#zayn vs ot4

[twopoppies]

I’m a newer Larrie and pretty naive about the One Direction days because I didn’t listen to that type of music during the time they were a band. I started liking them individually and somehow found myself in this fandom. I guess my question is why do fans compare them constantly? They all came from the same band, they all seem to support each other at least privately if not publicly and appear to be pretty grateful to have had that same experience. I’ve seen some some solo Harry fans really attack Liam and Louis negatively with even comments on their looks. They constantly compare them to Harry and how they’re somehow losers because they don’t currently have the kind of commercial success as Harry. I’ve seen other solo fans also go after Harry for all kinds of reasons too, which is just so sad to see. Was it like this in the band too? Or has this all heightened because they all went solo? They all have different sounds, so why compare them? Am I missing something maybe?

Hi darling. Welcome to the hellhole fandom. So, no. When they were in the band it was actually unusual for anyone to ever voice a dislike for any one of them. People had their favorites, but publicly everyone supported everyone.

1DHQ started the fracture with the constant pushing of Harry vs the band. They really wanted to position Harry as being separate from (and better than) the other guys. Then Zayn left. There were people who were disappointed/angry with him or who no longer cared about his career, so we started having OT5 vs OT4 discourse. Then babygate started and we had the next fracture where people began to think maybe Larry broke up or Louis cheated on Harry. This was when people became houies (people who thought HL has dated, but now has broken up). Then that was followed by the hiatus and Harry/his team pushing the separation of Harry up a notch.

There were still many OT4 supporters until HS1 dropped and then there was a whole faction of people who flipped out over Harry’s lyrics and image not meeting their expectations and I think that was when houies really divided into harries and louies. There were still larries and antis. But now there were also louies who were only interested in Louis and “rad louies” (radical louies) who hated Harry and thought he was the reason Louis’ career was being “sabotaged”. And there were also harries — some of whom hated Louis because they thought he cheated on Harry and some also bought into the idea that Harry was just better than everyone else.

The fractured nature of our fandom really went into overdrive with the popularity of Fine Line and quarantine. Thousands and thousands of people entered the fandom and many had zero interest in 1D. Harry’s het image was in overdrive with Watermelon Sugar and the idea that Camille broke his heart (thus, being inspiration for the album). Holivia, DWD, As It Was, Harry’s House and Harry’s growing fame really made things worse in that department.

It seems as though a lot of Harry’s newest fans see any link back to 1D or his former bandmates as being a step backwards or as the other guys trying to “use” Harry as a way to promote themselves. And until recently, Harry spoke very little about the band and had very little public interaction with them, so unless you paid very close attention, it was easy to think he didn’t care much for or about them. I think many fans do this weird thing of needing their fave to be “the best” — as if that somehow reflects on them, as well. Like, the way many Harries went overboard making sure Lloyd won best tour photographer only because they didn’t want Louis’ photographer to win. It’s ridiculous.

Some of the hatred towards Harry is rooted in jealousy because people feel he had an unfair advantage over the others, thus having a success the others could have had just as well. Some of the hate is people feeling as though he has the power to do whatever he wants in terms of his image and stunts, so he must be fake and only cares about fame and money. Some of it is people buying into the idea that Harry ended the band because he wanted to be a star and he’s actively trying to ruin Louis’ career. There are a million different reasons people send hate his way.

As for comparing the five of them, as you say, they all have different sounds and none of them compete with each other. But I do think Sony very much wants Harry to be the Justin Timberlake and be the only one who reaches that huge level of success. And the media doesn’t help because many of the articles are written in a way that praises Harry and puts the others down (for no reason at all), so fans feel defensive and lash out. I tend to think Liam, Niall, Louis, and Harry all care about each other very much and are supportive of each other. And I really doubt they like the articles that do that nor would they support the nasty way some of the fans behave.

Sorry this was so long. And at the same time, this barely touched the surface, but I hope it helped a little.

[seasurfacefullofclouds1]

Pretty sure Perrie was the chosen one for little mix. That’s why she’s with Columbia. Sony’s predictable if nothing else.

Nothing if not completely predictable.

I wonder whether social media has given fans any power against the capitalist machine that tells us whom we must buy, support, love, and whether the needle is moving at all.

Even though Directioners strongly resisted the idea of 1D splitting and Harry going solo (going as far as writing essays about how Harry would never ever ever x 1000 go solo, that Irving and Jeff Azoff were here to save One Direction— giving them cute nicknames like Papa Azoff and Mochi Corden etc.— calling people who didn’t support all the boys “anti’s and cunts,” and then eventually morphing into Harries who called fans who disliked Harry’s solo career “Rads and cunts”)— still, eventually, month by month and year by year, Sony and capitalism won.

The same thing happened to Fifth Harmony.

The same thing is happening to Little Mix.

Sony picked out the guy we were supposed to support. Fans acquiesced.

However, the story doesn’t exactly end with the demise of OT4, while Harry bathes in cash as winner of the hunger games. Harry is still — as are they all — “from One Direction.”

OT4 aren’t gone. Louis and Niall are touring quite successfully. Zayn is making his fourth album.

The music industry’s power players— heads of big labels, the big managers, the CEOs of streaming services and radio companies— still have a stranglehold on the feed to consumers, but there are ways of circumventing it through social media. One can still tour without radio play, without payola. Big artists like Louis can lift up smaller artists, and fans will respond.

It’s all David vs. Goliath and industry is still winning by miles. Fans generally do act like lemmings. But occasionally, something good happens, and some good artists are heard, and get followings. Occasionally good music is made and the artist survives.

[dreamings-free]

It is interesting how Louis and Harry are the only one who kept working with people who worked with them during 1D.

well that really isn’t the case they all have people from back then they’re still working with..

apparently all 5 of them (or maybe not zayn but ot4 at least..) worked with Helene post 1D. and the TPI article seems to indicate that all of them are still working with Sarah’s Kitchen. Niall is still w Modest!, his 1D security guard Basil, and Ellie who was 1D’s stylist after Caroline left.. he’s also still writing with John and Julian.. he’s still represented by SJPR for press. Liam has the og 1D legend Paul Higgins! as his security/travel manager.. he still writes with Jamie Scott. there might be more I can’t remember..

so no I’m not seeing any such pattern of larry vs. the others tbh..

[bciwasinlove]

I think Matilda is about Harry bcus he didn't have good relationship with his dad growing up. But I don't think you can say Harry hasn't talked to Zayn since 2016 when for all we know they could talk in private. Going off your logic, he hasn't talked to Louis either.

Matilda I've always been like ?? about it being about himself bc he has a good relationship with his family but then I remember his dad who he doesn't talk to much. Tho even then it seems to be him talking to someone else throughout the song. I think he even said in an interview it was about someone he recently became friends with but I could be wrong.

About the zayn thing watch ANY interview from OT4 1D or solo H interview where H is asked about zayn [and also when lou gets asked about zayn] they have both gone from ☺️ to 😐 in 5 secs. With H, you can tell as soon as the topic becomes about zayn he gives odd the vibe of I don't want to talk about this. Lou, in an interview said "I hope he's doing ok but..." left unsaid was I don't wish to talk to him" and in another interview, "maybe will talk [again] when we are both less bitter about the situation. "

Their facial expressions and over all demeanor tells you he left on not the best terms with those two. This is to the point zayn fans have noticed and been upset at H and lou for their "negative vibes/answers" when it comes to zayn questions. Tho these fans weren't in the band the way L&H were so they really have no right to say L&H negative feelings towards zayn aren't justified but that's a whole other deal.

Compare how they act when zayn is brought up vs how lou for example acts when H gets brought up in an interview he's trying SOOO hard to keep a straight face and not smile/blush and essentially give out heart eyes there's a huge difference. As of late it does seem lou might be willing to talk to Zayn again with the random IG likes but idk about H he seems like the kind of person who doesn't easily forgive if you wrong do him AND in this case if you wrong do his lover it's definitely good bye.

Overall just don't see how with their reaction anytime Zayn is brought up would lead me to believe they talk often if at all. 🤷‍♀️

[perksofbeingasunflowerblog]

i literally cannot believe a song about a person of colour's experiences dealing with discrimination has been made about white men yet fucking again

[yaz-the-spaz]

I'm sure you've noticed me stalking your blog these past two days lol and I have another question if you dont mind. In my last ask you said you had some theories about zayn leaving ot4vszayn etc and I was wondering if you would expand upon them? If you dont want to write it all out, you can point me towards certain tags or other blogs if you want. I've been looking through your tags and have found a lot but I wanted to know if there is something that might be more like a timeline of sorts? Thx!!

hey there! here i finally am, so sorry to have kept you waiting but i hope this reply finds you well! :) 

now onto your questions…

so as far as a timelines @bakagamieru has some really good masterposts (x, x) that i would recommend checking out that really break things down play-by-play and i think most of which was compiled as it was happening so it’s a super great (and super detailed) documentation of all the shit that was going down during that period and all the narrative inconsistencies and stunts and back and forth, etc. they’re quite long though and, like i said, very detailed so i would recommend making sure you have plenty of time on your hands before you get sucked down a masterpost and link rabbit hole lol

and for more thoughts/theories of mine i would say check my zayn vs. ot4 tags (x, x - sorry there’s multiple iterations of this, apparently sometimes i had put a period after vs and sometimes i didn’t and now i have two tags smh at my own damn irritating inconsistency)

now onto the meat of your question, which is my current theories on zayn leaving/the zayn vs. ot4 narrative which i’m gonna put as a read more cause i’m not in the mood for ppl coming for me if they disagree, so read at your own risk folks…

so over the years there’s four main theories that i’ve personally gone back and forth over, which i’m gonna summarize quickly and try and explain as succinctly as i can my thoughts on each one and my opinion on the likelihood of it holding credence

disclaimer before i get into the explanations - a large part of my reasoning has to do with the caveat of there possibly being any kind of real tension or bad blood between zayn and louis in particular or any of the other boys. not saying that it was necessarily actually the case, just that it was a potential factor that went into my rationale and personal mental debate over the whole situation

he was coerced in some shape or form to leave and instead of fighting it, went along with it (maybe b/c he was already unhappy) - if there ever was actually any real animosity between him and louis (or harry/niall), this could explain why louis (or the others) might have hypothetically been mad at him b/c he might have felt that zayn could’ve/didn’t fight hard enough or went along with it too easily. but all that aside, even if there was no tension between him and louis/the boys, this option makes a lot of sense because given all he talked about going through in the band (depression, the e.d., too much pressure, not having control or being able to do what he wanted, the intense and rampant closeting putting a strain on his relationship, etc.) it’s not hard to see how he might’ve felt this was the best and only option

he was coerced into leaving, tried to fight it but couldn’t (and possibly even knew for a while that it was coming) - this wouldn’t explain why louis (or the others) might have hypothetically been mad at him but instead does put more credence into the fact that that was completely contrived and pushed by mgmt, and is also just as likely as #1 to me for pretty much the same reasons, not to mention it explains some shady things that happened in the months leading up to it re him not being there for certain promo obligations and appearances, etc.

he was coerced into leaving and had absolutely no choice about it and no way to fight it (i.e. didn’t necessarily want to leave but still knew for a while that it was coming) - pretty much same reasoning as above for this one, the only difference being that in this scenario he wouldn’t have wanted to leave at all which given all he went through i just don’t know if i believe that was wholly the case (more on this below) 

he chose to leave completely on his own - although it would explain any lingering animosity, this to me is the least likely in large part because i just have a hard time believing he would have chosen all on his own to just up and leave in the middle of a tour, not to mention been allowed to (esp given that they would’ve all known they had the hiatus coming up not long after and were about to go the countries where zayn specifically probably have had the biggest following/fan support - the middle east and north africa). but even if he hypothetically really did choose it all on its own it’s hard for me to believe that he would have even been able to leave like that unless there was some element of complacency from their mgmt that allowed it to happen and then you have to wonder why would they just let 1/5 of their biggest money maker walk away with no law suits, no drama, no nothing. it stinks of a larger plan at play which is what brings me back to the theories above. 

those are the main theories that i’ve gone back and forth on and i’ve never really been able to settle on just one, but to me given all that he expressed after leaving the most likely are the first two. i think all of the boys were pretty much done with how they were being treated, but zayn especially so, and it’s very easy for me to see how, when the opportunity arose he might have accepted because he felt it was the best way to save himself (as in his mental and physical health) and possibly also his relationship, though whether that acceptance was with a little (theory #1) or lot (theory #2) of initial opposition on his part, who’s to say. however, i definitely believe that, regardless of the details, there was some element of seeding and/or coercion from tptb, esp when considered in context with the shadiness of certain things, like him not being at certain events that he should’ve legally been obligated to be at in the months leading up to his leaving if no one but him knew he was planning on leaving. or him crying at the last concert that he performed at. those do not seem to be like the actions of a man who wanted to leave completely of his own accord and without any degree of finessing by mgmt to orchestrate it. when you’re a mega popstar in the biggest band in the world you don’t just not show up to something. that’s the type of situation where people will literally come to your house and drag you out of bed because you’re costing them a shit ton of money (like millions of dollars worth of money) by not being there. there’s tons of stories of rock stars where managers or someone from their team would literally go bang down a missing band member’s door, shove them in the shower to sober them up or help them whatever they needed to do, and drag their ass on stage to perform or to a press event or whatever. so you can bet that nothing less, if not the same, would be done for a missing member of a multi-billion-dollar-making band if need be. 

so yeah zayn just not showing up for promo events and performances in the months leading up to his leaving? not believable to me at all. the only conceivable reason for him not to have been there is if mgmt didn’t want him there and the only reason (at least that i can think of) for why you wouldn’t 1/5 of your biggest money-maker to be somewhere he should have been legally obligated to be (and that might’ve cost you hundreds of thousands of dollars for him not to be) is if he wasn’t legally obligated to be there because you were already in the process of phasing him out. ergo it was very likely planned. months in advance. and if it was planned months in advance with the help and orchestration of mgmt then that story of him just deciding to up and leave is complete bs and makes it even more likely to me that there was a level of coercion (because again if 1/5 of your biggest money maker suddenly says to you ‘i wanna leave’ you’re gonna do everything in your power to make him stay so you can keep making money, not help phase him out. unless of course you want him out, which they clearly did.)

one last thing i wanna add is a link to a post i had saved that i feel adds a bit of further credence to all this, it’s nothing concrete but it’s something that helped solidify some things for me when i was a giant ball of confusion over what to believe

anyway, i know that i rambled on forever and this definitely did not end up being as succinct or brief as i had hoped (though lbr when is anything i do ever), but i hope this at least sort of answered your questions and made some amount of sense/was not too incoherent and didn’t completely bore you to death lol

[icarusinterlude]

Print!Z says he's not friends with ot4 anymore, you talk trash about him like there's no tomorrow. Z release a song that is or isn't (depends on you) about his days with ot4, the song, mind you, that is very emotional, full of pain and melancholic, you start drama again and trash-talk again. You can kindly fuck off and leave him alone, if you CAN'T SAY ANYTHING NICE! You can hate him, whatever, your choice, but have in mind your fave's motto is 'treat people with kindness' and let me tell you, you're doing a shitty job, I bet he's proud

[cecelinchensworld]

2010:

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2020:

[pezzles17]

Zayn was not at louis' xfactor performance tho...just ot3

Umm actually he was. It was kept quiet because they didn’t want to make it abt OT5 reunion but actually focus on Louis and his mum.

But in case you need a refresher or just learn to open ur eyes.. here ya go:

http://pezzles17.tumblr.com/post/163269698692/im-high-key-hoping-this-is-hinting-at-progress

Have a lovely day! 😁✌🏽

[backonefish]

The proper way to handle a band member leaving: the Backstreet Boys edition

As with everything One Direction does, I often think back to my original loves. The more complicated and messy One Direction’s situation, the more I wonder, what would have been the proper way to handle things. 

Situation 1: AJ Going to Rehab

Half way through the Black and Blue tour (BSB’s 4th --- whoa coincidence) when they were at the height of fame, out of the blue, it was announced that AJ, was dealing with an addiction to drugs and alcohol. 

I unfortunately cannot find the original announcement made on TRL, but this video should suffice. BSB postponed their tour for 6 months so AJ could go to rehab. They talked about his addictions, were open and honest with the fans, and in every single interview, were respectful. I remember crying when I learned about this, and fell more in love with every one of the boys.

The 1D way: Contrast this to Zayn’s departure. The original statement said that Zayn was leaving for mental illness. Which is nothing to be ashamed of. Instead of being honest with the fans, taking some time to talk about why he was leaving, how it was going to impact the other four, we got some shitty ass FB post and everyone carried on like he was never there. We spent the next months of the tour scratching our heads going.... what. just. happened?

Situation 2: The Hiatus

After the Black and Blue tour, the boys were burnt out. Sounds familiar? They all took some time off to just relax and do their thing. They made no promises of returning. Nick and Brian both released solo music, AJ continued to work on his sobriety and I’m not sure what Kevin and Howie were doing at that time, but I can assure you, there was no shitting on the band members. 

The 1D way: Contrast this to how 1D left without touring their last album. To how they promised they’d be back, gave a time frame, and now aren’t sticking to it. To how, even in their hiatus, they’re managing to be shady and problematic. 

Situation 3: Kevin Leaving... and Subsequent Return

Once the Never Gone tour was done, Kevin decided he didn’t want to be in the band anymore, so he left. Well, he first finished the Never Gone tour, then he left. For the longest time, the BSB website featured a pair of empty sneakers to symbolise his place. Every single interview they did to promote Unbreakable, their first album as a quartet asked them about Kevin leaving. And in every single interview, they gave the same answer, they said it with respect and there was always love. Yes, the remaining four were unhappy with the situation, Nick mentioned a couple of times that it was easier without Kevin because they could experiment more, but it was never said with malice. It was never rude or derogatory or offensive to Kevin in any way.

Kevin stayed low, he did his own thing. Then their second album as a quartet, This is Us came out, and on this press junket, they weren’t asked about Kevin. Him leaving was no longer news. They carried on and if he was ever brought up, it was in a positive manner. 

Kevin went on to return 6 years later. They released another album, just finished a stint in Vegas, and ONE DAY ARE TO GRACE ME WITH NEW MUSIC. I digress. 

The 1D way: As already mentioned, why did Zayn rush to push out music even though he’d originally left to take some time away from the limelight? Why did he leave mid tour? Why did they know he was leaving, were fine with him from Nov 2014 to April 2015, and then suddenly decide wait we actually don’t like each other and the best place to air their grievances was through Twitter? Why, during the MITAM and now solo promo, aren’t they able to remain professionals and speak of him in a positive way? 

The point is, aside from their sexuality and a talent show, there are a lot of similarities between the two biggest boybands of their generation. These situations have occurred before and they’ve been handled well. This is how they should be handled. 

Don’t come at me saying Liam, Niall, Louis, and Harry hate Zayn and vice versa, because if that was truly the case, they wouldn’t constantly be talking about it. It’s sucky that so many people are hurt by Liam’s recent comments, that so many people are celebrating Liam’s recent comments, but when one of your band members has left, the media trained professional thing to do, is to not constantly talk about him in a negative light. 

Unless its some piss poor PR strategy, served to drive the narrative of Zayn vs. OT4 even further and make an already shady situation even shadier. 

[ohthathurt]

Hello. Okay maybe i'm sceptical but why Zayn unfollowed all boys if he fight? I don't this someone did that. So why?

Hi anon,

You’re saying this under the assumption that his social medias are all under his own control, which is completely false. We all know by now social media managers are a thing. Sponsors and product placements are a thing too. So why not influencers?

When they feel the need for that push, for that ‘extra drama’ they go for it and the result is some measly articles for a week and fandom drama for decades.

By now it’s happened so many times that we’ve just developed a thick skin to it (or at least I hope we have) and continue believing that nothing can or ever will break ot5.

And just for that I wanted to add this:

[twopoppies]

Hi I'm the zourry fallout anon (sending this again bc I had internet issues last time I tried) so I went through your links and I'm still confused. On one hand Zayn said Harry was his rock on the other he said they never talked then there's Harry shading him during mitam promo so what exactly happened between them? And I know this is the same "friendship ruined" narrative w Larry but what makes this one believable? Also does Zayn still talk to any of the other boys besides Larry?

So, I think the links I gave you weren’t the best... I thought they were a bit more comprehensive, but it was mainly about zarry as a possible romantic relationship. I know I’ve talked about all of this before, but I just can’t find it. I’ll try and be brief because I don’t have the energy or interest to really be meticulous.

I don’t really think there’s a particular “friendship ruined” narrative between Z and H. Zayn made that comment, H had those snarky moments (which I think were genuine), and that’s pretty much it. There’s been a push for Harry vs OT4/5 for ages, so if there’s more of a separation seen, it could be that. Additionally, whatever fallout Louis has with Z is going to factor in to how Harry feels. I think there was more of a narrative being pushed of Zayn was over one direction and had moved on, but his few in person interviewed seem to negate that.

I think Zayn was really struggling during that last couple of years with the band—his anxiety, his eating disorder, possible drug use etc. and all that puts a lot of pressure on the other boys to protect him, help him, carry his weight etc. Some people think that Louis, in particular, tried to help Zayn and that he put a lot of energy towards that (because that’s how Louis is as a friend). So it’s possible that Zayn leaving really hurt Louis on a different level (which then hurt Harry). There’s also the theory that a coming out for HL was a carrot that was dangled for them at the end of 2014 into the beginning of 2015, but Zayn leaving unexpectedly early was used as an excuse to rescind that offer. If that was true, it could be another reason to have some leftover anger towards him.

On top of all of this, we now know for sure that all of them were dealing with huge amounts of pressure, some with the addition of mental health issues, addiction etc. As much as they could have understood Zayn absolutely needed to leave, I’m sure there were angry and hurt feelings as well.

I hope that helps a little. I’m honestly not the best person to talk about this with, but maybe someone who’s more of an OT5 blog would have more insight?

[arandu-juky]

d nuevo yop jdksjs pero quería saber si tienes algún como análisis d la canción I won’t mind d zayn, tengo curiodas y es q por donde le vea la letra, no siento q sea a una mujer como muchos dicen ):

Hola Ate!!! Primero que nada empecemos desde el comienzo, recuerdas esa ridícula  “pelea” entre Louis, Zayn y Naugthy boy en el 2015?

solo para que sepas, esa pelea es mega falsa, fue todo planeado, creas o no en las narrativas esta fue una de ellas, todos dicen que Zayn filtro ¨I Won´t Mind¨ pero yo no creo eso, yo creo que la supuesta pelea Zouis fue una manera de ganar atención para que así Zayn pueda quitar su música ya con el público teniendo un ojo puesto en él. :3

Creo que la pelea de Twitter entre Naughty Boy y Louis se estableció para llamar la atención sobre la caída y, dado que eso se incorporó a la narrativa de Zayn vs OT4 y, finalmente, a la pelea de Zayn vs Naughty Boy, fue parte de la narrativa oficial.  

Fue un comunicado oficial enmarcado como una filtración. Necesitaban algo para legitimar a Zayn como solista y poner distancia entre él y One Direction a la vista del público, ya que su música real no se lanzaría durante casi un año.

Además cuando la música se ¨filtró¨ Zayn dijo ¨Deja que la música hable¨

Procedo a poner un análisis de la letra que es lo que me pediste. :3

Análisis de I Won´t Mind. No me importará

Don't look around 'cause love is blind

And darling right now I can't see you

(No mires a tu alrededor porque el amor es ciego

Y cariño ahora mismo no puedo verte) 

Las primeras líneas ya son fuertes, Zayn dice que el amor es ciego, que no puede verlo, mucha gente aún no entiende que amor es amor, no importa quién seas, amor es amor, también dice que no mire alrededor, que no se fije en el que dirán, que piensa el resto ya que solo importan ellos. La súplica de no mirar a su alrededor significaría que la persona con la que Zayn está hablando no vería las cosas a su alrededor, al igual que Zayn dice que no puede ver a la persona.

I'm feeling proud so without a doubt

I can feel you

(Me siento orgulloso, así que sin duda

Puedo sentirte)

Esta línea siempre me hace pensar que Zayn siempre está orgulloso ( Y orgulloso, está orgulloso de Liam. Liam que trabaja duro y se esfuerza. Sabes que tener a Zayn orgulloso de él lo es todo. ¡Maldita sea!) de la persona con la que está hablando y es por eso que puede identificarla basándose en sentimientos causados ​​solo. Es un sentimiento increíblemente conmovedor, estar orgulloso de alguien cuando se trata de todo lo que hace. Eso es bastante similar al amor incondicional.

'Cause we are who we are, when no one's watching.

(Porque somos quienes somos, cuando nadie está mirando) esto es un poco controversial y a la vez no, puede referirse a que ellos son sus verdadero yo cuando nadie mira, sin tener que fingir algo o alguien quienes NO son, el tener que ocultar una relación en secreto, la línea en general es bastante profunda, tiene tantos significados válidos. 

Puede referirse a cuánto de nuestras vidas se vive dentro de nuestras cabezas frente a dónde otros pueden ver. También puede referirse a cómo nos sentimos presionados para actuar de cierta manera con las personas y solo lo dejamos realmente cuando estamos solos. Si lo piensas en términos de pareja, implica que tienen una conexión saludable entre ellos y no necesitan a quienes los rodean para que su relación funcione.

Es una frase realmente inteligente que tiene muchos significados más profundos, todos ellos profundos y conmovedores.

And right from the start, you know I got you

Yeah, you know I got you

(Y desde el principio, sabes que te tengo

Sí, sabes que te tengo) Este sentimiento me recuerda la frase sobre sentirse orgulloso. Estar allí para brindar apoyo sin importar qué desde el principio y estar orgulloso siempre suena como una relación muy dulce y poderosa.

Combinado con las líneas al frente sobre ser quien eres cuando nadie te está mirando, podría referirse a la persona con la que está hablando sintiendo presión por parte del público o de otras personas en su vida. Podría tratarse de descubrir la sexualidad o en general. Zayn está ahí para ellos y, aunque están luchando, no se equivocan al seguir sus propios sentimientos y ser quienes son.

I won't mind

Even though I know you'll never be mine

I won't mind

Even though I know you'll never be mine

(No me importará

Aunque sé que nunca serás mío

No me importará

Aunque sé que nunca serás mío)

La primera línea dice que, aunque Zayn sabe todo sobre la persona y quiénes son en realidad, no le da automáticamente el derecho a tenerlos y, de hecho, no cree que nunca tendrá ese permiso. La segunda línea omite la parte de "tú" y es una frase más directa que dice que está decidido a aceptar lo que tiene y estar bien con eso, aunque sabe que nunca tendrá el tipo de relación que realmente desea.

La otra interpretación en la que pienso es que Zayn está con la persona que ama, pero nunca puede reclamar públicamente la relación. Eso sería "nunca será mío" delante de los demás.

Él solo quiere expresar su amor incluso si esta persona no puede ser suya en público. 

We messed around until we found

The one thing we said we could never ever live without

(Nos metimos en el lío hasta que encontramos

Lo único que dijimos que nunca podríamos vivir sin)

La mayoría de la gente interpreta la única cosa sin la que nunca podríamos vivir como amor y estoy de acuerdo. Técnicamente podría ser cualquier cosa, pero la canción realmente suena como una canción suspirante combinada con algunas otras cosas.  

Si lo piensas bien, decidir el amor es lo único sin lo que no puedes vivir, es una forma madura de pensar. Si tengo que elegir algo que haga que la vida valga la pena, el amor estaría en la cima, si no el número uno.

“Dimos vueltas hasta que encontramos” podría referirse a tener relaciones poco significativas con otras personas hasta que Zayn y la persona se juntaron. También podría referirse a un tipo de relación de amigos con beneficios antes de que se dieran cuenta de lo profundamente que se sentían y entraran en una relación comprometida. Un significado similar podría ser "perder el tiempo" refiriéndose a jugar como amigos hasta que se den cuenta de sus sentimientos mutuos. Ellos solían pensar que estaban perdiendo el tiempo antes de encontrarse y durante, creyeron que no iba a funcionar cuando realmente estaba empezando algo hermoso.

I'm not allowed to talk about it

(No se me permite hablar de ello) 

Esta línea es bastante inquietante. Se repite en tantas otras líneas en el álbum de Zayn sobre ser silenciado, no se le permite hablar. Si estamos interpretando esto como una canción sobre Zayn y Liam y sobre ser Queer, entonces podría ser un literal "no permitido" viniendo de su equipo. También podría referirse a que la sociedad en general no acepta a quién ama Zayn, haciendo referencia a la Homofobia o directamente al odio que siempre recibe Liam, siempre vemos comentarios de “Si Zayn fuese gay jamás estaría con alguien como Liam” y comentarios mas feos.

No importa cómo interpretes la canción, ya sea sobre Liam o si Zayn es Queer o no, es un fuerte indicador de un tipo de amor prohibido. Podría ser clase, edad, raza, sexualidad, poliamor, etc. Mientras la sociedad no lo apruebe, entonces podría aplicarse. También puede ser un guiño al amor unilateral. En ese caso, no es la sociedad la que no le permite hablar tanto como sus propios miedos de interrumpir el status actual en su relación.

But I gotta tell you..

(Pero tengo que decirte...) 

La última línea única es agridulce.  

Es poderoso porque no importa lo que le digan o cuál sea la situación, Zayn seguirá siendo quien es. No va a ceder a la presión para ocultarlo. También es muy dulce si lo piensas como que Zayn siente que siente la necesidad de expresar su amor a la persona con la que está. Es estar con alguien y querer asegurarse de que escuche "Te amo" en cada oportunidad posible.

Sin embargo, también es triste. Si lo está viendo como la interpretación del amor unilateral, entonces está luchando por mantener sus sentimientos para sí mismo, pero realmente no puede contenerlos. Como una compulsión, sus sentimientos probablemente saldrán a la luz porque no puede. 

Si miras el ángulo de la opresión, entonces la injusticia de que te digan que esconda y reprima algo que él siente con tanta fuerza que necesita expresar y compartir te deja con un sentimiento trágico e impotente.

Si la única forma de que Zayn pueda decirnos como se siente es a través de sus letras deberíamos de escucharlo y apoyarlo, No vemos a Zayn en entrevistas, redes, conciertos, shows, nada, realmente la única forma de escucharle es literalmente esa, escuchar sus letras y ver que nos quiere transmitir, el hecho de que Calamity haya sido la canción mas odiada de su álbum dice demasiado.

Progresión.

Don’t look around ‘cause love is blind,

And darling right now, I can’t see you.

I’m feeling proud so without a doubt,

I can feel you.

'Cause we are who we are,

When no one’s watching.

And right from the start,

You know I got you.

I won’t mind,

Even though I know you,

You’ll never be mine.

I won’t mind,

Even though I know,

You’ll never be mine.

We messed around until we found,

The one thing we said we could never ever,

Live without, I’m not allowed to talk about it,

But I gotta tell you…

(Progresión

No mires a tu alrededor porque el amor es ciego,

y cariño ahora mismo, no puedo verte.

Me siento orgulloso, así que sin duda

puedo sentirte.

Porque somos quienes somos,

cuando nadie está mirando.

Y desde el principio,

sabes que te tengo.

No me importará,

aunque te conozco,

nunca serás mía.

No me importará,

aunque lo sé,

nunca serás mía.

Dimos vueltas hasta que encontramos,

La única cosa que dijimos que nunca podríamos

vivir sin ella, no tengo permitido hablar de eso,

pero tengo que decirte ...)

Si miras la canción en su conjunto, hay algunos mensajes contradictorios.

“Nunca serás mío” es un gran estribillo de la canción, repetido una y otra vez. Da la impresión de amor no correspondido, pero también hay líneas como "desde el principio sabes que te tengo" y "nos dimos vueltas hasta que encontramos la única cosa que dijimos que nunca podríamos vivir sin". Esas líneas suenan como si Zayn consiguiera a la persona por la que suspiraba.

Podría verse como una progresión. Desde el amor unilateral hasta el estar juntos hasta que todavía se le diga que lo oculte del público.  

Depende de cómo lo interpretes porque si crees que toda la canción trata sobre esconderse del público o toda la canción trata sobre el amor no correspondido, no hay realmente un mensaje contradictorio.

Significado general

Los temas de la canción son:

no poder tener la relación que deseas con alguien

tener que esconderse porque algo no es aceptable

sentir orgullo, amor y apoyo por alguien

La canción no menciona nada inherentemente sexual y no tiene por qué ser precisamente romántico. Podría, por ejemplo, tratarse de un niño secreto del que Zayn no tiene la custodia y se esconde en contra de su voluntad, pero hay un problema con eso específicamente.

La canción implica que la persona con la que está hablando es igual a la línea "la única cosa que dijimos que nunca podríamos vivir sin". Eso suena como la filosofía de vida de dos iguales, por lo que descarta todo lo que tenga que ver con una relación entre padres e hijos.

Tiene más sentido cuando lo piensas como una canción sobre el amor romántico unilateral o prohibido. De hecho, podría funcionar bastante bien para Romeo y Julieta.

Creo que la canción trata sobre Liam y Zayn porque encaja en el contexto que nos dan. La implicación de ser silenciado se repite en tantas canciones de Zayn que no tendría sentido ignorar el contexto que apunta a que su equipo es el que lo está silenciando.

Dado que la posibilidad de que Zayn tuviera un amor no correspondido por Liam durante un año o dos antes de que comenzaran a bailar alrededor del otro y finalmente comenzaran una relación comprometida se ha hablado durante mucho tiempo debido a cómo actuaron, esta canción encaja perfectamente con eso. 

Fue la primera canción que Zayn quitó y no la pudo poner en su álbum, fue la primera canción donde Zayn gritó la manera en la que se sentía y nadie la escuchó, fue la primera canción en solista de Zayn, la primera, dónde dijo todo y muchos siguen sin entenderla.

Y con eso terminamos :3 dejaré algunos enlaces en los que me base para hacer esto y les doy todo el crédito, no voy a robarme nada. x/ x/ x/ x

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It's about One Direction in the sense that they contributed to Zayn's mistreatment

i will never deny Zayn faced a lot of issues while in the band as he still does today when is comes to mistreatment - his album that came out this january recieved zero promo and he personally called out the Grammy's and the industry for their treatment of people of colour.

Again there were circumstances that we actually have no clue about and reducing one 24 minute track to a couple of sentences incriminating "one direction" as the takeaway from it is actually... yikes!

As a PoC i have given up on white people understanding our issues. I don't think they ever will and I certainly don't expect a bunch of 21-22 year olds to go against the institutionalised racism prevalent in the society.

In the grand scheme of things, they don't matter. Ot4 have not been racist against Zayn. Ignorant about it? yes. It's Zayn's story, he's here to tell it. We just need to listen. There are far more important issues in the world than a squabble between 5 band members that happened 5 years ago.

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Not at liam saying he thought the joke was funny and teeheeing abt it on Twitter 🙄 Im really at a point where I feel like i only stan Ziall. I feel like Niall is the only one who hasn't publicly disrespected Z or fed into the petty shit, even if he does have hard feelings. Ive been ot5/ziam and thinking 1dhq was responsible for all the drama but maybe not. Idk wtf happened back then, perspective keeps changing. But if they really do hate Z as much as it seems can they leave him the fuck alone.

look, the boys are gonna do and say problematic shit and while i understand where you’re coming from nonnie, i really don’t feel like some of things said (including the snl thing and liam’s response) are meant to be as hateful as a lot of fans are taking it. but you also have every right to do what’s best for you and if that means stepping back from stanning the other boys and focusing only on ziall that’s totally okay. i just don’t want that turn into your harboring hate towards some of the other boys. however things went down i really don’t believe that they hate zayn or ever did, whether there truly is any bad blood there idk, but i just find it extremely hard to believe that they could ever go so far as to hate each other or that any of what they say about each other ever comes from a place of true malice and while it may be hard sometimes i think we just have to try and remember that. though if you disagree that’s fine too because you have every right to feel how you feel and to stan who you want, but just trying to give a varied perspective where i can

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