#<- applies to both ships

[twomanyfandomshelp]

I’ve been obsessed with the Hadestown musical recently, and last night while trying to fall asleep I had Wait For Me playing, and for some reason, my brain started combining it with the life series. The thought wouldn’t leave me alone, so I grabbed my computer and an hour later had this typed out. Enjoy the chaos of watching me slowly descend into madness and realize that this might not work as well as I wanted it to, but at that point, I was committed, so I just kept typing and ended up with this. This is directly copied and pasted from the Google Doc I created last night at 10 o’clock when I was supposed to be asleep lol

Joel as Orpheus and Lizzie as Eurydice (this is non-negotiable).

Grian or Scar as Hermes? Grian could be Hermes because Hermes is the narrator of Hadestown, and Grian is the founder of the life series. But Scar would be a good Hermes because of his scamming tendencies and general personality.

Ranchers as Hades and Persephone? Cause I feel like Tango fits Hades’ industrial vibe, and Jimmy could be a good Persephone character. Also, I just like this ship.

Another possible Hades and Persephone pairing is Etho and Bdubs. Etho, because of the redstone and also his very mysterious vibe. Bdubs because he’s covered in moss and idk just has kinda the same vibe as Persephone. Both relationships bounce between healthy and adorable to kinda toxic. Could provide some angst? Probably influenced by that one Hermicraft + PJO AU by @/ahllohehn tbh because their parents are Hades and Demeter in that, and there’s even a post making a joke about how their relationship in that could be compared to Hades and Persephone.

The Three Gs (Cleo, Scott, and Pearl) as The Fates (also non-negotiable, I love these three so much, and it just fits so well).

Are there even enough characters in Hadestown to fit all the life series characters? Or would a bunch of them just end up being background characters?

Other Redstoner characters could be the workers in Hadestown building the wall. Mumbo, Impulse, wherever Impulse is, Skizz has to be there too, so even though he’s not a redstoner, maybe he’s there to lift the heavy stuff, idk he’s always portrayed as really buff and an angel, so I’ve decided he gets to be dead with his friends, and then either Tango or Etho, depending on who’s Hades.

What about Martyn? Ren? Gem? BigB? And whoever is left after Hermes and Persephone are chosen. The other Hades would be taken care of by the workers, but what about Grian/Scar and Jimmy/Bdubs?

Fic? How could this be a whole fic? Wouldn’t it just be the story of Hadestown, but change the names? Can’t change the story much, the whole point of Hadestown is that the story is a tragedy, and Hermes knows this, but he keeps telling the story anyway.

Drawings? I don’t have the art talent for that. I still have the sketchbook app on my iPad, I could probably try to figure it out. Tracing?

Drawing of Joel and Lizzie in Orpheus and Eurydice’s costumes from the musical. Pose like that one dip from Rusty Courage’s Dancin’ video. I can picture it so clearly in my head, and I’m so frustrated because I know the second I start trying to draw it, it’s not going to come out how I picture it because I just don’t have the artistic talent for that. It sucks to have a super creative imagination that can create these beautiful images and then hands that refuse to translate the image to paper or screen or canvas or whatever. Sorry for the mini rant about my terrible art skills lol

I felt like the people of Tumblr should see this. Other people think about taxes before they fall asleep at night, I think about combining two of my obsessions and then grab my laptop and type everything out because I’ll be damned if I lose this great idea. Please either reblog this or send me an ask or put your thoughts in the comments; I want to know what y’all think, and am open to suggestions! Who do you think would be a better Hermes? What about Hades and Persephone? Are there any other characters that y’all can think of in Hadestown? Where would you put the other life series members that I couldn’t find a place for? Do you have any match-up ideas that I might not have thought of? That’s all, have a great day!

[afterthelambs]

"In another life I would have really liked just dancing and making inventions with you"

[sardinejar]

helloooo back with more 1633-725 art if anybody cares… Charles Leclerc thong-suit incident is a phenomenon that had every alpha in the nearby area acting up and needs to be discussed more..

[maskofnova]

🎶𝘐 𝘑𝘜𝘚𝘛 𝘊𝘈𝘕𝘛 𝘎𝘌𝘛 𝘠𝘈 𝘖𝘜𝘛𝘛𝘈 𝘔𝘠 𝘏𝘌𝘈𝘋🎶

(Actually really proud of how these turned out)

[killingdoll]

Liu Kang has 2 hands, just saying 🤭

[selfship-confession-box]

sorry if this is super passive aggressive sounding or ranty but As open as this community seems some of you are so misogynistic Like wlw and mlw selfships , if the self insert is a woman or fem presenting some of you people freak out , or if the f/o is a woman or fem presenting ! Someone on twitter had a very fem presenting genderfluid self insert and selfshipped with a character that is a bit on the fruitier side but nothing is canon And people went batshit because the artist was "forcing mlw on a gay character" when the self insert wasnt even a woman ??? just fem presenting ???? like in general you people need to learn she/her pronouns and being fem presenting doesn't mean woman . Certain tmascs still use she/her and present themselves as fem -- self inserts can be the same thing without the constant hate and misinformation?

also I noticed that wlw selfshippers just dont get as much attention as mlm or mlw in general and I think we all know why lol . im not an wlw selfshipper but my closest friends are and I honestly hate seeing my selfship get more attention than theirs when their art , lore and writing has so much more effort put into it ? but its ignored because its a wlw selfship like way to go guys .

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[notfernintheslighest]

we are so back

[quibbs126]

Okay one more thing, but consider:

Megatron/Starscream, but instead they just match each other’s freak

Like they’re both evil, and they attack each other, but instead of it being toxic workplace environment, it’s just like weird foreplay for them, they’re just into it

[euporie-art]

ive thought about this for a while but ive finally had 1 person agree w me on it so im going to share it even tho this is an art blog

i think the bond between kazuma and ryunosuke is supposed to mirror that of sholmes and mikotoba in some way? I feel like the idea of "these characters are inseperable partners" is very much hammered in with both of them by the narrative, and the case of sholmes and mikotoba, is supported by the general holmes mythos.

the idea that they'll always find eachother, that there may be other people that yeah sure they work fine with, but they'll always work best together, seamlessly as one being. i feel like that exists within both of them.

also, sholmes mentored ryunosuke, and mikotoba was a mentor to kazuma when he was younger. i feel like theres a better way for me to articulate this but im not very good at it. someone smarter than me could probably figure this out.

[colorfullyminded]

TLDR

Okay I cannot believe I'm about to go off like this, but this has been bothering me for awhile, and it's only making me more spiteful. I have been enjoying the influx of Billford art lately. Amazing, great wonderful. What I have Not been enjoying, is the absolute vitriol the Billdip fans have been getting since the influx of TBOB. I was a billdip shipper for awhile. Hell I was a billdip shipper when I was a Parapines shipper-- I liked shipping Dipper with boys. I was also like 14 or 15 at the time. Obviously, if you follow me now, you'll probably notice what my main ship for Dipper is. I grew out of Billdip, and moved on to Pinescone. I have been shipping Pinescone for 10 years. However, not once did I go around saying "Lol, glad I matured and became a better person and shipped something healthier", nor did I post in the billdip tag, condeming people for a fictional ship! And saying mine was better because it was less problematic.

"I'm really glad people stopped shipping Bill and Dipper together. Bill is a 1000 year old triangle demon, and Dipper is 13--" Stop. Repeat what you just said.

"Bill is 1000 year old triangle--"

Repeat that last word to me. "....triangle?" TRIANGLE! I'm sorry what?! This ship is already completely wild enough. You're getting mad at this fictional age gap-- AND BILL IS A FUCKING SHAPE! A FUCKING SHAPE! This ship was weird from the moment GO! And Billford isn't any better. IT'S STILL A SHIP WITH A FUCKING SHAPE! And you're going to sit on your high horse and look down on the Billdip community. On top of it-- they have an age gap too! Bill is still thousands of years old or whatever-- however long it's been, who knows? And Ford was in his 20s or so when he met Bill. That's still a huge, ridiculous age gap-- that Bill could easily use and manipulate; which he did....and then also caught feelings and became a sad ex, but that's beside the point~ Both of these ships are still insane. And again, the bigger thing I think people are just ignoring about these ships--is that Bill is a TRIANGLE! THREE LINES CONNECTED TOGETHER! And this is the hill you're going to die on? ...Cause apparently it's mine. First of all-- as many people pointed out-- Ford Pines did not exist until the second half of the final season. People couldn't ship Fordbill because there wasn't any Ford to introduce.

"Well, even before Ford, I never shipped Billdip! I always disliked it." ...Okay, that's totally fine. Not everyone needs to like or agree on the same ship. Lord knows there's probably people who don't really care for Pinescone either. There's a lot of popular ships that I can't stand. But I'm don't go into a ship tag I don't like, screaming to a void for self validation. I don't go around mocking other people for ships that they had in 2014-- or even still today! It doesn't matter! I did that when I was a kid-- and then realized that was rude, and it was better to just ignore the ships I didn't like and enjoy the ones that made me happy. And grow a community of kind, like minded friends. And listen, I am all for safe spaces and being able to block things that make you uncomfortable. I am not saying people who find the BillDip ship uncomfortable to be idiots or babies or overly sensitive-- or anything like that. I think if something makes you uncomfortable, that is okay and I think it's perfectly fine to blacklist a tag that you don't want to see. I also think it's imperative that people tag things as accurately as they can so people looking at your work can know if one of your pieces has a thing that they don't like-- and therefore can avoid. What I don't appreciate is the fanhate for this ship that is sprouting up like weeds. You can not like something, you can be disgusted by it (I have my Gravity Falls ships I can not stand, nor do I feel comfortable with), but attacking real people for a FICTIONAL SHIP-- two characters who are drawings on a piece of paper and can not be affected mentally, physically or emotionally by fanwork; who still retain the same shape after everything we put them through-- to the point that you send death threats, or threaten to Doxx, or just harass relentlessly, I have always found that more childish and disgusting. You are causing real world pain to people. Me fucking up Dipper Pines is not going to do anything to him-- because he doesn't actually exist. He's a cartoon character. I could squash him and stretch him in Wonka's taffy machine--- I could throw him mock speed at a wall and watch him explode on impact-- but he still exists. He's not dead; I can pick him up and dust him off, and If I wanted-- I could decide that eh, 'Not a scratch on him'. And I'd be right. Because he is a cartoon character, and I am just a fangirl. I can not change anything about him-- I have no ability to make anything I headcanon canon. And even if I was the original artist-- it doesn't change the fact that Dipper would still be nothing more than a creation. A construct of shapes; he can not be hurt or traumatized in a way that leads to real life consequences-- because he is not real. I am not a cartoon character. My friends are not cartoon characters. Artist and Writers who stay in their lane...are not cartoon characters. If you hurt us...it will linger. It will leave a scar. If you can not tell the difference between Fiction and Reality, then I think maybe media might be too much to handle-- and I think you need to really reevaluate yourself.

And just to vent some other things that i keep seeing that are frustrating: You can't claim the twins are only 13-- and then on August 31st go "Happy 20-something Birthday Mabel and Dipper!" And then proceed to drop a picture of them as adults. Well which is it? Do they age or not? Because Gravity Falls showed them canonically aging. If you think the twins age-- then you can't suddenly turn around and go, 'no you can't ship them-- Dipper is a child!' but you drew him as an adult. So sorry, it looks like you can't draw the twins grown up anymore. You claimed they're 13, so better draw them 13 forever--. Aged up stories and works exist for a reason, especially for a fan who grew up on the series. The characters might have grown up alongside them. It's not unlikely for a person to ship Billdip when Dipper is much older.

And on that note, for people who are like 'well older billdip is fine-- it's just people shipping him during the show that deserve to die.' Okay... and like I said, this rant is coming from a recent influx of Billford shippers spitting on Billdip shippers. You know? The TOXIC Old Man Yaoi!

You're still shipping something that is problematic. You are still shipping something twisted and wrong. And I am not judging you. I am here for this divorced arc. I am thriving. But you can't just pick and choose what is and isn't okay. And let me first off explain; if there is something that personally triggers you about a toxic ship, and you want to avoid that-- again, perfectly understandable. Perfectly reasonable. You are the makers of your content space. And I am not judging anyone for that. I want people to be safe. I want people to have a good time in fandom spaces. I want people to not have to deal with the things that upset them or frighten them, or disgust them. But you can not say one is fine, and one is not. They're both bad! They're both toxic. In real life, these ships would both be charged with serious crimes! And yes, there are some crimes that are worse than others, and if you asked me what I thought was more problematic-- I'd say Billdip-- but both of these ships are extreme, and severe in their problematic content. You are still consuming problematic content. If it's a personal thing, that's fine; avoid it. But don't sit there throwing stones from your glass house.

[dazeddoodles]

I love Huntlow but the fact that the only "straight" (I know they're bi/pan but people assumed they were straight) ship in this gay show with the least amount of screentime and development (this isn't an insult, they were literally introduced last after the show had already been canceled) instantly became the most popular ship is kinda sad to me.

I know it's partly just because it's the ship that involves Hunter and he's the most popular character. But the most popular character in a cast full of girls and women being the only (white) male character doesn't exactly make me feel better.

[sadiecoocoo]

Another reason to ship rexanidala/Rexwalker: canonically Anakin marries a literal queen. “Rex” means “king” in Latin. Anakin was made for royalty

[momentomori24]

This may just be me, but I think if you ship a canonically very abusive, manipulative and toxic relationship, you don't get to judge or call anyone degenerates for their own fucked up ships, actually.

[alicornze7]

Finally done with the other 2!

(tbh this is one of my favorite things I've done all year)

Doodle dump:

[marshmallowloves]

very specific f/o / selfship type I love: looks like they could kill and would kill, or even have killed. hardened, rough, strong, imposing, merciless, such a dangerous reputation that their mere presence strikes fear in the hearts of everyone who sees them... except you. they are so kind and tender and gentle with you, they make you feel safe with them, they take every precaution not to hurt you in any way. they are soft for you

[demetriandelibinaryboyfriends]

Absolutely underrated aspect of Season 6 is Demetri's bile fascination with Axel. Like I hate this guy so much that I'm going to re-create his exact likeness, down to every tiny detail, in a VR for the express purpose of teaching my friend how to best beat the shit out of him. I'm also going to pay obscenely close attention to every modicum of how he fights and ALSO put that in the VR--for tactical purposes, you understand, not because I enjoy studying the male body. Fuck this guy for real. He reminds me of a Marvel character famous for being scary and gay-coded and also of a literary character where people have been debating for 2 centuries whether or not he is a gay allegory. That's not wishful thinking, no, it's just an observation. You literally can't beat him. He's unstoppable. Why even try. He's practically superhuman. He's a minor god, even. Look at that height and those muscles and that roaring. Peak performance. I swear I'm not staring at his stupid invincible biceps that could snap me like a twig. I am horrified yet impressed at his ability to adapt to new fighting moves and adopt novel stances. Disgusting. I'm intrigued. Show me more. No, I don't have a tendency to get fixated on evil violent dudes who I've developed intense and personal beef with. I have no idea what you're talking about.

Demetri watches Axel much like one would watch Cats 2019. He's not enjoying anything he's seeing. In fact, it's actively causing him distress and misery. But by god, some sick, twisted part of his brain is thoroughly enraptured. And by god, he can't look away.