That comment was so true, I was just thinking the same way. Old bylers were more open to criticizing the show's bad aspects and writing choices instead od trying to bend the whole thing to come up with excuses and explanations. Nowadays when you criticize a writing choice or something done by the Duffers you automatically get accused as if you've just committed a crime because how dare you think the Duffers aren't perfect genius writers that put everything intentionally without any mistake.
yeah! nowadays, in this corner, criticism is seen as a bad thing that you would never do to something you enjoy, and it's like... huh? it's okay to not enjoy something 100%. the duffers and co are not infallible and people don't have to like every decision they've ever made. that shouldn't even be something that someone on the internet has to say—existing as a human being in the world should've taught everyone that back when they were a baby.
even beyond that, as others have mentioned in other conversations, you can understand someone else's viewpoint just fine and still not feel as though there's enough relevant evidence to back it up, and feel hesitant because of how the duffers have consistently handled other plots.
like, personally... i struggle to be one of those #believers, because of how present the show's racism is in my mind. also, season three and season four are right there, alongside the show's misogyny and classism, too. and don't forget the little inconsistencies and anachronisms either! there's A Lot that i don't like and that i feel could've been corrected or reworked more effectively had they had a more diverse writing room or consulted others during the writing process. i like the general direction of the show, but there are a lot of details or ways they went about it where i'm like ://// man..
and.... controversial perhaps... but i feel that behavior is especially rampant in the byIer fandom and it manifests as the fanon that we can't seem to shake off.
mike does pay acute attention to will in some ways, but he's not the obvious lovesick, clingy, forever doting, golden retriever bf that people make him out to be [shout out to s2 mike tho he was built different 💔]. that fanon!mike is fans overcompensating for canon mike's behavior and presentation, which honestly has not been that fucking great as of late, purposely because he can't balance having both will and el in his life, among other mike-specific reasons, and because the duffers changed the way they wrote him post-s2. he does care about and love will, but not like many fans suggest, at least not yet.
but if you say that around here, you're seen as a freak weirdo mike hater talking about some ooc mike even though the show is right there and i could point to the 9384038049 times that mike forgot about will, brushed him off, was mean to him, or explicitly chose someone else over him. purposely! of his own volition!
and it also shows in how they babygirlified him, even though mike doesn't act like or look like that at all in the show, nor has he ever been described that way by anyone, whether in-universe or by the people that bring him to life.
And Don't Even Get Me Started On Will. Zon't.........
they had to recreate these new characters with mike and will's names and faces, because they didn't like what was on the screen. simple as that. but will they ever admit it? lmao.
as a fan of the show, and a fan of these characters and the stories they're representing, it's really weird to witness. there has been a distinct shift in the way in-fandom bylers talk about byler and the show and it started post-s2 when things started happening that they felt they had to correct. if they want to engage with the material in a way that best suits their tastes, fine. whatever. literally everyone does that. but to insist that the things that they say that go directly against canon or don't even exist within it .... are canon? and that everyone else using direct lines from the text are the ones projecting or twisting it or otherwise not appreciating the material? i have to laugh.
it's the same with other serious criticisms. if they can't create something to justify it, then they just brush you off as a hater because that's easier than acknowledging that maybe their precious bloated ensemble show isn't entirely perfect.
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okay not story related but. how do the horses work
THANK YOU CROW ‼️ for asking <3 hehe i love talking game mechanics and like. details in general dw
so! horses are an important part of this game. to quote my best friend and the biggest horse + horsegame fan i know (gabe @porthavens):
it's not a true "horse sim", in that taking care of horses isnt a major gameplay mechanic with significant impacts. but there are MANY different kinds of horses with different stat levels, and you can tame wild horses OR buy horses from stables, and you can pet+feed+clean your horse, and you can form a bond with your horse by earning their trust. IMPORTANT Is that you can also name them and style their mane/tail differently.
now forgive me as i go into more detail because im allergic to simple answers:
what he said honestly got the basics i think. you feed your horse food or give it medicine to heal it/help it replenish energy, brush it to keep it clean, you have the choice of bringing hay to them at camp, you can use them to hunt or as transportation. etc. in general theyre really useful!! theyre well implemented in the game and thats important imo considering the time period its set in + who the main characters are.
(and thats not even touching how theres like. honestly so much detail put into each breed having a distinct body type + the coat colors and tail dynamics like theyre honestly just so well animated. and horses are notoriously difficult to animate. but they feel real, down to how their coats ripple)
i feel like RDR2 especially handles the horse as not only a mechanic or a vehicle for the player but also like... as a way of furthering characterization + humanizing the characters.
each of the main characters in the gang have their own horse that stays with them, or doesnt, throughout the game. its apart of their personality + identity. something important to know is that in the genre of westerns theres a visual motif with white hats, black hats, and similarly with black horses + white horses. it usually is as cut and dry as "bad buy wears black + has black horse, good guy has white hat and horse" and we dont have time to unpack that but it DOES mean that when we are introduced to certain characters its important to look at whats close to their identity and see
dutch van der linde, the leader, + father figure to the main characters, as long as an antagonist, has a black hat, but the most unique white horse. on the contrast, micah bell, the true antagonist of rdr2, has a black horse and white hat.
^ horse and hat spiel aside its about how each character is talked about in relation to their horse. dutch's horse, the count, looks more like an aristocrats pet. baylock, micah's horse, looks starved and bleeding later on in the game. john and arthur can talk to their horses and hum on horseback and call them petnames. each horse has a personality that informs the characters story yk.
lastly its like...... you do grow attached to your horses that You get. i had a grullo dun mustang named merlin (yk. arthur and merlin. arthur gets compared to the legend by jack his nephew) and i adored her. i also watched her die as arthur thanked her. its like. its about how the horses are more than a game mechanic but also more than just a narrative device. perfect blend
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˖⁺。˚⋆˙still not dating | LS18˖⁺。˚⋆˙
pairing: lance stroll x alonso!driver!reader y/n (she/her)
genre: social media au
warnings: none jus fluff!!
summary: in which your rookie season as an f1 driver holds many surprises
a/n: omgg the second time i've written driver!reader coz i fear i suck at it but i'll always do whatever u guys ask of me tbh. 🙏
request!!!: lance x alonso!reader, where fernando is her dad and he just retired and she is lance’s new teammate at aston martin and they fall in love during her first season and are super cute? Kinda friends to lovers vibes
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fc: daisy edgar jones
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user1 CONGRATULATIONS QUEEN
user2 oh thts my girl FOR REAL
user3 congrats 🥹🥹🥹🥹
user4 she's only got it coz of her dad 💀
user5 oh c'mon her credentials speak for themselves.
user6 jus u wait till nxt season
user7 aston marton nepotism team 🙄
user8 fr losing all credibility a bit
user9 BE SOOOO FOR FREAKING REAL RN
user10 about to go to war defending y/n
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lance_stroll congratulations again! my favourite alonso!
fernandoalo_oficial watch your back. also flirting with my daughter where i can see it? bold move
lance_stroll excuse me?!
fernandoalo_oficial you're excused.
ynalonso PLEASEEEEE HAHAHAHA
lance_stroll for the record i wasnt flirting
user11 HAHAHAHA
user12 yea right
user13 he's so flirting
user14 ynlance dream team oh it's happening
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estebanocon congratulations y/n! cant wait to celebrate with you tonight!!
ynalonso tysm estie 🫶🫶
mickschumacher CONGRATULATIONSSSSS
ynalonso ahhh!!!! thank you!!!
pierregasly congrats! see you soon
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alex_albon SO so deserved!!!
ynalonso 🥹🥹🥹
francisca.cgomes beautiful angel cant wait to see you beating pierre on the track next season
ynalonso cant wait to see YOU in the aston martin garage 👀
francisca.cgomes oh stop it you!!!!
schecoperez congratulations !
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landonorris well done 👏
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maxverstappen1 so excited to have you on track y/n!
ynalonso ahh such an honour to race alongside (way way behind) you!
maxverstappen1 oh im sure i'll see you up on the podium very soon
ynalonso 🥹
time skip 💚
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landonorris are you dating her mate?
lance_stroll what?? no just friends
landonorris oh my bad 👍
user15 AHHH ynlance crumbs
user16 they r so srs to meee
user17 jus date already.
user18 baby y/nnn
user19 love her sm
mickschumacher aww you guys are cute!
lance_stroll ? we're friends
mickschumacher yea that's what i mean! haha
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ynalonso im jus having the best time
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user20 oh i love her
user21 fav driver for a reasonnnn
user22 PODIUM IN THE NEXT RACE
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user23 her liking....and the next gp is barcelona too
user24 SHE'S COOKINGGG
user25 proving the haters wrong every single dayyy
yourbff MY GIRLLLL
ynalonso im coming home babyyy!!
yourbff iktr 🙂↕️🙂↕️🙂↕️🙂↕️🙂↕️
fernandoalo_oficial so proud of you 💚
ynalonso 🥹🥹🥹
user26 AHHH THEY R SO SRS TO MEEE
lance_stroll still waiting for you to catch me up 👀
ynalonso oh jus you wait. we'll be on MY turf soon!
lance_stroll cant wait 😎
fernandoalo_oficial lance you are like the children in school teasing the girl because you like her!
ynalonso papa please😭😭😭
user27 SCREAM
user28 read him for filth oh my god
user29 GET HIM AGAIN FOR MEEE NANDO
user30 no one talking about how the third pic is so bf vibes?
yourbff 📍 barcelona
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yourbff my favourite event of the year; spanish grand prix!! 🇪🇸
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user31 omgg so cute
user32 love their friendship
user33 always love y/bff/n's annual f1 posttt
user34 aww y/bff/n in the aston martin merch
yourbff always supporting my girl
ynalonso 🥹💚
user35 STOPP AWW
carlossainz55 🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸
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user36 he's so real
lance_stroll stop hogging her
yourbff SAYS YOU??? puta
ynalonso no arguing this weekend!!
yourbff he started it
lance_stroll im not trying to argue
fernandoalo_oficial another one for my theory......
lance_stroll WHAT NOW???
ynalonso make it stop 😭😭
user37 BAHAHAHAHA
user38 nando is killing me
user39 he ships them be fr 👀
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ynalonso STOPPP IM GONNA CRY AGAIN
yourbff girl i never stopped...
ynalonso 😭 love you soso much
fernandoalo_oficial 💚
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user41 THIS IS SOOOOO CUTE
user42 omg adorable
user43 girl im gonna cry
user44 i love y/n so much
user45 so deserved 🥹
francisca.cgomes omgg🥹🫶
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pierregasly YOUR p2?
lance_stroll what?
pierregasly what?
lance_stroll what?
pierregasly 💀
fernandoalo_oficial interesting...
yourbff RETURN HER TO ME AT ONCE
lance_stroll no
user46 YOURS?
user47 hello????
user48 AHHHHHHHHHHH
user49 ASK HER OUT ALREADY
landonorris still not dating her mate?
lance_stroll we are friends 😌
landonorris 😂
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fernandoalo_oficial be responsible please
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user50 oh to be a fly on the wallll
user51 WISH I WAS IN THEIR FRIEND GROUPPPP
user52 the shots omg so messy
francisca.cgomes miss you
ynalonso okay where are you come to the club right now
francisca.cgomes 😂 im on my way w alex
ynalonso SSVING YOU BOTH A SHOTTT
lance_stroll love you and congrats
ynalonso IM RIGHT HERE????
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user57 hii y/n 👀
user58 we saw the picssssss
user59 SPILL
francisca.cgomes courtesy of lance, i assume? 👀
ynalonso no comment
yourbff spill. the. beans.
ynalonso nothing to spill 😇
yourbff Y/N!!!
fernandoalo_oficial y/n have i seen images of you and lance kissing?
ynalonso nooo hahahh it's not me :)
fernandoalo_oficial are you sure?
lance_stroll 📍 barcelona
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lance_stroll definitely not one to forget
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user60 the first pic being srs & everything else cutesie ... y/n's impact!
user61 the last pic AHHHHHHHHHHHH
user62 the way he LOOKS at y/n!!!!!!
user63 he's in love.
user64 i jus know she's cheesing right back at him too 😭
pierregasly love seeing us both in the points 😍
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fernandoalo_oficial have you spoken to my daughter yet??
ynalonso ...about???
fernandoalo_oficial so, no
lance_stroll 😭 let me live
user65 nando is cooking????
user66 oh he's playing puppet master for sure
estebanocon next time we'll be seeing you on the podium?
lance_stroll yes, alongside you
estebanocon oh, i fear we're dreaming too hard
lance_stroll 😂😂😂
landonorris ...still not dating her mate?
lance_stroll lando. please.
user67 noo let him speak
user68 STILL? NOT? DATING?
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yourbff oh, i see you
ynalonso hm? 😇
yourbff dont play dumb
francisca.cgomes so you had the conversation?
ynalonso what? :)
francisca.cgomes C'MON
alexandrasaintmleux posting this before spilling the deets to us? okay!!
ynalonso im just a girl
lilymhe well congrats 😎
ynalonso 🥹
user69 WE SEE YOU.
user70 ynlance nation rise
user71 SO THE PIC WAS REALLY U???
user72 you dont need to hard launch girl we get it
fernandoalo_oficial you thought you could trick me?
ynalonso no papa what are you talking about? 😵💫
time skip 💚
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user74 oh hello?
user75 this is very sus
user76 to me this is a sign
user77 close enough. ynlance confirmed
user78 THIS IS SO CUTE
user79 i love aston martin 2025
pierregasly just hard launch already what are you waiting for
lance_stroll 😵💫
landonorris still not dating her mate?
lance_stroll get a job!!
fernandoalo_oficial your love for her is greater than mine i think everybody should know this by now
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ynalonso with the end of my rookie season i want to thank u all the for the immense support 🥹 not only from the fans but from my father, my team, my best friends and my teammate and boyfriend lance! here's to another great season at aston martin.. 😉 see you next year.
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user80 wait a second
user81 ok there's a lot to unpack here
user82 TEAMMATE AND BOYFRIEND????!?!??!
user83 ANOTHER season!!!! she's renewed her contract w aston??? 🎉🎉🎉
user84 SOOO PROUD
pierregasly you smashed it! honoured to race with you
ynalonso right back at you!
estebanocon a season most rookies could only dream of
ynalonso oh stop!!!!!! 🥹
fernandoalo_oficial beyond proud of you, te amo 💚
ynalonso !!!!! te amo papa
user85 oh how i love them.
yourbff oh thank god
ynalonso aww thanks love you too xx
yourbff be fr. im so proud of you when i think about it too much i start crying
ynalonso STOPPP🥹🥹🥹🥹
francisca.cgomes FINALLY
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lilymhe love you
ynalonso love you sm
alexandrasaintmleux we are all cheering (im so proud of you)
ynalonso love u love u love u
user87 LOVE THE WAGSSS
lance_stroll that's my girl 💚 amazing season, here's to many many more. i love you
ynalonso 🥹🥹 love you so so much thank you for being so amazing!!!
lance_stroll that's all you
user88 "THAT'S MY GIRL"??? IM MELTING
landonorris ohh so he was dating you the whole time?
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THE END 💚
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