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it does not matter who you are! stanley will lie to your face! and trick you into following some rando who's not even dead or gonna die for miles out of town!
👻💀All Frankenghost drawings💀👻
#Gravity falls#Gravity falls au#Frankenghost au#my stuff#there's like a 8 billion people on earth grim reapers not gonna have extensive files on everyone. even special cases#stanleys chillness around weirdness goes very far#after sending grim the complete wrong way he runs inside and shakes ford by the collar as he very poorly explains what just happened#bill knows the grim reaper but they throw hands on sight#i think i am going too off the rails with this now...
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hey. hi. im not dead btw but I def came back wrong 👍
#didn't mean to just fall off the face of the earth lol#but ive been busy reading og marvel runs grinding lords and sleeping 12+ hours a day#prob not back back from my unofficial hiatus#cuz my brain is in shambles but ill be around yk
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Me, to my new date: doctor who thinks it's a sci-fi story because the Doctor thinks it's a sci-fi story and because the companions think it's a sci-fi story, but it's really just a story about ghosts. a story about an ancient creature carrying the ghosts of everyone they have ever loved, meeting new people, and seeing them only as future ghosts. they are haunted by the future and the past and the present because they are the only constant in a world constantly in flux, and they are running as fast as they can to things before they burn and fade to dust but everything will always end, you understand, because this is the only thing the Doctor understands and yet they keep going. they love too much to stop. doctor who is not science-fiction, it's horror and optimism and spiritual more than anything else, it's religious unto itself, the TARDIS is a haunted house and a church and a graveyard and a hospital and the Doctor is the most haunted being in the universe but more than anything, this is a love story, because how can you love something without being haunted by it- hey, what are you doing?
My date, shoving breadsticks in their purse: I have to go-
#more unhinged doctor who meta#doctor who#meta#*into a bullhorn* IT'S A GHOST STORY#ninth doctor#tenth doctor#eleventh doctor#doctor who meta#twelfth doctor#thirteenth doctor#it's abt the time war & dalek & the parting of the ways & doomsday & the last of the time lords & journey's end & angels take manhattan#it's about hell bent and death in heaven and the doctor falls and it takes you away and the woman who fell to earth#it's about the montage of all of the people the doctor has let down#it's about astrid peth and amy pond and rory williams and rose tyler and bill potts and clara oswald and grace o'brien#it's about gaps in memory and memories that live too long to ever heal#the doctor is a haunted house#it's a show about cycles by its very structure#the moment that regeneration became a mechanic for the writers to use and companions began to move out the doctor was DOOMED#but what makes them fascinating is that they see themselves as doomed and blessed at the same time#because they will never ever stop running#clara oswald#amy pond#rose tyler#bill potts#the ghosts are INEVITABLE
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Prompt 299
Hear me out- Ghosts have wings. They have wings, which are affected by their cores, and can make them disappear from sight if they want or need to. You got that? Good.
Ecto-contaminated people? Don’t have wings. Liminals and Halfas, who have developed cores? Do have wings, and they can’t hide said wings, because unlike ghosts? Their bodies are physical living flesh.
Now Gotham? Ecto-contaminated, there’s no doubt about it. The amount of portals that have been opened there and death pits and death cults… yeah it’d be surprising if it wasn’t. But again, no one really notices, because at most? Most just get a bit of eyeshine.
The Bats however? Oh man are they freaking out when they wake up with aches in their back and feathers starting to poke through their skin. Curse? Nope! Welcome to Liminality, enjoy the second puberty of wings, emotion-sharing, fangs, claws, and whatever else you might develop- also enjoy the whole eating fear thing. (Wait, the what-)
#DCxDP#DPxDC#Prompts#Liminal Batfamily#Except for Jason who is straight up a Halfa#Halfa Jason#Comes out from the Pits with massive fuckin wings bursting wide from his back#Which is hilariously how the batfam figure out that Red Hood is Jason almost immediately when he returns to Gotham#And Jason is so wrong-footed the first time he gets utterly slammed with the rest of the fam’s emotions and utter Joy at him being Alive#Jason has albatross-shaped wings that have protruding bones & a glittering underside like an explosion or falling star#In human form they’re more naturalistic red-brown colors with black & white patterning#Bruce’s wings are massive black ones that fade to a gray on the top like a moving shadow#Dick’s is deep blues & flickering stars & dust#Do you see my vision#Shadow Core Bruce#Star Core Jason#Storm Core Dick#Wind Core Tim#Shadow Core Damian#Light Core Cass#Sun Core Duke#Sea Core Steph#Earth Core Barbara#yes this includes metals#yes Steph can control water & paints & has canisters full of glitter water for mischief#Remind me to describe the others’ wings#because I am worried about running out of tags or Tumblr eating them lol#but also imagine ghost chirp au too#And it could even be before the JL have formed or it could be after#But if it's before JL form or early JL I just think it'd be funny if they only know Batman with wings lol
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anyway i just constantly think about how bulma's dad has had a very successful habit of housing and rehabilitating stray animals all her life and it makes a lot of sense that she would know how to fearlessly and carefully handle something dangerous that is puffing up and hissing at her when it feels cornered
#vegeta's just that shelter cat everyone tells you is mean and hates people and bulma's that bitch who knows it just needs time#to adjust and adapt and learn that it can trust you and once it does it is the sweetest most loving cat on the face of the earth#it will fall asleep on you and seek you out for comfort and with enough patience it might even tolerate these other people someday#the cat is maybe ten pounds but will run down and chase off a full grown german shepherd for you with zero hesitation#and that's love baby#dbtag#the way that man just has dinosaurs in his house though. can we talk about dr brief and how insane he is (fond)
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Running too fast to go hug all of your family has consequences sometimes
#dude falling bc he's running to them#gonna cry he's the cutest thing on earth#one piece#monkey d. luffy#egghead
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If RTD is throwing out self-indulgent wish fulfillment leading up to Wish World can I ask for a portal into idk the time war or something that the cast of Gallifrey falls out of with idk a bunch of civilians leading into a secret spinoff where instead of TWBTLAS we get Gallifreyan embassy on Earth political shenanigans while they rebuild Gallifrey for the next few centuries?
The Doctor promptly fucks off, of course.
#RUSSEL PUT MILES RICHARDSON ON MY SCREEN DAMN IT#THE GALLIFREY CAST HAS BEEN DOING THIS FOR TWENTY YEARS THEY DESERVE SOME RECOGNITION#running joke that no one wants to be the ambassador to earth#most of the work dealing with them unfortunately falls to Kate Stewart#doctor who#doctor who expanded universe#gallifrey audios#irving braxiatel#romanadvoratrelundar#leela#narvin
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Listening to The Horse and I was not expecting Is Here to be so serene after Remembers and Is Close... Really wonderful album, thank you for posting about it.
The Horse Is Here now. It's alive and in a moment of peace as just itself. I like that finale because the album is Very focused on the exploitation angle for the most part but the human element (via orchestral score) isn't absent from that moment of serenity for The Horse. There's some level of shared experience between the two animals, the horse as it exists today was shaped in interaction with humans and the total arc of human history (for better and worse) would not have happened without the horse. You can't paint the full picture without both.
I'm really happy the post got Some reblogs and got people listening to it because it's such an important album to me. I'm almost guaranteed to cry at least once on a full listen, and I don't cry easily so that's a pretty big deal lol.
#The album is grappling with some scattered things conceptually but I think it comes together in this really interesting narrative#where the 'human history of music' angle is a parallel to the relationship with a domesticated animal#I also think I project some of my own stuff on it because iirc the composer's angle (while not outright anti-captivity afaik) is focused#almost entirely on the exploitation. Reflected musically by squeezing everything he possibly could out of The Horse. Getting sound samples#from the body and paraphernalia and etc. And I think that angle is definitely critical especially for an animal that's been used#so uniquely in warfare and to run into artillery fire and etc but I Receive a more holistic narrative out of it.#Like I like The Rider (Not The Horse) because it's definitely a moment of transcendence for the human (not the horse) but#I don't see that all that cynically. I think there Can be a lot of beauty in how much we see in other animals that they obviously#do not experience themselves because they're not concerned with Such Things.#(Though tbf it being followed by The Truck arguably places that moment in a more squarely exploitative context)#Getting to ride a horse at full gallop (something I was Very Mad I wasn't allowed to do during my like 2 trail riding experiences as a kid)#and after getting over how bumpy that shit was feeling so excited about how I was Not Falling Off and just absolute joy about how#fast this thing was moving and how strong this huge fucking animal is and how cool it is that people have been doing this for centuries.#It's so much different than just Going Fast in a car because it's an interaction between two sentient beings and you're being lent#the abilities of an animal other than yourself and getting just a tiny taste of being something other than human.#Just completely exhilarating. The horse is not experiencing All This of course but according to her handler she showed clear signs#of being in a very good mood and was notably perked up once she got to start running full tilt.#(And sure we could not know For Sure that this was actually the case but horses are very expressive and this person was very#experienced with horses and this animal in particular so I think it's safe to take her word for it)#Our emotions are felt differently than other animals because we have such complex subjective experiences informed by language#and culture and identity and at least the raw psychological impulses towards spirituality (whether you actually have spiritual#beliefs or not) but like there's underlying things that are the same. In that moment both animals involved in the interaction were#what we call Happy. Big moment for the rider and small moment for the horse but both are experiencing an overlapping Thing.#This isn't Always the case. The moment of transcendence for The Rider could be boredom or pain for The Horse but the overlap can#and does happen.#Yeah Matthew Herbert is representing the notion of extracting as much as possible out of The Horse in his audio sampling but his#actions themselves aren't that exploitative extraction. He's using the remains of an already dead animal to make music as we have#for millennia and assembling all these resources to honor this animal and make really beautiful art about it.#Anyway that's a long winded way of describing what I experience in this album. Kind of the full spectrum of the human/domestic animal#relationship which spans horrific exploitation and mutual necessity and veneration and love and being Two Animals On Earth
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*whistles a tune* Don't mind me, I'm just gonna tag all of my fandoms so I can see how many wild fellow fans I can find /silly
(There's so much more fandoms I'm in that I can't put them all in the tags HELP-)
#sonic the hedgehog#sun and moon show#lunar and earth show#five nights at freddy's#splatoon#creepypasta#my little pony#deltarune#undertale#genshin impact#marvel universe#deadpool#wwe#madness combat#bluey#furry fandom#transformers#gorillaz#vocaloid#hatsune miku#lego ninjago#lego movie#cookie run kingdom#hazbin hotel#helluva boss#gravity falls#doom#doom eternal#animal jam
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Well I succumbed and watched the Pilot and first ep of Due South last night.
Really struck me how central the theme of Fraser's estrangement from his father is in the Pilot. Fraser mentioning that the last time they spoke was Christmas, essentially saying that the only times they speak are presumably brief calls at holidays. Gerard responding with a platitude - "I guess the more you know someone, the less needs to be said" - but it becomes quite clear that Fraser feels he doesn't know Bob at all, and has to learn about him through his journals.
And yet they're cut from the same cloth: "I always thought your father was the last of a kind. I was wrong - you are." And this is tied to the mountie stereotype lol.
Bob and Fraser both repeat the lines, "You're going to shoot a mountie? They'll hunt you to the ends of the earth," and they're both wrong. No one wants to pursue Bob Fraser's death except Fraser, and no one's happy with Fraser for solving the case because it uncovered corruption. He gets exiled for it. Bob and Fraser are the only mounties who "always get their man," lol, and it's because of Bob's neglect in the course of duty that Fraser follows in his footsteps and becomes so similar to Bob. He idealizes his father and wanted to grow up to be just like him - we can see that admiration in the drawing of him he finds in Bob's things that he made when he was a child eg, or in the song Superman that plays while Fraser reads his journal in the diner. But he doesn't know him. And he pursues duty above all else because he has nothing else of his father.
And then you have Ray, who seems to exist as the opposite of Bob. If there's one thing Ray is, it's there. He is there for Fraser to hunt down suspects, to invite him to a loud family dinner, to save him from an explosion, he tracks him down to apologize for being dismissive, to invite him to dinner, and he flies to the Yukon when he can't reach him by phone. In the diner scene in particular he's directly positioned as a contrast to Bob's absence both in life and death. Fraser is alone trying to understand his father through his journals (looking for something "he missed" ie his dad), and Ray joins him, ending the thematically significant song montage, and eases his solitude. Fraser says he doesn't have family, and Ray shares his own with him.
And after the pilot case, there's nothing drawing them together except friendship. They're not a mismatched pair of cops assigned together who have to learn to get along, they work together unofficially because they can't help but spend every waking moment together.
Bob represents absence and Ray represents presence, distant admiration vs actually knowing someone.
And I'll probably have more to say on that as like, poles Fraser is caught between, if/as I rewatch more of the show. Ray's position is a little muddy especially because pre VS he buys into Fraser's image to an extent, as pointedly examined in Heaven and Earth. But again, more on that another time.
#due south#boy do i have thoughts on heaven and earth that have been percolating for twenty years#i won't know for sure unless i rewatch it all but i feel like the first season is very thematically coherent and then it kinda#falls apart and gets muddy and contradictory. i last watched season 1 in 2014 and that was how i felt then at least#actually i'd say pilot -> vault is a cohesive thematic narrative and everything after that is extra. maaaaybe bird in the hand#marley on due south#text post#i don't think this will subsume my mash thing - it's an old nostalgia run and those never really become main fandoms - but i do think#it'll make a great side thing for a little bit#i never got the chance to talk much about this show back when i was first into it because i was a lurker then
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#i am the only person on earth who finds angel's abuse to be written Fine like. at best#idkkk they had me in bl2 but after 3 is just really feels like they have a vendetta against abused kids#especially canonizing the fact that angel killed her mom in 3#like ohhh yes every parent has definite justifications for abusing their children#yes angel really was a dangerous monster and jack was correct to see her that way because she did just murder his wife#does that excuse his actions of course not!!! however there ever being a 'reason' for the abuse always ruins it for me#and considering the implication was that she killed her mom before anyway but it was just left a little vague. it's canon i can't avoid that#but it just feels so so cheap every time. i am not a fan!!#i think the calypsos also ended up highlighting a lot of issues with the way the gearbox writers handle it#especially towards women#yes. i am keeping in mind that troy was the quiet and nice abused child while tyreen was the inherently violent one#like. gearbox just really hates to see a woman that was abused by her father it's craaaazy to me#moxxi and ellie as well. it's crazy how scooter's death is treated eith more respect than ellie and moxxi's abuse they still run from in 2#like idkkkk when you look at how blands treats abused women as a whole i really think angel stops being this beacon of fantastic writing#she falls into all the same patterns every other abused woman does#she is violent. she is treated like a tool by the writers. her abuse has a certain turning point in which it starts#idk. maybe the real cheap thing is portraying jack as a stand-up guy around his child prior to the abuse starting#idk. i'm tired and disorganized and i am forever and always very mad at gearbox so#generally my two cents is a borderlands woman will always be hindered by the male writers who hate that she has daddy issues#you can tell the writer's room is male dominated and very easily is all#<- all of this tells me i need to learn about aurelia more. i am sooo curious how they actually handle her#it is unfortunate her playstyle is doodoobootyasscheeks for me. but i shall persevere#rant
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I bring a "making fun of christians may be a cathartic healing process for people leaving the Church but it's also not a very nice thing to do so maybe keep it confined to your inner circle and not the entire internet" vibe that atheists don't really like
#the amount of reddit atheism thoughts i have on the daily now#that i react to by going 'wow. a year ago I would have started panicking and begging God for mercy for thinking that. I'm so glad I left.'#its great for me but good God I would NEVER post them to the internet#because like why would i ruin some poor christian's day who is just tryna vibe#like it does work for some people and it does improve lives and i dont want to take that away#but personally it caused me so much guilt and self-loathing that I think I'll take my chances with Hell.#I do still believe God exists but I don't believe He cares about us. I think He kinda made the universe and left it running#and the only time He'd maybe interfere is if there's some cataclysmic universe-ending event and not if you're a little sad or smth#which of course doesn't stop me from living my life believing that Hell is waiting for me. esp since i still go to Mass#because if i ever stopped going i think my dad would fall into depression. and i dont want that so i gotta pretend#but damn. these things really know how to make me feel like I'm the scum of the earth and deserve to be tortured! lovely!
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i have this thing where if i love an actor, i try to squish the personalities and the stories of their different characters into one specific character so. any idea how i can make legolas a pirate.
#I MEAN#i did develop some thought in my head about it#like obv pirates exist in the lord of the rings universe#and i thought about legolas having problems with his father (bc him having daddy issues is canon fr) and just running away#and then getting involved with pirates because I SAID SO#and meanwhile aragorn is a prince of gondor and they somehow meet and fall in love#and then get married on a ship in the middle of the battle#basically the pirates of the caribbean but it's lord of the rings too ykwim#this is what happens when orlando bloom plays both my favourite sexy elf and my favourite sexy pirate#crys' middle earth stuff#lord of the rings#legolas#aralas
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thinking... been thinking for ages now... bigtop burger but killer klowns au
#steve as a killer klown that runs the bigtop burger restaurant from the movie#buddy got thrown out of the klown spaceship for trying to free a bunch of humans during the last invasion#he somehow survived the fall to earth but woke up only after several years#he conveniently wakes up near crescent cove and heads here#meets tim almost instantly#to his surprise tim just gives him some cash to buy a burger#I must mention steve definitely wouldn't eat humans in this version#dude hunts forest creatures like elks and boars I bet#he's got a closet in his office (real office this time rest in rip 💔) filled with suspicious cotton candy cocoons#with cesare I thinkkkk hm. well#I don't think upper management exists in this version the way it does in the original#with the vibes of killer klowns I think it'd probably be a facility that captures cryptids and aliens and stuff#so cesare is an agent working for that facility#maybe like.. an artificially revived dead guy#steve may have a whole restaurant but I think cesare should still have a zombie themed food truck#season 3 is gonna be wild in this au#speaking of season 3#after cesare captures steve I wanted to make it so that munkustrap shows up with the other klowns#but specifically to launch another klown invasion#peanut and dots are here btw#peanut would probably be munkustrap's assistant or something#dots would normally make acid pies for the other clowns but she'd be allowed to explore earth this time#before you ask uhhh she was probably a klown larva that steve used to look after before he “betrayed” the other klowns#she's grown up since then but still lacks some powers#I aaugh#I'll sketch some stuff I prommy
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early op/dc au fic plot points
in honor of finding my notes finally after five months have passed since writing them and after i just wrote out a huge block of what happens during part one of the fic relying entirely on memory and wit alone, here are some freebie things-that-will-definitely-happen (and just random Things to throw in between) to think over while i'm trying to get back into writing this fic
also tagging @kiteou who created jason/sabo and 100% inspired this verse (please look at their ship art it's all so impeccably goooood)
sabo wears make-up to cover his scar when he goes crime fighting and chooses to hunt criminals in a distant district of gotham to avoid being recognized since he doesn't wear a mask
though he doesn't weak a mask, he does adorn a large tophat with a wide brim and uses the shade to conceal his face from view; when he runs into jason and snarls about a hero not posibly wearing a fucking full-face helmet mask, jason argues back about protecting his identity and accuses sabo of being a hypocrite since his hat also hides his face
jason quotes old literature sabo has never heard of when he's trying to make the most of a situation (so rarely) and sabo scribbles illegible-chicken-scratch words in tattered notebooks when he needs to vent about Life in general (it's maybe his goal at some point to create an autobiography of life in gotham and how much It Sucks, Bad™)
sabo using a metal pipe as his choice weapon reminds jason of damian (he's in his bo staff days) in kind of a fond but wary way - this does not last; at some point the pipe scraping against concrete or brick sets jason off, triggering something in his subconsciousness bad enough to make him lose focus in a fight, and it gets to the point where he tells sabo they can't fight together anymore if he's gonna continue to use the pipe as a weapon
ace and sabo are 19 in the beginning because it takes place in fall, and jason is newly 20 - because of this, sabo is 5'9 and ace 6'0 but sabo wears platform and heeled (the heel is inside so it's not visible) boots when he plays vigilante so he's taller than jason by a couple inches; at some point when ace meets jason he implicates sabo's true height and sabo shouts at him (shut the fuck up, ace!) before ace can finish; even later on, sabo ends up at jason's apartment and when his shoes come off, he stands shorter than jason, much to jason's surprise; sabo admits gruffly that being over six foot makes a person more intimidating, which is his goal at night when facing off with criminals, but also insists that he's still growing (which he is, and eventually he doesn't need the boots to stand at 6'2 properly); even though ace is (barely) taller than sabo (just like he's barely older than sabo), he's still shorter than jason, which rubs him the wrong way (and sets off the comment about sabo's alleged height)
while ace is just trying to survive in gotham, owing nothing to the city that's chewed them both up in childhood and spit them back out again in adolescence, sabo chooses vigilantism in a bid to 'just do what's right, or at least try to'
^ going with this, ace and sabo both have awakened meta-genes that grant them fire powers; ace got his first and is proficient in using his powers - in contrast, sabo develops his after his accident that leaves a portion of his upper body scarred, and refuses to train or even try and control/subdue his powers at all due to his intense fear of fire; this causes daily strife because ace should be able to coach sabo through developing (or at the very least, getting under control) his powers so they don't cause accidents all the time, being the more experienced and honed of the two, but because he's never willing to overstep and always afraid of reigniting sabo's trauma, he never pushes sabo toward what should be the reasonable solution
aaaaaaaa smth smth jason being more experienced in relationships but none of them ever going well, versus sabo who's never been in love and doesn't know how to act, doesn't know how to be vulnerable in front of another person (who's not ace, but even then) or what's considered normal for their relationship status, and eventually having to tell all of this to jason to dispel some worries threatening to make him sick; jason tries his best to insist that sabo doesn't need to act a specific or certain way and that they were going to figure this out together and find what worked for them; in the beginning their "romantic" relationship is super dysfunctional and not much different from their status before when they were just friends, but it slowly becomes more functional when they start to clue in to what they and each other want out of this
i CANNOT find my notes which makes me sick (< actually i did!!! not long after i wrote this which makes me SO mad in hindsight) but in this verse jason runs around with roy harper and artemis crock, who are roughly the same age as him and sabo but have the dynamic they do in earth-16 when they're (sibling) in-laws, meaning, they get along like a tight pair and often will team up to lovingly tease jason whenever the opportunity present itself; when they're introduced to sabo, the initial reaction is them recounting ('oh so this is the boy you're always mentioning') various things jason has said about him and then low-key embarrassing the both of them with their teasing, so it takes a bit for sabo to warm up to them
after sabo is burned by a lighter and his make-up runs, jason believes his old face scars to be part of the fresh injury and rushes sabo to leslie's clinic to get seen; sabo is bandaged up and none of the staff ask questions about the vigilantism that would (tie him w illegal activity) but in the beginning when someone asks sabo a basic question in regards to the injury, sabo clams up; jason has to snap at him that (leslie) was a doctor and not the fucking cops, so would sabo please put an ounce of trust in someone for once and let them take care of him; sabo relents and lets himself be treated
when he arrives home with his eye covered, ace is shocked because sabo never lets anyone but ace bandage him up; ace asks what (the fuck) happened and sabo clams up, flinches back when ace tries to reach for the wrap, and snaps at him to leave it because an actual medical professional treated him for once; ace says smth like 'but you always let me patch you up' and sabo appeases him by saying he can redress the wound later when it needed changing, but right now, he wants it left alone; later ace gets to see the damage and immediately realizes sabo got burned which terrifies him, putting sabo's shying away from him earlier into a new light, and ace takes on a new perspective when he helps sabo tend to the injury in order to frighten sabo as little as possible
sabo lives with ace and rouge until zero year, when their apartment floods and rouge gets sick and eventually dies in the hospital without proper medical care; without rouge, neither of them go back to the house in coventry and instead spend most of the remainder of zero year in a church - despite spending a good portion of their upbringing from that point on around clergymen, sabo refuses to believe in a god that would let him and ace to suffer through life to the extent that they had, and when ace curses 'god damn' or 'oh god' sabo isn't even willing to humor it, always blunting insisting 'there is no god' that ace in turn always counters with 'it's an expression, sabo, it doesn't have to mean anything'
aaaaaaaand since i've been sitting on this intro for a good six months now here's a small actual written pv :)
(if tumblr blurs the ss just click on it and it'll clear up)
#op#dc#writing#little longer than intended but this is maybe 10% of the beginning so its fiiiiiine#idk how many yrs this fic is gonna span thru but tbh#i dont see either falling for e/o quickly or even in a normal amnt of time#its not slowburn but their relationship progression is slow af#somewhere in their twenties at least so sabo can cash in on the height diff bc its cute af to look at#anyway the last dc comic run i read in full was the dark knights of steel series....... DOES IT SHOW AAAAA#for anyone expecting this to be all one standardized timeline that makes sense: gonna disappoint you right now#do not set your expectations high bc dc verse has always been a mess n its not my job to sort thru it to write au fic#ig this is loosely post-2011 continuity (w/e earth number that is)#but also no its not bc there are elements from so many other things#im gonna regret shoving this one into the ao3 dc comics tag but in true xover ship fashion i will be doing so regardless#anyway x2 if any of this appeals to you PLSSSSS go look at kiteous art its so so sosososo good
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that issue you read is like one of the only times i see the vision for selina x talia
unfortunately their other interactions arent as good
I don't really ship them too much (as in, them being my no.1 ship. It does compell me in an AU setting) but I did enjoy that despite it starting off with a bit of a catfight it didn't derail to that too much. By they end they were both like "well Bruce will just never commit I guess" and leave together, which was cute, albeit a bit insane because it makes no sense for them to still bother with him. But it's also pretty metatexual. Bruce has always been a very James Bond-esque character, which includes him having a big roaster of love interests. DC will never let him settle down like they did with Clark.
#I think that the love interest with the strongest endgame potential is selina#since they did get married on earth 2 which back in the day was often seen as a glimpse into the future of earth 1#and was the biggest established elseworld. earth two has more comic runs that any other universe that isn't the main one#but we saw how that ended up in TK's run. and the wedding falling apart was very much editorial's doing#anon#answered
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