#911 on fox discourse

[kitkatpancakestack]

You expressed perfectly how I miss buddie, and how the lack of them doesn’t make me enjoy s6 as I should. And I know it’s not the buddie show, it’s an ensemble cast etc… but their relationship is one of the most important on the show, seeing it disappear in s6 had made me really sad, I just hope we’ll get more of them in 6b, but honestly I’m not sure, people saying that even 5a was like this, but well nope, 5a had amazing long buddie scenes

Absolutely, I mean there's a reason engagement with 6a has probably felt lackluster. Love it or hate it Buck and Eddie's relationship is a mesmerizing facet of the show that draws a lot of people in.

And you're right about 5a, it gave them the blackout scenes, the balcony scene, the hostage scene, etc.

9-1-1 has been my favorite show since it started airing, so obviously I love all the characters, they're very close to my heart. But character dynamics are really what get me (and a lot of others) tuning in week to week, not the emergencies, bc it's a show about the characters and they are so well fleshed out. So it's perfectly fine to admit this! There is no shame in saying the season falls short for you bc of this! Erase the idea that being a buddie shipper is some major transgression in the eyes of the fandom that you have to hide or overcompensate for! Lack of a ship dynamic is the reason I frankly cannot stand 5a, bc Chimney is my favorite character and Madney is another couple where their absence is so strongly felt that it changes the viewing experience for me. A similar thing is happening with Buck and Eddie in 6a, even though neither of them are gone, but their scenes are not as frequent as they maybe should be and/or not as emotionally satisfying.

I'm eager to see what they do in 6b, bc I also do think Buck's storyline will play a major role with the potential for some excellent scenes with Eddie. We will see!

[imakatperson22]

Them: Wait, so, you think Tommy’s closet joke was actually hysterical and made you love his character even more instead of hating him?

Me:

[nymika-arts]

just been seeing some posts today

[mazzystar24]

Okay I know I said I’d vibe and ignore the fandom discourse but the amount of Eddie hate lately???? LIKE ITS LEAKED THROUGH TO AO3 COMMENTS THATS HOW MUCH THERE IS OF IT

Istg I will fight in a minute (I say as I block and move on)

Like fr tho these people will have enough understanding and empathy to understand that other characters did/said bad things because of what they were going through at the time (bobby in s1 and in lawsuit era, Buck in lawsuit era, chimney when Maddie ran away, etc) but the man who lost his wife, nearly lost his kid in a tsunami, has to deal with said kid’s trauma as well as his own, felt abandoned by his best friend at that time (felt is the operative word I actually get buck in the lawsuit era tho- don’t make me make a whole lawsuit era post- or do) all in the span of what a year?

God forbid HE says and does some things that were bad/hurtful

Seriously where is the logic here? The cognitive dissonance it takes to empathise with the others but not him is fascinating

[winchester27]

Also can we just take a moment to acknowledge the way Buck says “I am free”

BECAUSE THAT WAS INTENTIONAL LIKE YES YOU ARE BABY GO LIVE YOUR BEST LIFE

[charliewrites99]

Not liking a ship and explaining why you don't like it isn't toxic for fuck's sake.

Hoping your ship "wins" also isn't toxic.

We call every disagreement in the fandom shipping war. And even if it is so FUCKING WHAT??!!

There are always going to be sides taken. Fighting about what is better. And I am so sick of the whole "multishipping exists!!"

Yes WE KNOW!!

But a lot of people can't do it.

I hate when fandoms go too far with threats and insults and putting eachother down too. I really do. I can't stand when people badger creators and actors about their prefered side.

But if someone hates the ship and explains why or is pissed that it went canon and then rants in their own tag or on twitter whatever, that is not inherently toxic!

Almost everyone gets caught in a shipping war from time to time.

I try to stay away from it, but sometimes I slip.

I was a BIG sylkie hater in season 1 of Loki. There were trenches dug.

Not Sylvie hater SYLKIE hater. You are allowed to hate a ship down to your very core. It does not make you toxic.

Toxic would be going out of your way to attack people. Toxic is saying everyone who ships something is a horrible person because xyz.

People think ship war they think zutara vs kataang.

Most "ship wars" are barely ship squabbles.

[angstydiaz]

911 fandom be normal about women challenge

[stagefoureddiediaz]

I really really hope Oliver has seen some of the incredible and positive reactions and posts here on Tumblr and on other social media.

It makes me so sad to think he’s been bombarded with negative stuff about something he worked so hard on and clearly put so much of himself into, when there are so many of us out here who thought that episode was incredible and thought his acting was off the charts good.

Oliver if you have a secret Tumblr account I hope you know that most of us are decent human beings who think you’re incredible and feel privileged to get to watch you bring Buck to life!

[h-c-l-p]

Ngl I’m really happy about how Eddie reacted. He did scream Bucks name and go to rescue him, but he went into action mode lowering Buck and then driving the ambulance. I’m really happy to see that they stayed pretty consistent with how Eddie has been characterized in the past. He is not the type to be rendered incompetent by a stressful situation, therapy is not going to (and shouldn’t) change who he is at his core.

[imakatperson22]

I know that the “Buckley Diaz family” has been a term for years in this fandom but I’m going to be brave and tell you one of my pretty controversial headcanons:

If Buck and Eddie ended up together and eventually got married, Buck would change his name and be Evan Diaz.

Considering how awful his parents were to him, I don’t think keeping the name “Buckley”, a name his parents gave him, is a super high priority for him. I think he’d rather have the name of the love of his life and literal son than the name of the people who hurt him so badly. I think at that point in his relationship he’d identify more with the Diaz name.

I also think it would be a little funny when he would introduce himself to someone he’s just met like: “Evan Diaz, but everyone calls me Buck.” And whoever he meets always just looks a little confused like “Why is that his nickname?”

[rogerzsteven]

Off My Chest

I don't know if you know (at this point I'd be surprised if you don't), but I've been living hell for the past 4 days.

Two big earthquakes hit ten cities of Turkey on 6th of Feb, 4.17 am (one city being the city I live in and one being my hometown + where my relatives and family friends live), and the aftermath is devastating to say the least.

I am hurt, I am tired, I am mentally exhausted, I am upset, I am scared and sad and always on edge in case something happens.

Some of my relatives lost their homes, some of my aquaintances, family members, friends lost their lives, and there are thousands, thousands of people still stuck under the rubble, either dead or waiting for someone to find them under the rubble.

If, they are able to be found.

My hometown is dust. The places I've spent my childhood no longer exist. Everything is wrecked.

The supplies aren't enough, the weather is freezing and help is too slow.

Death toll is more than 16,000 and rising, and at this point I can't help but to think I was just at the right place at the right time and it was luck.

When I first started reblogging those donation posts about Turkey, I had high expectations of the possible traction in general, but mainly of the fandom I'm currently in. I thought this fandom was in unity when I used to see blogs, many blogs reblogging the posts of the ones in rough condition asking for help, whether it's individual or for a good cause. Because that's what fandom means, right? A community to support and lift each other up on good and bad days. To show that we are there for each other even if it's through the screen.

I was wrong.

I was not expecting the immense lack of support from the fandom that is supposed to be big, helpful and full of 'activists'.

Not only have I barely seen donation/support posts appearing on my dash from people I follow or my mutuals, but the ones I've seen are reblogged from me by the same handful of people over and over again.

Don't get me wrong, no one is obligated to reblog or show support, life goes on and people move on, but isn't it hypocritical when the same blogs who are very much outspoken and active and even accuse others of staying disinterested when it comes to fandom discourse or situations that have direct impact on them in one way are now completely silent and act like nothing is happening when it comes to something like this?

My people are DYING. And you care about— what, polls? Fandom speculations?

Good for you.

Is it too much to reblog a few times so others can see it? Would your blog's aesthetic get ruined?

Or do you just not give a shit and only show your performative side when it gets you likes and followers?

I see all of you, and I will not forget this.

I don't think I will post donation posts as frequently as I did before from now on because I want to feel some sense of normalcy on tumblr but before I go, since there is a handful of mutuals/ online friends who kept reblogging my posts, I would like to thank them individually from the bottom of my heart.

@monsterrae1 @swiftiediaz @buddierights @prettyboybuckley : You guys. The support you guys have shown from day one. Every day. I love you. You pure souls.

@kananjarus : You. YOU. I have no words. I want to cry just thinking about what you've done. No words are enough.

@copyninjakura : You are a good hearted person. I love you. Thank you for your constant check ins and reblogs.

@rxdscarf : Not once you've let me down. 5+ years of friendship and I am so grateful. I am lucky.

@skyhighrollins911 : You've always been there to see how I am and how things are. Thank you, I love you so much.

@stagefoureds : Sabahın köründe beni telefonla aradın ya, sen muhteşem bir detaysın.

@bievanbuckley : The Greek to my Turk, ben seni sevdiğimi dünyalara bildirdim.

@ricoka : You're not in the fandom, but thank you my girl.

@spotsandsocks & @the-likesofus : Thank you for being concerned about me.

@buddiefication : We've been following each other for what— days? You don't even know me, and yet you kept reblogging each post from day one. I am so thankful. Thank you, friend.

@alyxmastershipper : Again, from day one, you kept reblogging each support post. THANK YOU.

@jobairdxx @swiftiebuckleys @mandzuking17 @thebestbooksaround @allysghostinthemachine @scifiromance7 @daughterofbuddie @maybeicanbesaved @colonoscopys @verylazyanimal : Thank you for reblogging many times.

[mazzystar24]

How I’m approaching the fandom atp:

[mellaithwen]

adsjkjsdj every single bad take I've seen and heard is from people literally misunderstanding the assignment fact that the whole coma!dream is from the POV of an unreliable narrator.

NOT because Buck is unreliable as a person, but because it's nOT his conscious thoughts that are in charge! Your subconscious lacks the same awareness that your conscious mind has. There's less nuance! No shades of grey! But that's the whole point. You're supposed to see that, and think harder.

The perfect example is when Daniel makes a quip about his parents not remembering that he exists when his parents are fussing over Buck after his "ladder fall"

On the surface you could think "okay, Daniel is a bit of a dick."

But remember Daniel doesn't exist. and Buck went 30 years without knowing about Daniel because his parents pretended he didn't exist.

The passive aggressive tone that Daniel has in that moment? Is one we've literally seen Buck use himself when he's hurting (he even does it in the argument in 4x04!). And we know Buck has a fraught relationship with his parents - we've seen from his childhood that things weren't perfect - his subconscious knows that too so Daniel represents that slightly more acidic tone that's being used.

& this isn't even a true deep dive! Mostly because I refuse to put my academic hat on before 10am, but the thing you have to bear in mind throughout the episode is that every single person we see in the coma!dream is a manifestation of Buck's for better or for worse.

[charliewrites99]

It's kind of crazy that I don't care more about bucktommy as a couple. Because when they kissed I was really excited, but now I just feel the same as with eddieana or eddieandmarisol or bucktaylor ect ect.

So just kind of like...ok? I guess. Sure. This is happening.

Like whoohoo bi buck but other than that idk sort of feel nothing.

And I want to like them, I really do, because I see all these people wax poetic about them but I feel the exact same way I felt when people waxed poetic about Taylor and Buck.

A lot of people probably don't remember but there was a whole subsection of fans that said: Oh if Buck and Eddie don't end up together I hope it's bucktaylor endgame.

And I just looked at that and went...why??

This is about the same I feel about bucktommy.

Maybe I am just unable to multiship which has always held me back not gonna lie. I sort of latch on.

[cowgirleddiediaz]

Look, I’m gonna say it, the way some people are talking about the 911 writers right now is kind of ridiculous . “This would’ve been a terrible series finale”, like no shit?? But it also seems pretty obvious that they were trying to wrap everyone’s arcs up at the last minute because they didn’t know what was happening with the renewal/move. Which probably explains why s6 has some of the best moments in the show but it feels like those moments are held together with duct tape and spit. Because, yeah it’s very odd to set up an elaborate couch metaphor and then ‘resolve’ it with a woman who’s had 10 minutes of screen time total. Deeply odd. See also: Eddie telling Buck not to date someone from a call and then doing that himself 3 episodes later. Or having a b-plot in the finale about a woman stepping up for her dead best friend’s daughter, i.e the thing Buck would have to do if Eddie died, but it having no relevance to anything. Like even Buck’s clear heartbreak at having to hand over the sperm donor baby being resolved in >5 minutes. These are all odd and disjointed choices, that scream last minute rewrite. And it’s okay to be disappointed by that, but that doesn’t mean the writers are vindictive bitches who are inherently terrible at their jobs.

Like, I promise you, none of these people are out to get you, most of them are probably overworked and underpaid at the best of times (ya know, the whole on strike right now thing) and a messy will-they-won’t-they renewal is not that. TV production is just like this sometimes. So maybe instead of crucifying the writers we can take a step back and go “yeah, this must’ve sucked for them” (both creatively and not knowing if they’d have a job in 6 months) and offer a smidge of grace to the people who entertain us week after week?

[loserdiaz]

you can keep saying "buck picked the wrong couch again! so what?" tell youre blue in the face but considering this was supposed to be a series finale and how kristen saw fit to end things.... that argument doesnt hold a ton of weight.

yeah but considering they thought they wouldn't get another season, im happy with the ep.

i rather have an open ending for buddie and see everyone fix it on fanfiction that have buddie going canon and being a rushed thing. i rather have buck picking the wrong couch and eddie asking incest girl on a date that have them being rushed.

like??? i want eddie to explore his sexuality, to come to terms with his own identity not only bc is in love with buck but also for himself, bc he might be a queer latin man (how many of those do we get in media?), i want to see him work through it and accept himself and let himself free. o want to see that BEAUTIFUL character exploration and i WANT the slow burn. i want them to be careful with each other and gentle like no one else has been with them.

do you think we could've gotten that in the last ten mins of an episode?? bc i don't. it would've been a disservice and ppl would've find a reason to be mad anyway.

so whatever, die mad about it. idk what you want me to tell you.