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ghostwritergirl · 13 days ago

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That is an incredibly fair point!

He still was dismissive of her in Bitter Reunions, but there is one thing that would have changed Vlad’s reaction to Jazz that Danny wouldn’t:

Jazz is what could have been if she was his and Maddie’s child.

Obviously, he interacted with Danny more, both to set up their future rivalry and because Vlad wants a son more than a daughter. But if Danny was not half-ghost, Vlad would be dismissive of him not only because he’s human, but because he looks like a younger Jack and acts almost like him, that he would secretly loathe Danny because of that.

But Jazz?

She’s smart, she’s driven, she’s passionate about her interests, and she looks like Maddie, even though she gets her height from Jack, and she’s willing to lie and manipulate to get her way (Attack Of The Killer Garage Sale to get Dash to invite Danny while not going herself, getting her family to agree to go camping with no ghost weaponry in The Fenton Menace, how she manipulated Freakshow to gain a weakness to help Danny later in Reality Trip, lying to Vlad to get into his castle and lab to investigate the stolen tech in Secret Weapons), all traits Vlad has and wanted to foster in Danny (Danny is manipulative as well, but that was mostly because of his powers while Jazz consistently has that trait). Vlad would have more interest in her because he can see what would have happened if he and Maddie got married, that even though she isn’t a boy she’s much more like a child between him and Maddie than Danny ever is, and that’s the exact dynamic we got between him and Jazz in Secret Weapons—that if Danny may be his father’s son and lost potential of being his and Maddie’s child if he remained human, then Jazz is her mother’s daughter and brimming with full potential of being their child.

(This can also be Vlad creepily projecting onto Jazz and seeing her as a mini-Maddie who he can influence into being more like him, but I digress)

Hot take — Vlad didn’t want Danny as his son until after he saw he was half-ghost

(Lemme explain first!)

So we’re introduced to Vlad in Bitter Reunions, someone who doesn’t like Jack and likes Maddie (very creepily)… but is dismissive of both Jazz AND Danny.

You heard that right. Vlad was dismissive of Danny in the beginning. Yeah, he’s polite to Danny and indulges his correct assumption of Vlad being obsessed with the Packers based on the decor and admiration of his signed football.

But other than that?

Vlad couldn’t care less about Danny, would probably see him and Jazz as a necessary part of having Maddie, that maybe he sees what could have been if he was with Maddie in them both but overall doesn’t really have particular focus on Danny.

But do you know what changes Vlad’s tune?

He sees Danny change from ghost form to human form after their fight, that he’s a half-ghost like him (and given how shocked he was, I doubt he knew that Phantom was half-ghost, let alone that he was Danny, until he saw him transform outside of rumours from the Zone that he probably didn’t believe… until that moment)

IMMEDIATELY Vlad’s demeanour changes around Danny—he calls him nicknames like Little Badger and son that a father would call his kid, he pays more attention to Danny, especially at the party before he asks him to go down in the lab, and of course he makes the offer for Danny to join him and be his apprentice and son. Which Danny, of course, refuses and begins the start of one of THE most iconic hero and villain dynamics ever and which still holds our attention years later, especially what could have been if Vlad was less of an asshole and genuine in being a mentor/fun uncle or got a redemption

But, would that still have happened if Danny WASN’T half-ghost?

ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Vlad saw himself in Danny, powers and all, something he wanted to mould into his image and make into someone just like Vlad, that narrative-speaking they were meant to be each other’s foils, a visual representation of how Danny could have turned out if he wasn’t who he was. But that would NEVER have happened if Danny wasn’t half-ghost, that Vlad would have dismissed or outright ignored him (especially with his close resemblance to Jack), he would never go to such lengths as cloning Danny if he wasn’t half-ghost like Vlad. NONE of their rivalry and moments in the series because of it (the bounty, EVERYTHING in Reign Storm, Dan, Vlad cloning Danny and resulting in Dani) would have never happened; I don’t even think Valerie would have become a ghost hunter if it wasn’t Danny who ruined her life and therefore Vlad never sent her that suit! None of that would happen if Danny was still human and therefore not of interest to Vlad. It only did because Danny was half-ghost, and therefore Vlad did see himself/his “son” in Danny and resulting in all of that, that they were foils of each other BECAUSE they were half-ghost.

Anyway, that’s my thoughts on Vlad viewing Danny as his son and how Danny being a halfa impacted that, thanks for coming to my TED talk!

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ghostwritergirl · 13 days ago

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Jazz Fenton is autistic

Now, this might be projection, but I do believe that Jazz is autistic-coded under the veneer of cliche know-it-all and pushy older sister (and also aroace-coded, but I’m saving that for Pride Month next week), and there are several instances throughout the show that she is as such:

Jack chasing after Maddie

In Prisoners Of Love, Jazz is shown to be confident that Jack will not apologise to Maddie for forgetting their anniversary, her exact words being “And if I’m right, Dad will cluelessly do nothing to apologise to her.” She’s confident because not only has she picked that up as a habit of her dad’s, but one that her dad has consistently never changed and accepted it as part of routine, that if dad screws up and mom is mad, then of course dad won’t apologise…

… which is why it was such a shock when Jack did go after Maddie to apologise to her and Jazz was left in a state of shock, not only because she was wrong, but because this is a change in a familiar routine! A change she never predicted or expected! And with us autistics, we handle change we never predict pretty badly, as we see seconds later of Jazz obsessing over what she’s observed of Jack’s behavioural patterns and looking visibly stressed out—that this isn’t just a case of her psychoanalysis of her father being wrong, but a case where she’s struggling to handle such a massive change in a routine she’s observed and grown comfortable with, that her line about what else she could be wrong about could very well mean what other changes she never expected will come (and a pretty big change DID come literally an episode later…)

Her worldview being challenged

This is also tied into what I meant with Jazz and change. For the longest time, Jazz clung to her worldview that ghosts weren’t real and her parents were insane for believing in ghosts, it was something she believed in wholeheartedly because of ghosts aren’t real, something she probably thought was a fact since there was little proof for otherwise… and then ghosts were real. Now, the reason I believe Jazz handled this better than the prior example is because yes, it’s hard to deal with a change to our routines/worldviews… but it was softened for Jazz since her parents always claimed ghosts were real. And that’s not saying it wasn’t—when she first saw Bertrand, she WAS questioning if that was a ghost before Danny arrived and started fighting him, and after that she was excited to tell Danny. But that doesn’t mean her entire worldview was upended again, that she compartmentalised it for later and then struggled with such a change to what was such an established fact that the world proved her right, before it was absolutely upended.

And it’s clear she still struggled with it! In Maternal Instincts, literally almost ten episodes AFTER learning ghosts were real and her brother was half-ghost, Jazz said to Jack that the ghost hunting was a social experiment of her disdain for it, which can be easily read as her still struggling with such a massive change to her worldview that is consistently being challenged by all the ghost attacks and Danny’s status as half-ghost. By the time the episode ends, it’s clear she has accepted ghosts are real, but not without it being a huge challenge to her to deal with.

Her emotional maturity

From the first episode, Jazz has declared she is “psychologically an adult” when she’s just sixteen, hinting at feelings of parentification where Jazz felt like she needed to be more emotionally mature than her emotionally immature parents for both herself and Danny. But this can also be a sign of masking and a need to be more “mature” for both herself and as perceived by the other adults in her life that many autistic people, especially autistic girls, deal with. She had to constantly mask throughout the entirety of the first and a little bit into the second season as someone who’s emotionally mature, smart and polite to adults and can be seen as overbearing and pushy to Danny (especially since he’s among the few who knows how Jazz acts without masking and especially what masking looks like—autistic and ADHD siblings for the win), that she even had to mask her emotional attachment to her stuffed teddy bear so she can be seen as mature and not a kid, that this mask was so prevalent that Ember’s song that mind controlled the adults affected Jazz, too. But during My Brother’s Keeper, Maternal Instincts, the end of Fenton Menace and throughout the rest of the show, especially Secret Weapons? We get a glimpse into what Jazz’s real personality looks like without her mask, and it’s someone who’s still smart and polite, but is also sweet, dorky, a bit of a klutz when it comes to ghost hunting but who unquestionably loves her family, especially her little brother (and a little bit manipulative with Vlad, but I digress) Though Jazz’s self-proclaimed emotional maturity was what was meant to show her as the sane man in her family (and she absolutely is), it is unquestionably still a mask she has to wear to prove that she is, especially after we see what her real personality is like.

We can also see her mask as a way for her to fit in, not only because of who her parents are but because she wants to blend in. She’ll mask and conform to what society expects of her, making herself fit in the mould and try to distance herself from her parents’ influence in the process, to hide both the traits she inherited from them, and her own autistic traits that could be seen as weird or not normal. But as discussed, when the mask slips and we see her real personality, it’s nowhere close to what she presents as in the beginning of the show, and that further on she starts to lose her mask and grow more comfortable in showing who she really is without it.

Talking about her top colleges/psychology

THIS was what made me relate to Jazz, when she talked about her top colleges in Ultimate Enemy and the girls walked away. Jazz was clearly info-dumping about something that she is really excited to talk about as the colleges are a part of her special interest in psychology, and the look on her face says that this isn’t the first time she’s info-dumped and people walked away or not bothered to listen to her. This can also see as her trying to bond with her peers by asking them what their top colleges are since that’s what she is interested in, but to no avail. And when Jazz talks about things that relate back to psychology, that’s her tying it back to her main special interest to get her point across better to others. She’s trying really hard to connect to people, to even her own family, with her special interest and no one can be bothered to listen and meet her halfway (she also uses it to try and help Danny, but that’s a totally different point)

Not reading Dash was flirting with her

Okay, this can also suit the aroace Jazz post, but thought I add it here anyway.

When Dash flirted with Jazz, Jazz didn’t notice at first, only getting annoyed that he wasn’t focusing on her tutoring him and disproving her thesis. That she clearly misread that particular social cue of Dash’s, a pretty common trait for autism. Of course, she picked it up still, but it was clear she had misread that. The moment in the office where she awkwardly waved to Bertrand in My Brother’s Keeper and the hallway scene in TUE are all clear signs of Jazz misreading the social cues given to her, that while she’s adept at masking she still struggles with picking up social cues.

Along with social cues, Jazz can struggle with reading certain social situations—like being INCREDIBLY blunt about Vlad’s decorative tastes as a framing of a question—and misreading facial expressions—like Amorpho with her scrapbook. Sometimes she does pick up on cues and situations where she doesn’t want to get involved with people (Dash’s party, the reunion), and she is pretty good at reading people, but she still struggles with them and tries to get better, especially with her masking in season one and early season two.

The clown painting

This was very autistic to me, the whole scene with Jazz at the clown painting. Sure, it could be a link to her psychology, but Jazz saw a deeper meaning in the painting, that it was symbolic of the clown’s sadness despite his smile that the artist disproved by saying that he was smiling on the inside. Jazz frowns shortly after, because her brain picked up something else that made sense and completely missed or ignored what was supposed to be obvious to her, of course the clown is smiling on the inside, why wouldn’t he be smiling?

Jazz’s lying skills

Jazz is a bad liar. Sure, she can think on her feet and she kept Danny’s secret without him finding out, but she is really bad at lying at several points of the show, especially before she knew Danny’s secret and how she acted around Vlad. For me personally, I always struggle with lying, and I can see that as a struggle for Jazz, that for someone who is open about her emotions has difficulty with lies. It’s only a miracle that Danny is just as bad a liar as her and never once thought she’d know and that Vlad was too wrapped up in Jazz “renouncing” her father to suspect she was lying until Skulker popped into the lab with Danny

Her ghost hunting skills

This may be a trait she shares with her dad… but it’s a common trait for autistic people to have development delays. For Jazz, this is shown in her hand-eye coordination and clumsiness, that she has a lot of difficulty with that and while she does get better by the third season, it’s obvious that there were clear delays and she struggled to get the hang of it much slower than Danny or even her dad did.

Conclusion

Jazz Fenton is autistic-coded. While she never stimmed or visibly showed discomfort over certain foods and sensations or had a meltdown, all of the above is enough that makes it clear she was unintentionally coded that way and is unintentionally an autistic icon, especially for autistic girls. And if DP gets revived, I truly hope that she will be canonically confirmed as autistic, and still be good rep. Autistic Jazz Fenton, you will always be real to me.

GhostWriterGirl out!

#danny phantom #dp #jazz fenton #autism #neurodiveristy #Jazz Fenton is autistic and I will die on this hill now and forever

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ghostwritergirl · 13 days ago

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Hot take — Vlad didn’t want Danny as his son until after he saw he was half-ghost

(Lemme explain first!)

So we’re introduced to Vlad in Bitter Reunions, someone who doesn’t like Jack and likes Maddie (very creepily)… but is dismissive of both Jazz AND Danny.

But other than that?

But do you know what changes Vlad’s tune?

But, would that still have happened if Danny WASN’T half-ghost?

ABSOLUTELY NOT!

Anyway, that’s my thoughts on Vlad viewing Danny as his son and how Danny being a halfa impacted that, thanks for coming to my TED talk!

#danny phantom #dp #dp fandom #dp analysis #danny fenton #vlad plasmius

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ghostwritergirl · 13 days ago

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Frightmare and MY take on it

(@geekgirles and I were chatting about this, but thought I’d go more in-depth)

If I had to choose ANY episode to rewrite from Danny Phantom s3 (aside from Urban Jungle, but that’s a whole other post) it would be Frightmare. In a HEARTBEAT. Just because of the SHEER POTENTIAL that a dream ghost and dream horror has, and the character growth we could have gotten!

When I watched Frightmare for the first time, I loved it. I thought it was a good and solid episode, especially for s3. But after watching shows like She-Ra And The Princesses Of Power, Gravity Falls, The Owl House and DuckTales 2017 (iykyk the episodes I’m talking about for all those shows) where they did similar dream/false reality plots like Frightmare… I now see how much potential was WASTED with Frightmare. And here is MY take on Frightmare/how it should have gone.

First off, it would be a special. Honestly, this and Undergrowth’s episodes deserved to be specials (Vortex… not so much). It would still start how it did in canon, in Danny’s POV and a regular day for him, but it would just be a little… off. Maybe his parents are more attentive and less biased to ghosts, maybe Jazz is a little less overbearing, but nothing too major to really raise Danny’s suspicions and he’d just brush it off (maybe he’d see a change in his parents’ attitude to ghosts and Phantom as a sign they might accept him when he tells them and it isn’t taken out of his hands), and he goes to school and meets up with Tucker. They go through the school day like normal, but there are little things that are just not right—the clock is a little too loud, the time is a little bit blurred, his classmates are a little bit too nice to him and his teachers a little bit too forgiving, his grades are a little bit better, Tucker’s a little more flat��but again, all things Danny can brush off. Except, not quite because Danny sees things that almost trigger his ghost sense but not quite—a green shape darting out of a view, a starry silhouette that’s gone when he looks back, the feeling of red eyes watching him and a whisper in the back of his mind, a voice talking to him, a figure out of the corner of his eye that disappears when he turns to it. Just all those little things that just build up and raise his suspicions, but it’s all fine, everything’s fine, right?

Then the moment in the cafeteria happens, just like in canon—Dash is nice to him and Tucker, everyone treats Danny better, he’s well-liked and accepted for who he is, and when Fright Knight attacks, everyone cheers for Danny and accepts he has powers and is half-ghost, which is definitely something Danny has always wanted underneath the teenage desire of popularity to be accepted and seen for who he is, and he fights Fright Knight—except at the end he notices the green shapes again, that starry form and disappearing figure and the feeling he’s being watched increases, that something not right pinging in the back of his head. But he ignores it and heads back to school, transforming back and learning Sam is his girlfriend (which is the one thing that didn’t ping as wrong, that Sam being his girlfriend just feels right to Danny) and they go to kiss… until Danny notices something in the hallway.

He decides to investigate despite his friends waving him off as nothing being wrong, following his gut and that something isn’t right… and he sees a version of himself, telling him to wake up, that this is all a dream and Amity Park is in danger. Sam and Tucker arrive and tell Danny that Danny is a fake and trying to trick him but the other Danny insists he’s a part of Danny’s consciousness not under the dream and fighting to wake up, that he needs to wake up, but his friends insist that he’s lying, that everything is perfect, that Amity Park doesn’t need him. And that is what fully tips Danny off, as his friends know that he would never abandon Amity Park to an unknown danger if he could help it, even if it is a trick, as little things add up about Tucker and Sam’s behaviour… including how they nearly kissed in front of everyone, when Sam isn’t comfortable with such public displays. Now realising that something is definitely wrong, Danny demands what’s going on… and that’s when things get horrific >:)

Nocturne, using “Sam” and “Tucker”, controls them as the surroundings blur and twist, the other students becoming faceless shadows, colours darkening and shadows sharpening, as Nocturne tells Danny he hoped he wouldn’t wake up, that while he was impressed he thought that Danny wouldn’t be fighting as much, as Danny remembers what happened before—everyone slowly falling asleep, him trying to stay awake, facing against Nocturne… and then the “perfect” day that is actually a dream turned nightmare as Nocturne, seeing that, introduces himself and announces his intentions. Danny transforms to fight Nocturne but he summons Sleepwalkers and uses Tucker and Sam to fight against Danny, and he fights against the Sleepwalkers, unable to fight Sam and Tucker even if it’s not them as Nocturne taunts him about wanting acceptance and love from his peers and his family and friends, musing about his fears as Danny fights before the dream twists and becomes a nightmare—a nightmare of Danny having to watch his family and Sam and Tucker die and be unable to save them over and over in horrific ways as they scream for him, a nightmare of his hometown being destroyed whether it’s by Pariah Dark or Undergrowth or another, stronger ghost or the ghost he always feared as it shifts into Danny’s worst fear, his worst nightmare.

Dan.

Dan shows up, but not the real Dan—rather, the manifestation of every single one of Danny’s fears, of him not being good enough, of him being exactly what he always feared he’d become and that his parents were right all along about ghosts, that Vlad was right about them being alike, that he hadn’t changed his future, that he was a monster. As he and “Dan” fight, Nocturne still taunting him, as it reaches a point where Danny might fail, he gains the strength to fight back, to show how much he’s grown, that while he’s always had this fear and always wants acceptance from his parents, he knows who and what he is, has accepted himself, that he will never become Dan or anything like him, that he isn’t a monster, that he is and always will be himself, be half-ghost and half-human, be a hero, be Danny Fenton and Phantom, and that he will wake up and defeat Nocturne, because he will never, ever give up fighting or protecting his hometown and the people he loves, no matter what.

At that, he defeats Dan (with a Wail, his ice or even a punch), and with Dan’s—and Nocturne’s—defeat, Danny wakes up. And that ends the first half of the special.

The second half is Danny returning back to Amity Park, evading Nocturne and his army of drones as they search for Danny, now wide awake, and waking up Tucker, Sam and Jazz. In each of their dreams, their “perfect” dreams turn into nightmares, where they face against their respective fears, insecurities and demons (Tucker’s jealously and selfishness in the form of his ghost half that also has elements of his king self, Sam’s guilt and judgmental/hypocritical nature in the form of her plant self, Jazz’s self-blame and pushiness in the form of her own critical self that blames her for not being there for Danny and not saving him from the Portal and trying to compensate by pushing her way into ghost fighting when it was too little too late) and triumph over them, showing their character growth and development before they all break out and confront Nocturne. Tucker and Jazz still handle destroying the machine in the living realm while Sam and Danny still overshadow Nocturne (they also still have that iconic and sweet “Can you make room for me?” moment) and fight him in his dream, where he tries to overwhelm them and use their fears and demons against them, but they all fight it together in the real and dream realms, before Tucker destroys the machine and Danny and Sam take down their demons and Nocturne together before being expelled and capturing Nocturne for real in the Thermos as everyone wakes up. The episode ends with a mix of canon ending and Team Phantom reflecting on their growth and facing their fears, and Danny and Sam denying the part of their dreams where they were together, and being adorkable blushy messes as the special ends, hinting that they know that the other’s feelings for each other is mutual.

Idk what anyone else’s thoughts would be on Frightmare or a rewrite of it, but that’s personally how I would rewrite it and would like to see it go down if we get a DP revival! Thanks for coming to TED talk and enjoying my ramble!

#danny phantom #dp #dp fandom #frightmare #nocturne #danny fenton #sam manson #tucker foley #jazz fenton #dan phantom #rewrite #episode rewrite #give me Frightmare to rewrite for a reboot I’d give it the dream horror and showcase of character growth it deserved

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ghostwritergirl · 14 days ago

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DP x DC Prompt: Old Friends And Trust

The moment Sam and Tim saw each other at their first gala when they were seven, they were fast friends.

The two, who’d been bored and miserable, clocked each other and hid out before deciding to cause a little chaos. When the gala ended, Sam and Tim were friends and inseparable, sharing each other’s numbers. The Mansons were greatly encouraging of this, seeing an opportunity for their daughter to marry into the Drake family fortune (though Sam and Tim never felt romantic feelings for each other and only ever see each other as friends)

They continued to see each other at galas and talked over the phone, growing closer, close enough to confide in each other—Tim told Sam about his parents’ neglect and that he stalked Batman and Robin and Sam told Tim about her growing dysfunctional relationship with her parents as she grew older and wasn’t the daughter they wanted and about her friends, Danny and Tucker. Even though they seemed absolute opposites, the two just clicked.

They remained close friends for years… until they were thirteen and Sam’s parents told her that she wouldn’t join them in the galas at Gotham after the death of Jason Todd, fearing for their only daughter’s safety even though Jason didn’t die in Gotham. Sam was pissed and let Tim know, and they promised each other they would try to stay in contact.

It worked for a couple of years, but over the course of time and Tim becoming Robin and Red Robin and co-CEO of W.E, losing his parents and becoming part of the Wayne family and Sam helping Danny with ghost fighting along with Tucker and eventually Jazz and keeping his secret from literally everyone BUT the ghosts, especially his parents and the GIW, and the media blackout the GIW placed on Amity Park after the ghosts started attacking, they fell out of touch. But Sam always kept up to date with what was happening to Tim, that if the worst should happen, then she had someone who could help Danny, that she trusted Tim to help Danny, to help keep him safe. But that was only when the worst happened, when they had no other choices and no other options.

And then it did.

Tim was working in the Batcave when he had heard over the intercom someone was at the front door, asking for him. Expecting it to be his boyfriend, team or anyone else, Tim went to answer it.

Never had he expected to see his old childhood friend standing on the other side of the door, bedraggled and with dark lines of makeup running down her face, an equally roughed-up boy next to her, a practiced wince hiding an injury.

And between them was another boy, who looked to be a prime candidate for adoption, covered in blood and smears of what looked to be Lazarus water, bandaged injuries covering his arms and peeking out from beneath his clothes… and a disturbing injury in the shape of a Y on his chest shadowed underneath his shirt.

Sam had looked at him then, new tears filling her eyes, and said, “Danny’s parents… they hurt him. Bad. And now he’s being hunted and he can’t go to a hospital because he’ll be taken or… or worse. You’re the only person I know who could keep him safe, who could help. Tim, please, help us, help Danny. Please.”

In the face of his childhood friend’s pleading, at seeing the look on his face, how injured the boy was, Tim pushed back all the questions screaming at his mind and did the only thing he could.

He let them in and promised he would help, that Danny would receive medical help. That he was safe—that all of them were safe.

He promised that as he comprised a new case, to figure out what had happened to Danny and what was going on in their hometown—and to make the ones that did that to Danny face justice.

Meanwhile, Bruce’s adoption senses are tingling as the rest of the Batfam feel a disturbance in the force that could mean a new sibling, burning down a governmental organisation… or both.

#just… the idea of Tim and Sam being childhood friends is filled with so much potential #especially if he’s Sam’s secret option to turn to for safety and to help Danny #her instincts and trust in him are definitely right #It doesn’t take long for the Batkids to start betting how long it will take for Bruce to adopt Danny after he’s medically treated #Bruce is absolutely fighting the urge to adopt Danny but each new revelation is making that harder #The Batkids are also halfway to adopting Danny as a new sibling themselves #And getting ready to burn down the GIW #Sam and Tucker will help #Sam will be throwing Molotov cocktails at them like she deserves #danny phantom #batman #dp x dc #dp x dc crossover #sam manson #tim drake #dp x dc prompt #writing prompt

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ghostwritergirl · 15 days ago

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Absolutely agree, I feel like if Nickelodeon put the reboot in the hands of us Phans, the DP revival would be so peak—we would get the horror front and centre that was underlying in the original show and the characters would be written so well, especially the female characters, and the lore we gained from canon and headcanons that is now so collectively fanon would all be canon and integrated into the revival. We could even get more foils like this between Danny and Vlad with the ones they love! (And I say love EXTREMELY loosely for Vlad)

Just… DP revival would be EXTREMELY good if us Phans were in creative control of it.

From a narrative standpoint, given the similarities between the college trio and our favourite trio, it's a pity that Vlad never took a personal interest in Danny and Sam's relationship as a result of how similar Sam is to Maddie and their respective relationships.

After all, both Maddie and Sam are reasonable, level-headed, and intelligent, even though they're not above getting carried away with their own interests (ghost for Maddie, and her causes for Sam). They're also the moral backbone of their respective groups, as well as the most physically fit and capable member/fighter without ghost powers. Hell, they both have purple eyes!

And think about it, Vlad's obsession with Danny is a direct result of him being the second halfa in existence and Maddie's son. Vlad sees both himself and what could have been in Danny, which is why he's so desperate to have him renounce Jack as his father in favour of him.

So with that in mind, wouldn't it have made sense for him to become invested in his relationship with Sam upon being reminded of him and Maddie? To try and manipulate the circumstances in a twisted attempt to look out for Danny and to guarantee they end up together and the boy doesn't suffer the same fate as him?

That would also add a more understandable and impactful obstacle to their relationship that would justify how long it took them to end up together beyond shyness and the fear of ruining their friendship. With Vlad taking an interest in them, Danny and Sam would be wrecked with doubt over if what they feel for each other is real or a result of Vlad's manipulations. With having to come to terms with the fact that, no, Vlad had nothing to do with it, being the driving force behind them getting together.

I don't know. Just some food for thought.

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ghostwritergirl · 15 days ago

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Let’s talk about Danny’s trauma over Dan and why it’s ignored in Dan redemption stories

I love a good redemption for a villain/asshole character (Zuko, Hunter, Steve) and I’m impartial to Dan being redeemed… but let’s sit for a moment and talk about how Dan being redeemed completely ignores and invalidates Danny’s trauma.

For starters, let’s get one thing clear: Dan was Danny’s worst enemy aside from Pariah Dark. I’m not counting Undergrowth, Nocturne or Vortex because at that point Danny could go toe-to-toe with them power-wise (and s3 writing quality, but that’s not the point) He was everything Danny feared of becoming, the monster he was always afraid he could become and that his parents were right all along about ghosts, that he was like Vlad. He tried to kill Danny’s family, Sam, Tucker and Lancer to ensure Danny would become him, and it’s implied he would have left him floating around in the future Ghost Zone for who knows how long and still tied up and possibly even get killed again by the ghosts who want revenge (don’t tell me that if he hadn’t gotten his Wail, Danny would have died) Danny probably had nightmares for MONTHS and could barely look at his reflection after everything with Dan, that he’s terrified of cheating or screwing up in case that’s the catalyst for him becoming Dan or something much worse, that it would even impact on how he sees himself as an adult (which I talked all about in another post)

Safe to say, out of everything Danny’s faced, Dan is Danny’s worst fear, the one that left him the most trauma and mental scars outside of Pariah and the accident.

And you know what Dan redemptions do pretty consistently?

They ignore Danny’s trauma.

ALL the focus is on Dan and his trauma and him learning to be a better person and making up for what he did, which is fair considering it’s Dan being redeemed. But there is little to NOTHING on how Dan being in Danny’s timeline affects HIM, that his ultimate enemy and greatest fear is literally constantly around, that him being around triggers all of Danny’s traumas. Danny’s trauma and fears are completely invalidated or hardly acknowledged when it comes to Dan’s redemption and that he must deal with Dan being there instead of rightfully being upset and triggered literally every time he and Dan are in the same freaking room! And hardly none of the characters think it’s a problem when Team Phantom, while not knowing all the details, know just how much Dan messed Danny up! They just push it aside in favour of focusing on Dan!

Dan has trauma and issues, he was a kid who lost everything and Vlad’s ghost half and a lot of things played a role in him becoming evil, that the Danny we know could have gone down the same path quite easily… but can we please acknowledge that and Danny’s trauma over Dan at once without ignoring Danny’s trauma in the process?

Anyway, thanks for coming to my TED talk, just wanted to vent that all out.

#I did do this in my fic for the DannyMay Enemy prompt on ao3 #But still wanted to go slightly more in depth here anyway #Because can we please make it a thing where we don’t ignore Danny’s Dan trauma and acknowledge it? Please?#Like both things can exist at once #Also please don’t murder me those who love Dan being redeemed #I’m just trying to point out how Danny’s trauma is constantly invalidated when it comes to Dan’s redemption #danny phantom #danny fenton #dan phantom #dark danny #dp #dp fandom #Dp analysis #I might be wrong but that’s the take I get whenever I stumble on Dan being redeemed

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ghostwritergirl · 16 days ago

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Give me a Sam Manson who thrifts, alters and makes her own clothes both because she enjoys it and because she doesn’t want to contribute to fast fashion. Give me a Sam Manson who shops from and supports small businesses and farmer markets. Give me a Sam Manson who respects hunting when it’s solely for food and the hunter respects and uses every part of the animal. Give me a Sam Manson who only keeps a small portion of her allowance money for herself and donates the rest into the non-for-profit charities for the environmental and social issues she advocates for. Give me a Sam Manson who tries not to waste anything and will reuse and reinvent whatever things she can in creative ways. Give me a Sam Manson who makes sure all the makeup and hair dye products she uses are environmentally friendly and weren’t tested on animals and the profits go towards organisations they support. Give me a Sam Manson who has plants in her room and loves horror, poetry, and mythology. Give me a Sam Manson who violently punches a racist for Tucker and kicks in the groin of a biphobe, ableist and transphobe for Danny. Give me a Sam Manson who helps to organise protests and campaigns. Give me a Sam Manson who is ACAB. Give me a Sam Manson who is actually Goth and listens to the music along with listening to and loving metal and rock music. Give me a Sam Manson who’s Jewish heritage is acknowledged and shown outside of a Christmas special. Give me a Sam Manson who is an active member in ghost fighting and is the second-best fighter in the trio after Danny. Give me a Sam Manson who is passionate, who is a ride or die friend, who is is fiercely loyal and protective of those who are hers, who may have her flaws but at her core she is someone who is unshakeably loyal and would do anything to keep her boys safe. Give me a Sam Manson who is passionate about her interests, who actually HAS interests and genuinely cares about the issues she advocates for and does whatever she can to lessen her own impact on the environment and support smaller businesses, who loves and is viciously loyal to Tucker and Danny. Give me a Sam Manson who actually is a character that develops.

#Sam Manson I would treat you and your character so much better than those writers ever did #I will and forever always love Sam and make her an actual character with development when I write her #She deserved so much better than what the writers did to her #danny phantom #sam manson #dp fandom

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ghostwritergirl · 16 days ago

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DP x DC fandom: Continuously has Jason being a revenant and/or halfa, Lazarus Pits being ectoplasm, Damian and Cass being liminal, Constantine knowing about the Realms and being both terrified and wary of them and maybe owing Pariah, the Ancients and other older ghosts pieces of his soul, Danny being a Batfam member and maybe Solomon Grundy or Deadman in the DC x DP crossover

Me: Casually pushes my halfa Greta Hayes and the Gentleman Ghost agendas into the fandom

#Don’t get me wrong I love all of the above too #I just think Greta Hayes and Gentleman Ghost are SEVERELY underrated in DPxDC #Same with other ghosts in DC like Marilyn Moonlight #Give them all the same attention as everything else in DPxDC too!!#Will now and forever always push those agendas #danny phantom #dc #dp x dc #dp x dc crossover

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ghostwritergirl · 16 days ago

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Danny Phantom revival, but it’s still animated, geared towards older kids, doesn’t shy away from the horror and serious themes and pairs them well with the superhero/comedy elements instead of clashing, the original show’s monster of the week style goes hand in hand with an overarching storyline, there’s more found family, everyone gets actual character development, there’s a lot more worldbuilding and lore into the Ghost Zone and ghosts, and a lot of the fanon lore like cores, Obsessions, Haunts, Ghost Speak, liminality, etc. is incorporated into it. It’s also very queer. Oh, and it would be in the same vein of The Owl House, Gravity Falls and Jentry Chau Vs. The Underworld in being a good animated series with horror elements and not shying away from it while still being aimed towards kids, and the theme song is still the same because it’s still an absolute banger twenty-one years later.

#Literally would give anything for DP to be revived and be like TOH and GF and Jentry Chau #I would so enjoy the darkness and horror of a DP revival with the comedy and superhero elements still #While I’d love it to be similar to the show’s original art style DP revival in Jentry Chau art style would be SICK ngl #Would also love if it followed in GF and TOH’s footsteps in having a pretty tame first season and then going INSANE second season-onward #Think gnomes puking rainbows to “ANCIENT SINS!” pipeline #Also give me actual character development and character arcs okay?#Especially for my girl Sam #She deserves a proper characterisation and character development/arc in a revival #danny phantom #dp #dp fandom

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ghostwritergirl · 17 days ago

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DP x DC prompt: Finding Halfas Unexpectedly (And Incredibly Sick Ones While At It)

While travelling to Gotham for the annual meet up with Tim and the rest of YJ, Greta gets kidnapped by the GIW, since she registers as a ghost to them even though she insists she’s human (she doesn’t mention she was formerly a ghost). They don’t care and kidnap her, intending to do lots of painful experiments and torture with other ghosts they’ve captured. Meanwhile, Greta is scared, confused and reliving her trauma of being detained by the D.E.O, except this time her friends aren’t coming to save her and she doesn’t even have her powers to help.

Except rescue DOES come, in the shape of a glowing boy with snow-white hair and glowing green eyes and powers that look a little too similar to Greta’s own as he frees the other glowing people that are apparently ghosts. He does a double take at seeing her, shock on his face as he talks in a garbled language Greta can sort of understand.

Then the boy rips a hole into the fabric of reality and revealing something green and glowing and reminding her too much of death on the other side and as while the ghosts are fleeing through the portal, he grabs and drags Greta through it, screaming, before she blacks out.

At the same time, Jason’s been struggling with his Pit Rage recently, even though it doesn’t feel like rage and more like hunger, before he collapses in the middle of patrol. That’s when a glowing kid appears in front of him, shocked and horrified as she asks him what’s wrong with his core, whatever the hell that means. Jason doesn’t have the time to ask before a portal opens that looks disturbingly like the Lazarus Pits appears and the kid grabs him and drags him through it with surprising strength as the Pits scream in Jason and pain erupts across his entire body before he blacks out.

The next thing Greta and Jason know, they’re in an infirmary ward that isn’t in the Watchtower, Batcave or Titan’s Tower, there’s cuffs around Jason’s wrists that look to be made of ice, they both strangely feel better than they have in a long time, and there’s a freaking yeti with an ice arm standing at the other end of the room who informs Jason the cuffs were a precaution after he went a little berserk earlier, since Lazarus water and the puree ectoplasm of the Realms don’t mix that well, and now that they’re awake, the procedures can begin for reviving Greta’s core that has been dormant since Darkseid that would have ended up hurting her in the long run and was getting severely malnourished and removing the contaminated ectoplasm from Jason’s core that was slowly starving and killing him again, and once they’re done they can once more be healthy ghosts (he didn’t clarify ghost forms, as he thought they both knew about their halfa status)

Cue the inevitable freak-out from Jason and Greta and attempt at escape from the yeti that wants to murder them both again.

In the other room, Danny and Dani are reenacting the Spider-Man meme and sharing in their shock over how they both found halfas with messed-up cores while Danny was doing a rescue/raid at a GIW base and Dani was visiting Gotham at the same time… until they hear the chaos happening with Frostbite and now they have to explain what being a halfa actually is to those very halfas who have no freaking clue and think they’re being murdered again instead of receiving much-needed medical help.

Guess they really should have explained things before dragging them through portals, huh?

#the Batfam and Young Justice are just panicking and trying to find Jason and Greta and failing in the background #Make Greta Hayes a halfa too cowards #Halfa Greta deserves just as much love as halfa Jason or even halfa Damian #Danny and Dani are continuing the tradition of unexpectedly finding halfas that Vlad started with Danny #Except this time they actually help Greta and Jason and don’t fight them #Dani is absolutely gonna be adopted #Danny… that depends on his parents #Not like Bruce and Jason aren’t gonna try their hardest to adopt this traumatised half-dead teenage vigilante #Greta too while at it #She won’t complain as long she isn’t murdered again #danny phantom #dc #dp x dc #dp x dc crossover #dp fandom #danny fenton #dani phantom #batman #batfam #young justice #jason todd #greta hayes #young just us #writing prompt #dp x dc prompt

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ghostwritergirl · 17 days ago

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Hot take — Danny doesn’t have long hair or is built like a fridge as an adult

(Lemme explain first before you grab the pitchforks and ecto-guns)

(CW: mentions of slight body dysphoria)

Look, as much as I love the idea of long-haired Danny and him taking after Jack in height and build (more than he already does)… I don’t think Danny would have long hair or be built like Superman as an adult, that he’d actually avoid that as humanely possible. And why would he do that?

Because who else is built like Superman, has long hair and happened to give Danny a snapshot into what adult him would look like, even though it was him as a ghost?

Dan.

The same Dan who is evil, who wiped out humanity, who tried to set Danny on the same path, who is literally Danny’s worst enemy and biggest fear/trauma aside from his death and revival in the portal. Who Danny sees in the mirror literally EVERY SINGLE TIME for MONTHS after fighting him. Who Danny would do ANYTHING to avoid becoming him, much less looking like him, who probably had a panic attack when he noticed he was growing fangs and his ears were becoming pointed in both forms, that his skin looked more icy blue than tanned in ghost form. Who would see Dan in his reflection when his hair grew out a little bit too long one time and IMMEDIATELY impulse-cut it like Hunter did when he saw Caleb reflected back at him until Danny only sees himself and not Dan.

So Danny keeps his hair short (the longest he goes for is long enough for a short ponytail, and even that nearly sent him through several panic attacks every time he saw himself in the mirror when his hair was down before he cut it short again) He makes sure he maintains his lean, gymnast-like build (he claims it’s easier to make sharp turns while flying and manipulate his body in ghost form. His friends and Jazz know that’s an excuse for the real reason) He does as much as he physically can to avoid looking like Dan as much as possible for as long as he can, to avoid seeing his worst enemy staring back at him. Because while he may have changed his future, may outage Dan, may remain the hero instead of becoming the villain… he can’t avoid his own reflection and the promise it brings that he’ll always grow up looking like the monster he vowed to himself he would never become.

#dannyphantom #danny fenton #Dan phantom #dp fandom #This is literally just my take on adult Danny y��all so don’t be too mad at me #Still love long hair Danny tho #And he still takes after Jack in height #He just has a very lanky build

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