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episode 7 commentary - Mesmerised
swearing, spoilers for both the show and the books, unless you're a nerd like me (and can recognise what I'm ranting about) there is absolutely zero context some of this so you've just gotta figure that out
omg Georgie 🥺 I always feel really bad when they're like "we could draw straws?" and he just accepts his fate :(
"Jesus you're children" hits so hard, because like... they are, but in the show they're more like 15/16/17 ish. But then this guy takes half a look at them and immediately says that they're kids like they're meant to be in the books and they shouldn't be in Winkman's place because they're children and now I'm just repeating myself I think but idk it just ughhhhh
I really wish Lucy had finished her little rant at lockwood about how "at the centre of lockwood and co is you, and at the centre of you is-" because there was a perfect opportunity to call him a hollow boy
lockwood go to therapy
omg Flo calling George Georgie
George getting more and more angry and antsy every second is breaking my heart
I love that even when he's trying to be undercover lockwood can't help but swagger around
lockwood and his flare for the dramatic (see what I did there), he really loves explosions doesn't he (just like his wife)
lockwood's hair after his hood gets yanked off is hilarious
winkman is an arsehole and he deserves everything that's coming to him
omg lockwood honey just breathe you'll be okay I'll give you a big hug I promise
why can't someone hold me the way lockwood and Lucy hold each other when they're panicky and trying to escape winkman
Georgie no
"You're that tosser with the golden blade" yes he is luce
don't fucking call him Anthony you prick
lockwood stop throwing things you're not going to hit anyone with them
I love that we get to see lockwood properly fighting because everyone always talks about his sword fighting skills and now we can see how flashy he really is
I also love that Lucy just whacks golden blade with a bit of wood to protect her husband
I swear to god if golden blade doesn't stop punching lockwood imma throw hands more than Lucy
lockwood stop jumping off of things you're not a cat with nine lives
Flo I love you for being Georgie's friend but why did you cycle away
how come nobody in the furnaces reception area saw George
disappointed in the lack of see-throughness of lockwood's shirt after they climb out of the thames
now he's just a sad puppy covered in water after his wife pushed him when he thought he might get a kiss
Georgie no
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Sir Rupert: Why is Marissa crying on the floor? Winkman: She took one of those 'what person are you?' quizzes Sir Rupert: And? Winkman: She got Quill Kipps
#incorrect quote#lockwood and co#source: unknown#marissa fittes#sir rupert gale#julius winkman#incorrectlockwoodandcoquote
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pen drawing for inktoberandco day 21- Winkman
yes it took a lot of ink lol
#lockwood and co#save lockwood and co#anthony lockwood#cameron chapman#lucy carlyle#ruby stokes#artwork#fanart#pen and ink#inktober#inktoberandco#winkman auction#height difference#locklyle
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Jonathan Stroud, writing TWS book: So when Lucy and Lockwood go to Winkman's store, they get kicked out when he realizes they're agents
Netflix adaptation: Okay, cool. But have you considered TORTURE and BLATANT SU*CIDAL IDEATION in the name of LOVE?
#i was pretty shocked watching that episode but im a whump fan so im not really complaining#lockwood and co#lockwood & co#lockwood and co netflix#netflix#anthony lockwood#lucy carlyle#locklyle#julius winkman#the whispering skull#jonathan stroud#cw torture#cw suicidality
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Winkman: *insulting Lucy while Lockwood is dying in her arms*
Lockwood: don't talk about her that way- Lucy, are you gonna let him talk to you that way?
Lucy, *almost hysterical*: Lockwood, we have mORE PRESSING CONCERNS-
#lockwood and co#anthony lockwood#locklyle#lucy carlyle#lockwood & co#i like to picture george is standing there very similarly to the “where's his slap”#this is not canon but it definitely happened lucy joan carlyle told me herself#george cubbins#george karim#julius winkman
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lav made a very important post on twitter today. no one knows what he went through at winkman’s. when lucy got up she probably didn’t realize he was sitting in an electrical chair and when they got out she didn’t ask. he didn’t tell. george asked what they’d been doing all night but lockwood didn’t tell him. he didn’t tell them.
no one knows he was tortured.
#lockwood#lockwood and co#lockwood and co netflix#lockwood & co#lockwood & co netflix#l&co. netflix#l&co#renew lockwood & co#save lockwood & co#cameron chapman#anthony lockwood#ben crompton#julius winkman#whump#lockwood whump#gif#gifs#lockwood gifs
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Watching the show after finishing the books gives me a new appreciation for some of the details they added.
The first time, for example, Penelope's "I'm a good listener" meant absolutely nothing but now I'm just sitting here screaming internally
#there are other things too obviously haha#like i love the nods the things they changed like lucy suggesting they go back to winkmans as customers#it really is a GOOD adaption despite all the stuff they changed#lockwood & co#l&co
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earlier today i was going insane in my uni's library while reading the hollow boy so here are some thoughts i had that were too long for a post
i've seen the "come off it, you know i'd die for you" line floating around tumblr ever since i finished the show but nothing could've prepared me for the context in which lockwood says that. he nearly did!! earlier in the book when he jumps to save her life amd ends up nearly fracturing his skull!! and then again he risked his life in the department store, she was thrown off into an underground abandoned prison with multiple spirits he goes after her!!
oh and the fact that the fetch pretended to be lockwood??? and lucy thought he'd died??? i knew was probably alive and i still had my heart beating fast as fuck
ALSO
the fucking title of the book. just last week i was wondering what "the hollow boy" might be referring to and then in the scene with the fetch where lucy realizes it's not actually lockwood because the body of thing was hollow i thought "oh that's why" but then he fucking drops this???

i was actually going insane over this
ALSO ALSO

this?? i know that at some point lucy leaves the agency and i think i'm starting to figure out why/how and i am not liking where this is going
#thinking about the scene in the show where he practically begs winkman to kill him and leave lucy alone#knowing all of this#absolutely not prepared for the scene where lucy leaves#but on a more positive note lucy and holly are maybe possibly kinda getting along now??#lockwood and co#l&co
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Y’all look at this Lockwood and co picture I haven’t seen before:
I love them 😍

#im not wrong tho#this is literally Lockwood and co#like it’s so Lockwood and co coded#the villain is either Penelope or winkman#save lockwood & co#save lockwood and co#DEPRAC roll call#DEPRACrollcall#anthony lockwood#george karim#lucy carlyle#locklyle
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Her eyes fixed on the boy sitting across from her. “Well, Lockwood,” Lucy said coolly. “Neither of us have enough chips left. But it’s your turn. Now, I’ll give you an option. You can fold, or you can put the skull jar in, and I’ll show you my cards. Does that sound fair?”
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Lucy never ended up at Lockwood & Co. when she got to London. At a card game for independent operators, she meets the skull in the jar.
#honestly some of the most fun i’ve had writing fic#lockwood and co#lockwood & co#my fic#meet cute#lucy carlyle#the skull in the jar#anthony lockwood#george karim#flo bones#danny clough#jack carver#leopold winkman
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yk winksman? that bearded dude anyways like about his wife does she just walk around with a tazer? like she doesnt even say hi just BAM tazer ppl lmao
honestly power move (hehe power move hehe)
#lockwood and co#lockwood & co#winkman#can't remember his wife's name oops#was a bit busy watching lockwood to pay attention to her#mutuals#<3
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Barnes: If you got arrested what would be the charges?
Flo: Theft
George: Disturbing the peace
Winkman: Aggravated assault
Lockwood: Arson
Lucy: All of the above. In that order, probably
#incorrect quote#lockwood and co#source: unknown#lucy carlyle#george cubbins#anthony lockwood#julius winkman#inspector barnes#flo bones#incorrectlockwoodandcoquote
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Chapters: 1/? Fandom: Lockwood & Co. - Jonathan Stroud, Lockwood & Co. (TV) Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: Graphic Depictions Of Violence Relationships: Lucy Carlyle/Anthony Lockwood Characters: Lucy Carlyle, Anthony Lockwood, George Cubbins | George Karim, Quill Kipps, Julius Winkman Additional Tags: Alternate Universe - Mob, Alternate Universe - No Powers, as in no ghost, Enemies to Friends to Lovers, Enemies to Lovers, Fake/Pretend Relationship, this is so many cliches whoops, more tags to be added on later Summary:
Mob au where Lockwood's parents were powerful mob bosses in control of a powerful Mob known as Lockwood & co until they were betrayed and murdered, now Lockwood must get revenge and seize his family's power back.
#Finally finished the first chapter#anthony lockwood#locklye#locklyle#lockwood#lockwood and co fanfiction#lockwood and co#lockwood & co#L&co#L&co.#l&co. netflix#lucy carlyle#julius winkman#fanfics#fanfic writers#fanfic#fanfiction#my fics#writing#george cubbins#george karim#george karim/george cubbins#mob au#mafia au#enemies to soulmates#enemies to lovers
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It also makes me curious about what story the show intended for the Winkman's kid. In the book he's Julius 2.0, a big enforcer in training. Leo in the show is a lot creepier and unsettling. He'a younger, seems non verbal, he has a toy that Lucy gets Bad Vibes (TM) from. It would've been interesting to see what that was all set up for in Season 2 ... IF WE HAD ONE NETFLIX!
I know some people were unhappy with the change in the Lockwood & Co. TV series to make Joplin a woman instead of sticking to the books, but I actually think it was a brilliant choice because it gives a glimpse into another horrific yet entirely realistic reality of a society where children are thrust into roles not meant for them, roles meant for adults. A reality where a predatory adult woman spending a lot of time alone with a teenage boy wouldn't so much as raise an eyebrow, wouldn't merit more than a teasing "Oh, 'Pamela' now, is it?" from the boy's teenage friend. That Lockwood and Lucy didn't pick up on the fact that Joplin was preying on George (albeit for different reasons) makes even more sense in this context because I have to believe that that kind of behavior from the adults towards the front line soldiers that were the children had become a lot more normalized at that point.
#you're on my permanent shit list Netflix#lockwood and co#lockwood & co#my personal theory is winkman used his son to lure psychically talented kids into his crime ring#with all the dark shit that implies 😬#that's just my theory tho
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It's hilarious to me how much the second half of the show seemed to want Lockwood specifically to suffer. Three instances come to mind in particular: at Winkman's, at the auction, and the fight with Joplin.
Winkman's in the book: Lucy and Lockwood snoop around, get caught, get thrown out
Show: Lockwood gets ELECTRIC CHAIR TORTURED
The auction in the book: Lucy and Lockwood’s plan works fairly well. They still jump into the Thames, but all in all, it goes according to plan
Show: a DEPRAC agent with a family gets MURDERED and Lockwood has a PANIC ATTACK because he feels at fault
Fight with Joplin in the book: Lockwood has a few scrapes from the fight with the thugs, comes and saves Lucy, George, and Kipps. The gun doesn't go off.
Show: SHOOT HIM AND HOIST HIS COLLAPSED BODY UP THE CATAFALQUE
#lilac rambles#lilac goes to the movies#lockwood and co#anthony lockwood#like tbf they DO give him some cooler moments as well. the necklace scene is much sweeter and he gets to do the whole 'wanna ditch this#party with me. it's dead' thing and they generally let him be a bit more swoony for the teenagers watching#but the way they beat him to a bloody pulp on this show sjdjsnsn#queue-een's thief
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something that I noticed about the show adaptation of Lockwood and Co is that in a lot of instances where they changed something from the book, they acknowledged the original book scene through the show dialogue (i.e. Lucy saying they should just come back to winkman’s in the morning disguised as customers) and idk I thought that was nice
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