i think yosuke would have the most excruciating #Ally phase right after realizing he sucks and right before actually figuring out/accepting that he’s bi. all “i’m sorry women. and gay people.” white knighting all over the place. a bunch of apologies with a thick layer of smarmy performance over some genuine guilt.
in terms of reactions to his apologies, chie would probably be like “what? what’s wrong with you? who are you and what did you do with the real yosuke?” just full of skepticism, yukiko would be like “huh? oh it’s fine,” and then unintentionally say something so backhanded it cuts yosuke to his very soul, rise would probably accept his apology with the grace and playfulness of an idol which makes him way too happy.
i think the smarm would mostly fall away when apologizing to kanji cause he’d probably feel far guiltier about that than the misogyny. and i think cause kanji is just the kindest guy in the world, he’d think on it a moment then accept yosuke’s apology outright, which would distress yosuke immensely.
something like “wait, just like that? but i said all those awful things to you!” and kanji’d be like “yeah, you did. i’m not gonna say that all that was fine actually, but if i see my friend earnestly tryin to make amends, what kinda guy would i be to spit in your face?”
“but, but, you’d be completely right to! i was horrible to you! time and time again! how can you forgive me that easily?!”
“you’re acting like you don’t WANT me to, man. whaddaya want me to say? should i punch you so you can feel like you earned it?”
“yes! no! i don’t know! i just—! i could never forgive me if i were in your position.”
“yeah, well. i’m not you, am i.”
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I was going to save this until I reread Hollowpox, but that last ask reminded me that I should share this here, so I present:
Musings on Maud: Why is she considered so powerful, how does this affect her dynamic with Squall, and why is he so scared of her?
(Bonus: How can I connect it to Silverborn?)
Two disclaimers: I haven't reread Hollowpox in ages, so if there's anything that could prove or disprove stuff in this post, send it my way. Honestly send any discussion my way. I love discussing theories. Second, this was originally a reply to a Reddit comment on a post, to which you can find here. The comment discussed Maud being a signatory for a Squall safeguard, so since this comment is copied verbatim, it references that.
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If it’s not outright stated, it’s at least heavily implied that Squall helped create/build up the Republic. It’s only existed for about 90 years, and Squall has been exiled for about 100. He mentions in Hollowpox how he knows that Maud’s plan is to take over Nevermoor/The Free State, because the Republic took over the other states in the realm and he “helped them do it.” However, unless Maud is immortal and also 100 years old, she is not the one who started the Republic from the side of the Republic. Also, no clue how long it’s been around, but Squall Industries has likely been around for awhile as well (this is how he gets his connections and power in the Republic), with Squall just constantly grandfathering himself in with the vampire trick or something.
Interestingly, Squall says two things in this scene (Chapter 34 of Hollowpox) that stick out to me:
“I made the so-called Hollowpox,” he raised his voice above hers, “because I was asked to. Because I was compensated handsomely for it. And because when the most powerful person in the realm asks for a favour, even I don’t refuse.
And
“But you’re a Wundersmith.” Morrigan was utterly baffled. “Why can’t you just stop them if they’re such a problem? I don’t understand!”
“Do you THINK I HAVEN’T—“ Squall shouted, then cut himself off abruptly.
He also mentions how the Hollowpox was initially meant for the Republic, but Maud snuck in an infected otter across the border into Nevermoor— “That was never part of our deal.”
There’s definitely a business relationship between the two of them of likely consistent deals, one favor for another, quid pro quo. However, we also see that Squall can’t really go against her, something he seems to have tried before. Two chapters before this scene (Chapter 32), has this moment:
“Yes, shush. Maud said the Wintersea Party might help if there was a squid crow po.”
“Quid pro quo?”
“Right, one of those. She said they won’t do something for nothing, but if we could convince Prime Minister Steed to meet with her, just to have a conversation, then she would try to convince her party to share their cure.”
While it could be easily explained as part of her job, Maud seems to get most of her power and do things by extracting deals from other people. Maybe she’s knackless, or maybe she has some sort of connection to Puppeteering or a knack related to that. Not Mesmerism, but something that allows her to be persuasive, manipulative, convince people of things, and get them to do what she wants. A sort of parallel or companion to Squall’s connection with Puppeteering that we see in Wundersmith.
It’s interesting that when we first meet Maud, there is this exchange directly after she tells Mog that the Wintersea Republic would only agree to help the Free State if there was some sort of deal:
“But they’re your party,” Morrigan pointed out. “Aren’t you the one with the power?
Maud stiffened slightly and cast her a wary, calculating look.
And then soon later she says this:
“Even if I could persuade my party to do the right thing – and I’m not saying I won’t try – there’s no guarantee Steed and his government would come to the table.”
The whole exchange seems very manipulative, like, “oh, I’d LOVE to talk and get this figured out, but I can’t…” There’s a big focus on conversation. Maud is wary when Mog mentions power— she thinks she means a magical power, something secret that gives her an advantage, when really she just means politically— so I wonder if she was worried for a moment that Mog realized she had some sort of coercive power.
I wonder what exactly her power is that makes Squall so scared of her, and why it possibly makes it so that he can’t fight make and overthrow her. Aside from their business relationship, which allows Squall access to Wunder and being a Wundersmith, there’s this other layer as well.
As for safeguard: I don’t know if Maud would be a signatory for a Squall safeguard, as that seems to just be for Wunsoc students, but I think that whatever their deal is and whatever her power is allows her to keep him in check. Jess said that we will learn more about safeguards in Silverborn, and I think it would be interesting if Mog learns more about them from Squall instead of Jupiter— and maybe it does end up being similar to whatever he has going on with Maud, who knows! I don’t really have any safeguard theories myself, but I will keep an eye out for what you add to your comment.
A Silverborn “silver” side note: A “silver tongue” means that someone is persuasive when they speak….. perhaps this idea, theme, power, etc. will be expanded upon in the future 🤔
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time to think.
[ID: a short 4 panel comic. the first panel is of jon’s phone buzzing on a wooden desk. his phone is open to a text from martin. the first message, coming from martin is undecipherable. the second message is from jon and reads “ Ok. “. the third message is from martin and reads as “ Sick. “. the fourth and final text is from jon, reading “ K. “ there is text separate from the text messages that reads “ have you ever thought about a world where everything is the same... “ the next panel is of martin crying while sitting on his bed, staring out his window where the sun begins to rise. the window is barely open, his bed is fairly messy, and there are two peach cans behind him, one with a spoon inside of it the color palette is cold. the text on this panel reads “ except you don’t exist? “ the third panel is of tim, sasha, and jon. tim is drawn from the side and is laughing, with two red hearts coming from him. sasha is chatting with someone and looks happy. jon is writing something and looks tired. there are numerous tan cardboard boxes filled with statements surrounding him, the ones that are visible read “-0′s “, “ 00′s “, “ 90′s “, and “ 80′s “. the text on this panel reads “ everything functions perfectly without you... “ the fourth and final panel is of martin, looking expressionless standing on a foggy beach. the sky is a cloudy light blue and he is standing in front of four dead worms. the text reads “ ha, ha... the thought terrifies me. “]
[CD: martin is a tan, fat man with long, curly hair and hair on his arms. he is wearing a light gray shirt with a black square on it and striped blueish/teal pajama pants. he is wearing glasses in the final panel.]
[CD: tim is a white man with a mustache and a beard, as well as fairly short brown hair and a ponytail. he has blue earrings, and a scar just under his eye. he is wearing a light pink button up shirt with a red tie.]
[CD: jon is a brown, indian man with curly black hair, red glasses, a mustache, and stubble. he is wearing a very light yellow button up and a red tie. he is also wearing a light brown, striped coat.]
[CD: sasha is a black woman with yellow tinted glasses and kinky hair. her hair is mostly down aside from a very short ponytail. she is wearing a yellow/orange button up and a red tie.]
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