#flapjack the cardinal palismen

[rockymountainqueen2]

More Thanks To Them's storyboards!

Cute sibling moment between Luz and Hunter that ended up getting cut.

Source: https://www.hayleynwong.com/work/the-owl-house-samples

[drinker-of-paint]

Philip's brother when Philip started getting spooky

[paondya]

he deserves to rest.

[theaceofarrows]

Happy 1 year anniversary to the introduction of this sassy little angel. You have forever changed the way I see cardinals

[metalatias5]

for my TOH fic Alternative Powersource

They’re chipped crown buddies now ^^

[thatoneparrot]

my flapjack hc is that if he could talk, he would sound like gilbert gottfried. because every bird ever does

[probablyjustturtle]

Ok but that theory about a blue jay being Liz's palisman makes sense. Also the one that a Clawthorne made Flapjack makes a bit of sense too in turn with a Clawthorne being the witch that fell in love with Caleb Wittebane.

I will explain in one sentence

Every Clawthorne we have seen has a bird palisman.

Not to mention Del's palisman looks a lot like Flapjack.

[jelly-belly-fish]

THE OWL HOUSE SPOILER WARNING!!

So… I have a theory about these two.

People keep talking about how Flapjack and this yellow cardinal are both Caleb and Evelyn’s palismen. Some say yellow belonged to Caleb, and Flapjack belonged to Evelyn. Well, I think it’s the other way around in my opinion. For it was hinted at in “Thanks to Them” Flapjack was a gift to Caleb from Evelyn. So my proposal is this:

The yellow cardinal was Caleb’s gift to Evelyn. He made them as as either a “wedding proposal” gift (instead of a ring), or just as a thank you gift for her being so kind to him. Either way, if this is true, notice this:

Caleb was gold/yellow color coordinated.

The cardinal he gifted to Evelyn was yellow.

Evelyn was red color coordinated.

Flapjack is a red cardinal.

The two had palismen that reflected each other’s partner.

Caleb’s gift was a thank you to Evelyn for letting him be a witch.

Evelyn’s gift was to show how much she cared for him.

And to really hit the point home.

Cardinals mate for life.

The two were soulmates.

And their palismen reflected each other’s love for one another.

Thank you for coming to my TedTalk.

[astriiformes]

Luz has a conversation with her friends about how they can’t just take their palismen everywhere in the Human Realm, except afterwards she pulls aside Amity and Hunter for a corollary that’s like

Luz: Okay! So the rules are actually a little different for you guys since your palismen look like normal Human Realm animals.

Luz: Amity, Ghost still can’t go everywhere, but cats are super common here and lots of people keep them as pets, so if you want to play with her outside or even bring her on a walk it’ll be fine. People might just ask if they can pet her.

Amity: Oh! That’s great news!

Hunter, hopefully: What about Flapjack?

Luz: Sooooo unfortunately it is really really illegal to have cardinal and you are going to need to keep your distance from him if we’re out in public. Sorry my man, it’s a whole thing.

Hunter, now about to start a one-grimwalker war against the Migratory Bird Treaty Act: You’ve got to be kidding me. I hate it here.

[fingolfinwiththesteelchair]

TOH Palismen: Flapjack

Because they don't migrate and are fierce defenders of their territories, cardinals are often associated with the home. They are considered good luck, and are associated with spirits

[whisperwillyou]

Do you have any good Hunter fics that are long and non romantic up your sleeve? Super not asking for a friend it’s for me

*rolls up my sleeves* oh buddy DO I EVER

Fair warning, I’m an angst gremlin so these all contain a healthy dose of the Sads™ but considering you’re also a Hunter fan, odds are you also enjoy the angst lmaoo

Most of these are Luz and Hunter-centric bc I love the Noceda Siblings and I’m nothing if not predictable 😌

Let us begin…

What We are is the Sum of a Thousand Lies

Ongoing 59k+

FAV FAV FAV FAV FAV my all time favorite fic, they captured both my FAVORITE flavor of Hunter characterization, AND my favorite flavor of Luz & Hunter interactions (+bonus Eda, Darius, & Flapjack!) it’s just *chef kiss* PEAK content. I reread it regularly

Contingency

Ongoing 108k

Inside you there are two wolves, one is a sad lil boy and the other is the psychological embodiment of the obedient, brainwashed, soldier you were created to be, which your uncle programmed into you when he built you in his evil lab.

Burnt Out

Complete 3K

This one’s a short one but it’s one of my favs so I had to include it. ✨Sic fic✨

Even Sad Birds Still Sing

Ongoing 54k+

Hunter gets turned into a cardinal by a cursed gemstone. Ngl when the first chapter of this fic came out I thought it was gonna be more of a crack fic. I was unbelievably wrong and it is so SO good.

La Gaundière

Complete 12k

This one is some really good post Hunting Palismen Golden Gaurd era Hunter

To be or Not to Be

Ongoing 28k

Hunter takes some ‘me time’ after Hollow Minds and camps. He has a horrible time.

Peak traumatized Hunter seasoned with some great Noceda siblings content and a garnish of Hunter and Hooty friendship. 👌

Blood Moon

Ongoing 48k

Honestly I don’t know how to summarize this fic without spoiling anything, so just trust me, it’s so good.

Your hands do more than Hurt

Ongoing 27k

Darius and Hunter-centric, mind the tags though, this is a sad one

With Clay and Star Scraps

Complete (open ended) 48k

Hunter discovers that being a grimwalker comes with some super fun, funky, and not at all distressing side effects.

Enough to Leave Scars

Complete 14k

Post King’s Tide shenanigans of a former child soldier. ie ptsd

Oop hit the link limit lol rip

Learned Response

Complete 11k

Hunter fabulously misinterprets Luz’s relationship with her mother like the traumatized autistic he is.

With His Beak He Tries to Soothe Me

Complete 10K

Some really sweet Hunter and Flapjack content

Refuge

ongoing 10k+

Camila adjusting to having four new kids under her roof and is unsure what to make of Hunter being… the way he is.

The Golden Brat

Complete 5k+

Coven Scout meeting the Golden Guard for the first time in person: “what’s with this sassy lost child?”

Hopefully you enjoy these!

Special thanks to all theses authors for the platonic content. You’re doing the lords work, feeding us starving lil’ AroAces 💕💕

[rockymountainqueen2]

A funny moment from Thanks To Them's storyboards that I desperately wish had made it into the actual episode.

Source: https://www.hayleynwong.com/work/the-owl-house-samples

[immortalmint]

How many people on the Boiling Isles are related to Caleb? And are Dell and/or Gwendolyn related?

In The Owl House, there is strong evidence the Clawthornes are related to Caleb Wittebane and Evelyn (Clawthorne?). Many fans point to a connection through Gwendolyn, via the ‘lyn family suffix shared by Gwendolyn, Edalyn, and Evelyn. There is also Gwendolyn’s family knowledge of a human previously living in Bonesborough:

“My great-grandmother told me about a human who once lived here. But one day he just vanished. Rumor has it he left something in the library, and if you can find out more about him...”

A Gwendolyn connection is very plausible. We’ll get into family resemblances later.

But a connection through Dell has merit as well, given his palisman’s striking resemblance to Flapjack. We’ll call our yellow cardinal Biscuit for now. (Biscuits were ship rations in the late 1500s onward, and absolutely have been eaten for breakfast. They work in any meal. Every meal. Caleb was poor and hungry, okay?)

The visual clues we get are intermingled between Dell, Caleb, Biscuit, and Flapjack. When Dell is first injured by the Owl Beast, the red blood over his closed eye makes the same shape as Flapjack’s scar. Both Dell and Flapjack are wounded in the same eye, their left. These wounds share symbolic similarities, as they were both from family members: Dell’s injury was caused unintentionally by Eda when she was startled and turned into in Owl Beast form, and Flapjack’s injury likely occurred during Philip’s failed attempt to murder his sister-in-law Evelyn and Philip’s (also unintentional?) murder of his brother Caleb.

(As for physical appearance, note the similar nose shape between middle-aged Dell and teenage Hunter in the screenshots below.)

Looking at older Dell, the scar’s color and shape greatly resembles Flapjack’s head. Both Flapjack and Biscuit have two-peaks of feathers crowning their heads, similar shaped face and chest feather patterns, bicolor wings of light and dark from their respective color pallets, and identically shaped feet. These birds were clearly a matched set, Biscuit likely being carved by Caleb to complement Evelyn’s Flapjack. Sometime after Evelyn’s death, Flapjack presumably left for the Bat Queen, and Biscuit stayed on with the family (I strongly believe Biscuit was Caleb’s palisman, and bonded with his young daughter to relay the love of the father she was deprived of). Biscuit continues to stay with the family to this day, adopting a young witch every 3 to 4 generations. She now belongs with Dell.

It’s also telling that all the Clawthorne family palismen are birds.

If you’re wondering why Biscuit is a she, check out the Northern Cardinal, which is quite common in Connecticut. I took pictures from this lovely bird website: https://www.allaboutbirds.org/guide/Northern_Cardinal/id

Male Northern Cardinals are red, and females are supposedly “brown,” but if you told me that bird looked yellow, I’d agree with you.

What about family appearance? We’ve compared Dell to Caleb/Hunter. So let’s take a look at Evelyn. We’ve got a lot less to go on here. Just a few memory photos from Philip’s mindscape. But from what we can see, Evelyn has impressively full hair very similar to Gwendolyn and Eda. The washed out colors of the photo make it difficult to determine an exact hair color, but brown to reddish-brown seems plausible.

Looking at the Clawthornes, we see various shades of brown, red, and orange (yeah… I know they’re still called redheads, but that’s because the word ‘orange’ wasn’t in the language when redheads first showed up.) These are all plausible hair colors for the descendants of Caleb and Evelyn.

Am I saying that both Gwendolyn and Dell are related to Caleb and Evelyn?

Yes!

Yes, I am.

‘But isn’t that gross?’ you may wonder.

Eh, not really. They’re around 13 generations away from their shared common ancestor, Caleb and Evelyn’s daughter. We’ll call her Caylyn for convenience. With each generation, the percentage of DNA from a relative goes down by half. Example: You share 50% of your DNA with your mom, but only 25% of your DNA with your grandpa. The calculation is 1/(2^generation) x 100%, where that little ^ character means “to the power of.” So by the time we get to Dell and Gwendolyn, each would only have 1/(2^13) x 100% = 0.012% shared DNA. That’s very low risk for hereditary birth defects. You probably don’t have your own family tree documented well enough to avoid hooking up with your 13th cousin.

‘But what are the odds of two Caylyn relatives hooking up?’

After 13+ generations on an island? It’s more likely than you think!

Now that you’ve been lured in with screenshots and pretty birds, it’s time to get to my favorite part: MATH!

I mean, EVEN MORE MATH!

And dates. Yeah. They’re important too.

From Masha’s account, in 1613, the orphans Philip and Caleb Wittebane arrive in Gravesfield. Based on how small the boys are compared to a butter churner meant for adults, it’s safe to assume Caleb is 10 or younger. Philip is likely 7 or younger.

Now fast-forward to Evelyn’s pregnancy. Philip has a full beard in this photo, which means he’s at least 18, more likely in his early-to-mid 20s (most white males can’t grow a full beard until their 20s). That would put the date sometime between 1625 and 1630 for Caylyn’s birth.

To simplify our generational model, we’re going to assume that Caylyn was born in 1625 and that she and her descendants had 2 surviving children each when they were approximately 25 years old. That means in 1650, Caylyn had 2 children, and Evelyn became a grandmother.

If you’re wondering about my assumptions, the birthrate didn’t fall below 2 children in the USA until the 1970s. And before 1800, the birthrate was over 7 children! But when we look back at the 1600s-1800s, 40-50% of children died before adulthood, leaving only 3.5-4 children surviving to have kids of their own. I went with the assumption of 2 children per generation to account for additional factors such as people deciding not to have kids or cultural differences in family sizes that may have existed in the Boiling Isles. In all likelihood, Caleb’s descendants had a higher birthrate than 2. But we’ll stick with 2 to be conservative, and to make the math easy to see the effects of doubling!

Let’s finish the century out with 4 great-grandchildren (2 x 2, or 2^2) in 1675 and 8 great-great-grandchildren (2 x 2 x 2, or 2^3) by 1700. We get another 4 generations of descendants every century after this. So, by 1800, we have 128 (2^7). By 1900, we have 2,048 (2^11). And by the year 2000, we have 32,768 (2^15) new babies born related to a human! That’s a lot of people! And if we add together the most recent 3 generations, there’s even more living relations to Caleb on the Isles. At least 57,344 people!

Dell and Gwendolyn are 13 generations away from Caylyn, with birthdays approximately in 1950. I get this date based on Eda being in her mid to late 40s at the start of The Owl House (2020) according to Dana Terrance (so Eda’s birthday is ~1975). Her parents would be ~25 years older than her. So, when Dell and Gwendolyn meet, our number is around 8,192 (2^13) descendants of Caleb in their generation. And in all likelihood, Caleb’s descendants are more concentrated on the forearm where Evelyn originally lived. This makes it extremely likely that at least some of Caleb’s descendants marry each other.

How likely? First we need to know the approximate population of the Boiling Isles in the 1950s. Dana Terrance said the BI is roughly the size of Vermont in this interview. And in 1950, Vermont had a population of 377,700. We’ll use this as our rough population number for the 1950s BI. For the group born in 1950 (8,192 of which are descendants of Caleb), they make up 2.17% of the total population. But if we think about the number of people in that generation who would marry someone of similar age, we’re looking at the 20-30 year-old bracket, which is about 10% of the total population, or 37,770 people. And 8,192 is 21.7% of the people in Dell and Gwendolyn’s generation (gen 13). It isn’t a question of if two Caleb descendants got married, it’s a question of how many marriages!

(If you’re curious: [chance of person 1 being a Caleb descendant] x [chance of person 2 being a descendant] x [half of gen 13 population], because we’re looking at pairs of people, not individuals. So 21.7% of 21.7% = 4.7% of marriages in gen 13, times half the gen 13 population (18,885) is 887 marriages!)

Dell and Gwendolyn both being descendants of Caleb isn’t even that rare! The Clawthornes are one of multiple families where both sides of the family can claim human ancestry. It’s amazing how far one person’s genetics can spread in 400 years of breeding!

Alright, let’s get back to the main question: How many people on the Boiling Isles are related to Caleb?

By the Day of Unity (2022), we’re close enough to generation 16 (2025), which is 65,536 (2^16) babies, that we can look at a range between 2020 and 2025. In 2020, the 3 generations alive are 8,192 (2^13), 16,384 (2^14), and 32,768 (2^15), or 57,344 total living descendants. In 2025, the 3 generations alive are 16,384 (2^14), 32,768 (2^15), and 65,536 (2^16), or 114,688 total living descendants. In 2022, Vermont had a total population of 647,064 people, and we’re assuming the Boiling Isles population grew similarly. So we have between 8.9% and 17.8% of the BI population related to Caleb on the Day of Unity.

Belos wasn’t only attempting genocide against witches. Philip Wittebane was trying to kill thousands of his own relatives.

Food for thought.

[aetherjay]

Autistic Hunter Week - Day 1: Special Interest/Infodump

Given how much he loves Flapjack, and the importance of Palistrom wood in making Grimwalkers, I think he would take an interest in Palismen in general! Also it's just a good excuse to draw a bunch of them with him. Outfit definitely inspired a bit by the official art of him with the cardinal patterned top.

[animationadventures]

Thanks to Them hit hard.

It started out sweet with the reunion between Luz and Camila that everyone was waiting for. Then, they jumped straight into the montage.

It really sucks that the season was shortened so severely. They obviously had so many ideas for human realm episodes.

Setting up shop in the old shack

Luz coming out to Camila

Vee figuring out who she is outside of covering for Luz’s absence

Hunter getting his haircut to separate himself from the Wittebane brothers

Attempts at making a working portal

The witches figuring out a new wardrobe to fit in better

Camila figuring out how to support six kids

They had to cram all these ideas they wanted to explore in a 2-minute montage!

Flapjack helped them find a clue how to get back, but they had to visit the historical society to decode it. Vee had to pretend she didn’t know one of her camp friends with her new identity, and we got a cameo from Jacob later still trying to prove witches exist. He got tackled by police officers.

We got confirmation on the name of Luz’s dad. His name was Manny, and it sounded like he got sick and passed away slowly instead of quickly in a crash or accident. He gave Luz her first Azura book, which she obviously latched onto, and taught her the meat guts trick for plays. The thing with the Azura book likely parallels Dana’s own story of her father giving her the first Pokémon game before dying when she was young.

We also got confirmation for Caleb’s Clawthorne wife. Everyone who guessed her name was close to Eda’s, you got it right. Her name was Evelyn.

Just as some predicted, Philip found a way to possess Hunter and saving Hunter from his control was the climax. And because of the Titan’s Blood in the area, Luz was finally able to use her glyphs again. Her palisman hasn’t hatched yet. I thought it would happen here, but it didn’t. Maybe next part?

Philip somehow hasn’t died yet. Guy is worse than a cockroach at this rate.

The secrets about Hunter being a grimwalker and Luz helping Philip meet the Collector came out. Everyone understands how used both were by him.

The toughest part of this whole special?

Flapjack didn’t make it.

He had gave his life to make sure Hunter didn’t die from Philip’s possession. I never thought I would get emotional over a little cardinal that is entirely fictional, but here I am mourning him.

Should have guessed with Philip’s whole absorb palisman life force plot thread, one of the palismen would die.

The group did find a way back to the demon realm. Luz intended to stay behind as she promised her mom, but Camila instead chose to go to the isles with the kids. For the sake of her mental health, Vee chose to stay behind and cover Camila’s absence at work.

Only two more episodes, guys.

This can’t be real.

[hxney-lemcn]

Are you gonna do part 2 to Homage? Of course if you are busy or just don't feel like it take your time and rest :) i just really like the fic and your writing! You're amazing!

Summary: Reader introduces Hunter to what pancakes are.

tw: none.

a/n: Sorry that I skipped a request to do this one, I just got inspiration for this one first.

wc: 0.8k

Master List

“So palismen can choose their familiar?” I asked with wide eyes. “Do you think I could get one if I went to your world?” 

“Yeah,” Hunter nodded. “Theoretically.”

Hunter was at my house, explaining the magic that was in the demon realm. When I offered to hang out with Hunter, I didn’t actually expect us to hang out on our own. Luz was very adamant and set the entire thing up to be fair. It was kind of awkwards at first, us both sitting in silence. I brought up the topic of magic and he’s been going on explaining everything in great detail. It was really interesting.

“I’m…sorry,” He said sheepishly, looking down at his palisman. “I know my voice is annoying.”

I looked at him confused, “I don’t think so. I…I think it’s nice.”

He looked up at me with wide eyes, “Oh.”

Feeling embarrassed? I’m not exactly sure what I was feeling, but it made me want to change the subject. 

“So does your palisman have a name?” I asked. His palisman was a little red cardinal that had a scar over its left eye. It fit him. 

“Uh, yeah,” Hunter replied, picking up the cardinal. “His name is Flapjack.”

“Flapjack?” I asked in surprise. I felt a smile curl onto my lips, “Like a pancake?”

“Pancake?” He asked in confusion. His magnta eyes searched mine, like he’d magically find the definition.

“You guys don’t have pancakes?” I asked, flabbergasted. He shook his head slowly, reminding me of a kid who just got scolded. “Omg I need to…you need to try one. I think we’ve got a pancake mix.” 

I stood up from my bed, walking quickly to the kitchen. My mom paid us no mind as I searched the cabinets. I heard Flapjack chirp and Hunter hush it, but I ignored it. My mission was more important. Mission, introduce Hunter to the wonderful world of pancakes and breakfast foods. I let out a victorious ‘yes!’ as I indeed found the pancake mix. I checked the expiration date, just in case. I mean I don’t really cook often and my mom’s too busy too. 

I quickly gathered the other ingredients, not like there were many more, and got the batter ready. I put a pan on the stove and set it to medium heat, now waiting for it to heat up as I got out butter.

“Are you sure this is safe?” Hunter asked. 

“Yeah,” I nodded, buttering the pan. “It's a pancake mix, so most of the ingredients are already mixed for you. That’s why I just had to add milk, to make it a batter.”

I poured the batter into the pan once it was hot enough. While it cooked, I grabbed a few plates. Flipping the pancake, I cringed at how it was burned. So I’ll scrap this one and flip it sooner, noted.

“It smells really good,” Hunter muttered. 

“Just wait till you taste it,” I smirked. “This is easy to make, even for someone who never cooks, like me.”

The next few pancakes were the perfect golden brown, and I internally pat myself on the back for how good they looked and smelled. I divided the pancakes between both plates and set one in front of Hunter. I then went to the fridge and grabbed the syrup. Can’t forget the best part! I rushed back to the dining room table and sat next to him. 

“Okay, so try a pancake without the syrup, and then with it,” I said eagerly. Hunter nodded and hesitantly cut into his stack and took a bite. I sat on the edge of my seat, curious to what he thought of it. It’s not everyday you get to introduce someone to something. Hunter’s eyes widened as he chewed, glancing at me then back down at the food. 

Swallowing, Hunter spoke up, “This is amazing!”

“You think that’s good?” I asked with a smug grin. “Now try it with some syrup!” He did just that and he seemed even more floored. I grinned, proud of myself. Now he needed to try some homemade pancakes. I ate my pancakes as well, content with the outcome of this little expedition. 

Flapjack hopped over to me, and I raised my hand up to pet it. Just in case it didn’t want to be pet. It twittered happily as I brushed its wooden feathers. Even though it was wooden, it was still soft. 

“Who's a cute little guy,” I cooed, petting the birds back. I heard Hunter choke, and I looked up in concern. He sputtered as he swallowed the rest of the water he was drinking, his face bright red. “Are you okay?”

“Mhm,” He nodded, not meeting my gaze, but showing off a shaky smile. Flapjack hopped back over to Hunter, then flew up into his hair. “Hey!” The bird just chirped and made a little nest in his hair. Adorable. 

I rested my arm on the table, put my head in my hand and stared at Hunter, “So, want to learn how to play Mario Kart?”