start a relationship with someone when you know your heart isn’t in it! That’s called leading someone on and is a really shitty thing to do to someone! No wonder Kagami and Luka ended up akumatized!
Another aspect of season 4 I don’t like is Rena Furtive. Yes ok having a spy for your side is a good strategy but when said spy basically tells an important member of a duo that the 2 person job doesn’t involve them… it just really ticks me off! Alya you are the sidekick to LB and CN! Chat isn’t!
Miraculous specials:
The Miraculous World specials suck! Shanghai is better than NY but still has its problems. Both specials add nothing to the overall plot/lore of the show apart from trying to set up some weird cinematic universe…
NY special:
One of the worst things I’ve ever had to sit through! The plane scene alone I paused a few times. I want to say well done to Mari for trying to move on from Adrien (especially considering I’m pretty sure she’s dating Luka at this point) but I can’t help but think it’s just to give her character some pointless development that goes nowhere and doesn’t actually develop anything!
LB can pretty much fuck off at this point! I hate her! She put all this shit on CN (like she doesn’t know exactly how that feels). It’s like why does she get to go off on holiday but CN can’t. LB should’ve stayed in Paris for 3 reasons:
1. She’s recently become the guardian meaning it would probably be best that she stayed with the Mircle Box
2. She’s the only one who can purity the akumas
3. If she’s so sure about being the boss then she should take responsibility of Paris and the citizens.
What really pisses me off about her is what she says to CN during the big fight. “I can’t trust you”… surely you could have this conversation afterwards since you’re supposed to be focusing on taking down the villian! Plus everyone bashes Adrien for giving his miraculous up in this episode but look at it from his point of view: His partner and best friend just said she couldn’t trust him which in turn caused him to cataclysm someone and essentially kill them. That’s gonna take a toll on anyone, especially a 14 year old! He probably thought in that moment. “Ladybug needs a partner she can trust and someone who won’t mess up and kill someone. She needs a better partner.” It makes sense he renounces his miraculous! I’m just upset that in doing so he loses Plagg who is pretty much his only friend who actually understands what Adrien goes through at home.
When Uncanny gets CN to come back, LB acts like it’s not her fault in the first place that he feels inadequate! She didn’t even apologise for saying what she did! He apologised for lying about not being in Paris but nope LB wasn’t in the wrong at all and didn’t have anything to apologise for 🙄… (yes the LadyNoir hug was amazing but I just wish it was under different circumstances!)
Also are we not gonna mention Gabriel Agreste almost starting WW3??? He wanted to launch a fucking missile!!!
Shanghai:
As I said before, this special is way better for several reasons.
We got MariChat! (Best side to the love square imo). This special actually had some semblance on a plot. Fei, whilst a bit op, was a cool character. It was nice to see Wang Cheng again.
However once again there were many problems.
A big one being Marinette yet again! (What a shock! 😒 I’ll come back to this). Another was that once again HM’s motivation has changed. How is getting the Prodigious gonna help bring back Emilie??
Back to Marinette… The fact that the words “Huh?! There must be some kind of mistake! I always know what's up with Adrien! … His 5 first names and every corresponding name date, his yearly schedule, even his shoe size! If there were anything to know about him, I would know it!” come out of her mouth whilst she is flipping through his schedule that she keeps in her pocketbook is a hugh red flag!!! That is not cute or adorable! That’s messed up and Adrien needs to fucking run and maybe possibly go into witness protection… Marinette is a full blown stalker! Not to mention the GPS she has (that could just be the find my friends app on iphone but still).
It also is extremely rude of her to use not only her great uncle’s birthday but also a lie about wanting to know her Chinese heritage in order to go to Shanghai to stalk her obsession, I mean crush. This could’ve been avoided if the Dupain-Chengs were going to Shanghai for the purpose of celebrating Wang Cheng’s bday and then Adrien just so happened to be in Shanghai.
Also this means LB left Paris without telling CN! I know CN did the same but again he can’t purify the akumas. Plus he has a reason he couldn’t stay in Paris, Mari just went cause her crush did. Great guardianship there Marinette.
This was also the last time CN actually did something. Even if it was for a short while before LB and her female partner took over (the beginning of a theme…)
Other things:
There are 2 other things that I wanna say but felt they needed a separate bit.
In Furious Fu, Su-Han has a rule book that he uses to tell Marinette which rules she has broken. At the end of the episode he tells her that is she breaks 1 more rule that he will take the Miraculous and the Miracle Box off her, which fair enough but wouldn’t it be helpful to leave the rule book with her?! How can she be wary of not breaking anymore rules when she doesn’t even know what the rules are??
Now the big one: Master Fu…
Where do I even start with him. He is so fucking manipulative!! He is Asian Dumbledore!
He decides to leave these extremely powerful jewels in the hands of 13 year olds! Surely leaving the miraculous to someone in their 20s would’ve been better!
He clearly favours LB over CN even though the Ladybug and Black Cat are supposed to be partners! Wouldn’t it make sense for them both to be in contact with the guardian from the start?? He randomly started introducing rules such as if LB and CN find out each other’s identities they would lose their miraculous… what kind of bullshit rule is that? It also came out of fucking nowhere!
Final Thoughts:
But to summarise all of that: Miraculous is on quite a steep decline but I’m invested at this point and I am genuinely curious as to where the fuck this will go.
Marinette needs professional fucking help before the writers even consider canonising Adrienette cause at the moment she is not what Adrien needs!
Adrien needs to stand up for himself! He needs to pull LB to the side and tell her what he feels and what he’s going through cause he is on the precipice of a breakdown!
(Small point that’s more to do with the fandom: when searching for fanfics it’s really annoying that Adrien Agreste/Chat Noir Bashing is a tag but Marinette Dupain-Cheng/Ladybug Bashing isn’t. Why does everyone think Marinette can do no wrong???)
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bukojuiice · 3 years
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—the lovey-dovey things they do with you while you're both stuck at home during quarantine
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katsuki bakugo: cooking and baking with him! it all started on a cozy afternoon in April, you’re mindlessly scrolling through tiktok whilst cuddling with katsuki (your sparky bf practically asleep in your arms) when you stumbled upon some cute and interesting cooking videos appearing on your fyp. katsuki peers through your phone and groggily asks if you want to try out and attempt to make some of them and you immediately say yes!
the two of you start with something simple and basic, dalgona coffee! (even playfully arguing whether or not you should adding more whipped cream to your drinks or not), after that, you then take your culinary journey a bit further by making some baked sushi, cloud bread, and mini donut cereals among many other scrumptious delights! after a while, you decided to buy some matching “kiss the cook” aprons online and even started a tiktok account detailing all of the special twists katsuki made to the recipes (although he absolutely refused to make an account at first, with some probing and dozens of pouty faces and puppy eyes coming from his adorable significant other, he finally gives in) dancing and kisses in the kitchen, spreading flour on each other’s faces, leaving sneaky love notes by the fridge, and making each other coffee in the morning were just some of the little add-ons the two of you would do with each other.
izuku midoriya: online escape rooms and virtual museum tours! the national museum of japan were offering some free virtual tours around the museum and the two of you could not just pass up the opportunity to see all the intricate pieces being displayed in the museum. however, izuku wanted to experience something else that's similar to that and so, after seeing an ad on twitter for an virtual escape room experience, izuku excitedly told you about it. jumping and hopping around like a little bunny and you couldn’t help but agree as seeing him so happy and so excited for something will never fail to make your heart flutter. the two of you immediately book a reservation and even bring out your virtual reality gears for the full immersive experience. you’re clinging to his arm the whole time as you virtually traverse a horror escape game and your freckled boyfriend tries his best to be brave just for you.
with both of your intelligent and inquisitive minds combined together, with the occasional soft couple bickering, and having to listen to izuku murmur to himself for several minutes,  the two of you solved 7 escape rooms (for a week straight) in a span of three hours each. the two of you take turns in doing the tasks of the game, and whoever fails to do so, has to do the other person’s bidding for the entire day. although the two of you could never force the other to do any mean-spirited dares to each other, most of the bidding you told each other to do were peppering each other kisses on the cheek, long and warm hugs, choosing the movie for the night, cuddling in the bed and holding hands among many other things.
todoroki shoto: binging movies and tv shows on netflix with him! this was the perfect opportunity to help your icy-hot boyfriend finally indulge in everything pop culture. and what better way to do so than on netflix and other streaming sites? the two of you end up watching every romantic movie dear to your heart. mixed with bed or couch cuddles, blankets wrapped around the two of you, a lot of cheesy and loving whispers said, and paired with some comfort food you ordered online. your watching area varied. sometimes the two of you would watch in the bedroom, living room, and sometimes you would even make a pillow fort with dangling fairy lights attached to it filling the tent with fluffy stuff toys to lie on just so that the two of you can watch on the floor.
shoto cried when the two of you finished watching the notebook and the eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. and all you did the entire night was give him all the hugs and kithes you could provide him. ever since then, the two of you opt for more light-hearted movies. rom-coms, disney movies and sitcoms where he endlessly referenced iconic lines from friends, the office, how i met your mother, and brooklyn 99. the days in quarantine go by with the two of you just mindlessly singing and dancing along to disney songs, rewatching rom-coms for the umpteenth time, reenacting some scenes from iconic movies with dry yet hilarious acting, and just discussing movie theories whenever he cutely and innocently asks you about some small details he missed every time you finish watching a movie for the day
eijiro kirishima: training and exercise routines with him! your shark-toothed boyfriend is a fitness buff through and through. to the point that a room in your house dedicated to just gym and fitness equipment exists. but when quarantine struck the world and your lovely home, you slightly lost your motivation to work out. eijiro continues to encourage you to do so ofc! with the two of you occasionally going outside to jog but aside from that, nothing much else. when he catches you watching a chloe ting video on youtube, he scoops you up from the couch, and you giggle trying to tell him to put you down yet he refuses to do so, as he carries you all the way to your little gym room. you notice that there are yoga mats sprawled about and since then, the two of you would do a lot of yoga as it has been proven to decrease anxiety. sometimes the two of you would get distracted and start dancing to the exercise music, accompanied endless laughter and giggles when kirisihima would do his daily planking exercise with you sitting on top of him as he does so.
there were also times when the two of you were so tired and sore. so you would give each other loving massages, there were also times when the two of you would just sleep it out or just lounge in the bed. excercise couldn’t stop your cravings and so, and there were also times when the two of you would do some food mukbangs you’ve been craving for recently.
shinsou hitoshi: playing video games with him and taking care of your little pet kitten! right before quarantine started, shinsou surprised you with a pet little kitten that the two of you decided to name gigi, named after the cat from kiki’s delivery service. the two of you always running around the house as if you were parents to a newly-born baby, watching your cute little kitten frolicking around, touching and interacting with everything he could find. after watching some “cat parents” videos on youtube and learning some tips, you attempt to give it a bath, resulting into a very wet failure. with the only time you can feel peace and quiet was when gigi was asleep or whenever he would be drinking his vet-approved milk. your quarantine life was hectic and chaotic but taking care of a cute little bundle of joy with your equally loving and handsome boyfriend... well, life couldn’t get any better than this.
when you were finally able to get the hang of the cat parents life, you and shinsou finally found the time to rest and relax by playing video games. may it be a horror, action, adventure, rhythm, or fantasy game, you were always playing with him. maybe as a player 2 or just as the supportive significant other who helped him solve puzzles, make story game choices that could change the game, and even help him with the buttons if he was trying to fight some hard boss. whenever there are jumps cares in the game, he would hold your hand and give you reassuring pats. whenever the two of you would play against each other on the other hand, he has his arms wrapped around you, with you still being extremely focused at the game at hand, he would give you pecks on the cheek to try and make you distracted so that he can win. your little pet kitten, gigi, sleeping on the couch as the two of you play to your heart’s content.
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twin-books · 2 years
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👀Canon ML Felix
Firstly, thank you, anon, for the ask. I very much appreciate it. <3 Alright, now... Boy, do I have opinions on this gremlin. Let's just make one thing clear here... I love him. Now that, that's out of the way, let's talk about him for reals; I actually quite enjoyed his introduction (besides the sexual assault thing which I am still very mad about). I thought he was pretty fun. Then when season 4 hit... this kid is literally the only character I care about now. I wish I was exaggerating. He's got more nuance than Gabriel, more intrigue than Adrien, and is way more fun to watch than Marinette. I'm sorry, that's my opinion. But the thing is, I don't trust the ml team for a second. Especially with Astruc's very high and mighty tweet about canon Felix where he's all like, "So... do we like Felix now?" Why don't I trust them? Oh simple, really. Astruc relentlessly teased and bullied PV fans for the "crime" of liking the concepts and for daring to like "the worst protagonist to never exist", Felix. Then proceeded to add Felix to the canon show but purposely make him suck to "prove" how bad he was and then goes and suddenly turns that around for no real reason. So I got a theory... You know what happened with Chloe? That's going to happen with Felix. I'm betting you. Maybe faster, maybe slower, but I refuse to let go of this belief. I refuse to be surprisingly crushed yet again by these people who think it's funny to make fun of PV fans. He also clearly still doesn't like Felix if you saw his recent tweet where he retweeted clear PV fanart but acted like the Felix in it was the canon Felix and said "Kick him where it hurts, Marinette!". (Btw, what a freaking jerk move. I am trying to be nicer to this man but this tweet really ticked me off, especially since I follow the artist of that image and they're a sweetheart). Guess what happens to characters Astruc very clearly doesn't like? Miracle Queen. Miracle Queen happens. It also doesn't help that his whole "Do we like Felix now" thing sounds eerily similar to him riding on the hopes and dreams of Chloe lovers while still subtly bullying them until Miracle Queen came around and all subtly was thrown out the window. I don't care if he won't be involved as much anymore. I don't trust that for a second. But regardless, when that does happen (and I will be pleasantly surprised if this somehow doesn't happen), I will try to still love the gremlin because he's got more personality than the two leads combined. You have no idea how refreshing it is to not have a character who is obsessed with someone romantically. Literally every main character has someone they are obsessed with (Chloe no longer counts since she is no longer important) besides, sort of, Alya. Like yeah, she loves Nino but she isn't obsessive. Unlike her best friend and her boyfriend and his best friend and his best friend's dad and his best friend's teacher/guardian/assistant. But she's still all about romance (clearly with how she won't stop helping Marinette with Adrien). Felix just wants to screw Gabe over and steal jewelry. That is so freaking refreshing. I am so tired of this show's awful romance. Like, please Felix, screw things up. Just don't fall in love or you'll be like the rest of them. Also, he's cool. This boy has had more badass moments in his only 3 episodes than most every miraculous hero that isn't Ladybug, Rena Rouge, and Chat Noir. He's so fun to watch because he's completely unpredictable (like I mean, his motives are, kind of, and the writing but not what he's going to do exactly). Man, it's so nice to have something that isn't so freaking predictable. Let's not forget that this boy has done more to change the status quo than the two freaking leads. It's still not a lot but ain't it freaking sad he's only had 3 episodes so far and somehow he's contributed more progress to the plot than Ladynoir? I am also convinced he meant his apology in the episode, Felix, and I'm convinced he does care for Adrien at least a little bit. And even if the show proves me wrong I won't care because I rejected canon years ago, okay?
Make no mistake, I know Strike Back will be awful and will probably do it's best to make Felix suck... but I'm watching it anyway purely for Felix. I also kind of fell in love with Dog!Felix's design and I just love him. I love him a lot. Also, even if ya hate canon Felix at least we can all agree that him screwing Gabe over constantly is endlessly entertaining. Like, I could watch that nonstop. To sum it up; I love him but I don't trust the writers with him at all considering what they did to every character I had the nerve to like. But I'm looking forward to seeing more of my gremlin. 10/10 for Adrien's equivalent to Shadow the Hedgehog. Thanks again for the lovely ask and I hope you're having a wonderful day, afternoon, evening, night, or whatever time it is where you are, anon. <3 Send Me a Miraculous Character
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percentstardust · 1 year
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some canon divergent info for lucifer that y’all need to know:
i use season 1-4 of lucifer as canon for my lucifer. anything after that, i don’t acknowledge. i will have to be plotted with to work something out.
further more, i will not write him romantically with chloe unless the canon for her that is established as her being made for him by god is completely taken out. this makes not only me uncomfortable, but lucifer uncomfortable as well. lucifer has been continuously trying to gain free will from god. this is something in the comics i apply heavily to my portrayal of him. chloe being made for him basically takes away her free will and he’s not okay with that. otherwise, i am alright with shipping him with chloe. chloe is also not his first love. he’s been in love several times over his long life.
lucifer does not leave at the end of season four. he stays in los angeles cause nothing unless god forcing him back down to hell himself will MAKE HIM GO BACK PERMANENTLY. when he abandoned the throne, he never attended on going back unless something happens where he would he need to. he would not stay there permanently either. he would fix the problem or yank whatever soul out he needs ( it’s very easy for him to travel between hell and earth he’s a fallen archangel and said to be the strongest made by god IT SHOULD NOT BE HARD FOR HIM TO GO TO HELL AND BACK ) before returning to the human world.
i would like to acknowledge that lucifer treats mazikeen much better than he does onscreen. he treats EVERYONE ELSE better, actually. he is just takes a bit to warm up to others unless he already knows them. he has always cared about mazikeen. he treats her as his best friend and second in command. and queen / wife depending on the mazikeen i am interacting with. mazikeen is the most important person in his life besides his children.
lucifer’s personality is a bit different and more comic based as well, which means he has killed some of the criminals he has helped chloe investigate. woops. no one is going to miss a human trafficker, detective. he is also less tolerant of people who disrespect him excluding a select few. he is a bit mean when he wants to be as well and he has a temper. he does have his silly moments but not as much as the tv lucifer does. he’s much more serious as well. he once trapped a couple because they pissed him off and he once threw a dude into a star as well. so he literally will choose violence and not even chloe can stop him.
lucifer does not always help chloe solve crimes, he also likes to meddle in the workings of the supernatural around los angeles.
lucifer will never make up with god no matter how many times he apologizes. he will never forgive him either.
lucifer will NOT tolerate anyone trying to fix him. he doesn’t need to be fixed. he doesn’t believe he is evil.
lucifer, and the other angels, can have children with mortals and other creatures without there being any special conditions for it to happen. lucifer is a father, actually, and he’s a good one TO HIS KIDS.
lucifer never cut off his wings even if that was an act of rebellion for tv lucifer. he would never do that to himself even to spite god. his wings are too precious to him and he would rather DIE WITHOUT THEM.
lucifer still has a devil face and the reason why he has it is because it’s a punishment from god.
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What are your thoughts about Adrien/Cat Noir?
You got me started, so I won’t mince words.
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Adrien is a pain in the ass.
The way the show constantly makes it seem like he’s in the right when he absolutely fucking ISN’T is something that has infuriated me for a very long time. The writing makes him seem perfect but he isn’t. He’s not even a good friend, and Marinette’s crush addled brain forces her to listen to his garbage advice even though she knows better and is more experienced in social matters.
This fucking kid has only been breathing fresh fucking air for a few months and somehow he’s suddenly a fucking expert on how to deal with bullies and manipulators. That’s how he comes off to Marinette with how often he lets Chloe’s shitty behavior slide or his dumb advice about Lila: “Making a bad guy suffer has never turned them into a good guy.” Or, “If you humiliate her he’ll just be hurt more.”
But Chloé gets to humiliate and hurt others with barely any consequences from anyone, let alone Adrien. And Lila just gets to publicly make fools out of anyone who believes her nonsensical bullshit. And it’s only appropriate to chastise them only AFTER someone has been humiliated, hurt, and even EXPELLED right Adrien?
And sure, I can acknowledge when Adrien has his moments of a spine but it never lasts and always falls through. People are constantly screaming “but his dad and his childhood and he’s so sheltered and can’t stand up to anyone !” but forget that he chose to be a superhero and fight evil and has stood up to people.
I mean he stands up for Chloé and Lila quite a bit no matter who they hurt. He had no problem standing up to Marinette and shaming her and the others when they were rightfully happy that Chloé, their longtime tormentor and bully was leaving. He gets to be sad that Chloé is leaving and shame on anyone who is happy about that.
He was so concerned that Chloé left hurt and humiliated, (which was her own fault for trying to lie about her school project and after the bullshit she pulled with the Bee Miraculous) that he didn’t care about how badly Chloé made others feel on a daily basis. They were rightfully relieved to have Chloé gone and to celebrate having some peace in school for fucking once.
He seemed to have forgotten about how she nearly killed a train full of fucking people to make herself look like a hero. How soon he forgets how Chloé sabotaged Marinette’s great uncle, how she treats Sabrina, how she broke into Marinette’s room and stole her diary to win a class president election, stole Marinette’s hat design and tried to frame her for stealing, how she broke into Marinette’s locker and vandalized her gift to Bustier. Just so many things.
But noooo. That’s not important. What’s important was that HIS FRIEND was sad and that all her bad behavior is negated and that they shouldn’t celebrate her leaving because SHE kept HIM company when he was kept inside his home. Nothing else matters Right Adrien?
And let’s not forget about Lila. I’ve heard so many bullshit excuses about why he won’t expose Lila and it pisses me off something fierce:
“He doesn’t know that Lila threatened Marinette!” “Marinette didn’t tell him about the threat!” “He can’t stand up for himself because he’s scared his dad will pull him out of school!” “He’s scared of Lila!” “But his upbringing” “But his dad!” “He doesn’t have evidence!” “His advice is right!” “He doesn’t know how dangerous Lila is!”
ALL. COMPLETE. BULLSHIT.
Especially that last one. There has been multiple occasions where Lila has proven how dangerous she is outside of being akuamtized but he still won’t expose her. The time she got Kagami akumatized and WILLINGLY helped Oni-Chan, was proven true by the horn on her head growing every time she lied. Adrien as Chat Noir saw this. Ladybug warned him. A FIREFIGHTER examined Lila’s ankle and basically said she was full of shit about her injury and saw Chat Noir chew her out over her willingly helping an akuma.
Still don’t know how the firefighter didn’t report that to the cops but then I remember that Thomas Astruc is shit and I say to myself, “Ah, that’s why.”
Adrien knew then especially how dangerous Lila was. He even warned Ladybug about her. If I was Ladybug I’d have said “Yeah, no shit. I tried to tell you that 5 minutes ago but sure.” But instead of outing Lila, he still says NOTHING and continues to let her lie and promise his friends things she can’t possibly deliver, continues to let her mess with his friends dreams because she’ll be “hurt more.”
When was this bitch hurt at school I wanna know.
Also, there’s the fact that Adrien has chewed Lila out multiple times about her behavior, so he’s not afraid to stand up to her. He’s even done it in public where anyone can hear him like in school. But he just keeps giving her chances. I was excited when he chewed Lila out after “Ladybug” but then that quickly went away when he said that he didn’t have any proof.
But he does have proof of her lying. He was there when Ladybug chewed Lila out about her lying. If he spoke up about that, they would believe him because he doesn’t have a motive to speak against Lila, like the way others were skeptical of Marinette’s claims because of her crush on Adrien. There’s also the fact that she lied to get into his house and got Nathalie and his bodyguard into trouble.
There is a picture she sent out to multiple people so she can’t rebut that. And then the whole shit about framing Marinette and the red butterflies. He should have spilled all the fucking tea but he still kept his mouth shut. If his little talk with Lila hadn’t panned out Marinette would still be out of school and she would look like some horrible villain and no one would doubt Lila.
But noooooo. Lila will be humiliated, she’ll be hurt. It wouldn’t make her a good guy.
Screw you Adrien.
As for Chat Noir....
*breathes in*
He needs to get a fucking reality check or he needs to not have a miraculous. Yeah. I said it.
Here’s a special message for him:
Ladybug said no. Stop asking her to date you. Stop trying to make plans or trick her into romantic situations with you. Don’t throw tantrums because she doesn’t tell you things or because she won’t do what you want. Stop goofing off during battles. Stop sacrificing yourself you absolute DUMBASS.
Sincerely, me.
It boggles me why he gets to do all the shit he does and has no fucking consequences. Marinette’s toe can’t even twitch without someone breathing down her fucking neck about being the bigger person or just chastising her for not living up to the standards of a Ladybug.
I’m looking at you Tikki.
But Adrien gets to just do all kinds of shit without a HINT of consequences as Chat Noir. It’s fucking WILD. But apparently to some it’s more important that he keeps Plagg because he’s lonely and he shouldn’t be trapped inside his house with Gabriel.
That’s not what a miraculous is for??!?!!?!?!! 🥴
And sure, Marinette has had some slip ups as Ladybug. But not nearly as many as Adrien has as Chat Noir. But like I said, Marinette gets blamed for anything by any and everyone whether she’s Ladybug or not. Tikki and Alya chastised her because she entered the game tournament to spend time with Adrien.
WHY??
She didn’t cheat, she entered fairly and played fairly and won fairly just like Adrien did. But because it was to spend time with Adrien it was wrong. Even Max’s sore loser ass admitted before he left that Marinette beat him fair and square. It’s a competition. He wasn’t entitled to have a spot. He even looked upset when Adrien beat him and Adrien had a worried look on his face. Tikki even chastises Marinette saying that there were better ways to spend time with Adrien.
But there WEREN’T.
Adrien’s time is so closely monitored that he barely ever gets time to spend with friends. That was the only chance Marinette had to spend time with Adrien. But of course Marinette gets the heat for it.
But Adrien gets nearly nothing when he causes Copy Cat because of his lie about Ladybug. He gets to throw a tantrum because Ladybug didn’t come to a picnic she never agreed to in the first place with no consequences. He gets to be upset about Ladybug having someone she loved and refuse to work together with her. And it’s all just glossed over.
But Marinette? Everything she does is always wrong. She has no choice but to be perfect or somehow the whole fucking world ends. And while it’s not right, Adrien only has to look perfect for his dad’s company. The amount of pressure isn’t the same. He gets to be carefree in at least half of his life, but Marinette is always under pressure and always judged harshly while Adrien gets to fuck up with barely any consequences or repercussions.
In conclusion, I’m so tired of this “sunshine boy”. You asked for this, and I delivered.
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Rewriting Chloe Bourgeois's Character Arc
(Spoilers for season 4)
In my opinion, Chloe is one of, if not the most underutilized characters in the entire series, and her scrapped redemption arc will haunt me forever. So, I decided to write my idea for how her character could've progressed, while still leaving room for Zoe to enter into the picture.
This won't be the most polished product, it admittedly has been a while since I've watched Miraculous, and I put it all together in a rush, but this idea has been growing in the back of my mind for a long time, and I was gonna lose it if I didn't put it in writing. So, here goes:
Chloe becomes Queen Bee, and sucks at first because of her inexperience, and selfish, showboating tendencies. But as time goes on, akumatized villains get stronger and more frequent, and Ladybug and Chat Noir need her assistance more often, she learns to be more heroic as she gets more experience.
Then Zoe comes along. Chloe knew nothing about Zoe's existence practically up until she showed up. She assumes that because she was living in New York she has a closer relationship with their mother, and she also notices that Zoe is able to really connect with her father more than she does, so Chloe shuns her out of jealousy.
Zoe puts on her mean girl act in public to try and connect with Chloe, which leads to her being admired by Sabrina, but Chloe thinks she's trying to take her place. Zoe eventually drops the act, but this causes her to become more popular at school, and people begin comparing the sisters, favoring Zoe, further causing Chloe to distrust and dislike her.
Through some circumstance (injury or illness or something) she is unable to perform as Queen Bee the next time she's needed, so Ladybug gives the miraculous to Zoe as a stand-in. Chloe now feels as though she's being replaced as a daughter, a friend, and a hero. She nearly becomes akumatized, but she's able to resist.
The next time Ladybug comes to hand off the bee miraculous to Zoe, Chloe, still recovering from her (injury/illness), overhears. She snatches the miraculous, transforms, and runs off. She tries to fight the villain on her own, but is defeated. The villain is defeated by Ladybug, Chat, and Rena instead. Ladybug tries to take Chloe's miraculous back, but she runs off again, this time to Adrien's house.
Once Adrien arrives she tells him everything that she's been feeling, and reveals herself to him as Queen Bee. He tries to help her, but she gets upset when he suggests giving her miraculous back, thinking that he doesn't believe in her. This is the last straw, and she becomes akumatized with the goal of taking down all of the other miraculous users, and becoming the only hero in Paris. She reveals her identity to the city.
During the battle with Ladybug and Chat, Zoe, Sabrina, and her father all try to talk to Chloe, and she begins resisting the akuma, which slows her down, but ultimately she doesn't break free. She's eventually defeated. After being de-akumatized Chloe talks to Ladybug and Chat. Ladybug explains that she never intended to replace her as Queen Bee permanently, that the work she did as a hero will never be erased, and that she can still do good with or without a miraculous, but she can't have her act as Queen Bee again because her identity was revealed.
Chloe says goodbye to Pollen, and gives up the miraculous. Afterwards, Adrien visits her at her home, and tells her that he's proud of her for doing the right thing, and that he always believed she was capable. Chloe decides to open up more to Zoe after remembering how she tried to help her, and the two eventually become close. Chloe also starts treating her father and Sabrina better.
Ultimately, she maintains her sharp personality, but she also begins really connecting with her other classmates, and now becomes good natured frenemies with Marinette, instead of spiteful rivals. They still argue and get on each other's nerves, but it's more like banter than actual fighting.
Also, with someone to play sarcasm and banter off of like she does with Chat, this could cause some of Ladybug's traits to leak into Marinette's civilian mannerisms, something that Adrien could take notice of, furthering the romantic plot for them.
She also begins trying to use her money and influence to help people, living up to Ladybug's words that she can be good without a miraculous. Remembering how her friends and family nearly helped her fight off the influence of the akuma, she starts planning and funding communal activities, so the people of Paris can all build stronger relationships.
Zoe succeeds her as the bee miraculous holder.
And here it is. Impossible for it to be perfect, but I honestly think what I came up with is better than what we got in canon. Let me know what you guys think! Is my idea good? Would you make any improvements, or would you have taken Chloe's character in a different direction entirely?
I originally wrote all of this down with halfhearted intent to make a fanfic out of it, but after thinking about it, I realized I don't really want to make a whole story out of it, I just wanted to put it out there as a concept. But, if anyone else wants to use it and flesh it out in a bigger story, feel free! Just let me know, so I can read it!
(I already posted this in like two other places, so I figured I'd share it here toooo!)
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Gabriel Agreste reaction because why not
This is bad journalism and highkey disrespectful Alya I- Ladybug has such a pyaari and cute pic and Chat??? bruh my boy doesn’t deserve that
cute amazing but alya bestie u sure thhis safe🙂
extra points for good edit but also- how did you get luka’s pic i
HOW TF DID YOU GET THAT PIC???
HELP MY MIND WENT HAWKMOTH/MIRACULOUS INSTA AU😭😭😭😭😭😭
Amelie and Felix seem really close good for them atleast there’s one good parent in this show beside tom and sabine and alyas
That mother son interaction was lowkey very cute okay
SIR HE WAS TALKING GET OUT YOU PIECE OF TRASH I HOPE YOU GET HIT BY A BUS
sorry i have a lot of pent up anger from ephemeral
…that was literally her lunch that adRIEN BROUGHT MAN CANT EVEN DKSHSJSNS FUCK GABRIEL AGRESTE
HELP THE GIRLS WENT “okay this is too big a problem for just the girls now time for our aces, gays please enter”
wtf is up with their smiles- i- okay
“hes the only one who doesn’t”😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭i fully expect them to say “even more than my boyfriend here”
nOT MARC BEING LIKE “otherwise there would be no story” like 1. self diss thomas 2. we now know bestie likes the pining/oblivious trope
“romantic comedy specialists” this should be interesting
can i just say i absolutely love this au
also does this mean marc and nath write fanfic of their classmates kehsksjs this is well thought of and made
also GABRIEL AS A WIYCH I FUCKIN CANT IM DYING ALSO HIS COSTUME IS SIMILAR TO SHADOWNMOTH
marinette looks muah she really is a knight in shining armour
adrien in a dress is so fucking superior
THEYRE HER FAIRY GODMOTHERS SKSBJSSBKSHAKSJS I LOVE THIS
i love these animated things sm sksjkshsjsnsjsjs i can sense the dedication put into this ep and i appreciate it sm
“each week we will devise a new plan” lets play a game how many adrienette aus have marc and nathaniel written
i love that zoe is included in this 🥺🥺🥺
SUCHA CUTE KISS JDHEJEJSMS
imagine if this got into adriens hands tho im just saying im just saying @/allthefanficwriters
also this reminds me of the 86th floor cosplay’s mlb school play except adriens the princess and maris the knight
…how do they know about the hamsters??
ALIX NO THE UGLY TOAD SKSBSJSNKS
CHLOES ANIMATION I LOVE THIS SJSJS
thomas really wanted to make her so irredeemable instead of letting the character grow sigh wasted potential
chloe animation is so funny im dying
bestie chloe why do you want adrien to be locked up i
nathaniel honey ily but there better be plastic on that because that was beautifully drawn and i will literally k word you how dare you ruin pure beauty
mari: nobody’s gonna know tikki: they’re gonna know mari: …how would they know? tikki: …..they’re gonna know
zoe you sweetheart
i want marcs bi gloves
gorillas so cute
PONYTAIL MARI
adrien showing his chat noir off by catching a heavy flying object nice bestie
“do we know each other?” “UHHHHHHH”
marinette being clumsy to get her way>>>
ITS FAKE ADRIEN BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
maris eye squint at felix felt bestie felt
he almost looks pure when he smiles
nvm theres the evil smile
😭😭😭not him being angry
“ae felix” aa nhi raha kya bhai? sab wait kar rhe hai dumbcharades khelte hai ps this is hindi so most of you may not understand
the fact that if adrien hadn’t called him bestie wouldve clear cut heard gabriel
🎶eye contact🎶 dhum dhum 🎶prolonged eye contact🎶 eye squint kagami so true
felix is sus
PFFT DID KAGAMI JUST 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭KAGAMI WHYYYYYY ok but also adrien she already has a drink ik you’re trying to diffuse the tension but cmon
what the fuck kind of heist
felix might just be the smartest character in this entire show
HOLY FUCK
for a second there i thought Felix was also a sentimonster
“just a finger snap will be enough to make you disappear” aight nvm
THIS MAN DOES NOTHING BUT TRAUMATISE CHILDREN OH MY FUCKING GOD YOU HUMAN EMBODIMENT OF A TRASHCAN
i think narcissism na inke khoon mai hai bhenchod
HE ESCAPED IT TF??? WAIT ONLY CHLOE HAS ESCAPED IT LIKE ALYA AND NINO BROKE THROUGH IT BUT OHMYFUCKINGGOD?????
wait omg what just happened
SO YOU CAN AKUMATISE A SENTIMONSTER HAHA FEAR
it’s kind of sad
like why would you give YOURSELF that same badha wala design like um
chloe no you’re not evil you’re a fucking kid wtf man thomas stop talking your frustrations out on this child dude
help the way he just stopped bob lmao
kagami is my queen and if anyone hates on her they’re gonna get their kneecaps and spine broken she so brave 🥺🥺
we didnt get no plagg content❤️‍🔥💔 actually we didn’t get any kwami content this episode i- :(
the way he’s carrying felix i- what is this a piggyback ride
the mini fourth wall breaka ksjsjsjsjskks
that was…a short fight
THAT RING- WAIT TF SINCE WHEN IS THE RING ON HIS HAND SQUARE WAIT WHAT DO THE TWIN RINGS MEAN ONE FOR FELIX AND ONE FOR ADRIEN WTF WTF I- WTF
pretty charm
ahaha im scared
OMG FELIX NOTICED THE PANT OMG i have to agree he’s evil by he’s a smart evil
awwww theyre making a manga on marinette
also i love the fact that they know everyone in paris blind like all they did was give marinette a mustache, a ponytail instead of pigtails and changed her from marinette to marino and the waiter costume and nobody even batted an eye?
I LOVE THE SCREENCAP OMG
…. i’m scared haha
help that was long anyways i’m like sleepy as fuck i don’t even know why i wrote this but eh so bie ly you look amazing
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Why Adrien is Better off Gay/Bi/Pan || Miraculous, Why?
(Before I begin, note that this is my opinion over the topic and am no way am bashing anyone’s love for the ship and/or character. I respect who and what you like, therefore expect the same courtesy. However, if this is something you cannot handle, please click the back button as this will be a heavily discussed topic. No flames allowed. Other than that, enjoy.)
I’m afraid I have to address the elephant in the room. Of how the hetero pairings for Adrien are about as real as Twilight. Sometimes it makes me wonder if Thomas Astruc looked at the ships in the end of Naruto and though… makes sense? That’s a long shot convo for another day.
I’m going to take the time in this chat to discuss why each female who has an interest in Adrien has no chance of having a healthy relationship with him and to why male characters have better chances! Let’s look at the girls one by once.
Lila: Let’s start with the obvious. Lila is clearly not interested in Adrien for his personality, but merely for the good looks and fame. She really hasn’t demonstrated any behavior that she cares for him genuinely and hangs off of him constantly as a possession. It’s clear Lila sets her eyes on Adrien because he’s famous, popular and wants him as a trophy husband. Lila is pretty toxic on her own to go so far as to sneak in and stalk Adrien. What’s worse is that she now has Gabriel’s permission to do so. If he were to be paired with Lila, it’ll break him and be nothing but hell.
Chloe: While it shows itself that Adrien has only platonic feelings for Chloe, she still hopes for something more. Adrien cares deeply for Chloe because he was her first friend, though it’s obvious Chloe wants more. Though Chloe has a mean streak and a possessive behavior where she tends to be cruel to people aside from Adrien and expects to get away with it every time. With the behavior she gets from being spoiled and trying to live up to her mother, would it be farfetched to say a future marriage between these two would be like Audrey/Andre? I don’t think so. Plus, she forgets his birthday. What kind of friend does that?
Kagami: Not going to lie, out of all the pairs, Kagami does have the most potential to be paired with Adrien. She meets him through fencing, they get time to know each other and they slowly start to grow as friend. However, that just about ends when it comes to such as Kagami is another girl who takes it a step too far. Like Chloe, Kagami follows too much in her mother’s footsteps and also is overly aggressive and competitive. She looks to quickly claim Adrien because they’re ‘perfect’, which is a word Adrien hates a lot under his façade. She’s gets possessive around other girls near Adrien and moves too quickly, also forcing Adrien to make his decisions as if he doesn’t have the time to decide.
And last…
Marinette: Marinette… in a way is a small combination of the girls combine. No doubt she’s sweet, shy and tries help at times when matters. BUT she’s also obsessive, possessive, and hypocritical. Things a potential yandere usually becomes. She invades Adrien’s privacy, stalks him, and steals from him more so than Lila. She doesn’t mind crossing boundaries as far as doing illegal acts such as breaking into his locker, copying his schedule? How even. She also tried to confess to Adrien on the day his mother disappeared/died which is a time for MOURNING and COMFORT! She also has no problems calling other people out on this behavior, yet she does the same things. Hypocrisy is never a good color to wear.
Not to mention she only is ‘in love’ with one side of him. As Ladybug, which is important, she tends to put him down as Chat Noir, doesn’t give him proper respect in public and doesn’t include him with important matters, especially with Master Fu. She treats him as his sidekick rather than his partner and leaves him in the dark. She thinks of herself as Batman and him Robin. If you read the comics or watch some of DC shows, you know how well THAT goes. Marinette cannot love Adrien without loving and respecting him as Adrien AND Chat.
Granted, she’s not the only girl who treats Chat badly, but she is supposed to be his ‘partner’ so… yeah.
For these girls it wouldn’t make sense. Not to mention at least once, the girls tend to make Adrien uncomfortable holding him on his arm and such. They don’t act like they care of Adrien’s well being at all (except for Kagami sometimes), but make him to be some prized to be won. Forced shipping is toxic shipping.
I can gladly blame the poor writing on the show, but pretty much it did it’s damage enough for me to say I cannot or will not romantically ship these girls with Adrien. If there were potential girls, girls like Rose, Juleka heck even Alix, but it’s safe to say that’s out of the question.
You know who DOES have the more potential, though? The boys.
Yes. As we take a chance to look at the friends he bonds with, its easy to say Adrien is more comfortable around the guys. The party before it was crashed, the video game tournament, these are just a few that aren’t shown often but do show more of Adrien’s comfort level. What guys you ask?
A perfect example for a ‘friends to lover’ romance would be Nino for example. He starts off subtly and gets to know Adrien from the start, not showing any animosity after the misunderstanding with Adrien and his childhood friend, Marinette. Nino also goes through lengths to help Adrien as far as to stand up to Gabriel to give Adrien a friggin’ birthday party! And got akumatized for it. Adrien also shows to go through the same lengths to help Nino hook up with Marinette so far as to set him up alone in the zoo. Nino is sweet, caring and he works well with Chat.
Another potential love interest (my personal OTP), Luka. From the get-go of how they met from a trip accident, Luka greets Adrien with kindness and welcomes him to the group in Captain Hardrock. In ‘Desperada’, that same friendliness still holds as Luka trust Adrien with his guitar, his most prize possession. Luka also does his best to keep Adrien safe and hidden away as Adrien returns the favor to save Luka from getting hit. Don’t push me about the locker scene because there are MULTITUDINOUS ways of how I can make so many ‘In the closet’ references. Also, that wink Chat gave, and the look Luka had? Need I say more? Good. And let’s not forget the icing on the cake and keep in mind to remember:
Adrien chose Luka to wield the Snake miraculous. ADRIEN, not ladybug, chose LUKA. Not to mention the fact, as Viperion, he was eager to work with Chat the moment they met and has nothing but good working with him as a teammate. That’s a bonus.
Many fans of the show try to depict them as rivals for Marinette, but only Luka shows that interest in which Marinette doesn’t really accept because of her obsession with Adrien. To make Adrien ‘jealous’ is really out of character, but another topic I’ll cover.
Truthfully, it would be an interesting twist of all the girls pushed up against Adrien, he would turn around and go for the cute guitarist or starts talking about how cute the guy is! Tell me that Degrassi twist wouldn’t add some good drama.
Overall, the show demonstrates so far that most of the girls for Adrien doesn’t really possess healthy qualities for Adrien to have a good future. The boys give him a more comfortable understanding a gentle nature for a kid like Adrien. You could pair him up with Ivan or Max and Adrien would STILL have more chemistry than them. Note that he’s sheltered, and we have no clue off what other mannerism he was raised on or how truly strict Gabriel and Nathalie are. Hell, we don’t even know how it was like when Emilie was even around.
But for any relationship to work, friendship before romance. Slow but steady at the pace both parties can go. People including Adrien, need that.
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Literally stop, we get it you don’t like salt then don’t read it (this was going to be a comment left for someone but the post got deleted so here ya go, don’t bully other for liking salt it’s not okay)
The thing about that is Alya blindly believes Lila and posts interviews with her without fact checking, she shouldn’t have believed either without facts and what she posted could have ruined someone’s life. Jagged Stone is an adult and claiming he wrote a song for a MINOR that no one know about is honestly creepy.
 On the Adrien part and Marinette part I agree with that however I do have a few things to add. Throwing a tamper tantrum while Paris is flooded and people probably died is horrible, I get that he might have felt bad however it wasn’t Marinette’s choice to not reveal the secret and he shouldn’t have blackmailed them (I will quit being Chat Noir if you don’t stop). 
Another thing, him being mad at ladybug because she didn’t show up at a ‘date’ she said she might not show up and then salting about it while there’s an akuma running around is stupid and shows bad behavior. He also doesn’t respect that Ladybug says she has no romantic feeling for him. Also he should have told Ladybug Lila tried to kill her as it’s was dangerous and she might try it again.
Also him guilt tripping Marinette to not feel happy after Chloe who is her BULLY leaves is something I honestly find really manipulative. Him lying about dating ladybug to the statue designer is also really disgusting. The thing I’m mad at most is that Thomas says Adrien is perfect and etc.
About Mari she’s constantly treated as a joke by her clumsiness and actions. The statue kissing is honestly something you can expect from a teenage girl (basically kissing a photo or something, she didn’t realize it was the real Adrien). Her creepy behavior however is not okay. Although the show punishes Marinette over and over again for things that are not her fault. Her stealing his phone and etc is absolutely stalkerish however it’s also supported by the characters in the show.
About the schedule you can see it’s not only for Adrien but for everyone in her class. The photos in her room look to be magazine photos which are very easy to find. About confronting Lila, yes she was jealous but she was also pissed that she was using her name to get popular. A good thing about Marinette is that she improves over time and learns (helping Adrien with Kagami) while Adrien does not. The show continuously makes Marinette apologize for things that aren’t her fault (like reverser, she had no idea Nathaniel would believe Marc’s writing was by Ladybug but she still apologized).
Also yes people write salt, I don’t want to be mean but get over it. They’re pissed at what’s happening and you keep salting Marinette as well. If you don’t like something don’t read it.
Also do not mistake me as I can easily see Marinette’s faults as well however she gets punished enough in the show while Adrien does not. Don’t ignore Adrien’s wrongdoings and act like he’s perfect, he’s not. Overall leave people alone, I personally like reading salt as they write very amazing topics most of the time (there are absolutely disgusting ones that I just don’t read).
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