#(Just not specific to which of bioparents)

[bonebabbles]

Bonus Chapter: Adoption Continues To Be Bad

Enter: Sun Shadow. Moon Shadow's son, Tall Shadow's nephew.

He's out exploring because he's got "explorer blood" in his magic genes or whatever, and we're introduced to the fact that he's got a terrible relationship with his stepdad.

This is giving me proto-Nightheart vibes lmao. Which... listen. I'm allowed to have ONE bad take and be a Nightheart Liker, but MAN this plot point comes across really badly in the arc that says, "Bioparents are always more special than adopted parents, even if they were abusive"

So on one hand, I think the idea of a plot about an abusive stepdad and a wide-eyed, adventurous kid who escapes into fantasies about his idealized "Real Dad" would be a good one, I think it was a horrible idea for this arc specifically. These writers are not capable of handling this with nuance.

And this is emotional and physical abuse. Sharp Hail is horrible towards him, yelling that he has to go find him again, insulting him by calling him scrawny, Sun Shadow is anxious at the idea of going home and having to confront his stepdad.

The kid talks back, shouting that it's boring around here and he wants excitement, and Sharp Hail doesn't like that.

He gets beat by his stepdad and is compared to Moon Shadow on a constant basis. It's no wonder he clings to a fantasy of his long-lost-father and wishes he had been able to go with him.

Again... it sucks, because I think this would be interesting in a different arc. But I'm just thinking about the bitter taste in my mouth of how Gray Wing is NOT treated as the father of his kittens so hard that Tom the Wifebeater casts a magic spell or something which means his biochildren will see him as "their only option" after he gets their mom killed.

And then Tom the Wifebeater gets a redemption death lol.

this is just. Not the arc to be telling this story in.

[ana-cantskywalker]

IN ANOTHER LIFE AU PLEASE AND THANK YOU I haven't read the original fic for this one (yet) but I loved Light hehehe

Excellent choice! I honestly had a hard time with these because some of my 'fun facts' just turned out to be major spoilers for the next work lol.

I actually thought up the name for the name change from 'POV: You get abducted by a cute boy and his insane family' because I thought of a name for the fifth and final part and then worked titles for the rest of them off that. So basically they're all going to be In Another Life (Insert something witty/emotional specific to that part in parentheses). Thinking up a new name plagued me for DAYS.

Ezra in this one has a little more maturity and is a lot stronger in the force soley to the fact that instead of starting his training at 14 he started at seven and had occasional training from Ahsoka as well.

On that note Ahsoka has major Cool Aunt™ vibes which I am going to love playing around with. She teaches Ezra important Jedi stuff but also illegal stuff that Anakin taught her like how to hotwire a speeder when he was like nine (This stresses Kanan out to no end because he thinks he is way too young for those kind of shenanakins)

Now I MIGHT be wrong about this because SW timelines confuse me to no end however, (if I am correct) I had to kind of push Kanan and Hera's ages around a bit because Canonically Ezra's parents get taken the year before the evens of A New Dawn, and clearly Kanera had been working together for atleast a little while when they found him so I had to bump A New Dawn back a year and a half (two years?) and then make Hera two years older to put her back at eighteen, because putting a sixteen year old and a twenty year old in those situations makes me a little uncomfy honestly.

Ezra got really sick once when he was about ten, and in his fevered delirium he called Kanan 'dad'. He doesn't ever say it again, both because it makes him feel awkward and also he doesn't want to go on like Ephraim didn't exist because he still loves and misses his bioparents all the time. (this might be a oneshot one day but also this thoughts life may live and die soley in this post)

[imgoingtocrash]

Hi! Can you recommend some of your favourite pepperony fics feat. one pseudo spideyson ?😁❤️

Ohhh, twist my arm if you must. 😏 You know you came to the right girl, so I'll try my best while admitting some are more technically fitting the concept versus being Pepperony/Ironparents-to-Peter centric the whole time. I’m picky about fic, so the list isn’t as long as I wish it was. If you have more fics to rec in this area, feel free to reblog and add them!

You’re probably here because you’ve read my fic, which is just me writing all of the Pepperony + Peter into the world that I want, but if you haven’t read my stuff…I have it in spades. ☺️

the hearth by sagemb

In this one, we’re ignoring canon and having fun picturing a future where Peter’s about to go off to college, and hanging out with Peter for a weekend makes Tony realize that he and Pepper are actually pretty interested in having kids. It’s good and soft and healthy about couples therapy stuff with Tony and Pepper and I love it.

good kid name by rainwaiter

Pepper BioMom!AU where Pepper doesn’t NEED Tony to help her have the child she didn’t plan for, but he’s there and moony about her and loves Peter from the jump.

hydra's not a home (series) by tempestaurora

Not exactly news that this series is amazing, but it was one of the first Tony/Pepper-as-Peter's-bioparents fics I'd ever read in the fandom (honestly one of the first SERIES I'd read in the fandom) and will always have a special place in my heart.

[More under the cut!]

built from scraps (series) by peterstank

Probably also incredibly well known in the fandom, but a favorite of mine for always. The way this fic/series deals with so much and gets every part right will never cease to amaze me, particularly on the Peter and Pepper front. The way they're allowed to grieve and grow and become family in the first fic alone...*chef's kiss*

the gift of you (series) by MayWilder

Specifically boundaries of myself and epilogue are Pepper-Peter centric, but the whole series does a great job at establishing a closeness between the Starks and Parkers, and in doing so how they end up so close when Peter needs a guardian after May passes. (I'll admit I'm not a huge Parkner shipper, so I mostly read the gen fics in this series, but if that ship is your thing, that's an added bonus later!)

From the Mixed-Up Files of Ms. Virginia "Pepper" Potts by sturionic

I highly recommend the series that this is in as a whole—it’s funny and sweet until it gets angsty too, and it’s all a good read! But particularly I love this fic because there’s so much casual intimacy as the Starks and both Parkers grow into family, and even short scenes feel very alive and warm by being so descriptive.

the best day with you by tonystarktrash

Tony is Peter’s single dad and Pepper is his teacher, a fluffy trope that always hits perfectly written by an author I love. (Keep an eye out for their latest fic, which I predict will be incredible and is in the Pepperony + Peter vein.)

a first time for everything by crowkag

Peter is sick while under Tony’s care. Tony anxiously calls Pepper about how to handle it. He realizes he kind of likes this whole parental thing.

In the merry month of June (series) by Gruoch

I'm going to say this counts because Grandparents Pepperony gets me the softest. Pepper's here and wonderfully written and obviously adores Peter growing up and giving them a new baby to fawn over as much as Tony does. Pepper isn't a main focus here but rather part of the whole Stark-Parker-Jones family focus that's so, so present and adorable.

I Would Lay My Armor Down by losingmymindtonight

This fic is really about Peter in the Stark family as a whole, but it's so REAL and interesting in interpreting the future of that family dynamic--family dinners with Drama™️, sibling dynamics, Tony and Pepper growing old as the parents of said siblings...once again including on a technicality but I love it so much!!!

Thank you for the ask!!! I love making a nice rec list! I would also suggest looking at the other works of some of these authors—there’s definitely more Pepper buried in their other fics that I may have forgotten or just felt didn’t qualify for this list in particular!

[longsightmyth]

random Truthteller question: how old is Helan's daughter? and whats her relationship like with both her parents?

I think I said somewhere that Evalin Ashryver Galathynius (as opposed to Evalin Galathynius) is 6, but I do not have my notes with me unfortunately.

Relationships with parents who had you with the expectation of something (even parents who love you) is going to be complicated no matter what, but as conceived I'm not going to go too much into that in Truthteller. Helan specifically had Evalin as a fuck you to the king of adarlan and as a way to continue the legacy of the queens of terrasen and obviously Helan's parents specifically, as evidenced by the whole name thing. Helan did not have to pass on Ashryver to her child: that was her father's family name. It's Helan's choice specifically to change the ENTIRE royal family name to Ashryver Galathynius, which I am using to try to show how involved Rhoe was as a parent as opposed to, say, the king of adarlan. Even his non-bio kids have his name and use it (or would if they weren't in hiding) because they loved both their parents and were loved by them.

Which is going to be fun to explore in relation to Elena and Maeve's relationships to their parents, both the one they have in common and the one they don't. I did not do all of that by coincidence!

(Okay a couple of things are coincidental but the compare/contrast parenting is not)(I just didn't mean to FOCUS so much on it)

Anyway I grew up in a family of loving bioparents and loving stepparents, and I get tired of one or the other always being Bad. Some are bad. Some are good. Many are in between. I think showing the range is important.

And Gavriel and Helan are bros and platonic. Gavriel first agreed to help Helan have a kid because wow he'd never been propositioned like that, this is interesting! And then like. He had a tiny daughter and was like 'well. She's even more interesting! Look at her! She has tiny fingernails! I didn't know babies came with hats!' (Sorry for the west wing reference, I slipped). Anyway Gavriel is here because he and Helan are friends now and he has a daughter and that whole Situation is FASCINATING to him as a relatively young fae. Humans are pretty interesting to him in general (they keep changing wtf) but his daughter is Obviously The Most Interesting.

(He loves her very much and is her primary caregiver while Helan is off plotting rebellion)

[void-galaxy-shenanigans]

heyy 👋🏾

we were the ones earlier that asked about the food.

and it's pretty (super) cool that the whole liking cheese as a generally good food is relatable. - Mandy / Lila-Willow

also eggs! eggs are totally an agreed good breakfast food. eggs with rice specifically because proteins but also grainsss~ - Lilith ♡☆ / Soul

new question though:

What about clothes?

Does one of you decide who wears what and like what days and stuff or colours or patterns and such?? - Lilith ♡☆

For us we wear black because we more or less came to the conclusion that it's easier to not think so much about the colour. and then to just pick the style, dress, pants, skirts e.t.c based on whose in the mood to make that decision. - Debbie / Pilot

sorry for rambling, thanks for answering before~♡

signed,

Lilith and by extension The Peanut Gallery

((Semi unrelated but y'all are super sweet 😅 (/genuine)))

Yea! Cheese is a good food if you're not allergic to it 😅💖

If we need grains we usually have toast— rice is a texture we can only stand sometimes (sometimes it's just eck & we can't eat it). Especially since our bioparents try to pass off mock-rice made from cauliflower (which is a bad food that makes us get sensory overload) as real rice & get angry when we can't & don't want to eat it 😶

We usually decide what to wear based on who’s front day of & what we’re comfy with.

We have a lot of black, then there’s Lucca’s green shirt, William & Lucca’s “the books were better” green shirt, a few button ups that the Sides (Sanders Sides fictives) & William share, & then a couple blue shirts & our ¿heather?/very light blue “together we survived” shirt. (black ones) There’s “Not Today S-tan”, “in my defense I was left unsupervised”, “I hate it when the voices in my head go silent; I never know what they’re planning”, “I have multiple personalities and none of them like you” (we plan to (at some point) make our own custom versions with the art we shared earlier; “I have headmates but none of us like you” & “I have headmates & all of us like you”), & then there’s cat Bob Ross & the one covered in graphics that we dunno exactly what they are but they look cool & the emo kiddos like it.

We usually wear basketball shorts or PJ/lounge pants no matter who's front (but they'll still choose between blue or black shorts, or green/black/brown PJs, or black lounge pants), unless we have to go to work & then we'll wear denim jeans. The only exception is Virgil is a demiboy & he owns a galaxy print skater skirt (knee length, with pockets, does the power swoosh) that he'll wear sometimes.

Whether we wear necklaces, pins, earrings, etc. os entirely up to who's front & their comfort & euphoria/dysphoria (the body's demiboy but we have to tell the bios just boy because they don't get nb so if we do wear “feminine” anything dad gets all b!tchy that he thinks we're not trans (he's a narcissist who refuses to get help/heal)). If they're okay glaring down our bios &/or staying in our bedroom all day, they might wear those accessory things.

We usually think less about the colour & more about what's on it - patterns & words are a big deal. We love to match our mood & fronting crew with graphics & words that fit. & beyond that, whatever makes the fronting crew less dysphoric, more comfy, more euphoric, etc. is what we'll wear.

Rambles are completely okay! (& 100% relatable 😅)

We don’t get asks often if ever so we’ll always answer unless it’s (1) hate, (2) bigoted in some way (racist, sexist, transphobic, etc.), or (3) too uncomfortably personal (e.g., g*n*t*lia/genetic s*x questions, NSFW/p*rno questions). (One other uncommon exception - if you’re reaching out just happy to find another system & we reach out over messages instead so you stay anon/unknown to people who follow us & safe. That’s happened a couple times & we’ll just message so people can feel safe & we can still reply.) & if we don’t want to answer something that isn’t one of those 3-4, we’ll still answer it to say ‘hey please don’t ask us this & here’s why’ so you’ll get a response. 🤷‍♂️ We don’t bite 😅

~Nico, Carlisle, Shatter, Aiden, & blur (unknown whirl of other people)

[garbageivereleasedintothevoid]

02-02-19 (Saturday)

Idk how to explain this but straight people have such a wildly different view on intimacy than queer people do. Like no cishet I've ever spoken to has ever understood that me cuddling with my best friend isn't sexual. Like I'm just cuddling... We love each other but we're not IN LOVE with each other. Hell, neither of us have any interest in that whatsoever. They're MARRIED. I was in the wedding. I think they are a great match with their wife. They balance each other out. She makes them happy and that makes me happy.

I can't tell you how many cishets have been absolutely weirded out by learning that I cuddle with my best friend. They just don't get it. "Don't you start feeling... Something?" Besides safe and happy, no. Idk. It's like they think they're gonna catch me doing something idk. I just feel safe and happy with them. Hell, Grover and I do, too, sometimes. Not a lot because Grover gets overstimulated a lot, not because it's weird.

Idk. Platonic cuddling is one of the milder things queer people do that cishets hate. Telling your friend they're cute is a slight step up. Talking to your friends about your kinks is interesting to try and say you do. Most are absolutely revolted. It's hilarious. Queer are so much more open about things to each other. Legitimately. I've had full on conversations about kinks and how to not be an ass about them and actual sexual escapades they've had with queer people I barely know. Cishet people I have known for years will give me small talk about the weather. This is why I feel queerness is like family. We're so open with each other. And we stick together. We're who we can trust. We already kinda know each other even if we don't. And we can almost always recognize each other. Gaydar isn't perfect but it's a good indicator. And not everyone has it. But I do. I have predicted people's queerness before.

And I'm gonna be honest, I get a small queer vibe from you. Not like as explicit as I usually get so I interpret that as "Mostly hetero but with maybe a few exceptions if she wasn't already in a committed relationship (which makes a huge difference tbh)." But I could be wrong. Gaydar, like I said, isn't perfect and sometimes it confuses people who are willing to talk about sex/the intricacies of sexual attraction/sexual boundaries with you with queer people. I could be wrong but that's the vibe I get. I also have some backup evidence for that, though it's sll subjective. Your kid being queer is one of them. Kids with queer bioparents (whether or not they know the parent is queer is irrelevant) are more likely to be queer. You've made vague references to experimentation before meeting your husband. You've also made some comments that make me believe you have some attraction to a specific woman. You don't have to acknowledge this or tell me anything. You owe me nothing on the subject. And if this isn't something you actually feel comfortable talking about to me, you should feel NO obligation. Just so we're clear. Also I think a lot about "What if *random person* is actually queer and either closeted/doesn't know it yet?" It's definitely not just you. So this is a common occurrence for me and not just a thought I had about you, I swear and I would be completely surprised if it wasn't a common thing for other queer people to think about as well. We always... We always think about how many of us there are. We wonder because there's no official count/statistic beyond the like 3.5% figure that I truly feel greatly lowballs how many of us there are. I really feel like we're at least 20% or more if the population. Also it's very difficult to get an accurate ciunt because the closet is still VERY necessary for many of us. I saw a post btw about that actually and it articulated a thought I'd been trying to summarize for a while.

That. That is something I think about a lot. I value happiness. Safety is great but if I'm not happy, what's the point? If I'm miserable and want to die, who cares if I'm safe. This is also why I felt better after becoming homeless. Because I wasn't being restricted as to what I could be anymore. Everything, every single decision about my life rested in my hands. I admit, I went a bit apeshit with the finding happiness thing. Went a bit too hedonistic and not enough responsibility but everyone has that, right? Everyone has that moment. But the difference is that most people's moments were like "I can have candy for breakfast and no one can stop me." Which is an appropriate reaction to being like 18 and livjng alone for the first time when your parents only exerted a healthy amount of control. But when every aspect of your life was controlled and your privacy repeatedly violated and disregarded, becoming a hermit who blows money on fast food whenever they get it (that's what I was in 2015) isn't as drastic as it would initially seem. I felt kinda drunk with power over my own life. And it's natural that I'd make some questionable decisions about it when I had the first instance of control I'd had in 22 years. I learned though. I don't eat out nearly as much as I would have in 2014 if I got $771 a month. I don't just stay in my apartment all the time enjoying the solitude (admittedly have been staying inside a lot more lately but it's been like 2° outside and people have been kinda draining for me lately.) For weeks on end. I don't take midnight strolls through neighborhoods I don't know for fun (because it occurred to me that no one could stop me. I was like "There's nothing to stop me from just walking around at midnight. No shelter worker threatening to kick me out. No parents trying to tell me I'm just using them. Nobody. I can just leave and never come back if I wanted to." I didn't have anywhere else to go... But if I HAD, I can't guarantee I wouldn't have just gone.) But it's a weird thing to realize the entire world has opened up to you now that your parents kicked you out. It's such an unexplainable feeling. I don't get it.

[badsithnocookie]

Does Eirn ever want/have kids?

i will let you in on a secret anon: Eirn is acutely terrified of pregnancy and childbirth. there are a number of reasons for this, but chief among them is that her mother’s pregnancies were all incredibly difficult - she was hospitalised for all of them, and as a child, Eirn lived with an aunt from her father’s side of the family for the better part of a year while her mother was recovering from having her sister. Eirn doesn’t know the specifics and has always told herself she’ll find out more if it ever looks like she’s going to have kids, but mostly she uses that as an excuse to avoid talking/thinking about it. but the upshot is that she grew up with a ton of negative associations with it, and is (irrationally, baselessly) convinced that the exact same thing will happen to her.

(readmore cause this got long, apologies)

between the Empire’s general lower population & the high mortality rate of Sith, i’ve always hc’d that Imperial women (and particularly Sith women) are under immense pressure to have children, and lots of them, which makes Eirn want to dig in her heels and refuse to on principle. she’s at least self-aware enough to realise that’s her being contrary for its own sake, and this is hardly good reason to not have children, but part of her will always be that way.

she hasn’t ever had That Particular Talk with Quinn, and i’m not honestly sure how it would go. Quinn has always struck me as the type who is very enthusiastic about having children/being a father, even if he’d equally be an ‘oh god it’s a tiny person wat do’. certainly he’s happy about the idea in the comp conv (at least, he is if he’s been romanced. if not i think he’s a combination of weirded and grossed out.)

raising children is another matter altogether, ofc. it’s not something that she’s ever put much thought into (whenever the issue of kids rears its head, her brain just gets stuck on the part where it’s noping at the thought of pregnancy), but certainly if officer!Eirn ever got out from under the thumb of Sith, there’s a good chance she’d dedicate at least a chunk of her life to tracking down and caring for/helping Force-blind Red Sith children abandoned by their bioparents above having sprogs of her own. it’s a cause more immediately personal to her than to Wrath!Eirn, but it’s still an idea that would appeal to Wrath!Eirn.

how receptive their partners would be to it is another question. this is even more the case if she (in either incarnation) actually sat down and thought about it long and hard and realised that actually? the Empire is ?? not really the sort of place she’d want to raise a child??? regardless of whether that child is Force-sensitive or not, but doubly so if they’re a rescued Force-blind Sith child. she’s got first-hand experience of growing up as a Force-blind Sith in the Empire, and it wasn’t pleasant. add in the fact that she’s an unapologetic heretic and would have no desire for any child she’s responsible for to have to go through what she has would make it an uh. interesting. discussion.

tl;dr

does she want them the traditional way? hell no. she’s more open to the idea of adopting, or would be if the idea were floated, but it would depend a lot on her personal circumstances (and how far up their own asses her partner-at-the-time’s head was jammed)