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corvidcentral · 4 days
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I think the only reason Six didn’t straight up murder Dean in the Sierra Madre was cuz they were dissociated 95 percent of the time. It’s a miracle neither of them mauled the other
DM Six below the cut :3
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They’re down two limbs cuz of Lanius,,,, I have a comic regarding their fight in the works but yeagh.
Also I feel like they’d be having constant migraines and bloody noses in the Sierra Madre,,,,, awful combo of the Cloud and brain damage. Other fun fact I think they made an Awful leg prosthetic via Ghost Person leg and a medical brace or two. When in Rome I suppose
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caspock · 2 years
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why did dean get to bond more with claire than cas
#i know main character etc whatever etc#corollary: why was one of the claire episodes. about MICK (irrelevant dead british guy 3)#sneaking my perhaps vaguely incendiary opinion here within the tags also but some of u guys rly like#overemphasize the significant of claire and dean's relationship#*significance#like yeah they have a certain understanding courtesy of deancoded problems and issues#and there is an appeal to the couple of times they pretend to be family on cases. like there's a lightheartedness there that's nice#but on the other hand like claire literally does not know this man. this man went on murder rampages half the times they saw each other#and like idk i see their connection overemphasized at the cost of her connection with cas#which is like. i am sitting here in a constant loop saying so i'm just supposed to watch angel heart and say cool i'm satisfied with that#like i'm supposed to take a look at possibly the most effortlessly complex relationship in supernatural and say. cool. less of that#like supernatural SAID. they SAID. cas is not claire's father he's wearing her father's face. claire prayed to cas. for years.#cas promised he'd keep jimmy's family safe and he lied and he looked for claire and that season plot coincided with him looking for his grac#*grace#and they said. he's gonna look for claire and they're both desperate for family and belonging and it will be so fucked up#and then they put claire in a taxi cab and said anyway back to the mark of cain#okay sorry i'm writing something and i got myself fired up#caspock.txt#mdfs.txt#yeah that's right that's a new project tag. think i am onto something
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lesbiansaaviik · 5 months
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Can I be beautifully honest with you guys? I hate 91 Whiskey and So Says the Sword
#no hate to the author cause I actually liked a one shot of theirs#but like man these fucking suck#so so boring and pointlessly long#in SSTS nothing happens and it’s boring because it’s all ridiculous purple prose that tells and doesn’t show#you can set it up with Cas being emotionless as an angel and then gains emotions when he falls in love#but he has to actually gain those emotions and you can’t just tell me what a beautiful and masterful love story you’re writing#you have to actually write it#in 91W it’s all troop movements and militaristic bullshit that I don’t care about because I know Dean and Cas will be fine#and they haven’t shown me enough about literally any other character to make me give a fuck if they live or die#great. Inias will get killed off. maybe I would care more if it weren’t so predictable and also if Cas weren’t just an asshole to him#for no reason#which brings me to my second point of jesus fucking christ 91W is so OOC#crazy take I know but Cas is not randomly an asshole! maybe he is at first but then he changes because he’s in love with Dean and he’s never#like. snappy and grouchy this is So OOC and it makes it painful to read because why should I care about someone who’s mean and cruel#all the time#I’m not saying Cas is an angel (pun half intended) all the time but I don’t think he’s cruel#and moreover I think they’ve just got Cas and Dean flipped. Dean would be perfect for the grouchy military commander in the late seasons#kind of way where he’s an ass to everyone due to grief#and Cas would make a great medic; caring about humanity to his detriment#this way around it’s just painful to watch Cas piss off Dean who is somehow more emotionally literate??? in what world#it’s just fucking boring and painful and Cas is not the one with internalised homophobia let’s be real#I would love to see 1940s era repressed queer Dean but no; I’m stuck with asshole Cas freaking out over being a fairy#and taking it out on Dean!#do you seriously think that corresponds to canon Cas’ reasons for repressing his feelings for Dean? answer quickly#anyway. rant over I will continue hate reading it so I can see if it gets good#but at this point the smut isn’t even good enough to justify it so. idk why I’m wasting my time#anne speaks#please someone say they agree with me or otherwise I’ll feel like I’m going insane#the whole fandom loves SSTS especially and I’m here like. well that sucked
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aachria · 5 months
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The long awaited (maybe? Idk how many of you were waiting for this) SSSBMTY College AU!
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Majors in bold
Headcanons in regular text
Notes about the art indented in orange
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Luffy — Undeclared
Was forced into school by his gramps. (The university dean. The fucking dorm building all the Strawhats but Jimbei live in is named after him.)(it was this or join the navy.) Takes the most random classes he can. Some of them are advanced and require perquisites and no one knows how he keeps getting into them. Wears shorts and sandals in winter & will run any errand or do any odd job for food. He has a very nice bike he got for free from a garage sale that Franky fixed up. There's a campus wide bet on when and what he'll choose as his major. His bucket hat was a gift from Shanks, the universities World Economics prof. Has a million friendship bracelets on his ankles because Ed makes them when they're stressed. Never has a bag on him. Fights Canadian geese on the way to class, like a fucking maniac. Protected species who?
When I tell you that this drawing of Luffy is the first time I've ever drawn actual feet with toes that don't look fucking ridiculous I need to cheer for me. Why is he a different flavour of boy every time I draw him please. His ass isn't rubber in this universe, of course he's scuffed to shit. Chopper ran out of Spiderman bandaids, sorry bud. Advocate for the Single Piercing Luffy™ agenda, he went and got it done with Ed when they got their helix.
Ed — English major Psychology minor
Took History of Piracy for easy grades & a story idea. Known around campus as that asshole who'll tell you exactly which of your roommates ate your leftovers for $5. Is roommates with Luffy because of a system mix-up when they got distributed. Always wears a Burberry trench coat Nami thrifted for $3 and gave them as a bday gift. Carries everything in a ratty falling apart messenger bag. Them and Luffy filled out marriage papers on a dare, Zoro (who got legally ordained on a dare minutes before) oversaw that, Zoro and Ed filed the papers when they were drunk. So Ed and Luffy are legally married. And they don't even notice until tax season and Jonah, Ed's accounting friend, asks about it.
I need you to ignore the inconsistence with the hands in these ok? Some of them get very nice and normal hands, and others get weird shaped blobs. Sorry Ed, them's the breaks kid.
Zoro — Health and Fitness major Mathematics minor
Literally no one knows why he has a Mathematics minor, least of all him. P sure he walked into the wrong class on the first day and just stuck with it. The most terrifying captain of the kendo team the university has ever had. He's won more championships and trophies in his tenure than the school has in its history, the revenue he brings in from sponsorships and such make them turn a blind eye to his... eccentricities (three sword style. Nobody has stopped him yet, anyone who says it's illegal gets penalized). Has had campus security called on him so often from being creepy when walking home from the gym in the dark there's a poster of him in the security office that says 'NOT ACTUALLY A THREAT. JUST WEIRD AND WALKS WITH PURPOSE.'
Zoro's sword patch on his jacket was designed by Usopp, embroidered by Luffy for a class (shittily) and fixed up and sewn on by Ed. Those docs have seen war. He has put them through hell. He has walked through a fucking river with those things, he superglues them back together every time they break. Franky had to strongarm him into getting the soles professionally replaced.
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Nami — Meteorology major Finance minor
All of her clothes are thrifted designer things. Regularly terrorizes Value Village employees. Anything she has that isn't thrifted she gets from the many estate sales she plagues, snatching grandma's entire Chanel collection and all her nicest jewelry. She has absolutely everything anyone could ever need in her purse. Tampons and pads? She gotchu. Extra pens? It'll cost you, but yeah. A curling iron? Sure, why the hell not. She runs the betting pool on Luffy's major with Ed. She also writes a gossip column for the school newspaper and has a podcast she uploads a new episode to every few months. Shows up to every class looking like a supermodel no matter the time. 7am? Perfect. 10pm? Fabulous. Your go-to if you get locked out of your dorm. Has a moped but barely uses it.
Nami's bag is a large Prada Gallaria Saffiano bag, which I painstaking drew to accuracy down to the colour even though it still looks ever so slightly different, because Nami is a big purse girl. The compass rose necklace was a going away gift from Nojiko when she left for uni. I think her haircut is so cute I love her sm. Don't pay any mind to how fucking disheveled half of their lineart looks next to her pls.
Usopp — Graphic Design major
Not a member of the archery club, but shows up enough he’s in all the team photos. Was originally the designated driver, had a pretty little mini van they called the Merry, had one of those fucking fuzzy dice hanging mirror things in the shape of a sheep’s head. Got in a bad car accident and she got totaled by some jackass in a red Honda Civic. Dating Kaya, who’s a nursing student. They barely see each other because she’s so fucking busy and half the students are convinced the girlfriend Usopp is always talking about and calling is fake. The Strawhats have a dnd campaign that they run every other week, Usopp DM's. On weekends he works at an axe throwing range and holds the record for most bullseyes in a row. They have his picture mounted on the wall.
Usopp's necklace is the old key to the Merry, and he engraved his belt buckle for a project. I cursed his ass with the giant fuck off portfolio bag because those things are so big and unwieldy. The people in his program's studio never clean their paint up properly, that's why he's covered in it. Advocate for the Usopp With Gages™ agenda. God he is such a cutie patootie.
Sanji — Business degree
Literally grew up working in a restaurant, he’s only going to school to get the degree so he can open his own and also because Zeff threated to castrate him if he didn't get a higher education. Cooks basically every single meal for the dorm, since it’s just the Strawhats (it's a new (old it's old and was refurbished. Everyone assumed it was haunted.) building that they just dedicated to Garp. Has no other residents yet). Him and Zoro fight so much in their shared room half the time he ends up kicking him out and making him sleep in the community room lmao. He just shows up in half the culinary classes because he hates the business ones so much, the one time someone tried to tell him to leave he cussed them out for a full ten minutes while gesticulating wildly with a knife in hand. They never tried that again. Saw one of the profs berate a young lady for wearing a dress shirt to class because it’s impractical and proceeded to take that personally. Yeah he wears three piece suits to all his classes, he could still kick you ass in ‘em. Shut up. Volunteers to show around foreign exchange students because he can speak at least 4 foreign languages fluently. Is it to woo pretty French girls with his charm? Wouldn't you like to know.
I could not draw Sanji in a decent pose for the life of me, his ass was just not having it. He's got one of them really nice leather messenger bags with the lined pockets and filigree, he's very proud of it.
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Chopper — PreMed
One of the few Strawhats who regularly sees Usopp’s reclusive girlfriend, and is very confused as to why people think she isn’t real. Still a literal child (is 15 still a child? Yeah that's like barely a teenager), a goddamn prodigy and got in with an incredibly good recommendation from the best doctor in the country, who just so happens to be his adoptive mother. He’s literally too cute for anyone to question that, plus he’s the sharpest tack in the damn class. He knocked his front tooth out ages ago (it was an adult tooth) but he's too fucking busy to get an appointment to get it fixed, just adds another layer to his babyface. Nice girls keep asking him if he's here to go see his parents or older siblings, he's endlessly infuriated by it and Sanji is endlessly jealous. Saved Ed from choking to death in a Domino's parking lot the first time they met, he dropped his pizza doing it so they bought him another. The rest is history. Does not feel cold, wears chunky boots year round. Got them reflective ass eyes like a deer, no one has ever taken a good picture of this child. He looks fucking possessed in his school ID.
TELL ME WHY I ALMOST FORGOT TO DRAW CHOPPER. I finished drawing Franky and was like "gee, only Brook and Jimbei to go! Good for me," and then I had to pause while looking as the picture of the group I was semi-referencing for heights n shit and was like "OH FUCK THE CHILD—" He's so cute tho. He's giving lil baby Goro Akechi. The argyle sweater vest and Timbs were a must, so was his hockey boy haircut. Matching backpack and tie for the win. Oh and the freckles, Chopper with freckles is everything to me.
Robin — Has a million hyper specific degrees. Currently earning her third doctorate.
Very mysterious and sexy. Mature student who occasionally gives lectures in the archeology program when she has free time. Owns a motorcycle but barely rides it. How is she not in debt after so much schooling? Don't fucking ask if you want to live. Is that why she lives in the dorm building? Do. Not. Ask. She and Luffy attend the same Theology class, no one knows how Luffy is passing with such good grades, but Robin is adamant that he doesn't take notes or borrow hers, and takes to having the same scores as him with grace. Child actor on one of those show like Barney (but not Barney dear lord) or Reading Rainbow and people only knew her as 'that kid with the creepy fuckin stare.' She was a meme a few years back, they called her the devil child. Every time someone asks her about it she just says she has no idea what they're talking about while giving them the creepy stare.
Women with Big Bags truther, right here. Robin deserves to be put in a suit. Goddamnit, get that woman in a suit!
Franky — Has a bachelors of Engineering, a bachelors of Architecture, and is earning his (water specific) Architecture degree
Currently the groups designated driver (after the tragic death of the poor Merry) with his supped up SUV, the Sunny. How do all the Strawhats fit inside? The power of love, obviously. That car will NOT fucking move if even one of the seatbelts is undone. Made Ed and Luffy wedding rings after he found out they accidentally got married. (Only after laughing for a half our straight, almost passing out, and laughing again. Then he cried for another hour about how beautiful it was.) He sometimes works as a nude model for life drawing classes on campus. Half of the the Strawhats have, in one way or another, seen him in the buck. Has knee braces from an... incident... with a train when he was younger. Now he volunteers at KidsAbility and has a shift on the campus crisis/suicide hotline. Huge advocate for mental health services at the school. He lives in the dorms for the ✨experience✨. Even worse than Luffy, mf wears booty shorts in the dead of winter. He's constantly dressed like It's laundry day. One of those guys from a famous Vine when he was younger that just gets stopped while he's walking so people can go "TRAMPOLINE VASE GUY??" (Iceberg was recording. I love Iceberg.)
Yes Franky is wearing an I ♥ MILFs shirt, what of it? It was a gift. Drawing him was an exercise in struggling with the pompadour and getting uncomfortably close to drawing Syndrome. Yes, he's cold all the time. No, he will not stop.
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Brook — Literally no one knows. Something music related probably.
Fucker has been around forever, there’s old ass profs who swear to god they went to school with him and he hasn’t aged a day. Regularly plays local bars and cafes. Doesn't own a cellphone, he can literally only operate rotary phones. Computers confuse the shit out of him. Knows nothing about pop culture or recent events, but is up to date on everything in the music industry. He sometimes helps organize the old library archives because he's somehow the only person who understands the system they're organized in. Sometimes he'll just namedrop a famous singer/band he's either played with, done karaoke with, or done background vocals/instrumentals for and you have to guess whether he's telling the truth or just saying shit. There's a campus wide betting pool (run by Nami and Ed, go figure) on whether he's a vampire, ghost, time traveler, or Dorian Gray in disguise. Prepares the questions for 70s night pub trivia. Every time the Strawhats plan a ghost hunt he's busy, then at the end they find out that all the paranormal shit they've been experiencing is just him running his errands. It's happened at least four times.
Is Brook off-putting enough? I was trying to make him off-putting. He swears up and down the neck tattoo was gotten on a dare by Elton John, what, you gonna question a man who looks like he stepped out of Coraline? The skeleton gloves were a gift from Ed.
Jimbei — Has already graduated as a Marine Biology major Political Science minor and is taking both a Gender Studies course and a Peace and Conflict Studies course years later.
Teaches martial arts at a local dojo on weekends and volunteers with the martial arts team on campus. Robin helps him organize protests on weekends. He's good buds with a lot of the faculty and gets invited to after work drinks regularly. He helped establish a program that walks people who stay late at the library to their dorms when he was first a student that's still going strong to this day. Lives off campus and has the Strawhats over for BBQ on long weekends. Literally the only time the Strawhats eat food not made by Sanji. The Grill Master™. Somehow holds some kind of record or high score at every single bar/pub in town. Knows every single mailman and janitor by name. MVP of the catch and release fishing club, helps plan all of their trips.
I struggled with him. I struggled hard. That's a man who went his whole childhood with a horrendous underbite and only got it fixed once he was an adult. Ed gave him the fishing lure earrings out of guilt after he brought them on one of his fishing trips and they fell in and nearly capsized their boat. IT'S A REUSED PLASTIC BAG JIMBEI IS RESPONSIBLE ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT—
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via-l0ve · 1 year
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Hi! Uhh, would you mind writing for the spn guys w/ a reader who's bad at showing affection the "normal" way and likes to give ppl stuff? And not like regular gifts, just things that remind them of the guys. Like beads or old bracelets or cool rocks & other shiny stuff. No. I'm not a crow. Y would u think that. Uh,,, bye. Drink sum water
Gifts! (SPN pref!) 🩷
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a/n: this idea is SO CUTE. i literally love it. also sorry for lowkey disappearing lol, im sick with i don’t even know what and i’ve been in my depressed era but IM BACK BABES. PROMISES.
warnings: nothing!!! swearing i guess (should i even include this as a warning anymore? swearing is like my second language.)
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Dean:
dean cherishes EVERYTHING you get him
“dean?”
“yeah y/n?”
“i got you this rock.”
“oh, really?”
he carries the rock with him in his jacket pocket because it’s just so smooth and nice and it’s from you!
i feel like he would find random bottle caps and start a collection with you
“dean!! look! i found this old bracelet on the road. it’s so cute right? and shiny. it’s for you.”
“thank you.” *literally melts.*
Sam:
DONT GET MAD AT ME!!!
Sometimes sam throws the stuff away
ONLY TO MAKe ROOM FOR THE NEW STUFF
he thought it was a little odd at first
“a bead… reminded you of me.”
“yeah!!”
“…okay then.”
he quickly falls in love with your habits
he finds himself picking up on them and stuff
he stores them all in a little shoe box
im sobbing. that’s so cute
the box has “nike” scribbled out and sam wrote “y/n’s gifts” on it instead
it’s so cute
Castiel:
CAS FUCKING LOVES IT
he gets you little trinkets too
they’re not as random as yours but one time he went to a thrift store and found a little trinket of a mouse and was like “this is y/n.”
but he has a little container for all of the beads/bracelets you give him
he puts all of your rocks in a very organized and pretty order
he loves the shiny things the most
you got him a pin that said #1 dad
despite him not being a dad
he was like
“this is the best gift i’ve ever gotten.”
wears it nonstop.
Crowley:
he’s a little confused at first
“you got me… a rock?”
“yeah!”
“…why?”
“it just reminded me of you!!!”
idk if you guys have seen Guardians of the Galaxy but in the scene where it shows Yondu’s collection of little toys he sets on the ship before he drives it??
that’s crowley
he puts all of his favorite things you get him right on his throne or in his pockets
he grows to love it
Gabriel:
he can’t get enough of it
you get him weird little pins and sparkly things and he adds them to his ensemble daily
he keeps them all
never throws anything out
“i found this chip and it’s shaped like texas.”
“i love it.”
you guys are on a walk around town and you find him an old bracelet that says “pookie” and you give it to him and he wears it EVERYWHERE
sam/dean/cas/crowley see it one day
“pookie?”
“yeah. that’s my nickname.”
“who the fuck gave you that nickname?”
“y/n.”
he shows off everything you give him
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scoobydoodean · 1 month
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hot take ig but… dean wanting to contain jack was not cruel or even a bad idea…
first, it was not just dean’s idea. sam agreed, and cas had basically the same idea, just using the cage instead. but for some reason everybody ignores this!! second, containing dangerous people is what they always do. sam and cas have done so to dean. the s5 finale was all about locking up a dangerous powerful being. and there are other examples! third, jack was the most powerful being in the universe and had no soul meaning no ability to discern right from wrong. he was killing people! and they’ve always seen soulless people as dangerous. dean was willing to let sam die via the process of returning his soul bc he saw that soulless sam was not sam. and sam agreed!
like. yes dean was not handling the situation well, let alone gently, so i understand why sam and cas were frustrated. but his mother had just been killed (and ftr i do think cas was being kind of insensitive about it), and jack was still killing other people. dean’s allowed to be angry. he was being outwardly meaner, but sam was agreeing with him (he said a part of him wanted jack dead!) up until the point that dean actually agreed to kill jack for chuck.
idk i just feel like people really exaggerate dean’s actions in this situation especially in comparison to what sam and cas were saying and/or doing too. so i’m just wondering what you think of all of this? do you think dean was “right” or was he overreacting? or do you think the audience is too hard on dean (as always :/) about this? could this be another version of samdela effect? cause i feel like people misremember what the others were saying/doing in order to put more on dean…
also omg i just realized how long this became, so so sorry for the long rant!! if you can respond, thank you!
*opens my coat* would you care for some memes?
I will take your hot take and flambé it. When it comes to this subject, I don't feel inclined to be patient with fandom or carefully lay anything out piece by piece. I'm sick and tired of hearing about what a betrayal it was to put Jack in the box and how mean and evil and abusive it was blah blah blah cry me a river. I was there watching when that episode aired and saw how stupid everyone was about that episode in real time and it was annoying then and it continues to be annoying that almost no one seems to bother putting a single granule of thought into this episode or what Sam and Dean were thinking or what the stakes actually were. And yeah—it was not just Dean who did that despite the samdela effect hard at work causing people to insist Dean somehow forced Sam to go along with him when that categorically did not happen.
People act like Jack was just standing there shitting rainbows and unicorns out of his ass and Dean turned around and strangled him to death for it. What happened was Soulless Jack killed Sam and Dean's mom and then went off and turned someone into a pillar of salt for being an atheist and filled someone else's body with worms to punish them for not wanting to be turned into an angel. Then he showed up at the bunker trying to make nice in the most hauntingly emotionless way possible—calling killing Mary an accident and then in his next breath saying he snapped and killed her because she threatened to reveal that the manner in which he killed Nick was scary and disturbed. In other words—he made it very clear to Mary's sons that murdering her was not actually a fucking accident at all even while he was calling it one.
Jack: I know -- I know things have been bad. A-And, if it helps, I regret it. The accident. Sam: The -- The accident? Jack: What happened to Mary. She kept talking about my soul, t-that I didn't have a soul, and she kept pushing. Dean: Oh, so she made you do it. Jack: No, it -- it was me, but I didn't want this no-soul thing to become an issue between us. I guess I snapped. Before I knew it, it was all over. Dean: "It" being the accident.
So Sam and Dean tricked him (the most powerful being in all creation) into getting in a box and he sat in there for 10 minutes. Oh no. How horrible.
A lot of the stupid fandom response to this is rooted in the babyfication of Jack that ran rampant within fandom at the time and continues in many circles. I happen to like Jack, and when I say that, I mean that I actually like him, and not the fanon adultbabydestiellovechild the fandom invented who has the emotional and mental capacity of a two year old and can't understand the difference between right and wrong. The real Jack did understand, and the real Jack would be (and was when he returned) horrified by what soulless Jack did (and for more than just how it would impact him). Jack was always an emotional person who struggled to control great power, but he had a strong moral compass and he loved people. That Jack would never have subjected someone to the twisted biblical punishments soulless Jack did for the crime of not believing in god or in him???? That Jack would have thrown Dumah into a wall in a rage for the mere suggestion he kill people over their beliefs and said, "You're hurting people". That Jack also would have wanted Sam and Dean to lock him up to protect others.
Some of the fandom problem with this also has to do the soulless lore as a whole and the constant usage of Donatello as the "soulless people can manage" poster child. Which ignores not only soulless Jack's actual behavior and how deeply dangerous his powers make him, but... pretty much every other soulless person we ever saw in the series, from soulless Sam, to numerous victims of Amara who turned into raging murderers in season 11 after she ate their souls. Hell though—the same people who insist soulless Jack was some poor little baby who just needed gentle parenting probably also think there was nothing wrong with soulless Sam despite the fact that he watched his brother be assaulted multiple times and seemed to actively enjoy it. Just normal Sam things, right? Donatello is the exceptional soulless person—not the rule—and it's because it isn't in his best interest to make trouble.
The idea that soulless Jack could be molded was suggested by Cas, but he also (as you pointed out) ended up inquiring about putting Jack in The Cage, instead of the Ma'lak box (and after the Ma'lak box was destroyed, so it wasn't an option anymore).
Lbr—the misogyny also jumped out in this string of episodes. Countless posts one after the other about how stupid Mary was and how it was all her fault and Jack did nothing wrong. How dare she make Jack angry. God forbid. What a stupid, frail, illogical woman. She deserved to die long before that anyway because she was a terrible mother, right? I mean it was obvious this sort of nonsense would come from the fandom in advance, given how many people had meltdowns over Dean shooting Jack in the back (something that didn't hurt Jack in the least) to get him to stop strangling a black store clerk to death in 13.23. As always, the imagined frail little fee fees of the white adult baby that fans invented must supersede other people's lives. Jack should be allowed to throw whatever tantrums he wants and kill anyone he wants during them and in response, Dean should shush him and start singing lullabies and carry him to a rocking chair to nurse.
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hexedwinchester · 2 months
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Supernatural S01E06 Skin
Not gonna lie, I never really liked this episode but for the first time in God knows how many re-runs I did find things that I liked about this episode.
Sam wears woman's underwear. 🤣🤣🤣
I never realised that Sam did keep in touch with his college buddies for a while after Jess died
Apparently, for his friends, he is supposed to be on roadtrip with his brother
Ironic how Sam calls Dean antisocial and Dean tell him he can't have relationships in this line of work and few seasons down the line, we see Dean having good bonds with Jody, Donna, Claire, Krissy and other fellow hunters but Sam has no one
Sam being sharp as fuck and realising Dean's not Dean because of missing car keys and bummed shoulder
Why does shifter!Dean look like just Dean? What were Jensen's directions here? Be Dean but angrier? I struggled to tell them apart. Maybe that was the point, idk
Lol, Sam's face when Dean says at least he picked the handsome one. Sit down brother, it's gonna be your face on wanted posters
Why did the shapeshifter tie a rope around Sam's throat but not Dean's? Kinda kinky fuckery if you ask me
That one scene where Sam is tied up and lying down on the floor. Why? Weren't you sitting? Tired? Or they just decided he looked pretty, lying on the floor and tied up?
The tender way Rebecca (Sam's friend) cradles his face (yes there's a gif below!)
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rocksalt-and-pie · 10 months
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alright I've made a more in depth list of episodes I would like to see in a fanservice season 16 as previously mentioned in my other post:
- human Impala (should be portrayed by a 55+ years old actor or actress with a strong Detroit accent and a very loud deep voice. they have arthritis in their shoulders because Dean never oils their creaking door hinges)
- Sam and Dean body swap (the potential for jokes is just top tier and the outtakes from this will be out of this world) (Jensen playing Jared playing Sam and the other way around sounds like absolute chaos)
Cas immediately recognizes Dean even in Sam's body and it's revealed that all this time he has been looking directly at Dean's soul 😭 (no kissing in this episode though. God the psychological damage a Misha/Jared kiss would cause)
- parallel universe with female Sam and Dean that they get sent to and meet each other / alternatively: some kind of gender swap curse that makes them turn into women (the potential for misogynistic jokes turning into more understanding and therefore changed behavior is just chef's kiss)
Bonus points for Cas off-handedly mentioning that he doesn't think it's weird that he wasn't affected by the curse because technically he has no gender and the body he inhabits is just a vessel (close up on Dean's face Thinking Thoughts)
Rowena takes care of it and compliments the female versions of them and it's kinda gay ("do we have to turn you back? Shame, would have been nice to have some female company, we could have formed a coven! Or done other fun things" cut to irritated glances being exchanged between the brothers/sisters)
- Jack and Claire teaming up for a hunt (preferably saving their damsel in distress father and step-dad that got trapped in some dangerous place where they finally have nothing but time to talk things out because there is no way to escape, you have to be freed from the outside)
- stanford era Dean flashbacks (feeling lost and alone on the road)
- Bobby and Rufus in the 80s flashbacks (including baby Winchesters!)
- Bigfoot hunt (the teddy bear episode doesn't count) but it's just an escaped gorilla or something. I just wanna see them hiking again okay I like the woods
- some, like, desert monster idk. filmed on location in Arizona or Nevada in the sweltering heat. the boys being forced to remove layer after layer of plaid. show me Dean in a tank top (handprint included)
- birthday episode (either Sam's or Dean's idc. How come that in 15 years there was never a case taking place during one of their birthdays!)
- an actual wedding, either Sam and Eileen or Jody and Donna or Dean and [gun shots]
- beach episode, show me those bathing suits. give me a Bond girl moment
- another Wayward Sisters episode please
- reverse French mistake although it would be absolutely fucking insufferable and I would hate it with all my heart (but it would be sooo funny)
- resolve all the other loose threads of open ended episodes (there are so many! The tulpa from season 1! The girls in the hotel from the haunted house episode in season 2! Jesse the antichrist kid from season 5! The witch twins and how one of them brought the other back from the dead! The kid of that monster friend of Sam's that Dean killed in season 8 i think and told him to his face to come looking for him when he's grown up! That's five whole episodes right there!! and those are just the ones i could come up with from the top of my head but I'm sure there's more)
- BRING BACK BELA FOR JUST ONE SCENE PLEASE
- a lot of you mentioned a proper musical episode, which. sure why not. a curse that makes you sing/perceive everything happening as music perhaps?
- and then of course. The coconuts gently colliding but this goes without saying
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splatarsenal · 4 months
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everyone is asleep (my friends) so I am here to Yap about supernatural ^__^ it's gonna be a mess and uhhh random things? just kind of my thoughts (?)
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ramble under the cut
ALSO!! SPOILERS FOR S6 AND SEASONS BEFORE THAT
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SOOO auggoo ok. So i'm on s6 right and can we all agree soulless sam sucks.. or am I just weird BECAUSE like yeah I get the appeal of him the more uhh tougher sam but something about him having no sympathy towards his brother. it makes me miss their dynamic like them caring for each other but now Sam just doesn't truly care. he has to pretend to and to make it worst Crowley Is the one behind this. NONETHELESS bisexual as hell dean the vampire calling him pretty? He go "Nuh uh" LOL (i'm going insane.) nonetheless (I say that all to much ignore that) Like wym that's Sam no it isn't that is not my Sam Winchester #savesamwinchsterfromcrowley or sowmthibg idk LOL i'm half awake don't OH MY GOD IS THAT A FAIRY? THING? (i'm watching supernatural as I type) LMFAO.. IN THE MICROWAVE? oh my god. What is he on Is this man on drugs what did they do to my son dean anyways minus thattt castiel needs to be more in s6 I miss them and I saw him 2 episodes ago where is my son I lost my son I can't find him *puts up a missing poster* (I'm SO CRINGE LOLLLLL) aggggahhauo
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I'm still so heart broken Gabriel died in like... NOT FAIR HE BARELY HAD ANY SCREEN TIME AND HE FUCKING LIEK !! WAS MAKING A CHBABnge just when I was like starting to like him cw says Nuh uh he dead now L + bozo has a heart attsck and dies rught here family guy death plose Please why do you do this spn I hate you I zzcried YESTERDAY. fun fact (who doesn't) this show is so painful I cried on call w my girlfriend and had s melt down LMFAO spn 5 ending hurt me AGGGSUH. you guys understand my pain rught righr... Cuddlin eith my cat currently to uheherm idk Zbut thank YIYY FOR LIKE!!! LIKING NY WRITING :3 IT Makes me sohappp y Ok that's hella off topic i'm hyper IS THAT A FAIFY WHAT JDTGST what is this. Chat Dean is loosing it (he never had it to begin with what am I talking about)
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my son he is very sick (Please gelp him) :(.. I miss him I miss him he hasn't seen his husband in a motbh someone end the war now I need him fto kiss dean noe, idk if it is just mean but when spn was on cw like I don't remember cas and I watched it around the tome it came out (I missed a lot of seasons and stuff) BUT like where did he come grom am I stupid ??? (Don't answer that.)
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whiterexpper · 1 year
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I need to say …
Annabel gets so much fucking hate way too early on.
Yeah, she’s…basically playing everyone like a pawn, but step into her shoes for a second.
Not only does she find out that there’s only one life to have out of all the other students there, but she has to survive amongst her OWN team in the end, she has to make up a strategy along the get-go to save her and her lover, Lenore.
She knows her and Lenore have a past together, she has to make a plan drawn out long enough for Lenore to not only find an exit, but in secret as well. They have to go through hoops and stay along amongst their own groups just to be able to live together again. And, like Annabel stated, she doesn’t want that life is Lenore isn’t in it.
In the end, it’s just those two against everyone else but in such a way that they have to try and kill each other, or make it seem so.
Their own teams have a chance of turning on each of them, hell, even duke or some of the misfit could turn against Lenore because in the end, it’s ONE LIFE. Unless they think they can all try and escape, who knows?
But that’s besides the point, everyone hates on Annabel because she’s “not trustworthy” or “is playing Lenore and is just using her”
Annabel’s TWO freak outs in the SAME DAY because she thought Lenore didn’t make it through the maze trial isn’t enough to show you guys her devotion to her?
Annabel climbed out of a WINDOW and got caught amongst the losing students by the deans to find “her Lenore”. Her “pet”
She loves Lenore to the fullest and would do anything to be with her in the hellish trials of nevermore and people STILL think she’s the villain.
You’re forgetting that she also has to survive amongst the other students and also is at the mercy of the deans.
She can’t survive against them, she knows it. Which is why she plans on escaping instead.
Unbelievable.
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UPDATE
seems that people are still hooked on hating her so I’m gonna add more
Does no one realize that they both have different views of each other?
Annabel is literally risking herself by lying to her own group about one another (aka. Prospero liking Ada but is shy, is what she told her. And how she didn’t step in for Ada and Morella against Montresor, but made it clear to him not to ignore her , not Morella or Ada. Bc he ignored her.)
It’s LITERALLY just her planning as she goes along, in the most recent chap that released, she stopped Lenore from the bell. There HAS to be a reason, you’re jumping on the horse too fucking early to judge her. She’s sincere with Lenore. And you’re ignoring that. Seriously, I’m not gonna tell those who hate Annabel what to do. But read into it a bit more and look at it from HER POV.
I’ll defend Annabel til the end of time , her being judged this early is bullshit but you’ll defend Montresor with what he does. (Yes, I’ve seen ppl support him. Some joke and that’s fine, it’s the others that fucking aren’t joking.)
Idk…
This is just me.
It’s dumb fuckery with how she’s still being blamed for being dead and literally has to be challenged to survive amongst other students trying to get one life while she works up a plan as she fuckin goes to escape w Lenore..
But no one sees that.
Not saying you have to change your opinion.
Just don’t be an ass and scream “I KNEW WE SHOULDNT HAVE TRUSTED HER. I WAS RIGHT.” Or “SHES A MANIPULATIVE BITCH, I KNEW IT.” No hun, your heads up your ass bc your one who judges too quickly. You take action first then think later lol and it says a lot about you.
I’ll make another Fuckin post about this too idc I’ll defend her for as long as this comic goes on.
THIS. PROVES. HER. LOVE.
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usimp4women · 2 years
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Lesson To Be Taught.
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Pairing; Lady Lesso (Dean of The School for Evil) X Reader
WordCount; 720 words, 4,129 characters.
Warnings; Slight NSFW, Kidnapping?
Summary; You missed an important meeting with Evil Mommy.
Note: Wrote this shit at like, 3AM in the morning like a fucking owl. hopefully I can achieve this fic to all your hearts desires and up to your levels of expectation. Short and Simple. (yeah Idk what the actual fuck am I doing srs this is so unnecessary) anyways, we love women in suits 🧎‍♀️
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You didn't expect it to come out of your heart like this; Anyone, anything, but her. This was not supposed to happen. "No.. It can't be," you say. You let out a small, heavy sigh as you leaned against the vanity in front of your body and glanced in the mirror, feeling ashamed and disgusted of yourself.
She's evil, although you can't help but wonder why she's so extraordinarily divine and enchanting. She is The Dean of The School for Evil, and you.. you are an Ever. A student who belongs to The School of Good.
Shaking your head, you decided to walk out from your dormitory. Until, you halted when you heard your friend, Juliana call aloud, "Y/N? Are you there? I would like to inform you something, regarding Lady Lesso. She told me to urge you to come visit her in her office, immediately."
You respond back with a minor hesitation, "Juliana? Ah right, just give me minute, I'll be there in a moment." "Okay, but be quick! You know Lady Lesso can be... should I say, exceptionally demanding.."
You squinted your eyes in frustration as you sensed their footsteps vanishing. You lay down on your bed in an effort to relieve your tensed shoulders and murmur, "Great." Thank heavens you are all alone here, in this room. You carefully closed your eyes as you allowed the distress to pass, completely oblivious to the dark figure around the corner.
You screamed "No!" as you gasped for air once you regained consciousness. What time is it? What happened?
"Well, Well, Well. I'm guessing someone's having a terrible nightmare."
"Huh?" Oh my god, cocking your head to the recognizable, alluring voice. "Lady Lesso?" No, this is ridiculous! Taking the opportunity to shake your head in response, telling yourself it's merely all just a dream and that you believe, you still remain inside your dorm. "What? You— I'm not even meant— why am I here, in YOUR bedroom?"
You observed around the place, realized how rather warm and exquisite it felt, you thought. Ah, but what am thinking?!
"Aw, Look at you, you miserable poor thing." She purred, bending her head to one side and resting her chin on top of her upper palm. "You have forgotten, missed an important discussion, and pretty much loads of timetable." What..? You glanced away towards a window in the corner and noticed that it appeared to be already dusk. "You have alot to catch up, darling."
You instantly shot your eyes back to her, slightly tilting your head, you acknowledge the door behind the woman's masculine body. You felt your throat going dry as you attempt to gulp.
You quickly took note how her eyebrow rosed up, trying to comprehend your true intentions. You promptly stood up and hurriedly rushed toward the exit door, you raised to reach the lock not until you felt strong, domineering hands latch onto your arm and yank you back towards the woman's bed.
You were on the verge of dropping onto your knees, before you felt the bed's edge behind your legs, forcing you to surrender onto the mattress.
You gave yourself another chance to sit up but are yet again shoved even farther down onto the mattress. The woman moved to meet your line of sight as you felt her body weight climbing above your body, straddling your legs, and imprisoning you below hers.
Her pressure on your small body caused you to be roughly pushed down and suffer. Hands dragged on top of your upper body, locking your arms over your head. Later hearing a deep chuckle next to your right ear.
"What's wrong, princess? Did you really think that would work?" She softly growls, you could feel her pant against your skin as her soft lips landed on to your neck and began kissing you delicately. You squirmed underneath her, suddenly feeling all hot inside, hearing her chuckling more deeper than before and implemented a more firm hold onto your body.
"Who knew you could be so mischievous this evening?"  The woman hummed in a rich, seductive tone, She stops, lingering her mouth against your ear, her teeth nibbling the tip. Whispering, "Mm, My good girl.."
"Let me teach you a lesson."
As she proceeds to loosen her tie, and tear off your garments.
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aipurjopa · 8 days
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ive deemed you to be very fucking silly do you wanna yap about anything? (go wild. literally anything.)
HIHIHIHIIHIHII okay so i don't have muchhh to yap about buuuut i did wanna say hi and yes, i'm SO fucking silly i hope i'm the silliest guy you've ever met
ummm i guess i'll rant about that new unstable vid from parrot then (heh)
BIG SPOILERS FOR UNSTABLE !!!!
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THE PART WITH WIFIED KEN AND PARROT ON THE FLYING MACHINE MADE ME CACKLE. I have so many questions. it's all staged so why did parrot actually have them stay up all night. or at least it sounds like they did because of wifies reaction to being woken up. how tf did ken mistake an enderman for a person (probably cause he was half asleep). how did parrot pitch this part of the recording: "hey guys you wanna stay up all night to move these villagers. for the bit."
Also idk if anyone else but me noticed (i'm crazy) but in the scene where uu!parrot meets up with uu!ken before they do the villager thing the track that plays is the same track from the proton escape vid during the end screen. I think it's cool cause it's like picking back up from where things left off last video (pulling uu!ken's stasis and the viewer not seeing if it worked to now confirmation that yes, uu!ken is alright).
Also I think it's cool how uu!ken and uu!parrot always seem to oppose each other in recent videos. uu!ken who at the end of everything still has a home, still has a stasis in the overworld, still has a way to be free vs uu!parrot who doesn't have that. uu!parrot who has no place to call home, who can't return to the overworld, who can't be free when he's trapped in the end.
it's cool because it's almost like a reverse on what they wanted during the proton escape. uu!ken who wants a place to be safe and if locking himself into a prison is the way to do it, then so be it (uu!parrot being locked in the end and "at least it's okay because i'm making a safe nation.") and uu!parrot who wants to get everyone free (uu!ken who now is one of the few who is able to freely go between every dimension as he pleases). i think it's really cool who their characters sort of oppose each other in this sense.
also uu!dean was really cool lol. i really liked having a guy who is sorta bad at the game and needs a place to go that the main character ends up doing everything for a lot. that and the whole "i'll remember it" quote at the end of the episode. parrot and wifies have seen nations be leveled to the ground, they both are probably numb to it. the new folks (emphasized by dean's character specifically) haven't ever experienced this sort of rise and fall before. to them this civilization was special, it's what saved them, how could they forget it?
sorry uu!dean for thinking you'd betray parrot in the civ vid and sorry uu!ken for thinking you'd betray parrot in the proton escape.
other random stuff from the video: ken has green and yellow fireworks and also the shield #branding, parrot constantly trying to go through the portal (it won't work), the update to cross dimension pearls being revealed by ken who has NO idea why this could be bad (everyone else in the call panicked), and also how while parrot is losing his mind about the mole wifies and ken are just having a silly little chat in the sewer lol
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blacknidstang · 5 months
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spn related but rather personal vent
For various reasons i've been needing to distance myself from spn in particular beside spending less time on social media and it's been because of number of extremely harmless little things that weren't even upsetting even but making me feel down a bit and now i suddenly remembered one of them was s5 and how sam was treated, how everyone was calling him incompetent and shit when he was literally offering to get himself locked in hell for eternity with satan himself, how that was their biggest worry. I think while i think undeniably Bobby did care about Sam and i mean, i think it would be so fucking absurd to claim Dean was ok with Sam jumping into the pit, but there's this persistent dissatisfaction of how these were never.. expressed.. and i love s5. I love swan song. It still wrecks me but there's a growing annoyance.
But here's the thing, when a thing or two about a show start to piss me off i just rather pull back. Clear my head. It's not that important. I dont like to log into tumblr and cry about spn's writing and a be a bitter samgirl™️. I dont wanna spend my mental energy on something quite destructive, for myself at least (and i'm sure that wouldnt make me a joy to be around anyway). Anyway. Why am i saying these? Idk. I think i'm trying to accept that i have issues with the show that really forced me to break out of heavy obsession and become more normal about it. I think admitting it gives me some peace bc i still love the characters and i still love so much of this show so unironically, even that cursed s5 itself is forever a favorite of mine. But at one point the dissatisfaction of it wasn't worth the stay. I'm still sticking around tho but i needed to vent it out in order to go back and focus on things that i love.
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crowleysgirl67 · 11 months
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Rich Secrets
Author: @crowleysgirl67
Word Count: 631
Parings/Characters: Dean x Reader, Sam 
Warnings: angsty, character death (mentioned), swearing, idk   
A/N: Thanks for reading!
You led the Winchesters up the front steps of your family home. There had never been any intention on your part to bring them here, but yet here you were. The six bed, six bath farm house stood on ten acres of land. 
“Are you sure about this place?” Sam asked as they looked about.
“Yes. It's secure. The iron tracks we drove over form a devils trap, the house sits in the middle. The whole property is warded.” you unlocked the door.
“Whose place is it?” Sam again asked as they followed you in, watching you toe your shoes off in the entryway.  
‘Why can they never just accept it as a safe place and not ask so many questions?’ you thought to yourself. 
“(Y/N/N)?” Dean prods gently.
“It’s mine.” you mumble.
“Come again?” he looked at you in disbelief at what he thought he’d just heard.
“It’s mine. I own it.” you stared at him watching his anger simmer just under the surface. He was pissed you didn’t tell him. He wouldn’t say anything in front of Sam though. 
“Shoes off. I’ll show you around. There’s plenty of rooms ya can each have your own.”
They took their shoes off as instructed and you showed them around. Sam opted for his own room on the main floor and left you and Dean alone. 
“This costs a hell of a lot of money. How do you own it?” Dean crossed his arms as he followed you into your room. 
“My family came from money. Old money, really old money.” you sighed.
“So if you have so much why aren’t you off living the high life?” there was a bitterness to his tone. 
“Is that why you’re so mad? That I’m hunting, not off living a normal life?”
“Yes! Why the fuck would you choose this!” he threw his hands up.
“You know how my parents died. But I didn’t tell you everything.” you sat on the edge of the bed.  
“What do you mean? I thought they died because of a shifter.”
“They did. But that particular shifter was cruel. He tortured us for days before finally killing them. The psychological torture of watching your parents die is enough to make anyone crazy. I could never truly have a normal life after that even if I wanted.” you took a deep breath.  “After my rescue I started looking into all of this. I warded everything. I installed the devils trap around the property.  I had practically every priest, shaman, and holy person known to man bless the property and house. It made me feel a bit safer.”  
“Sweetheart, why didn’t you tell me?” he sat next to you, his tone softening. 
“And say what? My parents died in front of me and now I've inherited everything?” 
“Is the money nice? Yes, but it’s more important to me that I could have been helping you with what you saw. With what happened to you.” he kissed your head.
“You’re one to talk Winchester. You bottle shit up just as much if not more than I do.” 
He couldn’t argue with that and he knew it. Instead he wrapped his arm around you and pulled you into his side.
“That’s what I thought.” you muttered.
“Yeah. Yeah you’re always right.” he chuckled.
“Damn fucking straight and don’t ya forget it.” you smiled softly.
“Are you finished bitching yet?” Sam poked his head in the door. 
You let out a laugh as Dean gave Sam a bitch face. “Yeah we’re ok Sam. You know him, mad he has to buy his own beer and pie.” you tease nudging Dean.
“Don’t knock on my pie” he scoffed, mock offended.
Sam rolled his eyes and shook his head at the two of you.
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xx-thedarklord-xx · 8 months
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People I want to get to know better…
Thank you @littlewinnow for the tag!
Last song: How do I say goodbye by Dean Lewis (Makes me cry every time I hear it and it also makes me want to write a Draco centered fic around it but idk if I have it in me)
Favourite color: PINK. I love pink, but I also like rainbows and I don't care if that doesn't count lmao
Last film/ show: Probably a cooking show like Beat Bobby Flay but I prefer to watch youtube instead of movies and shows because it has to be background noise for me or I can't focus (adhd sucks) and shows and movies require too much of my attention. I like to put on a youtube video while I do other things and just listen to it.
Sweet/savory/spicy: Spicy spicy spicy followed by something sweet!
Relationship status: Separated but single!
Last thing I googled: 'Do sea urchins have eyes?'
Current obsession: Video games. I go through a rotation of things and currently I enjoy playing video games whenever I can.
Last book: Fuck if I remember. I rarely read published books due to anxiety of not knowing what's in it. Which sounds silly, but there are a lot of things I can't read, and I don't like not knowing what I'll find. Why I tend to stick to fanfic where it's labelled for the most part.
Looking forward to: Having the energy to write lmao. I tend to hyper focus on one thing at a time. And since I'm currently in my video game rotation, that means writing is very limited. I might do a couple hundred words a day, which is not ideal but I will take it.
Unsure who has done or would be interested in doing this. I'll tag @valoale @celila-reblogs @lqtraintracks @kunfyouzed @sightedkarma @l0vegl0wsinthedark and anyone else that wants to play!
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godisaknife · 1 month
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I'm gonna be real with you, every wincest take I see relies heavily on fanon interpretations of the characters and their relationships. It's really not as integral as y'all think it is. Don't get me wrong, ship whatever you want, you do you, I just really don't see it. Unhealthy family dynamics? Sure. Parentification? Sure. Incest between Sam and Dean on any level but the show poking fun at the concept? Nope. Not at all. To be totally honest there's a more incestuous dynamic between John and Dean, but even that's mostly emotional incest (which is to do with the unhealthy dynamic of parents putting their feelings and issues onto their kids, it doesn't even have anything specific to do with actual incest). The parallel to Bela and her Dad doesn't help. Idk, I just don't see it. Like Webb Sherman and Keegan Sherman from Bounty Hunters? That's subtextual incest, not whatever is going on with Sam and Dean. Not to mention the characters that do allude to it in-universe are completely tapped themselves and have to be manipulative in order to even keep Sam and Dean together (Azazel - without him Sam would've stayed at Stanford, Zachariah - Dean during 4x17 didn't want to follow his destiny as a hunter and was totally fine parting ways, Soulless Sam himself - he only wanted Dean when he thought he was useful, Dean only stayed with him because of Bobby's speech and Sam potentially killing innocents).
i might say something controversial here but, first of all, i personally think that emotional and psychological incest is enough to be considered incest. especially when it comes to a show that doesn't allow the usage of the word "fuck", because incest is never going to be allowed to be shown on screen or talked about openly, so all we will ever be allowed to hear and see are implications and subtext. dean and john sure do have their own incestual subtext, but i do think that sam and dean have a very strong one on their own, i'd say all one had to do is look it up and plenty of lines and body language taken directly from the show will prove what im talking about. let's see a random example: one of the most recent posts ive reblogged that come to my mind is crowley saying that his valet has hidden a device to locate them in their car and "oh, the things i've heard" followed by dean and sam looking uncomfortably at each other. yes, it's can be a joke but it is heavy in implications. it is not a joke one would even think of making to a couple of normal siblings because if there was no substance to make implications about then the joke wouldn't land as such, as anything at all, because the one making it would come out as a groundless creep and the siblings wouldn't have any reason to be worried or uncomfortable about it. so why do they look so uncomfortable and worried about it? and this is a random example. such little things are scattered throughout the show. and that is only one part of the subtext. the dynamic, the relationship, the history they have, i think all of it is permeated with incest subtext that cannot be made explicit and is, at least to me, more interesting by being covert in a way you have to translate it yourself in order to fully see and understand it. i do not agree with what you said about them held together by other characters' manipulation. i see what you see and i see why one may think so, but outside forces are necesarry to drive characters and their story, in any story there is always an amount of outsider elements. yes, sometimes they are pushed in one or other direction by someone else, but at the end it is them who make the conscious decision to stick with each other, to break the distance, to come back to each other. despite all the things that have happened between them, for one reason or another, they always choose to come back to each other because of their abnormal obsession and love for each other. i got into the show curious as per why wincest is a ship and when i started watching the show i was pleasantly surprised by how obvious their incestual relationship is, especially to an eye trained to notice "fucked up" themes. i'd elaborate more on all of this properly but i'm on withdrawal so this is the best i can do atm
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