Hanfu movement is about MODERN ethnic clothing. What is the authentic “han” clothing? Who is going to decide for everyone? There are millions of Chinese around the world. Who could say something and everyone would follow? You? Me? The China government? Come on the moment China government said something it will be on the news that a totalitarian regime is mandating how people should dress.
Korean, Japan, Vietnam and England did not have such a tragic discontinuation of wearing their style when they all have their “modernization” period of pain. Also, have you considered the amount of Chinese involved in the situation? Also the geographical differences, the culture background and the resulted fashion preference of those people? Having only one (1) style of clothing actually is not the norm. Like the Dai people could have very different clothing depending on their villages. And the related Thai women in Thailand have at least... 7 different blouses? And those are modern invention too. Less than 100 years.
I live in a country where wearing traditional clothing, at least for women (pretty sure this is a relic from the colonialism period - men wore the European clothes while the women wore the ethnic clothes to show “fusion”, “respect” etc.), is very normal, even for work. For example, Indians. What is the traditional clothing of an Indian woman? A sari, you may say. But in my experience, most people don’t wear sari to work. I asked my teacher why. She said she did not like showing the waist. I only had one colleague who regularly wears Sari to work. But she is also a priest. Also I am quite sure that she only wears Sari when she is going to the temple on that day. What does the other wear usually? Usually they wear a tunic plus a trousers. There are many many many different types of tunic and I did not follow them. Each type of tunic are most likely came from different region (so the bottom to match is actually slightly different, but again, I did not follow). I remember back in high school, once they showed about 20 different types of Indian clothing, each from different regions, or different kingdoms historically. And that was put together by one (1) schoolmate. I am sure there is much more variants in Indian traditional clothing.
In addition, clothing from each dynasty reflected their characteristics. And modern Chinese needs something that reflect them. So why stick to a dynasty when you have so many to chose from? Looking back at different periods of time was also what people did back in the days (Ming dynasty), but they did not have the technology nor the archeological discoveries that we can access nowadays. Also people from different regions have different needs. Certain styles would be more prominent in certain regions. And those not suitable for people will fall into disuse. Like, quju was rather popular a decade ago, but only a handful of people are into it now, because the construction of the clothing does not match modern needs.
So forming a modern Han clothing is still an ongoing process. It has only been, like, 20 years? It takes time to come to a conscious. Many people just started to wear hanfu recently. It takes time to build up their taste and wardrobe. Historically, it took a few decades for Ming dynasty to settle into their own style. Chill. People will come to a conclusion. Give them time. Give yourself time.
If one don’t want to sit it up one could always wear the cheongsam. Even then there are so many different cuts to choose from. XP There is also non-cheongsam Chinese traditional clothing but people probably don’t recognize them and only really old grannies wear them nowadays. And most of them switched to buttons, at least in my region.
On the other hand, please consider cultivating your own social experience. And only hang out with friends or circles that decided on the style you also liked. I know there are people who are firmly focus on late late Ming style. There are also a lot of events and gatherings that are style-limited. YOU CAN MAKE YOUR OWN CALL. Don’t let the others decide for you. If you wear hanfu, you are one of the movement. Development your own circle if you like certain style. Consider becoming an influencer if you want people to follow your way. (Also, some people are only in for the money and know no shit about hanfu. So beware.)
Lastly, the online filter bubble is actually very strong if one picks the right people to follow. Like, a couple months ago I asked my friend what did she think about the fashion trend this year because I couldn’t see one. She said, definitely heziqun, especially for the newbies. For me, I have seen nearly zero news and updates on heziqun since Qinghuige time because I only followed a selection of people and bots on weibo. Since anyone wearing hanfu as daily wear for a few years knew heziqun is a recent invention (less than 3 years) as the whole structure is ridiculous and tedious to wear, so heziqun isn’t something those people would consider. Therefore I don’t see them on my dash. There were a couple of beidaiqun. Meh. Tang style is a wild place. Don’t go into Tang style if you want 100% historical accurate style. Or don’t even go into general hanfu fashion but only follow that handful of research and reconstruction blogs.
TLDR: There is no one that has the authenticity in Hanfu Movement to decide what specific style people should stick to. Make your own decision and hang out with people of like mind if you don’t want to see a variation of styles appearing in one place.
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Coucou ! :D Pour les questions des mariages, si ça ne te gêne pas, la question 9 ou 18 ou 21 au choix (ne te force pas à faire les 3, surtout pour la 9 qui doit prendre pas mal de temps ^^') pour n'importe quel couple que tu aimes bien ! :D Merci beaucoup d'avance !
Salut et merci beaucoup :) Du coup j'ai fait les 3 parce que pourquoi pas (et avec des digressions un peu partout) ! J'ai laissé les dieux décider de chacun des couples !
9) Show us a mood/stimboard of their wedding's general aesthetic...
Pour Gladys et Dimitri (le mariage royal, hohoho !) TADAM !
(Bon j'ai tordu un peu la consigne donc c'est autant un moodboard sur leur relation que sur l'esthétique de leur mariage. On ne le dit jamais assez, l'image du milieu a été dessinée par la talentueuse Yzderia.)
18) Did anyone oppose the marriage? Did they speak then, or did they just forever hold their peace?
...Pour Felix et Vigdis.
Comme a dit une personne très sage : "haters gonna hate". Il y a forcément des gens qui ont trouvé de quoi critiquer ce mariage, que ce soit à cause des origines de Vigdis ou pour n'importe qu'elle autre raison triviale.
Mais comme ça reste le mariage du duc et que Vigdis est une héroïne de guerre qui a des connexions importantes, personne n'aurait osé l'ouvrir pendant la cérémonie.
De toute manière, Philippe a bien vérifié la liste des invités avant histoire d'enlever ceux qui pourraient poser problèmes vu qu'il veut que son neveux passe le meilleur moment possible.
Par contre c'est évident que Sylvain est allé voir Felix avant la cérémonie pour l'asticoter et lui ressortir un truc edgy sur la romance et le mariage que Felix a dû dire à l'Académie. (Loog approuve tout à fait ceci mais attention au karma, Sylvain. Felix ne va pas te manquer).
(Après reste la question triviale de savoir si Vigdis a finalement mis une robe pour son mariage. Mais vu qu'elle dit à Gladys dans un des chapitres qu'elle "mettra une robe au moment où Gladys s'y attendra le moins", sans doute pas).
Au final, ça reste donc une cérémonie qui se déroule très bien !
21) Do they have a honeymoon? Where to? How soon after?
...Pour Loog et Maude !
Vu que le mariage se passe juste un peu avant le début de la guerre, pas vraiment, non. Et d'ailleurs, Loog culpabilise de n'avoir que ça à lui offrir, même s'il est profondément heureux et ému qu'elle reste avec lui malgré ce qui se profile. C'est pour ça qu'il se promet de se rattraper dès qu'il le pourra et de traiter sa dame comme elle le mérite.
La cérémonie est aussi festive que possible. Ils veillent bien à ce qu'il n'y ait aucune décoration blanche, vu que c'est la couleur du deuil en Dagda, pour ne pas rappeler de mauvais souvenirs à Maude. Du coup ils sont soit tous les deux habillés en bleu, soit elle en vert et lui en bleu. Maude a une fleur dessinée sur le front, ce qui est un maquillage traditionnel de chez elle. C'est quelque chose qu'elle fait toujours tant que c'est possible.
Un peu comme ici :
D'ailleurs, si tu veux voir des tenues de la période dont je m'inspire pour les vêtements dagdaniens, je te conseille vraiment ce tumblr. Il y a de très beau vêtements et de très jolies reconstitutions :
Mais cela dit, cela ne les gêne pas non plus parce que Loog et Maude sont heureux juste en étant ensemble. Un chroniqueur de l'église qui les a rencontrés lors des fameuses négociations note qu'ils s'apportaient beaucoup de joie l'un à l'autre.
Du coup la "lune de miel" c'est plutôt après, lorsqu'ils peuvent prendre plus de temps pour eux. Lorsque leurs responsabilités les amènent à se déplacer, ils en profitent pour visiter Faerghus. Ils finissent par avoir de nouveau le temps d'apprécier la paix.
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Future Plot: Voyage of the Shinkirō - Chapter 6
((Sandra, Pyrrhus, and Dicorus belong to me
Camille belongs to @inklingleesquidly
Nebula belongs to @myzzy and @agenttwo
Vix belongs to @teamuntyblue / @ryan-sign-guy
Beaker Jr. belongs to @askvincent / @asktheseastars and @scrushling
Marine and Wish (The Neo Clone Sister belong to @inklingleesquidly @myzzy @agenttwo and @teamuntyblue / @ryan-sign-guy ))
Tortuga Bay, Santa Cruz Island - Galapagos Islands, Ecuador - 8:05 PM
The fleet takes the Shinkiro back into open waters to meet with the massive ship that commands the fleet. The fleet's crew members weren't as hostile as expected by Sandra; in fact, when they were close to the massive ship, the captain look down on the Shinkiro.
The fleet leader is an adolescent inkling boy with tan skin with fair black ink hair. He had two distinctive eyes: one was the darkest brown any person would see, the other is a strange blue with the iris being mosaic-like. In addition to his hair color, it glowed with a blue hue.
Nebula can recognize the squid. "Dicorus!?!"
"Lady Sevenstar! Lady Squidly!" Dicorus doesn't recognize Sandra, Vix, and Beaker Jr. "New friends of yours?" He turns into a squid and super jumps to Sandra's ship. After changing back, he is more visible, wearing Byzantine military uniform for an explorer's attire with a jacket to mark that he's the leader.
Minutes later, the Shinkiro's sails that were lost at sea were returned as Dicorus's fleet has found them while sailing to the Galapagos. Dicorus hopped onboard the Shinkiro so that he can meet with Sandra and her Crew face-to-face. Nebula explained to Dicorus why she and Camille are out at sea with some friends. Dicorus understood the situation and approached Sandra.
"I should say, you have quite the determination to get to what was called the New World," Dicorus complimented, "My fleet is heading there too to stop in Hawaii before sailing to Panama. We're going there to extend the Silk Road by using ancient sea routes. It's kind of weird we're sailing away from our final destination and later doing the opposite when we reach Hawaii.."
"I don't blame you." Sandra does a curtsy. "And it's a great offer you're giving."
"Then we agree?" Dicorus smiled.
Sandra nods.
"Alright then." Before Dicorus goes, he stops to look at Camille and Nebula. "Also I visited Japan about 5 days ago and it seems I meet some relatives of your that decided to join in. They mentioned you two when they came on board."
"Huh?" Camille raised an eyebrow.
"Who are they?" Nebula asked.
"You'll see for yourself." Dicorus looks up and signals his crew members to bring them to the Shinkiro.
Soon a crane from Dicorus's ship lowers a platform down like an elevator for two inkatarians in sailor outfits. They have a striking similarity to Camille and Nebula and that the one that looks like Nebula is pale. They were wearing outfits that are a mix between hanfus from China and 18th century Navy uniforms from Great Britain.
It's the Neo Clone Sisters, the clones created from the DNAs of the Neo Squid Sisters and octarian DNA with a few mutations in the process of cloning. As a result, Camille's clone, Marina, has developed unique powers but as a cost, she has medical conditions that need to be monitored at all times. As for Nebula's Clone, Wish, she also developed unique powers of her own along with medical conditions.
And from just one glance, Camille runs up to embrace her duplicate. Marina was glad to see her duplicate as well. Nebula approached Wish and they both smile, both giving a nod. Though, Wish can barely see her duplicate.
"Are you guys related?" Dicorus raised an eyebrow.
"It's a long story," Camille replied.
Beaker approached Marina and Wish and said hello to them before giving them a hug. Sandra did the same; she wanted to know more about these duplicates as Agent M and Agent C were the only clones she knew when she was adopted. Vix has already met them before, and this time he's introducing to them his tortoise companion, Reve.
"So you and Wish really hope on board a boat just to follow us?" Camille asked her duplicate.
"Sort of, Wish and I only found out you were away from those Agents." Marina was probably mentioning Celeste and Telemachus.
"Hmmm..." Sandra looked at Dicorus. "Is it okay if these clone sisters join my crew?"
"I don't see why not." Dicorus shrugs. "After all, we stopped by some islands for Marina to excavate some relics, and Wish has been a help in organizing and managing the fleet's working conditions."
"Well, great! Then we better get sailing then!" Sandra is eager to go even if it's night.
"Now, now, Sandra, we need to sleep," Dicorus pointed out, "And it's quite too early; we still have time."
Sandra gave a weak laugh, embarrassed of what she said. Dicorus did mention Marina has excavated relics on some islands so Sandra can assume the Neo Clone Sisters have an interest in archaeology.
"So, Marina, Wish, want me to show you around? Sandra asked.
"We would love to," Marina politely responds.
When Sandra began a small tour around the Shinkiro, she began talking to them about archaeology. Soon Sandra shared a brief history of her family's archaeology career while Marina and Wish shared their stories of their archaeological explorations.
Meanwhile, Beaker Jr. and Vix return to sleep in their quarters. There was one more person Dicorus wanted Camille and Nebula to meet.
A young sailor super jumps his way down and lands on the mast. He climbs down from there and faces Camille and Nebula.
It was the same inkling boy with fair skin, opal-colored ink hair with a red spot on his ponytail, and a yellow eye. He still had a blue eye patch and brass bracelets. This time he wore a white shirt and shawl with a brown vest and boots. His shorts was the usual Inkling style.
"Meet Pyrrhus Issa Kerkysera, when he went on board, he started befriending Marina and Wish," Dicorus explained, "and then he realized he meet you in Guam, so he wanted to join the crew to see what adventure you friend is up to."
Pyrrhus approached Camille and bowed slightly before taking her hand like a gentleman.
"My apologies for not recognizing an idol like you." Pyrrhus looked to Nebula. "And you must her sister."
"Cousin actually," Nebula corrected.
"Yeah... The sister thing is just the name." Camille quickly reacts her hand away from Pyrrhus. There was something about this inkling that made her feel odd.
"I'll be getting my things and bringing them on board this ship." Pyrrhus turns into a squid and super jumps to Dicorus's flagship.
Camille just watched him leave the ship. She stepped forward and felt lost in thought for a moment. Dicorus notices and waves his hand in her face. Camille reacted and looked at him.
"Oh, sorry. Didn't mean to be rude." Dicorus then yawns. "I shall be heading to my quarters as well." He turns into a squid and returns to his ship.
Nebula stands next to Camille and points out the obvious. "Just putting out there, he does look like your old boyfriend. You know that one that was the son of Er-"
"Nebby, please!" Camille turns around and heads to her quarters. She sounded annoyed. "That's behind me! It was never meant to be anyway! I'm going to bed!"
The Shinkiro - Pacific Ocean - 10:00 AM
In the morning, the Shinkiro leave the Galapagos, sailing with Dicorus's fleet. Dicorus decided to temporarily make Sandra's ship the second flagship of his fleet.
On the Shinkiro, Dicorus was standing on the upper decks to monitor the crew members. Sandra was controlling the steering wheel, controlling her ship while leading Dicorus's fleet. Camille and Nebula were managing the sails with Beaker Jr and Pyrrhus helping out. Vix and his giant Galapagos tortoise, Reve, were washing the decks. Marina and Wish were also on the upper desk, examining maps and charts; Wish had to wear sunglasses and carry an umbrella due to her medical conditions.
In the middle of the trip from the Galapagos to the Hawaiian Islands, it was kind of quiet at the moment despite there being the sound of waves and the winds.
Dicorus decided to do something about.
"This is gonna be a long trip," Dicorus suggested, "How about we sing something?"
"Like what? A sailor's sea shanty?" Sandra understands what he's suggesting.
"Yeah, like a sea shanty." Dicorus looks to his fleet. "My fleet does it all the time while they do physical labor just to keep the ship going.
"I'm up for it." Sandra looks up." Hey, guys! We're going to sing!"
"What?!" Camille looks down.
"Cool!" Beaker replied.
Dicorus quickly gets to the crow's nest and signal his flagship and the fleet for a song.
((Musical Number: https://youtu.be/ubZrAmRxy_M ))
A conch shell is blown and Dicorus started to sing in a language he picked up on the islands he visited.
While the Shinkiro and Dicorus's fleet are singing, Dicrous took this time to teach Sandra some methods of navigation. They were an ancient form of navigation that used the water, the stars, and the winds.
Whenever they ships stop at an island, Sandra took this chance to go on Marina's and Wish's Archaeologists adventures. They would find a few ancient sites and recover artifacts dating back from a time before the Mollusc Era from times of Ancient wars to time of an Ancient Tribe Camille and Nebula take those time to record videos for their producer back in Inkopolis; Beaker Jr, Vix, and Reve helped as the camera crew. Pyrrhus and Dicorus would be watching over the Shinkiro while Dicorus's fleet stopped for food, water, and supplies.
When Hawaii was just on the horizon, Sandra knows she's halfway there in reaching America. Hawaii may be part of the United States, but it's not enough for her. After all, she still needed to find her family.
((End of Musical Number))
Honolulu (Relocated), Loihi, Second Kingdom of Hawaii - 12:00 Noon
The islands have changed due to tectonic plates and volcanic activity. Some well-known cities were relocated while historical monuments remained where they were. Nature had does its part in relocating natural sites.
Everyone on the Shinkiro, including Wish, Marina, Dicorus, and Pyrrhus, were at the hull, looking at the islands.
"I didn't expect a musical number to bring us to Hawaii that quick." Beaker Jr scratches his head.
"Me neither." Camille sounded as if she was going to lose her voice.
"Welcome to Hawaii." Sandra was still on the upper decks, holding onto the steering wheel to sail the Shinkiro straight to the harbor. She won't be able to join her friends, so she had to raise her voice a bit. "It's the Aloha State, the Paradise of the Pacific, and the Islands of Aloha. As they say here: 'Ua Mau ke Ea o ka ʻĀina i ka Pono'. "
Camille looked at her. ".....What?"
"She meant, The life of the land is perpetuated in righteousness." Marina seems to know something about the language. "Where did you pick up Hawaiian?"
"My parents used to send me letters and packages that came from here," Sandra replied.
"I heard the volcano here beats Mount Everest," Pyrrhus stated. He was standing next to Camille.
"Only if you count the sea level," Dicorus acknowledged, "and to think tectonic rifts and faults can reshape the world."
"Nature's beautiful and it is ever changing," Wish commented.
"So, shall we split up and enjoy our visit to the island?" Sandra looked at her crew.
Dicorus raised his hand. "I'm in, obviously."
"Nebby, Beaky, and I won't mind, and it might make our producer happy." Camille rolls her eyes and a smirk.
Pyrrhus looked at Sandra and then at Marina and Wish. He steps closer to the Neo Clone Sisters. "You know, I heard from sailors that this island has a very long history, from being a small tribe to a kingdom; from a kingdom to the territory; from a territory to a member of the union. You and Sandra can find something here."
"No so fast, Pyrrhus, that is a bad idea. Anything made from the island and on the island belongs to a goddess. Dicorus is highly against that idea. "From sailors I know, I was told this is the home of Pele, and she curses whoever takes anything from that island. Humans may have been foolish to take from her home, so it's best we don't do the same."
"Hey! Is our fleet going to sail this slow? Full speed ahead!" Sandra ordered.
"I better get to my ship then!" Dicorus turns into a squid and super jumps his way to his ship.
Sandra's crew scattered, going to their stations to open the sails. Sandra offers Beaker Jr. the steering wheel so that she can raise the Shinkiro's flag again. It still has it's usual symbol: a muscle with a cloud coming out, and on that cloud is a castle housing paradise.
Sandra smiles that raised flag and looks to where Hawaii is.
She is this close to finding her Family in the New World.
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