#PLL Chat

[sequenceofmind]

Pretty Little Liars 3x14 (2010-2017) Mona & Jason

[foreternitysblog]

We need some more beautiful faces here! Bonus points if you can write Jason Dilaurentis 😂 I’ve been searching for a Jaria thread forever. Chats kind of quiet but don’t let that stop you, we have amazing people to write with and we’re all extremely patient and easy going.

[bronze-and-silver-keys]

question for ghost au

Sense Chiaki can see the ghost/spectators can she essentially kind of know who the next blackened is because of they ( most of the time )being around their killer? Hell, I bet some of them would even talk to each other too. Would she hear that too? ex: nekomaru and gundham were on good terms so do you think nekomaru would stay by gundham and chat a little even if it’s one sided Yk sense you can’t really be talking to a ghost while other pll are around and you’re trying to find out who killed the man

idk if you already clarified this or not I just think it’s interesting that Chiaki can see the ghost

Man I wanna draw more of this honestly. It could be so funny with her just witnessing their shenanigans.

During a chapter, after the victim is killed but before their killer is punished, Chiaki cannot see the victim's ghost that chapter! The only person who can see them is still going to be their killer, even in the NWP

[glowettee]

✧ if i’m so dramatic, why am i always right? ✧

✦ intuition vs gaslighting ✦

hi lovelies, it’s mindy 🌷🕯 i’ve been off tumblr for a few days, things have just been really overwhelming lately, and i needed a little breather. but writing always brings me back to myself. it’s my favorite kind of comfort. the glowettee x pll series has seriously been such a joy to create… every post, every idea, every digital piece for my gumroad has been healing in its own way. this next post is something close to my heart. it’s about gaslighting... something i’ve experienced a lot, especially from people i thought i could trust. it’s such a common thing, but so many of us don’t realize it’s happening until way later. i used to second-guess my intuition constantly because people convinced me i was being “too much.” but every time… my gut was right. so i wanted to write this to help you tell the difference between real intuition and someone twisting it. if you’ve ever felt that quiet confusion or started to doubt yourself after talking to someone, this post is for you. i hope it brings clarity. and softness. and maybe even a little validation if you’ve been there too. - mindy 🤍🩰

sometimes i wonder if girls like us were born with a sixth sense or if we just got so used to being hurt that our bodies evolved. hyper-awareness as a survival trait. intuition as our most sharpened weapon. people love to call it being “dramatic,” but let’s be honest... i was right every time.

𓆩♡𓆪

❝ if you’re so emotional, how come your instincts always come true? ❞ they never have an answer to that, do they?

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✧ the 'dramatic' girl dilemma

there’s a reason why every group chat has a girl they secretly call “too much.” the one who always has a weird feeling. the one who picks up on tone shifts and changes in energy and tiny inconsistencies like it’s her full-time job. she’s the one who says, “this doesn’t feel right,” and gets labeled a buzzkill. the killjoy. the overthinker.

but i’ll let you in on something i had to learn the hard way: they only call you dramatic when they don’t want you to notice what’s really happening.

girls like us don’t get the luxury of being chill. we’re watching. always. we had to learn to be. we’re the first ones to feel the shift in a friend group dynamic. we clock the fake laugh. the silence in the hallway. the DM left on read. and when we bring it up? “you’re imagining things.”

they say "you're too sensitive" like it's a flaw. like feeling deeply makes you unreliable. but being sensitive never meant being wrong. it just meant you felt the betrayal before it became undeniable.

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✧ trauma turned my gut into a siren

there’s something about growing up being ignored, bullied, overlooked, or manipulated that turns your whole nervous system into a radar. suddenly, you’re the girl who notices everything.

like, i still remember being 14 and realizing that one of my friends always laughed at my jokes in front of boys, but never when it was just us. or how she'd call me pretty but then immediately ask if i was wearing makeup. subtle stuff. stuff that sounds dumb when you say it out loud. stuff that makes people go, “you’re reading too much into it.”

but i wasn’t. i never was. that’s the exhausting part.

emotional intelligence feels like a superpower until it starts to drain you. like being psychic, but without the option to turn it off. you don’t just read the room, you analyze it, archive it, cross-reference it with past data.

i used to hate this part of myself. now i know it kept me alive.

you’re not paranoid. you’re perceptive. there’s a difference.

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✧ you knew, even when it didn’t make sense

sometimes your body knows things before your brain catches up. your heart races before he lies. your stomach drops before the betrayal hits. you get that pit-in-your-stomach feeling and then brush it off, until the truth slaps you a week later.

trust me, i’ve been there. i once had a gut feeling that a friend was turning people against me... but there was no proof. just a weird energy. until one day, someone accidentally sent me a screenshot that wasn’t meant for me. and suddenly the feeling made sense.

they call it “bad vibes.” i call it early intel.

start decoding the patterns:

the too-long pause before answering your question

the “i didn’t mean it like that” when you call it out

the subtle digs framed as compliments

the way people say your name when they think you’re not listening

you noticed for a reason. trust the noticing.

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✧ what gaslighting actually feels like

gaslighting doesn’t always sound like “you’re crazy.” sometimes it sounds like “you’re overreacting,” or “you always assume the worst,” or “why do you make everything a problem?”

but the worst kind of gaslighting is the kind you do to yourself. when you feel the red flags and immediately shut yourself down. when your first instinct is right, but your second thought is “i’m just being dramatic.” that’s emotional self-betrayal. it hurts. a lot.

i once told a guy that something felt off, he’d been cold, weird, distant. he said i was insecure. i said sorry. two weeks later, i found out he’d been seeing someone else the whole time. lesson learned: don’t apologize for what your body already knows.

you can’t logic your way out of a feeling that was never lying to you in the first place.

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✧ intuitive doesn’t mean irrational

“dramatic” is just a word they use to discredit girls who are too emotionally accurate to manipulate.

your feelings are data. emotions are not the opposite of intelligence, they’re the early warning system. they tell you what’s not being said. they tell you what the energy in the room is doing. they tell you the truth before the truth shows its face.

what if you’re not “too much,” what if you’re just always one step ahead?

what if the real problem isn’t that you feel too deeply, but that you feel accurately, and that makes people uncomfortable?

i’m reclaiming the word dramatic. to be dramatic is to see danger before it arrives. to feel something shift before it collapses. to be emotionally clairvoyant. and i think that’s beautiful.

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✧ how to protect your knowing

your intuition deserves protection. here’s how i keep mine sacred:

✧ journal your gut feelings ~ even if they don’t make sense yet. time-stamp them. track patterns. ✧ make a screenshots folder ~ for receipts, subtle shifts, digital clues. memory gaslights too. ✧ create a ‘weird vibes’ note in your phone ~ no explanation needed. if something feels off, log it. ✧ meditate or walk after intense conversations ~ let your body process what your mind can’t yet. ✧ check in with your inner child ~ would 13-year-old you trust this person? she knows. always.

𓆩 ritual for the emotionally haunted 𓆪 › write down a time you were right, but told you were wrong › throw it away, or rip it up › whisper “i trust myself now.” › repeat every time the world tries to confuse you.

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✧ you weren’t crazy, you were correct, and ahead

they’ll tell you you’re crazy until the moment you’re proven right. they’ll call you dramatic until the danger becomes undeniable. they’ll gaslight you until the truth surfaces, and then pretend they never doubted you at all.

the girls who trust themselves become the women no one can lie to. so feel everything. sense everything. believe yourself.

being dramatic is how you survived the world they tried to confuse you in.

and if you’re always the first to notice the danger, maybe it’s not a flaw. maybe it’s your gift. maybe it’s what will save you.

✧ love always, mindy

[dragons-bones]

Yoshi-P, sir

what the fuck is Solar Bahamut

where did it come from

when did it come from

why I am junctioning it to Synnove's soul and her carbuncles

why the fuck does its big blasting attack leave behind Hydaelyn's crystal of light arcane circle

I need one fucking job quest explaining this shit Yoshi-P!!!!

Some of the yelling from SPACE chat today while we watched the PLL:

ONE

FUCKING

SUMMONER JOB QUEST

PRETTY PLEASE.

[aforanonymousaforaria]

She was scary and temperamental, always judging and watching for the next secret to hold over someone’s head. She could never just be friends with someone, equals, she always had to have the upper hand. Outsmart them and make them feel small. That’s how I felt. I know it’s how Hanna felt. Tobey, Mona, all of us. Alison shrunk us down to size and then stepped on us. She was always stepping on us. I’m still here bitches, and I know everything. -A Even from beyond the grave, in death. Alison was screwing with us she was using us like puppets. Forcing us to commit awful acts or backing us into corners. She wanted to turn what remained of her friend group against each other. Wanted to turn the whole town against us. I should’ve known we wouldn’t have peace even if she was dead and buried properly. And it’s why I don’t feel anything when saying that there is no shortage of people who wanted Alison gone. People who’d pay good money or risk it all to make it happen. I would be a liar if I didn’t admit that sometimes I would lie awake at night hoping she fell off the face of the earth. I got what I wanted. But it wasn’t enough. I honestly can’t say if I was happy or disturbed by the news of her disappearance, maybe it was both. Maybe because I both envied and loathed Alison all while admiring and loving her I couldn’t quite place the emotions I felt. Some days I cried myself to sleep. I thought about how scared she must’ve been and how twisted you’d have to be to harm a girl so young. I thought about the kind of monster someone would have to be. But I thought even more about what awful thing Alison could’ve done to make someone so desperate as to do this. It could’ve been any number of things, any secret she levied against them, and from personal experience I know just how crushing the weight of an Alison DiLaurentis ultimatum could be. So yeah, a lot of people wanted Alison dead, I’m sure. She had tortured, tormented and bullied both her peers and elders alike into submission. The list was just too long and I’m certain even her own family made that list. And whoever had wanted her dead, now wanted to make us suffer as well. That first message, really made us think maybe Alison was alive and tormenting us for her own sick pleasure. She was known to pull an elaborate prank or two at our expense. But something told me it wasn’t Ali. But someone who knew all of the same dark secrets and truths about us and everyone else in town as her. Someone with Ali’s cunning and attitude but far more dangerous. Someone who wanted to take us all down, ruin our lives and possibly subject us to the same fate as Ali.

Pretty Little Liars

This is a soft reimagining of the series by the same name. It will be heavily book and show inspired but also canon divergent. The main story will remain intact with a major plot twist. It will also play out much like a tv series with a season long storyline that changes each season. We will accept OCs alongside the canon muses but please remember that our canons, especially the main PLL cast must be claimed before throwing in more OCs. We do hope you enjoy your stay here and please have fun!

[the-pretty-little-comics]

First couple pages of the PLL comic book. I’ve been using chat GPT to work out the images and adding text in myself. If I get past the first episode I’m going to be changing the story line. Should I continue?

[wigalita]

hellooo !! ˚ʚ♡ɞ˚

hi guys this is my stupid (secret) tumblr that i like to use to get away from everyone in my life (that's a problem i know) but here i am !!

★ a little about me : major teenage fangirl !! im a gemini , a firm believer in the universe and astrology (sorry if thats annoying), i love crystals , crying , sleeping , and diet coke , im a lesbian (?? still figuring it out) im also probably chronically online (even though i like to say im not) , i play the guitar and write occasionally ,

★ interests : musiccc !! (chappell roan , renee rapp , ethel cain , lana del rey , lorde , muna , clairo , conan gray , the 1975) + more the list goes on and on and if you want to talk about an artist i probably do like them there's not many genres i dislike besides country , i love pll + gossip girl , and im trying to read more as well so please send some book recommendations !

bmf / mutuals ! i love to talk to people and i think everyone on this app is automatically cool so dm or comment id love to chat :)

!!! sorry if there's any spelling and / or grammar problems in this - english isn't my first language but i'm always trying to get better !!!

[brunettebombshellmwah]

♤Welcome to my blog♤

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My fav-movies/shows:Clueless,Pretty little liars,Gosipp girl,mean girls

-songs:hapiness is a butterfly,lilith,highschool sweethearts,desire,flawless,your girl,cola,fmwuttt,cherry and probably more

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If you relate to my content follow me💋

Dms are open angels,but NOT for creepy menn

[littleliarsrp]

Looking for rp partners for my new PLL discord rp. All roles are open. Would love Aria, Spencer, Hanna, Emily, and Ali!

[evildjpachipikachu]

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#skool sux / sksx tmnt - my personal tmnt iteration !!!!!! you want to check it out so bad oooooOOOoooooo you want to go see lesbians oooooo. there are trans people! (said like a presidental campaign slogan) #sleepy talks shit - text post tag where i just spout fuckin nonsense

[jaggedwolf]

pll original sin girls ranked by most to least likely to know what yaoi is

Mouse - the most online. canonically a discord user. absolutely knows

Tabitha - has a one-track mind obsessed with horror movies, but god, she's not uncultured, okay?

Noa - spent a lot of time bored at home because of the ankle monitor. canonically used the word "ship" in casual conversation.

Imogen - does not at the start of canon. she's been very busy with being a Popular Girl TM and then some major life changes! will find out what yaoi is from Tabitha but then will be swiftly treated to a film theory lecture about homosexuality in horror movies, thanks Tabby.

Faran - this isn't a ballet thing, why should she care? (finds out when Mouse sends a yaoi hands meme to the group chat.)

[a-decaying-nightlight]

chat my german teacher is fire, also found another shortswars fan and he doesnt know im fictionkin but he called me preston (what is with pll calling me preston i have no problem with it but like huh) and me and the kid have formed the kurt gang as our german names we chose are kurt

[wosobronze]

https://www.tumblr.com/wosobronze/758352953512001536/so-apparently-ona-didnt-take-felis-shirt

i’m the anon who was at the game and like i said i could only see ona give feli her shirt thats it but i had pll in front of me so if anyone else had better seats plz tell us😭😭

that’s actually so funny like how random😭😭 were they chatting for a while from what you could see? i need all the deets it’s too funny

[glowettee]

if you can’t join them, beat them at their own game | monda vanderwaal

you know what no one tells you when you’re the weird girl? the forgotten girl? the one on the outskirts of every group chat, the one who fades into lockers and background noise and the “oh yeah, her”? they don’t tell you that being invisible is a superpower.

because when they’re not looking at you, you can see everything. and when you’ve been left out of the game long enough, you stop waiting for someone to pick you. you start learning how to build your own board, your own rules, your own checkmate. and mona vanderwaal? she didn’t just reinvent herself. she weaponized invisibility. she turned being overlooked into a strategy.

this is for the girls who are done playing nice. who are tired of being everyone’s “before” picture. who are finally ready to stop being ignored and start being unforgettable.

i have been quite feeling invisible lately, i felt like friends haven't been matching my vibe, been wishing i had other things i don't have. while admiring other strangers without knowing their lives. it feels like invisibility has been present in my life lately. so, this is why i made this post, mona from pll has been on my mind lately and her character development in the show has resonated with me lately. so here is to the girls who are tired of being invisible, who are ready to be themselves without caring about the projections others make of them.

what they don’t see is what you can use

mona started as the sidekick, remember? “loser mona.” that’s what they called her. she watched all the pretty girls treat her like she was disposable, like she’d never be anything more than a tag-along or a punchline. but the entire time, she was studying the rules. and not just the social rules, but the unspoken ones. who has power, who doesn’t. who pretends, and who sees through it.

and once she saw how fake the system was? she didn’t cry about it. she coded her way out. literally. like… not to be dramatic but she created a terror network from a burner phone and lip gloss. the girl rebranded herself from the inside out and didn’t ask for permission once.

so here’s what i need you to understand if you’re reading this and you’ve ever felt underestimated:

→ you’re not “too quiet” or “too weird” or “too much.” you’re just still loading.

and when the download completes? you’re going to be so dangerous they’ll wish they never ignored you.

✧ how to weaponize reinvention (like mona did)

reinvention isn’t about pretending to be someone you’re not. it’s about realizing who you’ve always been beneath the projections. you’re not “turning into” someone else. you’re unearthing the girl who’s been waiting for her moment.

here’s your mona-core transformation plan i created for you all. think of it like a silent blueprint. no one has to know you’re doing it until it’s already done.

1. ✧ go ghost to get clarity

you don’t evolve in a crowd. you evolve in silence. mona vanished, on purpose. she took time away from the people who only saw her as one thing. if you’re trying to reinvent yourself while staying in the same rooms with the same people who never valued you, it’s like trying to paint your masterpiece on a foggy mirror. it won’t stick.

go ghost. log off. step back. observe more than you post. this is not isolating forever. it’s giving yourself the space to remember who tf you are without the noise.

2. ✧ romanticize your obsession phase

mona didn’t just glow up. she obsessed up. she got smarter, sharper, faster. she learned to code, built surveillance networks, studied her enemies' every move. while they were partying, she was plotting. it wasn’t out of spite... it was because she finally cared about herself more than she cared about them.

find your thing and get borderline delusional about it. your grades. your skincare. your SAT prep. your book you're writing. your personal brand. pick one obsession and make it your everything. fall in love with knowing more than everyone in the room. there is nothing more powerful than a girl with an obsession no one sees coming.

3. ✧ be unrecognizable. but still you

when mona came back, she wasn’t “loser mona” anymore. she was glossy. mysterious. her words were clipped like she’d deleted half her personality just to make space for ice. you don’t need to become mean. you just need to become unreadable.

leave the overexplaining behind. let people wonder. change your style. update your habits. wear something unexpected. shift your tone. speak softer, think sharper. nothing scares people more than the girl they thought they knew, suddenly looking like a puzzle they never had the pieces to.

4. ✧ build a life that makes you unbothered

this is not about revenge in the messy, petty way. it’s the softest kind of revenge: becoming so content in your own world that their validation feels irrelevant.

mona didn’t just take power, she built systems. her lair. her data archive. her skillset. her “i don’t need any of you to win” energy. you need your own version of that. maybe it’s your notion dashboard. your pinterest board. your secret google doc full of ideas. your weekly routine. your skincare archive. make your life a fortress. girlblogging has become a part of my life, and i use it as a system to improve myself while helping others.

5. ✧ be scary in a way they can’t name

the ultimate mona move? no one ever quite knew what she was thinking. and that made her powerful. she wasn’t dramatic. she wasn’t loud. she was calculating. strategic. collected.

learn how to be calm in chaos. learn how to let people underestimate you and say “thank you.” start doing things that don’t make sense to anyone but you. when you stop performing for their approval and start acting from your own internal plan, you become intimidating without lifting a finger.

✧ final thoughts from mindy (aka: me)

some of us were never meant to be the main character in their story. because we’re meant to write our own. if they didn’t choose you, good. now you’re free to choose yourself with no interference.

i want you to stop apologizing for how deeply you feel things. for how hard you try. for how long you remember the mean things they said. you are not too sensitive. you are not overreacting. you are collecting data. and one day, you’re going to turn all that hurt into something unrecognizable and sharp and stunning.

mona didn’t need a second chance. she made one.

and so will you.

xoxo mindy~

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[dojae-huh]

https://youtu.be/qvd6Qbnd41s?si=YbMhy0U98nRcT550

21:53

Doyoung: I have seen jungwoo passing out in the middle of watching film exhuma!!

He was saying it like he have seen it through his eyes, not from some group chat......

First of I don't want to fight....but I couldn't ignore it huh nim.... Like that anon said it like so adamant, like no matter what I refuse to believe they 3 we're tgthr... That kind of mindset... Like dy must have get it from group chat? Omg.... Really.... If am not a jaedo shipper, but there is a possibility of them being tgthr for some place, I don't think there is any chance to deny it.... Like if one ship is really shipping, that 2 pll can't go with any other?? What's logic is that? Nd am not saying doyoung imalways says the truth.... But he is good at hiding info especially about jaedo.... But look here.... Jaewoo went to see the movie, it's the fact, then y would he say it like he have seen it??? Nd given his character, even if he sees it , he would say it like he got the info from somewhere else.... Isn't it right huh nim?? Nd that doyoung announcing it openely he have seen it woo passing out, for the movie where actually jaewoo went tgthr...??? BULLSHIT...... IT'S WHAT WE CALL IT AS THE SLIPPERY OF THE TOUNGUE...... nd it's the truth.... Nd the staff didn't cut it, coz it was funny nd entertaining for the woo fans..... Nd there is nothing to get afraid to be... So they just keep it.... If they knw we are fighting over a single dialogue, even after the 2 days of it's broadcast, they would be like calling a meeting..... Haha.....

I can just ignore this,....nd am not here to proove anything abt the movie night....but what I don't get is, doesn't matter if u r a shipper or not, why can't they accept the things as it is....its a straight confession, why u need to make alot of definition over this?? I don't get by proving this what do they get actually....

All I want to say is, if u see everything through the shippers eyes, you will lose a lot of precious moments..... Shopping is there, but also frndship, brotherhood, colleagues etc....evrything can make moments nd memories.... Don't miss it......coz that's also beautiful tooo.....

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I suppose it comes from different look on things and different feelings.

You, anon, thought you caught Doyoung on a slip up and added a new detail to an old information. You were happy because it meant JaeDo watched a movie and wrote to a JaeDo shipper blog to spread the news and tell about a shippery moment.

(first version) Jaehyun and Jungwoo watched Exhuma -> (updated) Jaehyun and Jungwoo and Doyoung watched Exhuma -> (a possible even fuller picture of the event) Jaehyun and Jungwoo and Doyoung and Jungwoo's sister/17's member watched Exhuma

As we can see, other fans interpret same news differently. For example, "those delulu JaeDo shippers need to make everything about their ship discounting wholesome JaeWoo time, stealing from JaeWoo shippers" or "those shippers are ready to call pure Jungwoo a lier just to turn everything into JaeDo conspiracy". There could be a feeling of jealousy (from a JaeWoo shipper), a feeling of irritation/hurt (from a Jungwoo stan), or a feeling of "I know better, don't try to change my belief in how events unfolded" (from a "I saw on the internet and you are wrong"). I'll stop, but there can be other possible reactions. It's not like DJJ watching a movie is unbelievable on it's own, it's that there is resistance to accept it happening (the way I have doubts about JaeWoo as movie buddies, doesn't mean I'm right, I'm in the middle of collecting more info, it's pending for me).

Now, to answer your question about the moment. Thanks for the timestamp, I've analysed it.

Doyoung didn't say he "saw", in Korean he said "it happened" (or, rather, "Woo did it"). Therefore, it is possible Jaehyun told him about it as a funny story, or Jungwoo told himself.

Doyoung looked at Jaehyun to laugh together after the words. And normally people bring up moments like that when they themselves were witnesses, when it left an impression. Other members didn't react (so it wasn't in a group chat like that anon suggested), Mark even asked Doyoung for a clarification (21:55).

In conclusion. Heh, it's still 50/50. Do's smile directed at Jae was huge, which can mean he was present (and thus his excitement was bigger, he was affected more by the scene seeing it in person). However, he didn't say "I saw". Other members didn't know about Woo passing (look at Mark questioning, Tae and Yuta not reacting, Johnny showing a surprised look), which means that if Doyoung didn't go to the cinema, then Jaehyun told the funny detail only to him.