Saw blorbos yay!! For Lawrence and Mandy
1. Scars (not counting the scars from their games)
2. 3 comfort items
3. A memory they’ve blocked out (again maybe smth pre-games cause these guys need therapy so badly)
Alright, first for Lawrence
1. Scars:
I see Lawrence having a couple of normal scars from running around as a kid and accidentally throwing himself into bushes when he was playing too hard. His deepest scar though is the gash on his shoulder that he got when he fell out of a tree as a teenager
2. 3 Comfort Items
One of Diana's socks he kept after she outgrew it when she was a toddler. He likes to run his fingers over it at his desk in the workshop.
A retractable fountain pen that Amanda got for him after he became an apprentice. Uses it more at the hospital than anywhere else.
His wedding ring. Even though him and Alison are done it makes a useful distraction when he's looking over blueprints for traps that don't make sense to him. When he plays with the ring it clears his mind enough that he can see John's visions for the games.
3. A Memory that he's blocked out
Probably his first date with Alison. He was still a med student at the time and horribly rusty at flirting that he thought it better just to forget that night in its entirety and just say that their second date was their real first date.
Amanda:
Scars:
Other than the self-harm scars, I think Amanda would have a leftover mark on the palm of her hand from when she was little and tried to make dinner for herself when she was about six and her dad wouldn't make her anything. It's not noticeable unless you're really up in her business but there's a slight sheen over that piece of skin compared to the rest of her hand.
2. 3 Comfort Items
A piece of her favorite stuffed animal from her childhood. She threw the animal away years ago but cut off a piece of that fabric before fully getting rid of it. She hides it under her pillow in the warehouse but has mostly forgotten about it by the time Saw 3 rolls around.
A trophy from Hoffman. It says 'soccer star' on it because he lifted it from a McDonald's after a kids soccer team left and the kid forgot his trophy. He threw it in Amanda's space thinking she wouldn't keep it, but she's held onto it because it feels like something an older brother would give his sister as a joke.
A fridge magnet that John bought for her on their way back to the States after the events of Saw X. It won't replace Gabriela but hey, it's fun to fidget with!
3. A Memory She's Blocked Out
The day her dreams were shattered. She was playing as a princess in her bedroom only for her dad to tell her to "grow up" and that doing "pansy shit like that will get you beat up at school". She was no older than ten when he said that to her.
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what if we were two social outcasts (one running away from a background of wealth without love and one with a tumultuous childhood paving the way for years of continued abuse) and we end up in the same profession. what if we were trying to find ourselves but we found each other. what if we’re both victims of the societies we were raised in. and we’re both grappling with the confines of masculinity. and our stories are emotionally devastating for our audience as they ask questions about death and rebirth and the choice between what we want and what we’re told we deserve. what if we sat by a campfire and had conversation.
okay now what if our story was a 1991 indie film about street hustlers, but what if it was a 2022 tv show about pirates
[ID 1: the campfire scene from My Own Private Idaho. Scott (played by Keanu Reeves) is looking at Mike (played by River Phoenix) who is sitting a distance away, curled in on himself. end ID]
[ID 2: the campfire scene from Our Flag Means Death. Stede (played by Rhys Darby) lovingly helps Ed (played by Taika Waititi) get something out of his beard. end ID]
ahaha what if i cried what if i can’t be normal about this
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No because you're so right and you should say it. Billy was not a bully, and if that's what he was trying to be then he was doing a shit job at it because Billy's bullying tactics in season 2 are lame as fuck. Calling a guy pretty boy? Patting him on the back and telling him to plan his feet? What the fuck, how is that bullying?
ONG IM TIRED OF THIS NARRATIVE.
Billy gets called a slur, and has flirted with Steve... how is that homophobic?
I'm convinced viewers have brains the size of fucking salt. Everything he does has a reason behind it. He genuinely doesn't seem to care much about really being "the king". Imo he's a TEENAGE BOY. He's acting out for attention, and he can get away with shit that Neil would never let slide.
Public high schools are filled with Billy Hargroves. Middle schools, too.
The way the Duffers wrote him, made the whole racist narrative up for interpretation. Like... wtf? THESE ARE YOUR CHARACTERS.
What people choose not to understand (you know what they're just stupid) is that Billy gets punished for whatever Max does. Imo Billy is justified in being angry. The abuse escalates because Max causes trouble for him. With Neil around they could never be real siblings.
The moment the duffers brought in serious social issues like racism and abuse, they were never going to expand on it. For them it is only an aesthetic. This is a Sci fic show that is just a bunch of 80s references sewn together- and shittily I might add.
Billy was never as bad as they wanted him to be- and that was because of Dacre, for sure.
I love how people are realizing the duffers are shitty writers NOW. But when it's to do with Billy, it's "the characters fault", not the writers?
TEENAGE BOYS ARE ASSHOLES. THAT IS A FACT.
But characters like Steve are treated like fucking angels? Even if Billy was racist, he was still a kid. People change. Apply the whole "Steve became less of a homophobic dick" to Billy. Or just... do one better... and shut the fuck up 😊I
THAT IS WHY IT IS CALLED CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT. WHICH IS NOT DEATH. IT REQUIRES TIME. IN SEASON 2 STEVE GOT A REDEMPTION ARC OR WHATEVER- SEASON 2- 💀💀💀💀🤌🤌🤌🤌
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Headcanons for The Grim Adventures of Billy and Mandy
Does anyone have any?
Mine are:
× Harold is Hispanic.
× Billy speaks some Spanish and taught Nergal Jr. some words (they have some inside jokes in spanish)
× Nergal wants to learn spanish but is having a hard time learning from Harold
× Nergal also spends some time over at Billys house during the summer ☀️ so the family keeps up with each other during that time. Nergal talks about the underworld and how that's going, and Billys family talks about day to day life. (It's fun :)
× Grim is more of a cat person. He likes dogs, but only the little dogs (because his dog chewed on his bones in one episode, so he'd rather deal with smaller dogs)
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Hey, I also have an Ikea shark :) I washed mine a month ago in the bathtub with some clothes detergent. You beat it up in the bathtub to make sure the detergent gets everywhere, then let it soak for a minimum of 20 minutes. Squeeze it as much as you can and let it air dry (better under the sun!) But don't put it in the drier. I heard that messes them up.
hi!!! mine isn't from ikea; my gf actually got him at a zoo gift shop for me, but i assume it's the same difference??
i've heard that about the dryer as well. sadly, i've just recently moved to ireland, so sun is um. hard to come by :( and my room window doesn't oper; i wonder if it drying in my room for 3 days maybe made it smell weird?? i'm considering just hanging it outside anyway despite the frequent rain??
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FIRST SHIP TO POP INTO YOUR MIND NAOW. please l l]
YIPPEE WAHOO YEEHAW WOOHOO
ok now let me fuckign explain before we're hunted down for sport, -Eddie
ok us 3 did this together. Red is me blue is steve yellow is billy.
SO. first off: We Are Fully Aware. Aware of What? Yes. Second off: Yes it's a crack ship of ours that we think collectively is hilarious but also, and this is point three: as a system our plurality effects a lot of shit we interact with especially fandom wise and Well. Gestures to myself and my two boyfriends in-sys. Thus why we ship it. Because... We three are dating in-sys. Sooooo…
ANYWAYS! all our answers pertain to the ship irt Source Selves and not our Fictive Selves. If we answered this for Ourselves n not source selves then the answers would be VERY FUCKING DIFFERENT JDJSjejajdjd. If that makes sense!! Words hard as always </3
I COULD RAMBLE MORE BUT i shall not. tl;dr: This ship is So funny to me. It's Such a stupid ship. It is godawful. I love it. I also lov my bfs <3 -Eddie
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In one of your last answers, you said “series reboots are usually pretty gross and sad”, and I was wondering if you could expand on that? Assuming “reboot” covers any kind of continuation of a currently cancelled or finished show (and maybe that’s the wrong assumption!), from the outside looking in it feels like a pretty mixed bag. On one hand, if I love XYZ Show, it’s cool that I get more stories with these characters and another chance to support XYZ Show and its creators. On the other, it definitely feels like a lot of ideas can only get funding if they’re tied to something already, meaning creatives are having to now tie whatever cool idea they have to some reboot/relaunch/retread, which can feel pretty disheartening if you don’t want to do a reboot/relaunch/retread. Is that a similar feeling from your side of the industry?
Thank you so much for all your answers and insight!
Usually reboots and spin-offs are just cash grabs. It happens a lot in animation. In fact, I would argue that the entire industry is just one big cash grab now. In the 80s, everyone complained that cartoons were just half-hour commercials for toys. And they were right. And we're right back there, but now that you can't legally push toys all day, it's just general "IP". Mugs, posters, more spinoffs, whatever.
I was offered three show running gigs over the pandemic. All reboots that I would consider unwise to pursue because they were "of a different time" and didn't (in my opinion) have anything more to say. Two of them were properties created by notorious sex pests, so there's also that. The animation industry loves to prop up its sex pests.
I turned all of them down, partially because I didn't respect the original creators but also because none of them had anything going for them except just being "more of the same".
I don't think any of those projects survived the intervening years, so in retrospect I maybe should've taken the job. I'd probably feel a bit gross, but at least I'd have floors in my house.
The entertainment industry is in a bad spot. The whole thing. I've had I don't know how many pitch meetings in the last few years, and they all start the same way:
"Hey! Before we start, we just want to let you know that we're not actively producing anything right now. We think maybe soon, but we won't be picking anything up today..."
And then later:
"The little we are doing is IP, so if you have a new take on our IP or a new IP you're connected to that you can bring in, that'd be great."
I always wanted to make original stuff. There came a time when I'd had my fill of Billy & Mandy and wanted to do something else new and original. That never manifested, and I was constantly being offered IP to produce. I turned too many of those down, maybe, before deciding that it was probably better that I run the IPs that mean something to me rather than having some hack do it.
But now those jobs have all gone to celebrities and fallen live-action writers, who are also slowly being eaten by the system. WB was hot for Scooby stuff a few years back, so I pitched some ideas. A few of them were turned down for being "off-brand" in a variety of ways. WB has now made (I think) all of those off-brand shows (or something close) with celebrity show runners.
I was going through a whole Midlife Impostor Syndrome thing recently where I was wondering if maybe I don't just suck. Like, it's weird that for a couple of decades I'd have people calling me trying to get me to run shows, and now nobody will call me back about the possibility of a design job.
Talking to some friends and realizing that they were in a similar situation helped me feel like I wasn't alone. That was nice. Talking to some of the most talented colleagues in my industry made me made me realize that those people weren't getting jobs either. That was unnerving. Talking to complete strangers in other parts of the entertainment industry now has me thinking that the whole house of cards is coming down. That's real concerning, yo.
It's hard not to think it's purposeful, when deranged billionaires own the entirety of our media and want to shape a society where they can't be criticized. We're letting wealthy tech bros firebomb the very heart of our culture, and it's weird that no one is talking about it. Because (for now) we still have that capability.
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